Setting Up the Ubiquiti Network at the New House
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- We're getting the Ubiquiti network set up again at the new house. Unless you like networking, this is probably going to be pretty boring for you, but I just had to share it with those who are interested. Anyways, we'll probably be changing the network to the NetGear Orbis Pro system here in the near future.
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As someone who's been in IT for 16 years this is hard to watch...
Why? What did they do wrong?
For me it was listening to the guy talk. It was clear he didn't know all much about the gear.
That Def explains it, it makes a lot more sense now.
cringe AF
not sure if you guys gives a shit but if you are bored like me atm then you can watch pretty much all of the new series on instaflixxer. Been binge watching with my gf lately =)
With how detailed you are with building and organizing your shop, I can't believe there was zero cable management or patch paneling done for your network cabinet, you are better than this matt :)
A 10 space rack with better cable management, patch panel and a better network switch I would suggest
I shed a tear when I seen where it was being installed.
Careful with that green PoE indicator (24v passive PoE). You *can* fry endpoint devices that aren't 24v ready.
Watching people do my job wrong makes me cringe. Now I understand Matt’s complaints about detailing.
Quit your job and build a business selling me the right stuff.
@@ObsessedGarage The equipment is fine. I sell that stuff too.
You’re just missing a patch panel and proper cable management and the wifi could have been better placed using a heat map with Ubiquiti Design center. Plus you probably don’t have threat management turned on for your UDM pro cause you’re getting 800mbps and threat management is limited to 250mbps. You also need to disable the 24v setting from your nano beam so you don’t kill a 12v Poe device
@@kyledunton1351 Mostly right, but FYI threat management doesn't limit the UDMP to 250mbps. I think you are confusing it with the older USG.
Also, its not super significant/important unless you have opened something to the WAN. I believe the UDMP is rated to do 3.5gbps with full IPS/IDS enabled.
“Plus is always better, unless it’s plus sized” I lost it lol 😂
“Plus is always better... unless it’s plus size” 😂
Matt, please install a patch panel for your network. No zip ties, build the right length cables and use velcro or silk tie them if needed. I'm getting anxiety with all those home runs... Sweet garage build Hoss!
id just run ethernet to the cameras because you need power to them anyway and on security cameras specifically you wnat to get away from the shitty reliability of wifi :D also you'd think mat would be obsessed enough to have a rack and a patch panel in there :DD
I hope you have your own IT guy. Ubiquity network are NOT set and forget networks. They release monthly firmware’s updates and sometimes it breaks stuff. Just a FYI. I have ubiquity network at home but I’m a network engineer
Best thing Matt has done is creating a great team. Make sure you take care of them.
Hi Matt, If you haven't done so already you may want to make a local admin account and turn off remote access if not needed. Ubiquiti isn't the greatest at keeping that stuff secure. At least turn on twostep if you need remote access.
All of you bros that are going to comment about how much this sucks and how awesome you are, should have bells going off in your head. Stop working for other people and start a scalable business that teaches people like me how to do this. Then sell the product to me, not like Microsoft would. Do it like Apple. If you have the knowledge, don't act like an engineer and start giving us reasons why you can't do it. Get it done, and you will make millions. I would pay for that in a heartbeat, and so would tons of others! By the way, I punted all this Ubiquiti stuff in the trash later that night when it all stopped working for the 50th time. I don't have time, patience, desire, or expertise to be constantly messing with this crap. I just want to pay for a solution. Please!!!
As a Senior Network Engineer for a very large University I will offer one out of 20 suggestions, save your electronics by adding fans to your cabinet if you can, heat is your enemy.
MySpace was the hookup site in those days Matt 😂
man AIM was long before MySpace lol sometimes I had like 10+ AIM chats going at once.
The U symbol on the AC HD pro is sideways
Matt, You need to know that Dream Machine Pro's 8 ports are sharing the 1Gbps backplane which can be a bottleneck. Buy a dedicated switch and connect it to the Dream Machine Pro with SFP+ Port.
For any low voltage wiring, it should be treated just like the 120V wiring inside your house walls. One end should be terminated to a punch down surface mount box (like the electrical outlet in your walls), then to the access point or camera. Or terminated to a punch down wall outlet. The other end, at the equipment, should be terminated to a patch panel with punch down keystone jacks (think circuit breaker panel). Then you use cheap pre-made 6-12" patch cables to connect to cameras, access points, your switch, routers, etc....that way all the actual wiring in the walls is stationary and never moves. Just like home 120V wiring. Do you connect wiring from your electrical panel directly to your pressure washer? Or do you go through an outlet? The 4 twisted pairs are copper and very sensitive to internal breaks the more they are manipulated. Plus the actual ends of the cables are a very common source of failure. SOURCE: I am a homeowner who went through the learning curve after we built our house recently and I used all Ubiquiti equipment (4x Pro access points, 5x Pro cameras, POE switch Cloud Key Plus NVR, Ubiquiti router, 28 wall "outlets", etc...). I wanted everything to be hardwired when able. Got me Network + certification for fun just to learn how to use all the stuff and be comfortable with it, LOL.
Matt do you have a video of the electrician running cat6 wiring? Thanks
The UniFi Dream Machine has been nothing but trouble for me, good luck........
Does third count for anything?
It does now. Congratulations!
You beat Fourth
😆 Thanks!!!
Hope everyone is enjoying the day
Sorry Matt, the IT professional in me is cringing a bit! Ubiquiti is great stuff though...you need to get into their cameras and door access controls!
I freaking hate it. I've had it for about 5 years now, and I'm constantly having to fix crap. I'm done with it!
Get a ups for dream machine pro I have had to factory reset and up load firmware manually 3 times because of power blips. Also takes for ever to come back online if power flashes
I am a bit disappointed that there isn't a rack for these items. That receiver will get pretty hot and that USG is going to be running pretty hot due to that and it sitting on the power conditioner with no air movement. As well, you have no patch panel or labeled terminations, and no redundancy placed when running the lines. It looks like you may even have 48v POE lines running through an unshielded hole in the metal cabinet. Id switch to a Schneider electric APC for conditioning and battery backup to the POE switch, and rack all of that equipment. I am hoping you have keystones and LV plates behind that TV and not just patch cables run through the wall dangling out. This is very non obsessed garage, I hate to say it.
Get an APC mini-rack up on that wall above the cabinet, and mount from there a rack mount UPS, switch, shelf the Apple TV and micro unifi switch, and rack that dream machine. Put it all behind some frosted glass for a good finished look with no wires hanging out. Grab a keystone patch panel and punch down those lines, label the drops and color code the patch lines for their purpose.
What do you use as a file server? Do you have network locations for your media content and storage or is it all just on external hard drives? Any backups setup for your systems and devices?
I very much agree, with having a very small 8 Port switch. With having to SFP plus ports, Is a very small switch At the very minimum I would recommend getting a 16 Port Poe switch. They are putting a lot of load on that small switch.
Using UniFi at home translates into a part-time network admin job.
Did I hear that Mike Figueira is joining the OG team or is Matt still trying to convince him? That would be a game changer.
money2536 is Matt’s new alias.
Both the UDM Pro and the switch have SFP+ ports on them, which supports 10 Gig vs just 1 Gig with an ethernet cable. You should get a copper SFP+ cable for your uplink between those two devices so that you've got more bandwidth.
The switch is only 1g SFP and not 10g SFP+
@@jgelliot ahhhhh, good catch! At least the UDM Pro supports 10 Gig. Still, the SFP ports aren't being used, that would free up 2 ethernet ports for other devices.
"I guess a bunch of old people live here."
The network engineer in me is like NONONONO. Now I know how Matt feels when he sees a train wreck in car detailing. I know it's just a simple home network but I can't help it. Since you will be doing work from home and have a lot of sensitive data you should really use a decent firewall with UTM protection. You set it up once (and do a thorough job) and then you can basically let it do its thing. Ubiquiti's threat management is a total joke.
Thanks for sharing!
We need a solution for this! I hate this crap. I just want to buy stuff on the internet, not mess with it all the time.
I think its unfair to call it a total joke. Like anything, its got its weaknesses. But, the IPS/IDS is a lite implementation of Surricata which is highly respected. The VLAN and Firewall rulesets are pretty standard fare.
@@jgelliot You do realize they are using outdated Suricata definitions/code for their threat identification????????? You do realize it's not even doing much more than alerting to a possible issue......Yes, it's horrible as far as ACTUAL protection.
At 6:05 yes old people still want phone jacks
11:35 you won't be disappointed
man, can't believe y'all didn't have a 500-foot spool of CAT6, a bag of hundreds of RJ-45 connectors and some $300+ OG-spec RJ-45 crimpers so you could make all custom patch cables on demand as needed.
What's up little network bros?
Gotta hit the AP with the drycce machine bros
Most terminated network cables are never a clean install. Its messy always best to put a patch panel and use the right length of patch cables. Also you can use colour coded patch cables for instance to identify wan, uplink between switch and udm. Also putting rj45 connectors on solid wire cable never holds up even with strain reliefs overtime. Also use a proper wire labeller like a Brady BMP21plus with the tough nylon labels that don’t come off.
Matt’s router password be like zebra cakes or legit or GT three RS......🤔
@Bryce I am on comcast in Atlanta and I consistently get 10-15ms latency with 250-300mbps down and 35-40mbps up over my TP-Link wifi mesh with my 2015 MacBook Pro. It really depends on your location. It also helps being in an urban area over stretched suburban areas.
Matt, have you seen the Big Ass Haiku fans? I have 3 for sale (selling my house) if you or anyone you know is interested in bad ass high quality smart fans.
Hi Matt, saving up some money to buy a pressure washer. But can’t decide if the AR 630 is the better option or the kranzle. Help
We see what’s in your house and we’re thinking “Risky Business”. Joel at the lake with Lana and the Porsche and you return to a cleaned out house. LOL
12:48 nothing has me laughing more than Matt referring to Ryan, his own flesh-and-blood son, as a “dirtball kid”
If this network set up was a pressure washer, it would be the Kärcher.
was planning to go ubiquiti as well but our home network guy recommended luxul instead. humbling to realize just how little i knew about home networking
Matt this is obsessed garage. Where is the 19 inch mini rack for better cooling by having space between equipment. Also ubiquiti makes a killer ups so nothing goes down during power outages. Also using 10gb uplink between the dream machine and the switch. The switch should have been poe+ or better yet poe++ as next gen wifi6 (802.11ax) enhanced is coming and the ap’s are power hungry.
The switch only has SFP, not SFP+. It’s only 1G. It’ll save him an Ethernet port, but it’s not going to be any faster.
You should aggregate 2 ports from the UDM to the 8 port switch. That will allow your wireless AP to reach its full potential while also serving the wired clients in the 8 port switch with a second gigabit of throughtput available.
All of the udm-pro ports Are shared Controller Which means you cannot use Link aggregation on the UDM Pro’s ports. So the udm-pro would only be capable of having 1 gigabit through all of the ports. On the udm-pro.
about to purchase my dream machine pro! perfect timing. I currently use 4 AC pros. waiting for the new unifi 6 AP to add another 3 APs to my network. The AC Pros are outdoor rated too so you can put one in your back yard.
I would love to have more things wired in my house, TVs, computers, etc. But mesh networks have helped a lot.
Take it back that’s Matt’s password cast iron skilletz 😂
I wish I understood anything Bryce just did.
No rack and patch panel? Matt I’m saddened.
Anyone know what desk that is in Ryan's room?!? I want it.
What brand of wifi Access Points did you use mounted on ceiling and wall
It is the UAP AC Pros I Think
Matt hanging out with the boys is hilarious! 😂
cant imagine how much fun this episode was to film...
I agree with one of the earlier posts....patch panel Matt!
Need more videos like this Matt. luv it
Matt ASL funny I did the same thing
Ha, great timing, I just purchased a house and the UDM Pro and plan on setting it up today.
LOL - Me too!!! I'm installing mu UDM Pro, G4 Doorbell & 2 AC lites.
What happened to the meraki firewall?
Tone it!!!
I know Ubiquity is cool for being able to segment networks. But overall, I hated it and returned it all within 2 weeks. Why? Slow.... Super slow.... My Netgear router got 300 mbps faster down on wifi than the ubiquity gear stuff that cost more. Overall, I'd rather have a flat network than a slow one.
I set up 2 of the AP's in my office about 4-5 years ago, running off our Dell network switch. Wifi speeds are super fast, almost as fast as wired. And super reliable. I've had to reset the AP's exactly one time in the time they've been installed. They just work, 99.99% of the time.
@@Patrick94GSR define fast? I get 500 to 700 mbps with netgear orbi’s flowing through a 16 port gigabit switch.
@@davidc9710 our Crapcast service coming into the building unfortunately isn't that fast. But like I said, wifi speeds as shown on my phone are almost as fast as wired speed out to the internet through our gigabit LAN.
@@Patrick94GSR as long as it meets your needs.
@@davidc9710 What type of system did you have, Did you go for fast Wi-Fi 6 or AC? Because you can experience very different performance between the two.
Dude Bryce is too young to know AOL LOL
Nerds like to recommend Ubiquiti to people but at the end of the day their stuff is both a management headache and super janky. Many tech-minded engineers I know that all got Ubiquiti systems a few years ago when they got popular have given them up. I’m in the process of moving to a new house and plan to follow suit. I’ll be throwing my substantial Ubiquiti system in the trash and doing Eero with wired backhauls to every AP in the new place.
There are more robust solutions out there, but the user friendliness of unifi/ubiquiti gear stands out (or has done historically). Unifi makes advanced feature sets which are often times reserved for enterprise grade hardware more attainable to the average joe.
Also, the pricing model (no ongoing fees) is attractive to many.
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Patch panel and rack why? Matt can tidy that up and close the cabinet, simple as that.
second
Bill Gates wants this house 😉
Now time to setup actual firewall rules and vlans. Good networking is like dental hygiene, it's annoying but not a good idea to do a half way job.
You don't need either of these things for a secure, properly functioning home network.
@@kazm4g You don't need to brush your teeth either, the effects won't be super obvious at first...
Additionally, there is little other reason to purchase the UDMP if you don't plan to utilize it's inter vlan routing and vpn functionality.
If you care about security and plan to allow guests and IOT devices on the network (which he has) it's foolhardy not to implement proper network security.
Lastly, this is the "obsessed" garage YT channel, not the "ok, it functions" channel. It's like buying a Porsche GT3 and filling it with regular 87 octane - it works but...
Sell me a solution, and I'll buy it.
@@ObsessedGarage You have the hardware components already -- unless you want to get really fancy. I would be happy to consult if you're serious. But there are some hurdles to consider before doing that.
IMO, you could do a mutually beneficial collaboration with one of the larger tech YT channels if they were open to it (Level1tech, Crosstalk Solutions, or Lawrence Systems maybe?). Or maybe shoot bigger and try for LTT lol.
To get you an "obsessed" solution, you would need to provide more detail on your network structure and a better idea if what you would like to accomplish. In my experience, good network design is like a tailored suit, there isn't really a good "one size fits all" solution.
I suspect that a good starting point for you would be setting up three to four VLANS (IOT, GUEST, SECURE, and maybe a camera network). From there, you can provision your AP's with separate SSID's for the wireless devices and define the firewall rules between networks. For example: if you had a smart fridge (don't know if you do) you might not want it snooping on your IMAC or apple tv's. Or another potential example, you don't want guests being able to connect and (potentially) disable the security cameras. Without more detail, the potential examples are nearly limitless.
The UDMP has 10g SFP+ that you could use to setup a fast NAS if you don't already have one. It looks like you have a USB backup drive hooked up to the IMAC? So many cool and nerdy options. The UI EA store has a 2.5g POE switch coming soon that I could see being nice if you setup a NAS.
Also, that UDMP has some cool and easily enabled security features related to traffic sniffing and rogue network scanners. For example, I would enable the "honeypot" if you haven't already -- easily done.
And many more "obsessed" things you could do.
I'm about ready to throw my ubiquity in the trash, i'm in a 3000 sq ft house with 2 access points, ubiquity pushed a firmware update a few month ago and my speeds on 2.4g dropped in half, and i can't even connect to the 5ghz network anymore, there is no interference, the power levels are the same and when i'm sitting on the pot directly under an AP sitting in the attic, when i turn my phone to landscape mode i lose the connection completely. other devices in the house are constantly disconnecting and reconecting, i've been talking to UI support for a month now and no one can figure it out, i even rolled back the firmware and it's still the same. there has to be some setting that was changed during the update but i can't find what has changed. i'm ready to stick a damn simple mesh system in it's place, IT guys want $100 an hour to remote in and look at the settings. (pulling my hair out). if anyone has any advice i'm all ears.
I gave up on it. Bought simple Orbi Pro system.
@@ObsessedGarage yeah remember you said that during your podcast, I thought you said don't get the pro , either way it's probably better than ubiquity. I might send you a link to an unlisted TH-cam video of our house when we finished building it. It's only been three years and it's already doubled in value , which sucks because so have the taxes .