It "spits black smoke" because you have the wick set too high. This will cause blackening of the glass. If correctly adjusted, the lantern should not emit any visible/black smoke.
Almost died once in Micronesia when my hosts left a low lit kerosene hurricane lap running in my 8x8 thatched room. They thought I was scared of the dark. I learned the hard way that venting is important. Wow, what a headache in the morning due to lack of oxygen, but I was thankful I woke up.
The foil used to cover the holes cuts down the draft. The lantern you used is known as cold draft design which is what the 2 tubes on either side. The holes draw in air. Get yourself 2 jupiter lanterns. They hold over half gallon fuel and will easily heat that little tent....add essential oil to eliminate the smell.
I am thinking it will actually warm pretty good, like 25-30 °C I visited a girl living in a tin cabin, not insulated, she had a woodstove, but she also lit a bunch of candles for light and heat, and in the dead of winter, I found it so uncomfortably hot that I had to strip down to my boxers just to stop from sweating! Also I think that could have been why she lit the candles lol, but it did make a noticeable difference!
My guess is 18.5 celcius. I used the same lantern in my tarp tent last night. I didn't use a pipe because I had an opening in the front and plenty of air circulation underneath and still noticed about an 8 degree difference.
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Kind of validates the work too. Notorius at last?!? Thumbnails now, then it's your toenails...Cheers for the reviews, very helpful.
I bought a lantern for this very purpose...My thinking was to say a half hour before turning in ...fire it up, to take the cold out of the tent, and again fire it up in the morning
We used tea lights inside our tent ( very dangerous but all we had) and that would generally raise it about ten degrees until it got under -5 to -10...depending on wind....
you could make an adaptor out of your bean cans or flexible heater pipe Also you can use the higher quality indoor oil Also you could have put a CO detector in there too
Try the experiment with "Klean Heat." It was very hard to find, but I lucked out at Tractor Supply. Add a baffle that can help reflect the heat down. That liquid paraffin might coat your chimney creating another hazard.
If priperly used there wont be any buildup, if you have the wick as high as he does where it pushes out sooty smoke then yes you can have that issue but never to the point of being a fire hazzard
Interesting experiment, I guessed maybe a 3 or 4 degree difference. I remember using a Coleman lantern in my friend's ice shanty when we were ice fishing. I can't remember if it was a propane or white gas lantern. It was a good size shanty, it fit 3 adults. It got really toasty in there and we had to take our jackets off. I have a Little Buddy heater. Wish they could come up with a mini one that you could fit in a backpack and not take up a lot of room.
i've had my oil lamp out over the weekend in my hammock and tarpaulin setup and it kept me warm and i had 8 to 10 inches gap from ground to tarp yes i could smell the oil burning but I slept alright nice and warm👍
@@Lonewolfwildcampingwouldnt be any smell if you used it properly you have the wick way too tall while burning youre supposed to lower it until the smoke stops (bigger flame doesnt produce more heat just makes soot and stink)
I have the iron wall tent and I use my Dietz #80 in my tent using it in deer camp and to get the chill off as I go to bed and when I get up in the morning. Along with just various things I may be doing in the tent. Using the oil with bug juice to chase them off when the georgia bugs are hitting hard.
Hi, forgot to mention I use a few uco candle lanterns in my tent during winter and10 hour clean burn deep night lite candles and it gets pretty hot when I use 5 of these to cook onwith a triopd in my tent. Like your videos, thanks from Martha on my hill in cornwall UK.
Nice experiment! I've heated up tents nicely with propane and gas lanterns but it's not safe without proper ventilation so I turn them off when I go to bed.
@@Lonewolfwildcamping We used those lanterns in the army in the tents. (pig tail coil that rested on the center pole), however, a by product was "tent eye". red and itchy eyes the next day. Usually, from lack of ventilation.
Suggestions burn a Tilly lantern or Coleman lantern inside a wood burning stove. Reasons for doing it, clean air plus if you don't want to show smoke it would be a stealthy way of heating. Plus kerosene lamps can flare up. I was thinking of trying it in a flat or camper van.
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Seems like it would be great where there is just a little chill in the air and you want to keep your tent lit But pack a little lighter. Great experiment thanks for taking the time to do it
some gas lanterns burn at 1g per hour. meaning it would be feasible to heat up a winter tarp (with doors) for a hammock setup with one of these. That's pretty cool if you ask me.
Can't you look at temps on your phone. So you didn't have to lose any when opening the tent? And would a floor in tent help? So no cooling coming from floor?
@@Lonewolfwildcamping I wonder if instead of having the pipe go straight up you could put an elbow on it so that there is more pipe in the tent to collect and radiate heat...not sure I explained that very well but hopefully you get the gist of what I am saying
Not outta work to watch this yet. But this is what I’ve been doing with the uco candlelier. At least in moderate temps it seems to keep a baseline. ...moderate temps. Atleast until my t1 arrives this weekend.
As odd as this sounds I’ve been thinking of how to heat my van as a diesel heater blasts me out on low , I just want something to assist in balancing the temp I will keep you posted I just thought of what you did a week ago but was a scared but now I’m not fresh air in exhaust out
Try removing the d ring top part and then adding the exaust to that ..Just leave the holes open below the cold air tubs on lthe latern open ... And adjust the flame so no soot is produced better heat and less stink and more heat ...I made mine out of a ammo can but i use 3 wicks for it to heat 576 sqft .Cheap to run too ...
How about putting aluminum 1/2 way around lamp like a heat reflector and send it mainly towards yourself; my dad did this when night fishing so light did not go into our eyes and we could still see the water and the fish when caught [aluminum does not touch lamp you make it stand by itself by folding like a V or U]
My hypothesis is most of the heat generated will leave the tent thru the pipe so you might get a little heat but I dont think it'll be a big difference. A second thought is you might be suffocating the fire... the holes covered by the pipe is both intake and exhaust and the holes you are gonna cover with aluminum foil is intake not exhaust. EDIT1: I thinking no more than 5 degree Fahrenheit ... which is something like 2.5 degrees Celsius. EDIT2: Whoa, that's quite a difference. An oil lamp would be simpler to modify and you can pretty much exhaust 100% with no effort... safety/fragility might be an issue compared to an oil lantern though.
I'm late to this experiment, but I wonder if an open metal hood (upside down funnel) just above the lantern would allow enough draft up the stack. A large metal coffee or bean can adapted to the stack might do the trick. You could use a tin can on the very top to stop weather, rain, etc. from coming down the stack. Even a real metal funnel cut to fit could be a perfect field expedient solution for a draft hood. High temp tape used in HVAC might also help. Any temp above hypothermia works for me.😂
That was a really great idea. Now the question is how much heat is actually put out by the glass lamp & how much by the pipe? Do it again & use a thermal scanner on a piece of aluminum put next to each piece. My guess is that the pipe radiates a minimal amount by comparison so I'd start looking around for the largest lantern I could find. The genius of using the stove pipe is that it not only reduces the fumes significantly but also redirects the soot those things produce when you have the flame on high. One other idea.... Could you add some scented oil to the paraffin to make whatever smell does escape smell better? I'd add a pine or cedar scent to it if possible.
i'd say around 20c, so 4c increase. Edit: Wow, better than expected. This is a really cool idea tho. I've seen other videos of people trying to use alternative methods of heat lately and theres some pretty interesting concepts. One person was using a piece of copper pipe that's placed directly in their fire and runs into the tent. I'm not sure if it's working like a boiler system or if its just radiating heat from the pipe, but it seems to be another simple method that works.
I use the following product in my lanterns since I find it more pleasant inside the house when power goes off during winter (I heat with pellet stove and it needs electricity for auger feed and blowing fan for hot air). The product is as follows: Hôme Lamp oil Paraffin based Bight burning, odourless and smokeless.
I primarily heated with a pellet stove for several winters and it can be done. A back up generator is a good idea and needed if the electricity goes out. The hard part is dealing with the 40 pound bags every day, but they do make good re-purposed trash bags.
Good idea.A slidable collar round vents & fold out triangle attached to lantern with peg out points/square based lantern ?.Mmm,be surprised if someone like Onetigris not taking note.Sending a Howl out 2u from UK.🐺
Loved this! Do you plan on putting bit to a real world test? Cold snowy overnighter perhaps? If you do...besides the mods you already proposed I would suggest a reflector and/or a stone enclosure to reflect and radiate the heat. Great job man. Really enjoyed this episode!
Since heat rises it should be warmer around the top of the tent verses the floor. 5 around the ground 10 higher up. How about using synthetic kerosene? I’ve heard it burns cleaner and hotter. That what a friend of mine uses and swears by it.
SO... why not use candle lanterns? Like the UCO Candelier, they work with a larger family tent without pipe already. Yes it’s wide, but it is usable to boil water so basic cooking as well.
Many people like the lantern over a candle, and the lantern is a closed flame that can be used outdoors with out being affected by wind. I mean really why not just use a wood stove 🤷♂️😁
@@Lonewolfwildcamping The UCO Candelier has 3 candles (so heat and light can be regulated) and its an enclosed flame which can be used outdoors. It's also way lighter and compacter than a stove. But then again I wish I had a stove.
I would guess a temp increase of 15 to 20 degrees anywhere above say...15 degrees F without a stiff wind....snow pack will make a big difference as well....I'm halfway through so I don't know if my estimate holds, but it's based on experience living outdoors in the Alaskan winter....literally....we had a 15 degree difference inside a tarped enclosure around our tent and kitchen with a roaring fire, out of the wind....until it went under -5 F....
Hi Lone: Interesting experiment For years I've used the 3 candle UCO lantern Before I go to sleep & light again upon waking .I think 16C or 61F . does not eat up calories like 5C . I would like to see this experiment again at a lower temperature. Stay Safe & Thanks Brian 80
i've used my dietz no.8 since 2012-ish and it'll keep my polish lavvu somewhere around 18-25C depending on flame size, but my dietz 2500 jupiter will bring it up to an insane 32C and higher depending on flame size, the jupiter is a bit overkill for what i do but they make another one called the 2000 that actually has a flat top for cooking with pans on using regular lamp oil has never given me issues and i never had to vent it with pipe or anything (probably because of the armholes and lack of skirts), there's some smoke at the start but it goes away quickly and the draft from under the lavvu carries away the smell and any risk of fumes, never had a monoxide alarm go off yet
Looking at the globes on your lanterns i can tell you dont use them properly with the wick priperly trimmed and lowered til you dont see smoke after lightijg and youll never see soot and wont need a pipe above it just hang the thing lamp oil is a very clean fuel
If you're going to adapt the lantern why not include a heat sink like a metal canteen at the top. That way it's radiate heat more effectively. This looks like a great solution for Southern winter camping.
You should have a vent at the bottom of the tent to vent Carbon Monoxide and you should sleep on at least a slightly elevated sleeping platform. Carbon Monoxide seeks the lowest level...you don't want to be at floor level....for many reasons....
If you had a 90° elbow inside the tent and exit out the side it would be much more effective at capturing all that heat you saw coming out of that 6ft pipe and keeping it inside the tent 👍
I've been wanting to pick up a hot tent for a while, since during the warmer months fires are banned. But I was quite disappointed when seeing the $500 to over $1500 price tags on hot tents. Am I looking in the wrong places, or are these things really that expensive?
I would suggest next time to put the thermometer on the level where your body will be in the tent, and to put some type of carbon monoxide detector at the same level 🙂 The test is very interesting, and for me is interesting how the shape of the tent (dome, tunnel, pyramid) affects on the temperature at the level where the body will be in the tent. Sorry but my english is not very good 🙂
It "spits black smoke" because you have the wick set too high. This will cause blackening of the glass. If correctly adjusted, the lantern should not emit any visible/black smoke.
Sad how many dont know how to properly use a kerosene lantern
Almost died once in Micronesia when my hosts left a low lit kerosene hurricane lap running in my 8x8 thatched room. They thought I was scared of the dark. I learned the hard way that venting is important. Wow, what a headache in the morning due to lack of oxygen, but I was thankful I woke up.
It is very important to ventilate
@@Lonewolfwildcampingif you ventilate the heat will loose
The foil used to cover the holes cuts down the draft. The lantern you used is known as cold draft design which is what the 2 tubes on either side. The holes draw in air. Get yourself 2 jupiter lanterns. They hold over half gallon fuel and will easily heat that little tent....add essential oil to eliminate the smell.
Jupiters were designed for greenhouse heating so this idea definitely works
The air holes you covered are for t intake air that travels down the side tubes to heat the fuel for a cleaner burning flame.
ONLY Hot Blast Lantern Burners Do That; This Is Cold Blast To Bring In Fresh/Cooler Air For More Efficient Burning...With Less Smoke.
@@jerrycallaio5130nope any lantern with that design uses those holes as an intake so yes hes right
I am thinking it will actually warm pretty good, like 25-30 °C I visited a girl living in a tin cabin, not insulated, she had a woodstove, but she also lit a bunch of candles for light and heat, and in the dead of winter, I found it so uncomfortably hot that I had to strip down to my boxers just to stop from sweating! Also I think that could have been why she lit the candles lol, but it did make a noticeable difference!
Does she still live there?
My guess is 18.5 celcius. I used the same lantern in my tarp tent last night. I didn't use a pipe because I had an opening in the front and plenty of air circulation underneath and still noticed about an 8 degree difference.
lol im glad someone else also thought of this and i'm glad it works
I love hurricane lanterns. This is great, thanks!
Cool idea! I turned my stove jack black today.
Awsome 😀
That lantern and a msr whisperlite with K nozzle... One fuel for two...nice camp...
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Great experiment keep up the great work for the outdoor guys and gals!! Thanks!!
Thanks so much
I'm seeing a noticable use of your content as thumnails/photo examples in online shops, particularly the hot tents.
Pretty awsome right? 😀👍
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Kind of validates the work too. Notorius at last?!? Thumbnails now, then it's your toenails...Cheers for the reviews, very helpful.
Its all taken care of . Thank you
I had guessed 20... pretty neat little experiment. Great option for shoulder season
A fun experiment
Reminds me of the stories of Inuit hunters, igloos and oil lamps or candles, that we were told when I was a child... or did I read that somewhere?
Yes, lanterns were a great source of heat
Absolutely wonderful experiment... I would remove the chimney lid, to properly fit that exhaust pipe... Thanks for the amazing idea....
Thanks, if I decide to make it permanent I'll do some modifications
I also agree.
Yeah it's very cool and funny experience great idea !!! Continue more experiences and videos, thanks Wolf !!!
Thank you
I bought a lantern for this very purpose...My thinking was to say a half hour before turning in ...fire it up, to take the cold out of the tent, and again fire it up in the morning
We used tea lights inside our tent ( very dangerous but all we had) and that would generally raise it about ten degrees until it got under -5 to -10...depending on wind....
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Amazing content. Love and blessings from Israel
Thank you very much
you could make an adaptor out of your bean cans or flexible heater pipe
Also you can use the higher quality indoor oil
Also you could have put a CO detector in there too
Great suggestion
Try the experiment with "Klean Heat." It was very hard to find, but I lucked out at Tractor Supply. Add a baffle that can help reflect the heat down. That liquid paraffin might coat your chimney creating another hazard.
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I ckean it after each use but realistically titanium pipe doesn't need much maintenance
If priperly used there wont be any buildup, if you have the wick as high as he does where it pushes out sooty smoke then yes you can have that issue but never to the point of being a fire hazzard
Interesting experiment, I guessed maybe a 3 or 4 degree difference. I remember using a Coleman lantern in my friend's ice shanty when we were ice fishing. I can't remember if it was a propane or white gas lantern. It was a good size shanty, it fit 3 adults. It got really toasty in there and we had to take our jackets off. I have a Little Buddy heater. Wish they could come up with a mini one that you could fit in a backpack and not take up a lot of room.
I've used the buddy heaters before i got my wood stoves and they worked great, but the smell was the downfall and the moisture too
i've had my oil lamp out over the weekend in my hammock and tarpaulin setup and it kept me warm and i had 8 to 10 inches gap from ground to tarp yes i could smell the oil burning but I slept alright nice and warm👍
A great way to stay cozy. The smell is the only bad part
@@Lonewolfwildcampingwouldnt be any smell if you used it properly you have the wick way too tall while burning youre supposed to lower it until the smoke stops (bigger flame doesnt produce more heat just makes soot and stink)
Get a piece of exhaust pipe cut to fit over the top and down the sides to cover the entire top. Slots to go to the ridge above the holes.
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Good experiment Jeremy!
I don't live in an area where I would need a hot tent, but interesting results!
Definitely useful in the winter
@@Lonewolfwildcamping
I did use 2 candle lanterns while in the Appalachian mountains during the winter and they worked well
Very useful for cutting through the chill
@@Lonewolfwildcamping
In the southern US, we don't get as cold as you all do in Canada!!
Definitely not, I hate the heat. I much rather freeze in the snow with no bugs before I put on shorts in the sunshine. I love winter 🐺😃👍
I used to use my old Coleman lantern to warm up my tent too!
Awsome 🤙😁
I have the iron wall tent and I use my Dietz #80 in my tent using it in deer camp and to get the chill off as I go to bed and when I get up in the morning. Along with just various things I may be doing in the tent. Using the oil with bug juice to chase them off when the georgia bugs are hitting hard.
That's awsome, glad to hear this
Hi, forgot to mention I use a few uco candle lanterns in my tent during winter and10 hour clean burn deep night lite candles and it gets pretty hot when I use 5 of these to cook onwith a triopd in my tent. Like your videos, thanks from Martha on my hill in cornwall UK.
Excellent
Could you mount a heat fan to the stove pipe? And the heat would blow through the tent or truck topper?
I have a deitz 80 blizzard. We use it indoors and there's no smell. If you see black smoke then the flame is too high
Thank you
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That was a larger increase in heat than I thought it would be. I figured about 5 degree difference.
Definitely more than my guess as well
That was a really neat experiment and definitely needs some more investigation and experimentation.
It was very interesting. I've wanted to test it for a long time
@@Lonewolfwildcamping what model of lanterns are those that you were using?
No clue, cheap ones
Nice experiment! I've heated up tents nicely with propane and gas lanterns but it's not safe without proper ventilation so I turn them off when I go to bed.
Thanks
love your videos man, more videos like this.. fan here from Philippines
Thank you very much
Interesting. Thanks, J. You gave me an idea. 🤔
Thanks, glad I got you thinking
You could build a adapter piece to use the larger lantern.
Absolutely 🤙
Any issues with CO2 levels within from the parafin?
Personally I found no issues while using a chimney, much like a hot tent and wood stove setup
@@Lonewolfwildcamping We used those lanterns in the army in the tents. (pig tail coil that rested on the center pole), however, a by product was "tent eye". red and itchy eyes the next day. Usually, from lack of ventilation.
Thats because you didn't use a chimney 😉👍
Nice video. I wonder if the 3 candle UCO lantern would be able to heat up a tent?
I think it would work well 😃
Suggestions burn a Tilly lantern or Coleman lantern inside a wood burning stove. Reasons for doing it, clean air plus if you don't want to show smoke it would be a stealthy way of heating. Plus kerosene lamps can flare up. I was thinking of trying it in a flat or camper van.
Good idea bro 💯
Thanks man
I wonder too about a titanium stove with wood pellets? Save time on wood collecting and cutting up? Nice experiment, thanks.
It works, I've tried it, but can't justify carrying pellets
Thank you very cool !
Thanks alot 😁
Thanks for testing this out! 😂👍
Thanks for enjoying
What model of hurricane lantern is the red one?Thanks.
I'm not sure
Would be curious to see when it's really cold out if that prevents the heat buildup and make it a nominal gain...
I don't think it would work as well in colder temps
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Seems like it would be great where there is just a little chill in the air and you want to keep your tent lit But pack a little lighter. Great experiment thanks for taking the time to do it
Always worth investigating, 🤙
Thanks for a Great test! :)
Thanks
some gas lanterns burn at 1g per hour. meaning it would be feasible to heat up a winter tarp (with doors) for a hammock setup with one of these. That's pretty cool if you ask me.
Great innovative ideal.
Thank you
@@Lonewolfwildcamping Your very welcome.
1:05 parrafin ... elia? :-P Sup man? Good experiment.
Thanks, and yes, liquid parrafin lantern oil
Can't you look at temps on your phone. So you didn't have to lose any when opening the tent? And would a floor in tent help? So no cooling coming from floor?
My prediction is a solid 10f.
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Wonder how much heat was lost through the pipe
Quiet alot I assume
@@Lonewolfwildcamping I wonder if instead of having the pipe go straight up you could put an elbow on it so that there is more pipe in the tent to collect and radiate heat...not sure I explained that very well but hopefully you get the gist of what I am saying
Good suggestion
GOD BLESS YOU
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Interesting experiment. I had guessed 18 to 19 degrees
Possible with a larger lantern i think
@@Lonewolfwildcamping no not 18 degrees higher. I meant from 16 celcius to 18 or 19 Celsius
Ok
Sounds like the making of a new product
Titanium made lanterns would work perfect.
18 Celsius, wow cool very interesting Thankyou for sharing
Thank you
Any update since this video?
You could try a small 5v fan inside the tube also
I was half expecting 26c, maybe with the bigger lamp. carbon monoxide?
Bigger lamp for sure, there is too much air circulation too worry about the build up
Not outta work to watch this yet. But this is what I’ve been doing with the uco candlelier. At least in moderate temps it seems to keep a baseline. ...moderate temps. Atleast until my t1 arrives this weekend.
Definitely a good option
I thought it would have went up 2 degrees that's pretty good. wondering if it was colder if it would work as well.
I'm not hopeful for colder temps
As odd as this sounds I’ve been thinking of how to heat my van as a diesel heater blasts me out on low , I just want something to assist in balancing the temp I will keep you posted I just thought of what you did a week ago but was a scared but now I’m not fresh air in exhaust out
I have a sad iorn stove I was going to try this in my hot tent this year
Try removing the d ring top part and then adding the exaust to that ..Just leave the holes open below the cold air tubs on lthe latern open ... And adjust the flame so no soot is produced better heat and less stink and more heat ...I made mine out of a ammo can but i use 3 wicks for it to heat 576 sqft .Cheap to run too ...
How about putting aluminum 1/2 way around lamp like a heat reflector and send it mainly towards yourself; my dad did this when night fishing so light did not go into our eyes and we could still see the water and the fish when caught [aluminum does not touch lamp you make it stand by itself by folding like a V or U]
Could help a bit
Would be interesting to put a carbon dioxide monitor in the tent to see if that is an issue?
I have in many tents over the years with many different monitors and none of them will sound the alarm
Lonewolf 902
Good to know - thanks.
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It's carbon monoxide you need to worry about.
Not worried
My hypothesis is most of the heat generated will leave the tent thru the pipe so you might get a little heat but I dont think it'll be a big difference. A second thought is you might be suffocating the fire... the holes covered by the pipe is both intake and exhaust and the holes you are gonna cover with aluminum foil is intake not exhaust.
EDIT1: I thinking no more than 5 degree Fahrenheit ... which is something like 2.5 degrees Celsius.
EDIT2: Whoa, that's quite a difference. An oil lamp would be simpler to modify and you can pretty much exhaust 100% with no effort... safety/fragility might be an issue compared to an oil lantern though.
How about using a Coleman pressure lantern?
Would work too
I'm late to this experiment, but I wonder if an open metal hood (upside down funnel) just above the lantern would allow enough draft up the stack. A large metal coffee or bean can adapted to the stack might do the trick. You could use a tin can on the very top to stop weather, rain, etc. from coming down the stack.
Even a real metal funnel cut to fit could be a perfect field expedient solution for a draft hood. High temp tape used in HVAC might also help.
Any temp above hypothermia works for me.😂
Excellent suggestion
That was a really great idea. Now the question is how much heat is actually put out by the glass lamp & how much by the pipe? Do it again & use a thermal scanner on a piece of aluminum put next to each piece. My guess is that the pipe radiates a minimal amount by comparison so I'd start looking around for the largest lantern I could find. The genius of using the stove pipe is that it not only reduces the fumes significantly but also redirects the soot those things produce when you have the flame on high. One other idea.... Could you add some scented oil to the paraffin to make whatever smell does escape smell better? I'd add a pine or cedar scent to it if possible.
The titanium dissipates heat rather quickly, a steel pipe would radiate more heat
Cool experiment 🤠
Thanks
i'd say around 20c, so 4c increase.
Edit: Wow, better than expected. This is a really cool idea tho. I've seen other videos of people trying to use alternative methods of heat lately and theres some pretty interesting concepts. One person was using a piece of copper pipe that's placed directly in their fire and runs into the tent. I'm not sure if it's working like a boiler system or if its just radiating heat from the pipe, but it seems to be another simple method that works.
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I use the following product in my lanterns since I find it more pleasant inside the house when power goes off during winter (I heat with pellet stove and it needs electricity for auger feed and blowing fan for hot air).
The product is as follows:
Hôme
Lamp oil
Paraffin based
Bight burning, odourless and smokeless.
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I primarily heated with a pellet stove for several winters and it can be done. A back up generator is a good idea and needed if the electricity goes out.
The hard part is dealing with the 40 pound bags every day, but they do make good re-purposed trash bags.
Pellet stoves should have TEGs built into them so the blower and auger are powered whenever the stove is hot.
Deitz has one for cooking that has a removable hat I think it's the 2000 millennium lantern/cooker
Pretty awsome
@@Lonewolfwildcamping I've had it in my cart for months. Probably going to have to get it and try this out!!
Hell yeah 🤙
Good idea.A slidable collar round vents & fold out triangle attached to lantern with peg out points/square based lantern ?.Mmm,be surprised if someone like Onetigris not taking note.Sending a Howl out 2u from UK.🐺
Thanks alot, definitely a fun experiment
Great video as always!! I was curious the brand of lantern you use? The ones on Amazon didn’t get good reviews.
Thank you, im not sure of brand its just a really cheap lantern but it works well
@@Lonewolfwildcamping ok thanks
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i wonder if soy oil is a healthy fuel alternative. maybe you wouldn't need to directly vent the lamp then.
I'm not sure
Loved this! Do you plan on putting bit to a real world test? Cold snowy overnighter perhaps? If you do...besides the mods you already proposed I would suggest a reflector and/or a stone enclosure to reflect and radiate the heat. Great job man. Really enjoyed this episode!
I might test it but not too sure
@@Lonewolfwildcamping it's winter now! 😄
NICE 👍💖
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I guessed 23! Love watching your videos, can you try with propane lantern?
Thanks, I may try it
I use Firefly fuel in my lantern. it's plant based and has no odor or smoke. my lantern raises the temp in my cabin by at least 8-10 degrees.
Very interesting
Since heat rises it should be warmer around the top of the tent verses the floor. 5 around the ground 10 higher up. How about using synthetic kerosene? I’ve heard it burns cleaner and hotter. That what a friend of mine uses and swears by it.
That is correct
SO... why not use candle lanterns? Like the UCO Candelier, they work with a larger family tent without pipe already. Yes it’s wide, but it is usable to boil water so basic cooking as well.
Many people like the lantern over a candle, and the lantern is a closed flame that can be used outdoors with out being affected by wind. I mean really why not just use a wood stove 🤷♂️😁
@@Lonewolfwildcamping The UCO Candelier has 3 candles (so heat and light can be regulated) and its an enclosed flame which can be used outdoors. It's also way lighter and compacter than a stove. But then again I wish I had a stove.
I'm familiar with the lantern, but alot of bushcraft campers love the oil lantern
Haha, now with this video you easily made it to level 2 MacGyver hot tenting 😂🙂👍🍻🍻
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Could you test this in colder conditions ?
I will if the time permits, I have so many projects underway currently
I would guess a temp increase of 15 to 20 degrees anywhere above say...15 degrees F without a stiff wind....snow pack will make a big difference as well....I'm halfway through so I don't know if my estimate holds, but it's based on experience living outdoors in the Alaskan winter....literally....we had a 15 degree difference inside a tarped enclosure around our tent and kitchen with a roaring fire, out of the wind....until it went under -5 F....
Hi Lone: Interesting experiment For years I've used the 3 candle UCO lantern Before I go to sleep & light again upon waking .I think 16C or 61F . does not eat up calories like 5C . I would like to see this experiment again at a lower temperature. Stay Safe & Thanks Brian 80
Thank you, I agree with you. Definitely worth another shot in colder temps
@@donolinger6904 Hi Don 5C refers to5 degrees Celsius Which equates to about 41 degrees Farenhight.
i've used my dietz no.8 since 2012-ish and it'll keep my polish lavvu somewhere around 18-25C depending on flame size, but my dietz 2500 jupiter will bring it up to an insane 32C and higher depending on flame size, the jupiter is a bit overkill for what i do but they make another one called the 2000 that actually has a flat top for cooking with pans on
using regular lamp oil has never given me issues and i never had to vent it with pipe or anything (probably because of the armholes and lack of skirts), there's some smoke at the start but it goes away quickly and the draft from under the lavvu carries away the smell and any risk of fumes, never had a monoxide alarm go off yet
Awsome, I agree about the monoxide alarm, hard to get to go off
congratulations on your work which lens do you use for the camera?
Thank you so much. 50mmf1.2
You don't need a chimney with these lanterns if it smokes the wick is to high
Looking at the globes on your lanterns i can tell you dont use them properly with the wick priperly trimmed and lowered til you dont see smoke after lightijg and youll never see soot and wont need a pipe above it just hang the thing lamp oil is a very clean fuel
If you're going to adapt the lantern why not include a heat sink like a metal canteen at the top. That way it's radiate heat more effectively. This looks like a great solution for Southern winter camping.
Thats also another good option
You should have a vent at the bottom of the tent to vent Carbon Monoxide and you should sleep on at least a slightly elevated sleeping platform. Carbon Monoxide seeks the lowest level...you don't want to be at floor level....for many reasons....
There is no floor and the fabric is not air tight
If you had a 90° elbow inside the tent and exit out the side it would be much more effective at capturing all that heat you saw coming out of that 6ft pipe and keeping it inside the tent 👍
It could be possible 👍
Nice video my friend
Thanks alot
I've been wanting to pick up a hot tent for a while, since during the warmer months fires are banned. But I was quite disappointed when seeing the $500 to over $1500 price tags on hot tents. Am I looking in the wrong places, or are these things really that expensive?
Hot tenting is not cheap. Veru expensive but well worth it
I would suggest next time to put the thermometer on the level where your body will be in the tent, and to put some type of carbon monoxide detector at the same level 🙂
The test is very interesting, and for me is interesting how the shape of the tent (dome, tunnel, pyramid) affects on the temperature at the level where the body will be in the tent. Sorry but my english is not very good 🙂
Your English is fine. We'll stop ya when we don't get ya, and we'll ask.
I thought it won't work but it did a good job
I was surprised how well it did
I have always been told that one single candle will keep a self dug snow cave at about 32*F/0*C
Excellent information
I was guessing maybe 10 -15 degrees
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16c is warm weather try this at 5c
Will be doing more testing
@@Lonewolfwildcamping cool I like to see that and I love the video very interesting