Ernst Krenek: String Quartet No.8 Op.233 (1980)
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- Ernst Krenek (1900-1991): Quartetto per archi n. 8 op. 233 (1980) -- Sonare-Quartett
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"Walked" into this on the heels of Babbitts 2nd. Didnt consciously know what I was listening to. Krenek is an all time great in this genre. Not sure that all of his symphonies will survive or what of the concertos will enter the repertoire. But string quartets he is here to stay.
Thank you for sharing great art and music.
Great music, great art.
A studied dodecaphony at the Juilliard but this man was not mentioned. Now thanks to my interest I have found Ernst Krenek in abundance in You Tube. This music has for me a lot of appeal. It is nearer to Alban Berg than Anton von Webern.
Starting from the dodecaphonism of Schoenberg, Krenek evolved adter WW2 adding techniques of his own. He did not take into account the processes of the "avant-garde" of the 50-60's. This quartet is quite characteristic of that peculiar technique.The result is quite appealing. Krenek is underrated in my opinion.
you are everywhere Gérard
I agree absolutely
No argument here. Underrated is an understatement.
Truly one of the great composers of string quartets of all time. He should be included (in the most positive sense) as one of the 2nd Viennese School with S,B and W. This 8th and final quartet embraces numerous schools including the ultra modernist American's.
I disagree, because he is the following generation after "S,B and W". He grew out of their influnce during the fifties (latest) and became much more cosmopolitan as much as he became aware of all aspects of the postwar avantgarde.
@@9827george upon what are you disagreeing? I note his being influenced by s, b and w. Following which he then embraces the other styles that came later. Aren't you saying the same thing?
Oh please.
good recording
this sounds much more contemporary than I expected from the composer of Johnnie auf... Like many composers living now very sound energized ,though the themes have shape and seem to develop in completely new ways.Definitely easier to follow than those of middle ,late Bartok .Oh wow!.This was published 1980! Didn't know he lived that long. geese! wow and huge opus numbers! There must be a lot to him I don't know . one of the religious works he wrote gets lot of analytical attention!
If you think that was modern, you've gotta hear this piece: th-cam.com/video/Sq4dV03Y9xo/w-d-xo.html
Actually this version is a little more faithful to the score: th-cam.com/video/ym6jPqScaEU/w-d-xo.html
But still, modern as hell.
in the context you are writing krenek is a monster, hundred years from now his music will still be in the mix. carter, schnittkeblah blah, schoenberg, krenek blah
He was very prolific. A composer friend of mine disparaged him but maybe was being unfair.
A lot of thanks !
This sounds much like Tishchenko. Was Tishchenko inspired by him, vice versa, or did they work with each other?
Hi! I am a graduate of the Juilliard and wanted to answer your idea of comparison. Krenek was a much older man living in California and I do not know of him meeting Tishchenko. There is an influence from Krenek however although Tishchenko's music is typically Russian and Krenek is a part of the second Viennese school of Schönberg and Berg. Nevertheless I find their attitude with the String Quartet strikingly similar.
Tishchenko was Shostakovich's favourite student. And Shostakovich was introduced to the piano works of Krenek by Yudina. Krenek's Piano Concerto in F minor made a "great impression" on the russian genius. Perhaps that is the link you are looking for.
Is that "Entartete Musik" ?
Asking this question is probably knowing the answer.
The question could also mean "was it considered by some as Entartete Musik at a given time"?
why is this "great" music?
why isn't it?
Haotian Yu is basically saying that she or he really likes it. "Great" isn't a very helpful word. It hides what the person saying it really thinks about the object. Often, the person saying it doesn't exactly know, or can't really articulate what it is they like about the work.
I enjoy this piece very much--i like the melodies and the sonorities. I wish it was, perhaps, a little wilder, but it's nice. I'll keep listening.
why is anything called great music? Your question needs focus.
Mr. Blow, show some spine and say what makes any piece of music great. Use any piece of music you like. From Michael Jackson to Beethoven, from Gershwin to Scarlatti, Zeppelin to Taylor Swift, Beastie Boys to NWA. Thats what i thought.
It's not. Fanboys think everything is great.
Rubbish music.
And this is maybe his best quartet! 8 D