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Good morning Andrew and Kristi. I’m late to the party. Sleeping in is glorious though. I’m very enthusiastic about this segment of the market, having just bought the Arylic 50+. My only concern is that these type of devices are close enough to AV receivers and if this is your only amp you may find yourself looking for AV features once you hook up a TV. Now I’m a video enthusiast so that’s my bias. If your focus is just music then this streamer is a winner, as is the whole category.
Andrew, I have been watching your videos and reviews and they are so very well done and your sophisticated yet easygoing speaking style is quite rare. While your future looks bright here, have you considered having an agent present you to Jeopardy (I think you would be perfect for the role and they are just having guest hosts given their recent host fiasco) or Survivor (another fiasco) or a similar wider-reaching networked format and more wider appealing subject matter? You could still keep this gig, but I believe you have demonstrated the ability to be successful to a much broader audience. Ed.
Which one is better or equal NAD C700 or Audiolab 6000a Play? Both are near the same price ..but I am leaning towards NAD C700 for its compact size but I am worried about if that reduces the quality of sound as compared to Audiolab...I got B&W 607 speakers.
Andrew : will you review the Roksan Attessa BluOS amplifier ? I’m very interested in those Bluesound or NAD streaming amplifiers but I’m scared of being disappointed by the “Class D” sound (with JMR Emma speakers).
The conversation at the end really highlights the issue of Deltas. If we read people’s comments to these types of reviews, it’s always about how A is different from B, and what about C, and surely D is different still…? We want clear differences to guide us in purchasing decisions when, in fact, those differences are many times small, if perceptible at all. “Night and day” is not quite as dramatic as we’d like to think. I appreciate your honesty about how products can be different in many ways, yet sound similar. To use Kristi’s car analogy. An Accord and a Camry are not that different, yet a customer chooses one over the other because of how the car makes them feel. A small detail might push you in one direction, but in the end they both will transport you from A to B just fine. This is why your discussions of user interface, design, and “feel”, are so critical in this price range of products. Quadrupole the budget and the discussion would be different. Deltas are real, but they’re small, and you do a good job emphasizing that. …sorry about the novel.
So so true. Night and day differences are rare. And I 💯 agree with you that so much about the buying decision is about feelings. It’s the a big influence on how we might justify spending 100s of dollars more on essentially the same product under a different name. Fantastic observation, Thomas.
I bought the C700 and I'm thrilled with it. No hiccups so far with BluOS either. The C700 exists in a real sweet spot of features, like dedicated sub out, HDMI, high-pass/low-pass filters, and (for me) a freaking physical volume knob. If the Audiolab Omnia had a volume knob, I'd probably own it. The album art is great too. No complaints about the C700 sound either, it's great. Easily outperforms my previous Marantz NR1200.
I just purchased the C700 and paired them with some small bookshelf speakers. The Klipsch RP400M's. I was trying to build a small compact, great sounding system that utilizes minimal space as I moving to SE Asia. I am very happy how it sounds. The C700 to me is a nice aesthictacally looking product. Bottom line a happy NAD owner.
I've now had the NAD C700 for about six months. This amp is great and the world of Blue Sound has easily doubled my music listening time. Thanks for your review which assisted in my decision.
I really like you guys as a team. 💜 The discussion at the end was the most interesting (for me) part of the video. I really think the blue sound node is the star of the show here. You can marry it to whichever amp you like and have the power and ease of use of BlueOs. I also have the Powernode and while it's great one stop shop, I wish it had the ability to output to other amps like my Node does. Subbed!
Regarding market cross over - think of the POWERNODE as the Toyota Camry and the C700 as the Lexus ES and the M33 as the Lexus LC. You want price/performance ratio, get a POWERNODE. You want a nicer look, a screen for the menu options and an on device menu - well get the c700. You want outright performance - get the M33. Toyota -> $35K, Lexus ES->$60K, Lexus LC -> $100K. POWERNODE -> $1049, C700 -> $1500, M33 -> $4500. Different types of consumers -- you just have to figure out what kind you are :) Me? I just ordered a POWERNODE. And I drive a Camry too :)
My attention was grabbed by Kristi and you when you stated bland general appeal to one audience, which is bean counter marketing and works. Of the 100k+ home theaters out there less than 3% are full Dolby ATMOS (Stats from Sound United) and Andrew, you know about the limited appeal of pre-amps with mono-blocks from the price range. Very few are wiling to pay what a car costs to have a good A/V or stereo system. NAD is looking to a future that is the now.
Glad and not surprised to see the Powernode (2021) sounds like the new C700. Both are 80 wpc Hypex-based amps. I fell in love with the Powernode this summer, and it works fine with my Maggie 1.7is. Really impressive soundstage and clarity, but perhaps a bit leaner than my AB integrated amps. Instantly more engaging compared to the AB amps. Would like to see a review of the NAD C298 Purifi module-based power amp, or another Purifi amp, to hear how it compares with the Powernode/C700 sound. More power for the Maggies. Seems obvious that Lenbrook is repurposing the engineering for multiple brands, and if that keeps the prices more reasonable, fine with me. Contrary to the video discussion, I still see a reasonable market differentiation between NAD and Bluesound, with one targeting the traditional budget enthusiast and the other targeting the plug-and-play multiroom market (the Sonos customer). Sure, as the tech progresses, there's a convergence of the experience. It may reach a point that they can't justify the segmentation, but I don't think it's there yet. Cheers for the great reviews and video production values. Always enjoy it.
Agree with a review on the new c298! I got one myself😁. Really good sound from it! Soundstage is wonderful big and everything sounds very accurate to the source! Shit in shit out! And the best thing is that if you have a really hiend preamp it will show that to you. I have compared it to a rotel rb1582mk2 amp and it sounded def more neutral and clean than the rotel. I def think its a real hiend amplifier.
I bought a Node and after a week I returned it. I mostly used it as ROON endpoint and for the money, I ordered an Allo Boss2 to compare. I liked the Boss2 so much I ordered a second one. I ordered them with MoOde, installed ROON bridge and simply love using these, one for my den and the second in our studio/office. Both cost less than one Node!
I love Roon, but the point of the Bluesound NODE (and BluOS as a whole) is that you don't need Roon and the 500 Euro subscription and the 500 Euro server. It already has a fully functioning streaming suite built-in. Don't get me wrong. In many ways, I think Roon is superior as streaming software. I just think that for most people the BluOS platform is way easier to start using.
@@nielschristiaans1263 I was hoping I could use the Node to replace ROON but BlueOS doesn’t do the things ROON can. For example, I cannot use BlueOS on my phone to play music from my Synology FLAC library to my phone, or to my receivers, only to the system the Node is connected to. Node/BlueOS didn’t work for me.
I have the NAD C-388 and never looked back. After over 50 years of chasing the holly grail had many Audio set up/systems, I went for convenience, simplicity, fewer cables it's upgradable has plenty of power, Roon ready it suites all my needs.
And the NAD c 399 is supposed to be available next month. No flashy screen display, but lots of trickle down technology from M33 and other Master series components. Definitely on my radar.
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Just a heads up to anyone considering the C700 to play music from a usb thumb drive, the amp does not allow front panel access to libraries connected via usb. The usb input is only accessible via the remote app. I chose the C700 over the Powernode because I was hoping to be able to use the key features directly on the amp's front panel with the volume dial, buttons, and large color screen without needing a secondary screen/device. I realize this may not be an issue for a lot of people who only control it via their phone, but I wanted to bring it up for the old heads looking at this unit. Also, screen brightness settings are not retained when forcing the amp into standby/powering down. If you leave the amp network connected and allow it to go into sleep mode, the brightness should be remembered, but not if you shut it down. I think the manual calls this vacation mode. I keep the brightness on my phone turned down and had hoped to do the same on the amp. I found the auto brightness setting to be jumpy and distracting in my space. Just so you know. Otherwise, the amp has performed well in my short time with it. It sounds good and I really appreciate the small size and diversity of inputs. I hope the bugs I found can be corrected with firmware updates.
I'm currently investigating options for this exact same set-up: a HIFI all-in-one system to listen to music and connect my TV. To me, the real difference between the NAD and the Powernode is the following: I would enjoy exposing the NAD in full sight, while I would definitely hide the Powernode inside a cupboard. The NAD looks like an Audi, the Powernode does not even look like a VW. ;-)
I would like a review on the new c399 when its out. Seems like a real bargain! Coupled with bluos streaming AND dirac live its gonna be a giant killer if you want an all in one solution. 180w power to deal with😉. I have the new c298 which is fantastis. Will try it with the c399 as preamp.
“What’s the point of anything”. LOL! I came across the C700 the other day at the dealer. It wasn’t turned on but I took a look at, gave the knob a spin and thought it seemed cheaply built for the price. I’d pick the Powenode over it, or the M10. I suppose that decision is just based off the design alone. I own an M10 and like it a lot! Great performance, features (ie. DIRAC). Also looks and feels nice. Getting some Metas next week and can’t wait to see how they work together. Oh… parting thought! I think you can add to DIRAC to the C700 via a software update or module. Might be worth considering if you’re happy with the C700 but looking to upgrade down the road. So maybe it is a viable option…
i just bought a powernode 2i (last gen) for very cheap and love it. Obsolescence is a concern when buying software focused products. Every time a new a new chipset is used, it raises a potential flag for future support.
I watch most of your vids Andrew but seeing the Lastlings album art on the NAD got me to click instantly! Fantastic Aussie duo that I've had the pleasure of seeing a few times!
Love your reviews you guys. Very honest and down to Earth. I always watch other reviews for the same pieces of equipment but your structure just hits the nail on the head in so many ways. Also, selfishly, the only tower speakers for the money that I’ve never heard and am so interested in are the Aperion Audio Verus III Concert V8T (or V6T) Tower Speakers. Everyone that has them is mind blown but not many reviews on TH-cam at all! Plus that cherry finish…
I had ordered the M10 (v2) before I knew there was this affordable alternative coming out. The M10 is great, I love the sound and Dirac is especially good. the touch screen is nice - but so is a real volume knob. And for half the price… this one seems to be a great deal if you don’t need Dirac.
Oh, I forgot one important thing: The M10 now offers 4.2 via two blusound surround back channels - which was one main argument for me to wait for the V2. But I haven‘t installed this system - yet. The surround backs are missing and so is the KEF sub. :-)
In the whole Bluesound vs NAD line of thought, Bluesound is a great foray into streaming for old guys/gals that want to add to their already nice systems. I for instance have a wonderful system containing a GAS Theobe & Son of Ampzilla running into a set of Martin Logan eStats. I added a vault to the setup and it's a great addition to my main listening room. That said, add a power node to an old set of Advent's and you can put together a grarage/man-cave setup for very low $$. Advents, even though 50 years old or so, still have a great bass and a non-tiring 2-way design. Not to mention that you can find good pairs at rummage sales for $25-$50 a pair. That said, I think Bluesound products have a place in the product line. Maybe they even become a 3rd generation 3020...
I use a Node 2i as a dedicated tidal streamer into a NAD c368 into a PS Audio s300 power amplifier. I have my TV audio out connected to the C368. The NAD c368 is future proof as it uses the module approach if you wish. So in theory better versions of the Bluesound streamer can be swapped in in the future. As to NAD canibalising from itself, I thbhink the units are sufficiently different. Class a/b v class d amplification. Life style aimed v more hifi aimed. Anyway, a fantastic video as always. You really hit in something having both of you discussing the products. That is my favorite part!
I disagree with "future proof" when it comes to NAD. I had a NAD receiver with module update capability. Upgraded the modules myself, thereby saving some money. Now I believe the module upgrades have to been down by an authorized person, which adds cost. Also, the modules are bloody expensive. Eventually the product will not be upgradeable with future modules. I know this from past experience. It is my believe that one is better off selling the old unit and buying a new unit than upgrading it with the new modules. The new modules will not save you much money and a new unit might have better technology and improvements to the amps, pre-amps, D/A converters and a fully warranty versus an older unit with upgraded modules that is out of warranty expect possibly for the modules themselves.
@@johnpereira6934 totally agree with you, the new modules are ridiculously overpriced. If my NAD 758v3 requires an updated module I’ll sell the receiver for cheap and start over. It’s really a shame because they make some great products.
Can’t agree here guys. I think it’s great having a cheaper version of a high end product. If you do so desire or can afford then get the bit better version. If not get the entry level job. 🔈👍🏻
@Andrew Robinson QOTD; The Bluesound/NAD seems to have competing products, The C700 uses age old Class-D Hypex UcD modules. Nicely integrated but technology is too old for a $1000+ amp , M10/M33 amps use much newer Hypex-ncore and Purifi modules. It seems NAD is shifting towards the all digital class-D product range.
Exactly what I was hoping to hear! The album art, meters and volume knob are sexy and this is a device that asks to be displayed. As I'm still invested in Apple Music and Airplay dependent, losing the album art, the extra cost over the POWERNODE makes less sense. BUT!!!...Should Apple Music make its way to BluOS...then I may kick myself. As to the question at hand, maybe Bluesound becomes the Honda to NAD's Acura...Yes, I didn't mention Toyota/Lexus.
Of course they are going for the integrated devices. The problem with those devices is that once one part of it gets outdated (usually the digital/streaming part), then a lot of people will want to upgrade to a system with the newest functionality. But that means throwing out a perfectly good amp and other parts. And generally people are creatures of habit, sot hey don't want to learn a new system every time they upgrade. This means that it's likely they'll buy into the same brand again. And to replace their "all in one box system" they'll have to buy a new "all in one box" system, which is generally a more expensive item.
I really enjoy your reviews. Prior to coming across your channel, I literally had a pair of Sonos 5's but have since purchased the KEF LS50 Meta's and the Cambridge CXA81. As a novice to this new hobby of mine, your channel has led to a huge burst of curiosity and exploration. Thank you. I'm not sure if you're aware of the new Roksan Attessa streaming amplifier but if it is on your radar, we'd love to see your review.
I thoroughly enjoyed the discussion regarding brands, trickle down, features, and car comparisons (and obviously am not alone). The review was good as well 🤓 Thanks for continuing to create engaging and entertaining videos, Kristi and Andrew!
The large "umbrella" corps are not concerned with cannibalising sales between their sub-brands - it is deliberate strategy to take up consumer mindspace. All they want is for you to buy from one of their brands (doesn't matter which) rather than a product from a competitor "umbrella" corp. By throwing loads of brands at you, you think you're getting "choice" but your selection is actually going to be between a very limited number of actual entities.
That's exactly correct, cannibalising sales is not a problem when your goal is to saturate the market with choices. The C700 is a good example of leveraging existing parts and tech to bring another 'slightly different' version to market inexpensively. Doesn't mean the C700 (or saturation strategy) is bad, just means Lenbrook is marketing for success and to suit every customer - what they should be doing.
Our family has 4 vehicles. Two are VWs and two are Audis. All are built on the same MQB platform and use the same basic 2 liter turbo 4 and they have a lot of driving characteristics in common. The Audis, an A3 Quattro and a TTS, feel like they are built with somewhat higher quality materials. They perform better and have nicer interiors. It’s hard to believe that the Tiguan and the TTS are built on the same platform but it also makes me realize how much the details matter. I am happy they both exist and I think I feel the same way about the Bluesound Power Node and the NAD. It’s good to have choices even if they only differ slightly. I am happy with my current setup of Klipsch The Fives and a sub using Apple TV for music and the only way I will change is for something that is just as easy. Both of these qualify. So I am happy they exist. Maybe they should be different tiers of the same model line?
When you drive the Audis do you get the urge to drive 6 inches from the rear bumper of the car in front despite the speed and park in 2 spaces as they normally do here in the UK? 🤣
I own an Evo and regardless of streamer you are using I think to obtain true audiophile quality sound you need to use it as a preamp into a bonafide power amp to get the headroom and soundstage we desire. The class D amplifier in EVO has pros and cons, mine runs daily for 5-8 hours per day so the fact it runs cool is awesome. Granted I love the “British sound” so Im biased. Incidentally I paired my Evo with an old Parasound 500 I picked up cheap and the before and after was mind expanding. 😊
Everything is a computer now. My $6000US Naim Uniti Star’s display has gone dark immediately after a firmware update. It has been weeks, with nothing from Naim other than the typical dances around a totem pole and speaking in tongues. Save your money and buy something else. You could replace 10 of them for what I paid for one Uniti Star. I’m screwed because I also have two Mu-so units, so I’m kind of uninterested in total replacement of a $9000 multi-room system.
I was contemplating getting one of these, and was waiting for your review after you noted in a prior one that it was in house. Verdict: Sold. I'll be getting one. Thanks for the great reviews!
I think I’ve watched about 30 or 40 of your video reviews this past week and love them all. I’ve been looking to upgrade my home office room audio with amps and speakers and I’ve gone with the C700 in large part because of this review which just helped me discount a lot of other amps before even going in store to check them out in person, and probably pairing them with some focal Chora 806’s. Thanks for putting everything in a way a simpleton like me can understand!
Thank you Andrew and Christi didn't expect the Video this soon XD. Your Video really brings the hype for my coming dealer appointment. And Andrew what is missing in NADs Lineup is a Node with a Screen with XLR outputs so you can pair it with a Poweramp like two Schiit Aegirs oder a Hegel H20. A Screen is a screen and now there is a Bluesound Powernode with a Screen. I know Iam willing to pay the extra and i bet (hope) there are more^^
Agree with y’all here. I love my NAD C368, one feature that’s worth mentioning is MDC flexibility. It’s nice to know I could say, get an 8k HDMI module a few years from now so it’s not obsolete.
Great review - I thought about a power node for a few months until I saw the C700 released. Compared to the M10 price this was a no-brainer for me. Paired a new C700 with some Paradigm speakers - I am in love.
In my opinion we have two different ways NAD/Bluesound can go in terms of strategy : 1) NAD focuses on integrated Amps (what they do historically) and Bluesound specializes on being just sources/DAC (BlueOS experience). Obviously both using BlueOS but one focusing on the amplification part. 2) they separate the brands in one more affordable brand which would be Bluesound and take advantage of NAD "brand's reputation" (as Kristy said) to make more high-end orientated products. I guess this is what is happening but they maybe should be clearer on their strategy. As you said, one can be really close to the other whereas prices are quite different, this isn't good for orienting the client to one or another solution
I think the two brands will coexist. Bluesound Powernode is more attractive to beginners. It has an "Apple" vibe, it's very simple and "just works". On the other hand, NAD seems more appealing to more mature listeners.
I had the nad t666? (Bought it in 2015]. After using this in my home theater system for six years, it stopped working. I brought it to the local authorized nad repair shop, and nad agreed to cover the cost of repair. The estimate for the repair was $1,500. (Burned out amplifier, etc.) The NAD service rep advised that it wasn’t worth repairing, since there was no guarantee that the receiver wouldn’t break down again. Nad offered to give me a 50% credit towards the t778. It seemed like a good deal at the time. I then started reading reviews on the Crutchfield site. Roughly half the receivers were returned to Crutchfield due to defects. Who needs the aggravation? Bought a Marantz sr8015 instead. (One man’s experience.)
Loved your reflections about how the NAD amplifiers become more and more similar, at least from a user perspective, but was very surprised to hear that Kristi preferred this amp over the M33 with Purifi modules and all. PS. I'm a very happy owner of the M32
I can totally understand how one would like one amp topology over another. The Purifi modules are impressive as are the Hypex ones, but they definitely have mildly different flavors. While I appreciated the M33 for its exacting performance, in the end it left me a bit "cold" as in not engaged. Is the M33 a good product? Absolutely, without a doubt. But would I buy it, no. I actually think the less perfect sound of the C700 is more to my taste, but that's just me. Appreciate you watching!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews M33 being so expensive and NAD not communicating clearly whether it's subwoofer troubles can be mitigated without needing to change components makes M33 a rather poor purchase. It's been known for months and nobody knows even if it will be taken care of or not.
I love your channel with lots of useful reviews. Especially a lot of streaming amplifiers. One I hope you one day manage to test is Lyngdorf TDAI-1120. I had one for home demo for a week and RoomPerfect is an amazing piece of tech. The separation of instruments and vocals is simply scary and provide a total new soundstage while keeping the sound signature of the speakers. Furthermore. Eventhough it is a digital amplifier it sounds more like an AB amplifier.
I would say that the Bluesound name is more recognised than NAD here in the UK. It is definitely a name with more impact here in the UK and the brilliant node 2i has helped push that. If I was part of their marketing team then it would be a no brainer to eventually phase out the NAD name completely, as Bluesound is well known for the streaming capabilities and that is the future of hifi. Hopefully the TV integration will quickly follow so that the TV'S screen can be used for the streamers screen instead of those piddly wee screens used on streamers, which are difficult for us with eyes painted on to see.
They didn’t really say that. When pushed Andrew said he didn’t actually know, but initially suggested that it could be due to being more readily available. Kristi clearly thought NAD was still the more recognisable brand and she’d actually researched it. In the end they both thought 20:07 it was probably more likely that Bluesound would be absorbed into NAD. I’m also from the UK and Bluesound is still a niche product. You can’t buy it in somewhere like John Lewis or Curry’s like you can Sonos. It’s more of a lifestyle brand compared to NAD which is has Hi-Fi history having been around for nearly 50 years.
Well, it turns out that BlueOS is getting more traction since other brands will use it as well. Cyrus (new streamer) and Roksan (Attessa) use BlueOS as the streaming platform, other brand may follow. Combine such a streamer with active speakers and you're done.
I'm holding out for the M10 V2. Hopefully one of those will come your way and be reviewed. Now that it's a V2 I'm very interested in a direct comparison with the Uniti Atom. It'll be one or the other for me given a reasonable amount of time to pass and peoples experiences to be expressed. I know it shouldn't be a factor, but, those VU meters really do it for me...
I felt like I was listening to a linux distro description as you went down the formats the C700 can handle (I'm in IT). This isn't a criticism of your review, it just makes me ask "okay, is this audio now?" Everyone is using one of 3 or 4 "blessed" DACs, (probably based on availability), the underlying signal path is all handled through BluOS, Good Class D amplification, some reasonable speakers and ta-da, here's another boxen for you to enjoy / evaluate / experience with only the gatekeepers grinding their teeth. Good thing? Probably. Maybe take the preamp outs & put them through your Audiolab and see if there are differences in the signal processing? Or perhaps that Emperor is actually butt-nekkid and we've been sold on a name. Or a NAIM... ;-) Great work, btw, picked up a Caimbridge Audio AXR100 to start building a new system based on your recommendation.
I love that you not only turn the video over to Kristie (wife?), and I REALLY love that she has thoughts on this stuff. My wife doesn't really care. But I think she should join you on the screen. It seems weird to have you on screen when she is really the star of this segment.
While I get the appeal of the all-in-one, it takes away the ability to experiment. I had a Powernode 2i. Loved the UX, but wasn't so enamored with SQ (lacked dynamics and soundstage was very flat IMO), but there was no way to upgrade. So I did as Andrew mentioned and replaced it with a new NODE and a separate power amp. Same UX, but now have the ability to experiment with dacs and amps, and now that the NODE has HDMI in it covers all my pre-amp needs. And thanks for another great review! Loved the convo with Kristi!
Buy a Bluesound Node, a miniDSP with Dirac and reasonably priced small form factor amp - some are even class A/B if class D isn't your thing. Now you have the capability of the M10 for a lot less money, although not as elegant a solution. As for a touch screen I don't really care if there is one. I'm not going to get up to go to the unit to use it's functionality when a remote or app on a smartphone/tablet can accomplish the same thing from my listening position.
Funnily enough, a friend does just this. He has a Bluesound node. A MiniDSP and a Rega amp driving some tasty Quadral speakers. It's a beautiful sounding setup for the money.
I recently purchased the Onkyo RZ50 based on your review (still excitedly waiting on it) to replace a 7 year old Marantz. I will stick to 5.1 because we watch movies around 60% of the time but very curious how music compares between a good AV receiver and a 2.1 channel amp. Is there much of a difference? Thanks again for all you both do. Y’all make the audio journey fun, educational and practical.
Hi Andrew - picked up A C 700 after your review. I'm very pleased with it. I'm not having any problem with lag. May just be your unit. This is a wonderful step up in sound. Great value for sure.
I have mixed feelings about it not being a touch screen...the size of the screen is ideal for that feature...but not having a smudged up screen that you would have to constantly clean is also pretty good...so controlling it via smart phone is perfectly fine
I had a demo unit for a few days at home. The sound was very clean, but also a little clinical. Because of the Bluesound system there is a 50ms delay on all inputs, even the HDMI input. So there was a lipp sync issue when watching TV that was very annoying.
That’s a bit of an issue for me. I am considering getting one in part to watch TV. I also intend to hook up my vinyl turntables (through a mixer) to the analog input on it, but with high input lag this can be tricky. How do you know they’re working on it?
@@MrJonnywarren1985 You can adjust it from 50ms to 150ms, but can't go below 50ms. This is done deliberately according to Bluesound because of grouping. If the C700 has the same issue, i don't see them changing this anytime soon.
Good review, Kristi & Andrew. For me, I still think a separate streamer is still the way to go. I understand the convenience of the NAD C700, but it seems like too much of a compromise for the $$$.
Another excellent and enjoyable review to watch. If you have to pick btw the power blue node, NAD C 700 or Audio play 6000A. Which amp would you guys pick?
What I do care about is the user experience of the app. How seamlessly things work. If you get a Sony CDP-X7ESD CD player, or any CD player with the KSS-190A mechanism, it switches tracks almost instantly, and you can search forwards or backwards in a track at 2 different speeds. And it's a solid piece of high-performance kit. I want something like a C700 - or a (power)node - that has a similar high quality feel to how things work. It's probably not that easy when it comes to streaming services though. But it should be able to do this when connecting to my own music library.
Awesome review per usually! I have the T778 and have been having similar problems with Tidal and BluOS after Tidal updated and changed a few things. I’ve just been using Tidal connect instead. As for your question. I feel like Blusound is bigger if you are new to the industry whereas if you’ve been around the block NAD is the more recognizable name and I feel NAD knows this which puts them in a dilemma. At most i think it will just say BluOS by NAD.
Your comment just answered my question lol. I’m looking to build my first system and was wondering if you can use the connect versions of the apps themselves as opposed to the blue os app. I’m coming from the kef ls50 wireless version 1 and was very used to using Spotify connect with that. Not sure I’m entirely sold on this NAD product but a blue sound node might be in my future as the streamer.
@@unklecorky2181 yeah both Tidal and Spotify connect work, although you may still have to set up BluOS but can skip using the app afterwords. I love the Kef LS50s though. What speakers are you going to get?
Anthony, thanks for sharing your experience with the T778 after the updates. We don’t have it any more to have been able to test the OS. Great product though!
Nice review guys. I agree. Similarly SMSLs' DA-8S ($169) and DA-9 ($249) - save the sub out and a nicer looking facade, they are the exact same amp. Can't wrap my head around why manufacturers keep doing the "old wine in a new bottle thing", when all that's different is the bottle and the label.
Thank you for a great review once more. I was going for the Powernode at first, but the additionnal analog inputs (I would use for SACD & Vinyl) made me choose the C700. I will pair it with KLH Model 5 that I also picked mostly because of your review... So thank you for that as well ! Wishing you guys the best !
So how do you like it with your Model 5? I also have Model 5 and am trying to decide on an integrated amp. Was thinking about Rotel A14 MK II but I would like to have Apple Play.
I will say that a possible future Bluesound product (Powernode or NAD) that is a WiSA ready transmitter, coupled with WiSA speakers would be true all in one solution. As soon as such an all in one system is available for under $1,500 (speakers included) it will "break the internet", or as my generation used to say "sell like hot cakes". As for me the only NAD product that appeals to me is the traditional C298 two channel power amplifier, which is essentially the same Purifi amp module that's in the M33. Thank you Kristi and Andrew for your excellence (yeah, I'm old, but not gender bias).
Question, Did you try the preamp outputs, or is that a feature that you generally test? On your question of the day, for me, I think NAD will always be NAD and I will think BluOS will be seen similarly to IOS. I guess that means that NAD will just be known as a product that is known that is powered by BluOS, like Sound United has HEOS. On a separate topic (mostly because I'm not sure on what platform to ask you guys individual questions. Outlaw Audio is said to be really popular but I don't see many reviews on the product. Also, have guys heard of HI-FI Rose products? They seem to have Streamers/Preamps that do everything, similar to the NAD product that you reviewed here, they seem pretty awesome.
Thanks to you both for this review. I appreciate the comparisons to other, similar products on the market. It’s great to know not necessarily “which is the best”, but the relative attributes of each so we can decide which ones are most important to our own desires. Cheers!
I have to say, most of the time, built in versions of BlueOS are terrible. Before I got a Rotel integrated and Node combo, I went with NAD C388 with the BlueOS module. It would always play about 30-40 seconds, and then completely lose connection to internet regardless wether it’s connected through Wi-Fi or Ethernet. It was stupidly frustrating for a brand new amp. And after dealing with it for a week, I returned it and went with the mentioned combo and couldn’t be happier.
Great video and discussion, this market is getting very confusing for the buyer. One thing to point out when comparing the Powernode/Node to this NAD, you can't underestimate the appeal of that nice display screen with album artwork. It's a very attractive feature and the(?) major distinguishing factor.
I bought a Lexus not a Toyota because I enjoyed the whole experience more. It felt more special. Pretty much psychology, no real data to back up the choice. Can we review the Marantz 7000N please?
Review aside..Props for showing the Lastlings album on the amp display..really good but commercially ignored moody synth pop record..and the group puts on a decent live performance too!
Great review Andrew and Kristi. I particularly enjoyed and appreciated the discussion at the end of the review, that picked up all of the questions I had. Thank you. Happy Holidays 2021 :)
Naim is the best for me. I have a Naim amplifier and CD player and use a dac converter. The sound is absolutely amazing. The only thing that lets me down is that I only have entry level dynaudio speakers. They’re great but I don’t think they really do Naim justice when it comes to detail
Great video Andrew, keep up the good work! I love the C700. Though I don't agree with the Powernode vs C700 statement. Although having the same amplification unit, the C700 has a different power supply which makes it sound more relaxed and cohesive in my opinion. Cheers!
Interesting thoughts. I think Bluesound has now become the more recognizable name, especially among non-audiophile consumers. For this reason, there is still relevance for both Bluesound and NAD to each exist...I agree though, the Powernode being as good as it is for the money has GOT to be cannibalizing C700 sales. M10v2 though is clearly a different product aimed at a different customer. If for no other reason, the room correction will make it sound WAY different even if all the rest of the guts were the same. That feature, along with its much higher price point both target a very different, less casual customer.
It would be great if you tested the roksan attessa streaming amplifier, the price is comparable, bluos on board plus a phono preamplifier and a dedicated cd transport to buy for those willing. And it is AB class :)
Wonderful review and great conversation. It’s why I’m looking at an entry level Hegel H95. Amp with a streamer and DAC. But this review has now solidified my decision paralysis. :) Feels like you have to just plug your nose and choose. Hope you get a Hegel in for review soon.
Having heard both the POWERNODE and the H95 in the same room on the same speakers, the Hegel is in a different league. But then again, it is twice the price….
@@mattyj3051 I've heard both the h95 and the h120. When people say they are in a different league. It genuinely is the case. What's better you ask? Just about everything. You will notice more details due to a blacker soundstage, notes appear better defined and small details will be naturally highlighted and present (for which wouldn't have been apparent before). Dynamic are greatly increased, instruments will sound more natural due to neutral tone voicing and better note decays. Bass is very clear due to the damping factor so wolly or undefined bass disappears. Instruments have vastly more "air", hard to describe but they sound more distinctive and thus separated, like real life. For £1600, I found nothing better. I tried every amp I could find at that price point. The internal dac for me personally beat the chord quest in an a/b listening. However I would go for the h120 over the h95. The difference being that the bass hits harder and there seemed to be better dynamics, and the speakers disappear. I consider it worth the extra price. The hegel to other amps is like having a good pair of head phones vs the ones that came with your phone. Its that similar in step up.
QTOD: If I were the CEO, I probably would not change much, other than maybe a fuller sounding voicing on the NAD products, or adding a tube input stage and BALANCED XLR I/O's(I mean C'mon already). I honestly think that while you may see it as a problem, I think that Lenbrook realized that not all potential buyers want to pay for or even want to use room correction, and as a result they have a product line that doesn't offer it. From that standpoint I don't see any cannibalism on the horizon. I also think that NAD is banking on the Screen of their NAD products to indicate more of a out in the open piece of audio gear, withe BLUESOUND being more "in the rack". As someone who owns multiple components from both brands (I love my M33 BTW) , a NAD 368, 3 Nodes, and a Vault2i, I see them as a company burning the candle from both ends, rather than self cannibalizing.
Love this review! I think it makes sense for speakers like Q acoustic 3030i or anything in that price range! But where I would disagree is in certain situations, the Uniti Atom or the M10 even though it’s expensive, for the long haul, I would still get it in a heart beat for that “ everything is a little bit better”. I guess it’s like buying an Aston Martin DB9 over the DBS. It’s probably similar. I will love the DB9, but everytime I think of the DBS, or god forbid see someone has it, and knowing I can afford it, I would hate myself for not getting the better one. HAHA, but omg I’m interested to listen to this! Thanks Kristi and Andrew! 😃
It seems like an Audiolab 6000/ Rotel A11/ Cambridge AXR 100 with a Bluesond node will give you the same functionality and better sound for less, minus the screen and form factor. I would see this product as a fancy PowerNode rather than a poor mans M33 and again, there is nothing wrong with fancy! I am a strong believer that modern audio needs to fit into modern living spaces and lifestyles (usually represented by WAF :). It is a good product which adds another option/choice you can make based on your needs and lifestyle. It is not a poor value product and it's not the best value product, especially compared to competition outside of NAD/Bluesound space (better value than the CA EVO for sure, kah kah) ...
QOTD: My experience with NAD and Bluesound is nonexistent. That said, I do follow social media, this channel and I do have a marketing degree. I'd gather that the Bluesound is targeting an entry-level | Gen Z audience. NAD seems to be targeting more to the mature audio person that is stepping their toe or moving into streaming services. Is there some cannibalizations? Yeah, but I think it comes down to market segments and target marketing. ie. -- Bluesound Node looks like it fits in a dorm room, where as the NAD products is more for someone who has established themselves in life and I don't see them buying the C700 here. But, who knows, I may be completely wrong.
Totally agree, and to add more I am new to this "audiophile" hobbie (always liked good sound though but never had the budget) and I don't know if it was pure luck or what but I discovered the Bluesound brand earlier than NAD, and I think that the best option is a good "dumb" amp that you love, and a Node, that way when protocols, formats, streamings or whatever get outdated you just buy the next Node there is and continue enjoying music with less upgrade expenses.
@@sabrowenie Exactly! I love my Node 2i - it sits politely in the AV cabinet, connected to my NAS drive via ethernet, and gives me flawless access to my library of music. It does exactly what needs to be done - it's not flashy or gimmicky, and it plays nicely with anything I throw at it or connect it to.
Great review. Even more valuable than the the detailed analysis of the particular product is the fair and unbiased comparison to products immediately above and below the price point of the C700. I have several Bluesound products and I’ve been wondering if I’m missing out on a more expensive amplifier. Your review answered this question for me. I have no interest in album art, displays or innumerable connections. This facet of your reviews is helpful to people that are making purchase decisions. Well done.
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Good morning Andrew and Kristi. I’m late to the party. Sleeping in is glorious though.
I’m very enthusiastic about this segment of the market, having just bought the Arylic 50+. My only concern is that these type of devices are close enough to AV receivers and if this is your only amp you may find yourself looking for AV features once you hook up a TV. Now I’m a video enthusiast so that’s my bias. If your focus is just music then this streamer is a winner, as is the whole category.
Hi there! Thank you for the review! Could you tell me please which amp has a better sound quality ? Cambridge Audio CXA81 or NAD C700 ? Thanks 🙏
Andrew, I have been watching your videos and reviews and they are so very well done and your sophisticated yet easygoing speaking style is quite rare. While your future looks bright here, have you considered having an agent present you to Jeopardy (I think you would be perfect for the role and they are just having guest hosts given their recent host fiasco) or Survivor (another fiasco) or a similar wider-reaching networked format and more wider appealing subject matter? You could still keep this gig, but I believe you have demonstrated the ability to be successful to a much broader audience. Ed.
Which one is better or equal NAD C700 or Audiolab 6000a Play? Both are near the same price ..but I am leaning towards NAD C700 for its compact size but I am worried about if that reduces the quality of sound as compared to Audiolab...I got B&W 607 speakers.
Andrew : will you review the Roksan Attessa BluOS amplifier ? I’m very interested in those Bluesound or NAD streaming amplifiers but I’m scared of being disappointed by the “Class D” sound (with JMR Emma speakers).
The conversation at the end really highlights the issue of Deltas. If we read people’s comments to these types of reviews, it’s always about how A is different from B, and what about C, and surely D is different still…? We want clear differences to guide us in purchasing decisions when, in fact, those differences are many times small, if perceptible at all. “Night and day” is not quite as dramatic as we’d like to think. I appreciate your honesty about how products can be different in many ways, yet sound similar. To use Kristi’s car analogy. An Accord and a Camry are not that different, yet a customer chooses one over the other because of how the car makes them feel. A small detail might push you in one direction, but in the end they both will transport you from A to B just fine. This is why your discussions of user interface, design, and “feel”, are so critical in this price range of products. Quadrupole the budget and the discussion would be different. Deltas are real, but they’re small, and you do a good job emphasizing that. …sorry about the novel.
LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS COMMENT ☝️thank you @Thomas S for understanding and having the right mindset.
So so true. Night and day differences are rare. And I 💯 agree with you that so much about the buying decision is about feelings. It’s the a big influence on how we might justify spending 100s of dollars more on essentially the same product under a different name. Fantastic observation, Thomas.
Ditto .... The most important thing is how my system sounds to me ... at the price point I want to reach.
Great great insight! Saved me a lot of time typing 🤣
I bought the C700 and I'm thrilled with it. No hiccups so far with BluOS either. The C700 exists in a real sweet spot of features, like dedicated sub out, HDMI, high-pass/low-pass filters, and (for me) a freaking physical volume knob. If the Audiolab Omnia had a volume knob, I'd probably own it. The album art is great too. No complaints about the C700 sound either, it's great. Easily outperforms my previous Marantz NR1200.
Sir, your microphone set up is incredible. Your voice comes across so clearly.
I just purchased the C700 and paired them with some small bookshelf speakers. The Klipsch RP400M's. I was trying to build a small compact, great sounding system that utilizes minimal space as I moving to SE Asia. I am very happy how it sounds. The C700 to me is a nice aesthictacally looking product. Bottom line a happy NAD owner.
I've now had the NAD C700 for about six months. This amp is great and the world of Blue Sound has easily doubled my music listening time. Thanks for your review which assisted in my decision.
The C700 got a BluOS update quite recently. Can confirm that responsiveness with TIDAL got way better. Absolute joy to use now.
From 3020(especially the 3020A) to this 😮. Life has come a long way 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Nad. And clap clap again 🎉 for U 2 guys
I really like you guys as a team. 💜
The discussion at the end was the most interesting (for me) part of the video. I really think the blue sound node is the star of the show here. You can marry it to whichever amp you like and have the power and ease of use of BlueOs. I also have the Powernode and while it's great one stop shop, I wish it had the ability to output to other amps like my Node does. Subbed!
Regarding market cross over - think of the POWERNODE as the Toyota Camry and the C700 as the Lexus ES and the M33 as the Lexus LC. You want price/performance ratio, get a POWERNODE. You want a nicer look, a screen for the menu options and an on device menu - well get the c700. You want outright performance - get the M33. Toyota -> $35K, Lexus ES->$60K, Lexus LC -> $100K. POWERNODE -> $1049, C700 -> $1500, M33 -> $4500. Different types of consumers -- you just have to figure out what kind you are :) Me? I just ordered a POWERNODE. And I drive a Camry too :)
My attention was grabbed by Kristi and you when you stated bland general appeal to one audience, which is bean counter marketing and works. Of the 100k+ home theaters out there less than 3% are full Dolby ATMOS (Stats from Sound United) and Andrew, you know about the limited appeal of pre-amps with mono-blocks from the price range. Very few are wiling to pay what a car costs to have a good A/V or stereo system. NAD is looking to a future that is the now.
Glad and not surprised to see the Powernode (2021) sounds like the new C700. Both are 80 wpc Hypex-based amps. I fell in love with the Powernode this summer, and it works fine with my Maggie 1.7is. Really impressive soundstage and clarity, but perhaps a bit leaner than my AB integrated amps. Instantly more engaging compared to the AB amps. Would like to see a review of the NAD C298 Purifi module-based power amp, or another Purifi amp, to hear how it compares with the Powernode/C700 sound. More power for the Maggies.
Seems obvious that Lenbrook is repurposing the engineering for multiple brands, and if that keeps the prices more reasonable, fine with me. Contrary to the video discussion, I still see a reasonable market differentiation between NAD and Bluesound, with one targeting the traditional budget enthusiast and the other targeting the plug-and-play multiroom market (the Sonos customer). Sure, as the tech progresses, there's a convergence of the experience. It may reach a point that they can't justify the segmentation, but I don't think it's there yet. Cheers for the great reviews and video production values. Always enjoy it.
Agree with a review on the new c298! I got one myself😁. Really good sound from it!
Soundstage is wonderful big and everything sounds very accurate to the source! Shit in shit out! And the best thing is that if you have a really hiend preamp it will show that to you. I have compared it to a rotel rb1582mk2 amp and it sounded def more neutral and clean than the rotel.
I def think its a real hiend amplifier.
I bought a Node and after a week I returned it. I mostly used it as ROON endpoint and for the money, I ordered an Allo Boss2 to compare. I liked the Boss2 so much I ordered a second one.
I ordered them with MoOde, installed ROON bridge and simply love using these, one for my den and the second in our studio/office. Both cost less than one Node!
I love Roon, but the point of the Bluesound NODE (and BluOS as a whole) is that you don't need Roon and the 500 Euro subscription and the 500 Euro server. It already has a fully functioning streaming suite built-in.
Don't get me wrong. In many ways, I think Roon is superior as streaming software. I just think that for most people the BluOS platform is way easier to start using.
@@nielschristiaans1263 I was hoping I could use the Node to replace ROON but BlueOS doesn’t do the things ROON can. For example, I cannot use BlueOS on my phone to play music from my Synology FLAC library to my phone, or to my receivers, only to the system the Node is connected to. Node/BlueOS didn’t work for me.
I have the NAD C-388 and never looked back. After over 50 years of chasing the holly grail had many Audio set up/systems, I went for convenience, simplicity, fewer cables it's upgradable has plenty of power, Roon ready it suites all my needs.
And the NAD c 399 is supposed to be available next month. No flashy screen display, but lots of trickle down technology from M33 and other Master series components. Definitely on my radar.
Just a heads up to anyone considering the C700 to play music from a usb thumb drive, the amp does not allow front panel access to libraries connected via usb. The usb input is only accessible via the remote app. I chose the C700 over the Powernode because I was hoping to be able to use the key features directly on the amp's front panel with the volume dial, buttons, and large color screen without needing a secondary screen/device. I realize this may not be an issue for a lot of people who only control it via their phone, but I wanted to bring it up for the old heads looking at this unit.
Also, screen brightness settings are not retained when forcing the amp into standby/powering down. If you leave the amp network connected and allow it to go into sleep mode, the brightness should be remembered, but not if you shut it down. I think the manual calls this vacation mode. I keep the brightness on my phone turned down and had hoped to do the same on the amp. I found the auto brightness setting to be jumpy and distracting in my space. Just so you know.
Otherwise, the amp has performed well in my short time with it. It sounds good and I really appreciate the small size and diversity of inputs. I hope the bugs I found can be corrected with firmware updates.
I'm currently investigating options for this exact same set-up: a HIFI all-in-one system to listen to music and connect my TV. To me, the real difference between the NAD and the Powernode is the following: I would enjoy exposing the NAD in full sight, while I would definitely hide the Powernode inside a cupboard. The NAD looks like an Audi, the Powernode does not even look like a VW. ;-)
I would like a review on the new c399 when its out. Seems like a real bargain!
Coupled with bluos streaming AND dirac live its gonna be a giant killer if you want an all in one solution. 180w power to deal with😉.
I have the new c298 which is fantastis.
Will try it with the c399 as preamp.
“What’s the point of anything”. LOL!
I came across the C700 the other day at the dealer. It wasn’t turned on but I took a look at, gave the knob a spin and thought it seemed cheaply built for the price.
I’d pick the Powenode over it, or the M10. I suppose that decision is just based off the design alone.
I own an M10 and like it a lot! Great performance, features (ie. DIRAC). Also looks and feels nice. Getting some Metas next week and can’t wait to see how they work together.
Oh… parting thought! I think you can add to DIRAC to the C700 via a software update or module. Might be worth considering if you’re happy with the C700 but looking to upgrade down the road. So maybe it is a viable option…
Great reviews, I just pulled the trigger on the NAD C700
i just bought a powernode 2i (last gen) for very cheap and love it. Obsolescence is a concern when buying software focused products. Every time a new a new chipset is used, it raises a potential flag for future support.
I like how Andrew retorted "i didn't gloss over it" a few times. Power to you dude! No pun intended.
I watch most of your vids Andrew but seeing the Lastlings album art on the NAD got me to click instantly! Fantastic Aussie duo that I've had the pleasure of seeing a few times!
Love your reviews you guys. Very honest and down to Earth. I always watch other reviews for the same pieces of equipment but your structure just hits the nail on the head in so many ways.
Also, selfishly, the only tower speakers for the money that I’ve never heard and am so interested in are the Aperion Audio Verus III Concert V8T (or V6T) Tower Speakers. Everyone that has them is mind blown but not many reviews on TH-cam at all!
Plus that cherry finish…
I had ordered the M10 (v2) before I knew there was this affordable alternative coming out. The M10 is great, I love the sound and Dirac is especially good. the touch screen is nice - but so is a real volume knob. And for half the price… this one seems to be a great deal if you don’t need Dirac.
Oh, I forgot one important thing: The M10 now offers 4.2 via two blusound surround back channels - which was one main argument for me to wait for the V2. But I haven‘t installed this system - yet. The surround backs are missing and so is the KEF sub. :-)
In the whole Bluesound vs NAD line of thought, Bluesound is a great foray into streaming for old guys/gals that want to add to their already nice systems. I for instance have a wonderful system containing a GAS Theobe & Son of Ampzilla running into a set of Martin Logan eStats. I added a vault to the setup and it's a great addition to my main listening room. That said, add a power node to an old set of Advent's and you can put together a grarage/man-cave setup for very low $$. Advents, even though 50 years old or so, still have a great bass and a non-tiring 2-way design. Not to mention that you can find good pairs at rummage sales for $25-$50 a pair. That said, I think Bluesound products have a place in the product line. Maybe they even become a 3rd generation 3020...
I’m more than happy with my NAD C388 amplifier. 😉
I totally agree, the C388 is the top of the NAD 'Classic-series' food chain - great peice of gear!
I use a Node 2i as a dedicated tidal streamer into a NAD c368 into a PS Audio s300 power amplifier. I have my TV audio out connected to the C368. The NAD c368 is future proof as it uses the module approach if you wish. So in theory better versions of the Bluesound streamer can be swapped in in the future. As to NAD canibalising from itself, I thbhink the units are sufficiently different. Class a/b v class d amplification. Life style aimed v more hifi aimed. Anyway, a fantastic video as always. You really hit in something having both of you discussing the products. That is my favorite part!
I disagree with "future proof" when it comes to NAD. I had a NAD receiver with module update capability. Upgraded the modules myself, thereby saving some money. Now I believe the module upgrades have to been down by an authorized person, which adds cost. Also, the modules are bloody expensive. Eventually the product will not be upgradeable with future modules. I know this from past experience. It is my believe that one is better off selling the old unit and buying a new unit than upgrading it with the new modules. The new modules will not save you much money and a new unit might have better technology and improvements to the amps, pre-amps, D/A converters and a fully warranty versus an older unit with upgraded modules that is out of warranty expect possibly for the modules themselves.
@@johnpereira6934 totally agree with you, the new modules are ridiculously overpriced. If my NAD 758v3 requires an updated module I’ll sell the receiver for cheap and start over. It’s really a shame because they make some great products.
Can’t agree here guys. I think it’s great having a cheaper version of a high end product. If you do so desire or can afford then get the bit better version. If not get the entry level job. 🔈👍🏻
@Andrew Robinson QOTD; The Bluesound/NAD seems to have competing products, The C700 uses age old Class-D Hypex UcD modules. Nicely integrated but technology is too old for a $1000+ amp , M10/M33 amps use much newer Hypex-ncore and Purifi modules. It seems NAD is shifting towards the all digital class-D product range.
Exactly what I was hoping to hear! The album art, meters and volume knob are sexy and this is a device that asks to be displayed. As I'm still invested in Apple Music and Airplay dependent, losing the album art, the extra cost over the POWERNODE makes less sense. BUT!!!...Should Apple Music make its way to BluOS...then I may kick myself.
As to the question at hand, maybe Bluesound becomes the Honda to NAD's Acura...Yes, I didn't mention Toyota/Lexus.
IS THE WHARFEDALE LINTON REVIEW INCOMING NEXT!!???
I've been waiting patiently...
It’s not next. But soon.
Of course they are going for the integrated devices. The problem with those devices is that once one part of it gets outdated (usually the digital/streaming part), then a lot of people will want to upgrade to a system with the newest functionality. But that means throwing out a perfectly good amp and other parts. And generally people are creatures of habit, sot hey don't want to learn a new system every time they upgrade. This means that it's likely they'll buy into the same brand again. And to replace their "all in one box system" they'll have to buy a new "all in one box" system, which is generally a more expensive item.
I really enjoy your reviews. Prior to coming across your channel, I literally had a pair of Sonos 5's but have since purchased the KEF LS50 Meta's and the Cambridge CXA81. As a novice to this new hobby of mine, your channel has led to a huge burst of curiosity and exploration. Thank you. I'm not sure if you're aware of the new Roksan Attessa streaming amplifier but if it is on your radar, we'd love to see your review.
I thoroughly enjoyed the discussion regarding brands, trickle down, features, and car comparisons (and obviously am not alone). The review was good as well 🤓
Thanks for continuing to create engaging and entertaining videos, Kristi and Andrew!
Thank you so much!
Thank you for watching the whole video. We sincerely appreciate it.
The large "umbrella" corps are not concerned with cannibalising sales between their sub-brands - it is deliberate strategy to take up consumer mindspace. All they want is for you to buy from one of their brands (doesn't matter which) rather than a product from a competitor "umbrella" corp. By throwing loads of brands at you, you think you're getting "choice" but your selection is actually going to be between a very limited number of actual entities.
That's exactly correct, cannibalising sales is not a problem when your goal is to saturate the market with choices. The C700 is a good example of leveraging existing parts and tech to bring another 'slightly different' version to market inexpensively. Doesn't mean the C700 (or saturation strategy) is bad, just means Lenbrook is marketing for success and to suit every customer - what they should be doing.
Our family has 4 vehicles. Two are VWs and two are Audis. All are built on the same MQB platform and use the same basic 2 liter turbo 4 and they have a lot of driving characteristics in common. The Audis, an A3 Quattro and a TTS, feel like they are built with somewhat higher quality materials. They perform better and have nicer interiors. It’s hard to believe that the Tiguan and the TTS are built on the same platform but it also makes me realize how much the details matter. I am happy they both exist and I think I feel the same way about the Bluesound Power Node and the NAD. It’s good to have choices even if they only differ slightly. I am happy with my current setup of Klipsch The Fives and a sub using Apple TV for music and the only way I will change is for something that is just as easy. Both of these qualify. So I am happy they exist. Maybe they should be different tiers of the same model line?
When you drive the Audis do you get the urge to drive 6 inches from the rear bumper of the car in front despite the speed and park in 2 spaces as they normally do here in the UK? 🤣
Another fantastic review! Sunday morning means coffee and a new review to watch! And she’s right, you kinda glossed over the Evo there at first. 😂
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And a Cigar as well
I own an Evo and regardless of streamer you are using I think to obtain true audiophile quality sound you need to use it as a preamp into a bonafide power amp to get the headroom and soundstage we desire. The class D amplifier in EVO has pros and cons, mine runs daily for 5-8 hours per day so the fact it runs cool is awesome. Granted I love the “British sound” so Im biased. Incidentally I paired my Evo with an old Parasound 500 I picked up cheap and the before and after was mind expanding. 😊
So getting an external amp really changed up the sound? I’m considering an external for my NAD10. Also a Parasound Halo stereo amp
Whoa, was secretly waiting on this comparison. Andrew and Kristi giving the people what they want!
Yay!
Hope it was worth the wait. We do our best to anticipate what it is you're going to want to check out next!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews it was worth it! Thanks for bringing audio to 21st century 😅
Everything is a computer now. My $6000US Naim Uniti Star’s display has gone dark immediately after a firmware update. It has been weeks, with nothing from Naim other than the typical dances around a totem pole and speaking in tongues. Save your money and buy something else. You could replace 10 of them for what I paid for one Uniti Star. I’m screwed because I also have two Mu-so units, so I’m kind of uninterested in total replacement of a $9000 multi-room system.
I was contemplating getting one of these, and was waiting for your review after you noted in a prior one that it was in house. Verdict: Sold. I'll be getting one. Thanks for the great reviews!
I think I’ve watched about 30 or 40 of your video reviews this past week and love them all. I’ve been looking to upgrade my home office room audio with amps and speakers and I’ve gone with the C700 in large part because of this review which just helped me discount a lot of other amps before even going in store to check them out in person, and probably pairing them with some focal Chora 806’s.
Thanks for putting everything in a way a simpleton like me can understand!
Just want to say thanks for giving direct recommendations like power node over this, but with caveats. Makes our job easier as consumers.
Thank you Andrew and Christi didn't expect the Video this soon XD. Your Video really brings the hype for my coming dealer appointment. And Andrew what is missing in NADs Lineup is a Node with a Screen with XLR outputs so you can pair it with a Poweramp like two Schiit Aegirs oder a Hegel H20. A Screen is a screen and now there is a Bluesound Powernode with a Screen. I know Iam willing to pay the extra and i bet (hope) there are more^^
Agree with y’all here. I love my NAD C368, one feature that’s worth mentioning is MDC flexibility. It’s nice to know I could say, get an 8k HDMI module a few years from now so it’s not obsolete.
Great review - I thought about a power node for a few months until I saw the C700 released. Compared to the M10 price this was a no-brainer for me. Paired a new C700 with some Paradigm speakers - I am in love.
In my opinion we have two different ways NAD/Bluesound can go in terms of strategy :
1) NAD focuses on integrated Amps (what they do historically) and Bluesound specializes on being just sources/DAC (BlueOS experience). Obviously both using BlueOS but one focusing on the amplification part.
2) they separate the brands in one more affordable brand which would be Bluesound and take advantage of NAD "brand's reputation" (as Kristy said) to make more high-end orientated products. I guess this is what is happening but they maybe should be clearer on their strategy. As you said, one can be really close to the other whereas prices are quite different, this isn't good for orienting the client to one or another solution
I think the two brands will coexist. Bluesound Powernode is more attractive to beginners. It has an "Apple" vibe, it's very simple and "just works". On the other hand, NAD seems more appealing to more mature listeners.
I had the nad t666? (Bought it in 2015]. After using this in my home theater system for six years, it stopped working. I brought it to the local authorized nad repair shop, and nad agreed to cover the cost of repair. The estimate for the repair was $1,500. (Burned out amplifier, etc.) The NAD service rep advised that it wasn’t worth repairing, since there was no guarantee that the receiver wouldn’t break down again. Nad offered to give me a 50% credit towards the t778. It seemed like a good deal at the time. I then started reading reviews on the Crutchfield site. Roughly half the receivers were returned to Crutchfield due to defects. Who needs the aggravation? Bought a Marantz sr8015 instead. (One man’s experience.)
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Loved your reflections about how the NAD amplifiers become more and more similar, at least from a user perspective, but was very surprised to hear that Kristi preferred this amp over the M33 with Purifi modules and all.
PS. I'm a very happy owner of the M32
I can totally understand how one would like one amp topology over another. The Purifi modules are impressive as are the Hypex ones, but they definitely have mildly different flavors. While I appreciated the M33 for its exacting performance, in the end it left me a bit "cold" as in not engaged. Is the M33 a good product? Absolutely, without a doubt. But would I buy it, no. I actually think the less perfect sound of the C700 is more to my taste, but that's just me. Appreciate you watching!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews M33 being so expensive and NAD not communicating clearly whether it's subwoofer troubles can be mitigated without needing to change components makes M33 a rather poor purchase. It's been known for months and nobody knows even if it will be taken care of or not.
I love your channel with lots of useful reviews. Especially a lot of streaming amplifiers. One I hope you one day manage to test is Lyngdorf TDAI-1120. I had one for home demo for a week and RoomPerfect is an amazing piece of tech. The separation of instruments and vocals is simply scary and provide a total new soundstage while keeping the sound signature of the speakers.
Furthermore. Eventhough it is a digital amplifier it sounds more like an AB amplifier.
I would say that the Bluesound name is more recognised than NAD here in the UK. It is definitely a name with more impact here in the UK and the brilliant node 2i has helped push that. If I was part of their marketing team then it would be a no brainer to eventually phase out the NAD name completely, as Bluesound is well known for the streaming capabilities and that is the future of hifi. Hopefully the TV integration will quickly follow so that the TV'S screen can be used for the streamers screen instead of those piddly wee screens used on streamers, which are difficult for us with eyes painted on to see.
They didn’t really say that. When pushed Andrew said he didn’t actually know, but initially suggested that it could be due to being more readily available. Kristi clearly thought NAD was still the more recognisable brand and she’d actually researched it. In the end they both thought 20:07 it was probably more likely that Bluesound would be absorbed into NAD.
I’m also from the UK and Bluesound is still a niche product. You can’t buy it in somewhere like John Lewis or Curry’s like you can Sonos. It’s more of a lifestyle brand compared to NAD which is has Hi-Fi history having been around for nearly 50 years.
NAD C 700 vs Cambridge Audio CXA81 would be a good comparison!
Well, it turns out that BlueOS is getting more traction since other brands will use it as well. Cyrus (new streamer) and Roksan (Attessa) use BlueOS as the streaming platform, other brand may follow. Combine such a streamer with active speakers and you're done.
I love the comparison with audi and vw so dang true ...
I'm holding out for the M10 V2. Hopefully one of those will come your way and be reviewed. Now that it's a V2 I'm very interested in a direct comparison with the Uniti Atom. It'll be one or the other for me given a reasonable amount of time to pass and peoples experiences to be expressed. I know it shouldn't be a factor, but, those VU meters really do it for me...
I felt like I was listening to a linux distro description as you went down the formats the C700 can handle (I'm in IT). This isn't a criticism of your review, it just makes me ask "okay, is this audio now?" Everyone is using one of 3 or 4 "blessed" DACs, (probably based on availability), the underlying signal path is all handled through BluOS, Good Class D amplification, some reasonable speakers and ta-da, here's another boxen for you to enjoy / evaluate / experience with only the gatekeepers grinding their teeth. Good thing? Probably. Maybe take the preamp outs & put them through your Audiolab and see if there are differences in the signal processing? Or perhaps that Emperor is actually butt-nekkid and we've been sold on a name. Or a NAIM... ;-) Great work, btw, picked up a Caimbridge Audio AXR100 to start building a new system based on your recommendation.
I love that you not only turn the video over to Kristie (wife?), and I REALLY love that she has thoughts on this stuff. My wife doesn't really care. But I think she should join you on the screen. It seems weird to have you on screen when she is really the star of this segment.
While I get the appeal of the all-in-one, it takes away the ability to experiment. I had a Powernode 2i. Loved the UX, but wasn't so enamored with SQ (lacked dynamics and soundstage was very flat IMO), but there was no way to upgrade. So I did as Andrew mentioned and replaced it with a new NODE and a separate power amp. Same UX, but now have the ability to experiment with dacs and amps, and now that the NODE has HDMI in it covers all my pre-amp needs.
And thanks for another great review! Loved the convo with Kristi!
Buy a Bluesound Node, a miniDSP with Dirac and reasonably priced small form factor amp - some are even class A/B if class D isn't your thing. Now you have the capability of the M10 for a lot less money, although not as elegant a solution. As for a touch screen I don't really care if there is one. I'm not going to get up to go to the unit to use it's functionality when a remote or app on a smartphone/tablet can accomplish the same thing from my listening position.
Funnily enough, a friend does just this. He has a Bluesound node. A MiniDSP and a Rega amp driving some tasty Quadral speakers. It's a beautiful sounding setup for the money.
I recently purchased the Onkyo RZ50 based on your review (still excitedly waiting on it) to replace a 7 year old Marantz. I will stick to 5.1 because we watch movies around 60% of the time but very curious how music compares between a good AV receiver and a 2.1 channel amp. Is there much of a difference? Thanks again for all you both do. Y’all make the audio journey fun, educational and practical.
Hi Andrew - picked up A
C 700 after your review. I'm very pleased with it. I'm not having any problem with lag. May just be your unit. This is a wonderful step up in sound. Great value for sure.
Still enjoying yours?
I have mixed feelings about it not being a touch screen...the size of the screen is ideal for that feature...but not having a smudged up screen that you would have to constantly clean is also pretty good...so controlling it via smart phone is perfectly fine
Biggest issue of NAD products is the lack of Chromecast built-in. Which Naim and Cambridge Audio have.
I had a demo unit for a few days at home. The sound was very clean, but also a little clinical. Because of the Bluesound system there is a 50ms delay on all inputs, even the HDMI input. So there was a lipp sync issue when watching TV that was very annoying.
There working on it.
That’s a bit of an issue for me. I am considering getting one in part to watch TV. I also intend to hook up my vinyl turntables (through a mixer) to the analog input on it, but with high input lag this can be tricky. How do you know they’re working on it?
This can be changed, there is a lip sync adjuster
@@MrJonnywarren1985 You can adjust it from 50ms to 150ms, but can't go below 50ms. This is done deliberately according to Bluesound because of grouping. If the C700 has the same issue, i don't see them changing this anytime soon.
Good review, Kristi & Andrew. For me, I still think a separate streamer is still the way to go. I understand the convenience of the NAD C700, but it seems like too much of a compromise for the $$$.
Another excellent and enjoyable review to watch. If you have to pick btw the power blue node, NAD C 700 or Audio play 6000A. Which amp would you guys pick?
I’m still Audiolab + say a Node
What I do care about is the user experience of the app. How seamlessly things work. If you get a Sony CDP-X7ESD CD player, or any CD player with the KSS-190A mechanism, it switches tracks almost instantly, and you can search forwards or backwards in a track at 2 different speeds. And it's a solid piece of high-performance kit. I want something like a C700 - or a (power)node - that has a similar high quality feel to how things work. It's probably not that easy when it comes to streaming services though. But it should be able to do this when connecting to my own music library.
Must say, those black Lintons look sturdy! 🙂
Review incoming?
Awesome review per usually! I have the T778 and have been having similar problems with Tidal and BluOS after Tidal updated and changed a few things. I’ve just been using Tidal connect instead.
As for your question. I feel like Blusound is bigger if you are new to the industry whereas if you’ve been around the block NAD is the more recognizable name and I feel NAD knows this which puts them in a dilemma. At most i think it will just say BluOS by NAD.
Your comment just answered my question lol. I’m looking to build my first system and was wondering if you can use the connect versions of the apps themselves as opposed to the blue os app. I’m coming from the kef ls50 wireless version 1 and was very used to using Spotify connect with that. Not sure I’m entirely sold on this NAD product but a blue sound node might be in my future as the streamer.
@@unklecorky2181 yeah both Tidal and Spotify connect work, although you may still have to set up BluOS but can skip using the app afterwords.
I love the Kef LS50s though. What speakers are you going to get?
Anthony, thanks for sharing your experience with the T778 after the updates. We don’t have it any more to have been able to test the OS. Great product though!
Nice review guys. I agree. Similarly SMSLs' DA-8S ($169) and DA-9 ($249) - save the sub out and a nicer looking facade, they are the exact same amp. Can't wrap my head around why manufacturers keep doing the "old wine in a new bottle thing", when all that's different is the bottle and the label.
You’re on a tear lately! Good stuff!
Thanks!
Wow, Lastlings on the screen. Great band from the Gold Coast, Australia.
Thank you for a great review once more.
I was going for the Powernode at first, but the additionnal analog inputs (I would use for SACD & Vinyl) made me choose the C700.
I will pair it with KLH Model 5 that I also picked mostly because of your review... So thank you for that as well !
Wishing you guys the best !
So how do you like it with your Model 5? I also have Model 5 and am trying to decide on an integrated amp. Was thinking about Rotel A14 MK II but I would like to have Apple Play.
I will say that a possible future Bluesound product (Powernode or NAD) that is a WiSA ready transmitter, coupled with WiSA speakers would be true all in one solution. As soon as such an all in one system is available for under $1,500 (speakers included) it will "break the internet", or as my generation used to say "sell like hot cakes". As for me the only NAD product that appeals to me is the traditional C298 two channel power amplifier, which is essentially the same Purifi amp module that's in the M33. Thank you Kristi and Andrew for your excellence (yeah, I'm old, but not gender bias).
Wharfedale Lintons in Black Oak when did that happen, gorgeous!
We're all still waiting on that review
Question, Did you try the preamp outputs, or is that a feature that you generally test? On your question of the day, for me, I think NAD will always be NAD and I will think BluOS will be seen similarly to IOS. I guess that means that NAD will just be known as a product that is known that is powered by BluOS, like Sound United has HEOS.
On a separate topic (mostly because I'm not sure on what platform to ask you guys individual questions. Outlaw Audio is said to be really popular but I don't see many reviews on the product. Also, have guys heard of HI-FI Rose products? They seem to have Streamers/Preamps that do everything, similar to the NAD product that you reviewed here, they seem pretty awesome.
Thanks to you both for this review. I appreciate the comparisons to other, similar products on the market. It’s great to know not necessarily “which is the best”, but the relative attributes of each so we can decide which ones are most important to our own desires. Cheers!
I have to say, most of the time, built in versions of BlueOS are terrible. Before I got a Rotel integrated and Node combo, I went with NAD C388 with the BlueOS module. It would always play about 30-40 seconds, and then completely lose connection to internet regardless wether it’s connected through Wi-Fi or Ethernet. It was stupidly frustrating for a brand new amp. And after dealing with it for a week, I returned it and went with the mentioned combo and couldn’t be happier.
Great video and discussion, this market is getting very confusing for the buyer. One thing to point out when comparing the Powernode/Node to this NAD, you can't underestimate the appeal of that nice display screen with album artwork. It's a very attractive feature and the(?) major distinguishing factor.
I’ve been using a NAD 7120 as a second system amp for 6 years. Hasn’t failed me yet!
That's great!
What do you love most about it?
I bought a Lexus not a Toyota because I enjoyed the whole experience more. It felt more special. Pretty much psychology, no real data to back up the choice.
Can we review the Marantz 7000N please?
It would be nice if NAD could also add a CD player in the same size format.
@@vincentpedalino618 I know I had a NAD 520 for many years, there is something to be said for a CD player that matches the size of the C700.
Marantz has one
Review aside..Props for showing the Lastlings album on the amp display..really good but commercially ignored moody synth pop record..and the group puts on a decent live performance too!
Listen to your feedback! I think you a make a valid point about how products begin to look redundant, even as you go up in the product line.
I have the Blue Sound Vault 2i and I love it! I run the signal direct to my Schitt Ragnarok 2 and use that DAC - it's a great set up.
Great review Andrew and Kristi. I particularly enjoyed and appreciated the discussion at the end of the review, that picked up all of the questions I had. Thank you. Happy Holidays 2021 :)
Naim is the best for me. I have a Naim amplifier and CD player and use a dac converter. The sound is absolutely amazing. The only thing that lets me down is that I only have entry level dynaudio speakers. They’re great but I don’t think they really do Naim justice when it comes to detail
Which speakers do u have? The emit series?
@@mihai6976 No. the dm 2/7s but now I also have some pmc 23s. They’re far better
@@mihai6976 the emit replaced the dm 2/7s but apparently they’re not that much of an improvement
Dope, dope, dope video! Future-Fi looks promising. I like the BluOS ecosystem.
Every aspect covered so simply but precisely. You have this magic, Andrew!♠
Wow, thank you!
Great video Andrew, keep up the good work! I love the C700. Though I don't agree with the Powernode vs C700 statement. Although having the same amplification unit, the C700 has a different power supply which makes it sound more relaxed and cohesive in my opinion. Cheers!
Lovely review. But damn I’m looking forward to that Linton review.
Interesting thoughts. I think Bluesound has now become the more recognizable name, especially among non-audiophile consumers. For this reason, there is still relevance for both Bluesound and NAD to each exist...I agree though, the Powernode being as good as it is for the money has GOT to be cannibalizing C700 sales.
M10v2 though is clearly a different product aimed at a different customer. If for no other reason, the room correction will make it sound WAY different even if all the rest of the guts were the same. That feature, along with its much higher price point both target a very different, less casual customer.
It would be great if you tested the roksan attessa streaming amplifier, the price is comparable, bluos on board plus a phono preamplifier and a dedicated cd transport to buy for those willing. And it is AB class :)
One day.
Wonderful review and great conversation.
It’s why I’m looking at an entry level Hegel
H95. Amp with a streamer and DAC. But this review has now solidified my decision paralysis. :)
Feels like you have to just plug your nose and choose.
Hope you get a Hegel in for review soon.
Having heard both the POWERNODE and the H95 in the same room on the same speakers, the Hegel is in a different league. But then again, it is twice the price….
Saying that some people still add a Node to the H95 in order to get BluOs….
@@nebilb.6362 I can’t wait to finally hear it. What stands out to you? Clarity? Power ?…,
@@mattyj3051 I've heard both the h95 and the h120. When people say they are in a different league. It genuinely is the case. What's better you ask? Just about everything. You will notice more details due to a blacker soundstage, notes appear better defined and small details will be naturally highlighted and present (for which wouldn't have been apparent before). Dynamic are greatly increased, instruments will sound more natural due to neutral tone voicing and better note decays. Bass is very clear due to the damping factor so wolly or undefined bass disappears. Instruments have vastly more "air", hard to describe but they sound more distinctive and thus separated, like real life.
For £1600, I found nothing better. I tried every amp I could find at that price point. The internal dac for me personally beat the chord quest in an a/b listening.
However I would go for the h120 over the h95. The difference being that the bass hits harder and there seemed to be better dynamics, and the speakers disappear. I consider it worth the extra price.
The hegel to other amps is like having a good pair of head phones vs the ones that came with your phone. Its that similar in step up.
@@a2blimitless370 thanks for your response!
I can’t wait to hear it.
QTOD: If I were the CEO, I probably would not change much, other than maybe a fuller sounding voicing on the NAD products, or adding a tube input stage and BALANCED XLR I/O's(I mean C'mon already). I honestly think that while you may see it as a problem, I think that Lenbrook realized that not all potential buyers want to pay for or even want to use room correction, and as a result they have a product line that doesn't offer it. From that standpoint I don't see any cannibalism on the horizon. I also think that NAD is banking on the Screen of their NAD products to indicate more of a out in the open piece of audio gear, withe BLUESOUND being more "in the rack". As someone who owns multiple components from both brands (I love my M33 BTW) , a NAD 368, 3 Nodes, and a Vault2i, I see them as a company burning the candle from both ends, rather than self cannibalizing.
Love this review! I think it makes sense for speakers like Q acoustic 3030i or anything in that price range!
But where I would disagree is in certain situations, the Uniti Atom or the M10 even though it’s expensive, for the long haul, I would still get it in a heart beat for that “ everything is a little bit better”.
I guess it’s like buying an Aston Martin DB9 over the DBS. It’s probably similar. I will love the DB9, but everytime I think of the DBS, or god forbid see someone has it, and knowing I can afford it, I would hate myself for not getting the better one.
HAHA, but omg I’m interested to listen to this! Thanks Kristi and Andrew! 😃
It seems like an Audiolab 6000/ Rotel A11/ Cambridge AXR 100 with a Bluesond node will give you the same functionality and better sound for less, minus the screen and form factor. I would see this product as a fancy PowerNode rather than a poor mans M33 and again, there is nothing wrong with fancy! I am a strong believer that modern audio needs to fit into modern living spaces and lifestyles (usually represented by WAF :). It is a good product which adds another option/choice you can make based on your needs and lifestyle. It is not a poor value product and it's not the best value product, especially compared to competition outside of NAD/Bluesound space (better value than the CA EVO for sure, kah kah) ...
QOTD: My experience with NAD and Bluesound is nonexistent. That said, I do follow social media, this channel and I do have a marketing degree. I'd gather that the Bluesound is targeting an entry-level | Gen Z audience. NAD seems to be targeting more to the mature audio person that is stepping their toe or moving into streaming services. Is there some cannibalizations? Yeah, but I think it comes down to market segments and target marketing. ie. -- Bluesound Node looks like it fits in a dorm room, where as the NAD products is more for someone who has established themselves in life and I don't see them buying the C700 here. But, who knows, I may be completely wrong.
Totally agree, and to add more I am new to this "audiophile" hobbie (always liked good sound though but never had the budget) and I don't know if it was pure luck or what but I discovered the Bluesound brand earlier than NAD, and I think that the best option is a good "dumb" amp that you love, and a Node, that way when protocols, formats, streamings or whatever get outdated you just buy the next Node there is and continue enjoying music with less upgrade expenses.
The Node also goes well for us established vintage gear folks who want to add a level of convenience for our setup.
@@sabrowenie Exactly! I love my Node 2i - it sits politely in the AV cabinet, connected to my NAS drive via ethernet, and gives me flawless access to my library of music. It does exactly what needs to be done - it's not flashy or gimmicky, and it plays nicely with anything I throw at it or connect it to.
Great review. Even more valuable than the the detailed analysis of the particular product is the fair and unbiased comparison to products immediately above and below the price point of the C700. I have several Bluesound products and I’ve been wondering if I’m missing out on a more expensive amplifier. Your review answered this question for me. I have no interest in album art, displays or innumerable connections. This facet of your reviews is helpful to people that are making purchase decisions. Well done.