E-HELP LIKE BUT MORE POWERFULL (home made) ELECTRIC MOSKITO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- In this EXPERIMENTAL PROJECT we use a 6 lbs motor DIRECT SHAFT that could delivery 25 kw at 100 VOLTS , but we use only 17 kw at 66 volt so the motor produce less heat . we also use 6 or 9 LITHIUM POLYMER BATTERY 16 AMP 22 VOLTS . 3 IN SERIES to got 66 VOLTS x 2 OR 3 in PARALLEL to obtain 32 AMP OR 48 AMP , autonomy is aproximatively 1 hrs 10 min . this video is only for demonstration of the modern technologie . YOU SHOULD USE LITHIUM BATTERY very CAREFULLY because with such power they could be very dangerous and even can EXPLODE if not used minutely . only very experienced ELECTRONICIAN OR ELECTRICIAN using top quality battery , connector , switch , controller , ect . some battery are more safe than other one , So extreme care should be done with such big power used there .This project originated from ,Sept-Iles , Quebec , Canada , summer 2016 (DO NOT FORGET TO LOOK AT THE OTHER VIDEO) thank , Louis • SEPT-ILES , VOLER EN ...
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Very nice flying LOUIS
Amazing! NICE video, Thanks.
The wheel launch is very interesting.
Thanks for your explanations. I have just bought a New hang glide. I want to meke a e help with a help of engineer. 👍
Perfect.
i appreciate your comment , thank , i'am working now on another project , a very litle electric trike that i will use more power , it is my own trike that i but 20 years ago with a mechanical motor , so i compleately trown that motor i put an electric motor on , my projet is near to be compleated so i will put that on you tube next summer , the trike is litle but with anought big weel that i can ru on sand like the beach we use here in Sept-Iles , Quebec , Canada , thank Louis
a trike that i haved built enterely 20 year ago , but when you will see it , it maybe the lightest trike wou ever haved see .
Thanks
Very nice work. Thumbs up. We work on a similar project for powered paraglider in Denmark. But we have not reached he flying phase yet. I may get back to you to share knowledge/experiences. :)
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Thanks for sharing. I used to fly with a mosquito like harness for many years, many great flights across Australia. I used to get about 2 hours flight time from the tank, about 300fpm climb rate in cool smooth air. How does that compare with the elec version you have? I'm guessing one challenge is having a battery large enough for good flight time but not excessively heavy.
THE PILOTE WAS SYLVIO ROCHETTE WITH 100 HRS OF MORTORISED FLYING - BRAVO SYLVVIO !
It is a really nice set up that you have made.. I am really interested in knowing more on how you adapted the electric brushless motor on the Mossie Frame. It would be kind of you to share your experience regarding the same. Any photos of the same would be appreciated.
You have mentioned that the Discharge capacity of each cell is 15 C. You are using 3 cells in series i.e 22.2 * 3 = 66.6 Volts. Each cell is 16 Ah . You have mentioned that the discharge rate is 16 Ah * 15 C = 240 Amps.
But you are also using 3 of them in parallel. This makes them 16 Ah * 3 = 48 Ah . This would ideally make the discharge rate as 15 C * 48 Ah = 720 Amps. Am I going wrong with this. Pls correct me if i am wrong.
You mentioned that a 25 C or more rated battery is better. Will this high C rating be better if you are using on 16 Ah setup so that you will have a peak discharge of 16 Ah * 25 C = 400 Amps.
Please share your expert opinion on the same .
Did you modify a mosquito unit or everything is consume built including the harness, frame, legs, and drive shaft. The thrust is really impressive by the way.
WE START WITH AND OLD MOSKITO HARNESS ,I JUST CHANGE THE MOTORISATION TO AN ELECTRIC MOTOR , BUT BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE A DIRECT DRIVE WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATION OF THE FRAME TO ADAPT THE NEW ELECTRIC MOTOR , AND SHORTEN THE SHAFT , I CUT THE GAZ THANK WITH A GIGSAW TO PUT 6 LI-PO BATTERY IN IT , I SEND YOU SOME PHOTOS . , FOR THE SAFETY RED BALL THAT WAS THERE TO CUT THE POWER , WE ELEMINATE THE WIRE THAT WAS GOING TO THE CARBURATOR AND REPLACE IT BY A SPECTRA CABLE ATACHED TO A MAIN ELECTRIC WIRE THAT IS DISCONNECTED WHEN WE PULL THE SAFETY BALL . I WILL PRODUCE A TH-cam VIDEO SOON TO REVEAL HOW WE DO IT
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HERE IS ANOTHER PTOJECT 12 YEARS AGO , IT WAS AN ELECTRIC WINCH WITH 4000 ' AF SPECTRA LINE . ON IT . IN THOSE TIME WE GO UP TO 2300 ' IN LES THAN 45 SECONDES , AND SOMETIME HIGHWER WIT A SECOND STAIR WITH THAT WINCH .
HAVE A NICE DAY LOUIS
@@louistherriault5737 Thank you very much. You inspired me to do a similar build. I am planning to use MAD TORQ M40C30 a light weight 19 kw motor. I will run the same battery setup with 2 banks of 18S 66v each. I still haven't found a suitable ESC. Which one do you recommend for my build? I like how you are using a direct drive of old mosquito frame do you have picture you can send me of the engine mount and drive shaft. Thank you!
@@nice2care Do not forget that li-ion battery have not enought C (2 to 5 C) To deliver enought power for take-off . only li-polymer with (16 to120 C) CAN DO IT . I SUGGEST 40 C MINIMUM TO MANAGE YOUR BATTERY .
@@nice2care i suggest 22s 350 or 400 amp , it add a very small weight , but it more safe , we already burn a smaller one . it is very best option . for charger you will need a LI-PO charger . Best luck . i gave you my e-mail , but trown youtube is dificult so extrapolate what is next . louistherriaultalbatros999999 replace 9999 by a (.) folow that by (gmail) follow (.) and (com) if you can . i will send you photos and explanation .Bye
Very nice. Some questions: what motor are you using and where did you get it? Where are the batteries placed on your glider/harness? Is the rear boom directly attached to the keel or to the hang strap?
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Good job.. Congrats.. Can you make an offer for a ready made set with props and backplate mount with wheel to mimcan70@gmail.com
Amazing. I am thinking about making something like this. I have few questions. That is the weight of this (and how much is weight of the batteries)? What climb rate can you achieve(not peak but for several minutes) and for how long? I would like it just to climb few hundred meters, then fly in thermals and keep some reserve in the case a can not find good landing place. (like e-lift). Thank you
Motor 6 lbs , controller 2 lbs , main swith 1 lbs , propeller 52 inch at 2500 rpm , lithium-polymer battery 5 lbs each , fly time 1 HOUR , 1 HOUR 10 MINUTES DEPENDING WHAT ALTITIDE YOU WANT TO GO with 9 battery ,
I THINK > 4000 ' > 1200 M IS POSSIBLE IN CALM BREASE , no thermals .
NEWS LITIUM-POLYMER-BATTERY APPEARING TODAY WICH CAN BE USED AT HIGHER C than the one we used in this project that where rated (16 Amp/h , 15 C) . (C IS THE MAXIMAL OUTPUT POWER YOU CAN USE WITH THOSE BATTERY , HERE WE ARE TALKING (15 X 16 AMP = 240 AMP/H) FOR A SHORT TIME , I STRONLY SUGGEST YOU USE ONLY HALF OF THAT (MAXIMAL C/2 ) SO HALF C WILL BE MORE SAFE FOR THE BATTERY AND FOR THERE LIFETIME . "" AND SAFETY FOR THE USER """ .
Newer battery can now go (22 Amp/h , 100 C ), that mean you can use only 3 battery (for a short time to reach thermals) . AND SAVE WEIGHT AND MONEY BECAUSE BATTERY ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IN THOSE PROJECTS.
I DO NOT FIND BATTERY THAT GO HIGHER C THAN LITIUM-POLIMER BATTERY FOR THE MOMENT .
LITIUM-ION ONLY GO TO (5 C) SO THEY WERE USELESS AT TAKE-OF BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT SUSTAINING THE DELIVERING ENERGY AT TAKE-OFF WITH A HANG GLIDER , BUT THEY CAN DELIVER LONG TIME USE AT LOW C .
P/S >>>> if you could find better battery delivering 30 -40 C with a low weight just communicate this info to me . i want to know ! thank LOUIS .
Where you live ? look like you have nice place to fly ! Keek me in touch with your paramotor project , if i can help ?
You will need a lithium polymer charger 22,2 volt for charging 2 or 4 battery ($300-$400). for 1 battery only ($80) . A speed controller ($25-$75) , controller ($300) , programmator for the controller ($50) , motor ($400) , and finally the battery ($200-$400) each, also fuse , fuse box , wires an connectors .
Thank you for the answer. Your experience will be very useful. I am from Czech Republic. I am not sure if i get to this project this year but i really love it so i hope it will be soon. :-) This numbers are really impressive. You say it is possible to fly to 1200m. What would be the climb speed during this?
Newer battery can now go (22 Amp/h , 100 C ), that mean you can use only 3 battery (for a short time to reach thermals) . AND SAVE WEIGHT AND MONEY BECAUSE BATTERY ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IN THOSE PROJECTS.
I DO NOT FIND BATTERY THAT GO HIGHER C THAN LITIUM-POLIMER BATTERY FOR THE MOMENT .
LITIUM-ION ONLY GO TO (5 C) SO THEY WERE USELESS AT TAKE-OF BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT SUSTAINING THE DELIVERING ENERGY AT TAKE-OFF WITH A HANG GLIDER , BUT THEY CAN DELIVER LONG TIME USE AT LOW C .
Is this type of unit for sale?
I use to fly the mosquito but car crash made foot launch and landing not possible now.
I am very interested in buying a powered hang glider like this! (not a trike)
Please someone let me know where I can buy something like this.
CAR CRASH !
CAN YOU STILL USE YOUR LEGS ?DO YOU OWN A MOSKQUITO ?
WHERE YOU LIVE , COUNTRY ?
THANK , BEST REGARDS ? LOUIS
What he meant was a wheel launch like yours.
Fist observation: it looks kind of heavy.
Could you please share the make/model of motor you are using?
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I think he wants to market it first. (good idea)
which ESC controller have you used for that and propeller for maximum thrust ? and where you get all those things ? i want to build electric para motor..
Prashant More Dear More where do you live and are you a pilot trained or hobbyist knowing more about constructions of AtoZ thanks
@@philipjoseph1509 from India. i'm para-glider pilot and building electric para-motor just for hobby ...
Nice!
what size of prop and pitch?
THE SIZE IS 52 " MADE IN QUEBEC
how much duration flight it gives in this combination of batteries.?
1 HOUR , 1 HOUR 10 MINUTES DEPENDING WHAT ALTITIDE YOU WANT TO GO
I THINK 4000 ' > 1200 M IS POSSIBLE IN CALM BREASE .
NEWS LITIUM-POLYMER-BATTERY APPEARING TODAY WICH CAN BE USED AT HIGHER C than the one we used in this project were rated (16 Amp/h , 15 C) . (C IS THE MAXIMAL OUTPUT POWER YOU CAN USE WITH THOSE BATTERY , HERE WE ARE TALKING (15 X 16 AMP = 240 AMP/H) FOR A SHORT TIME , I STRONLY SUGGEST YOU USE ONLY HALF OF THAT (MAXIMAL C/2 ) SO HALF C WILL BE MORE SAFE FOR THE BATTERY AND FOR THERE LIFETIME . "" AND SAFETY FOR THE USER """ .
Newer battery can now go (22 Amp/h , 100 C ), that mean you can use only 3 battery (for a short time to reach thermals) . AND SAVE WEIGHT AND MONEY BECAUSE BATTERY ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IN THOSE PROJECTS.
I DO NOT FIND BATTERY THAT GO HIGHER C THAN LITIUM-POLIMER BATTERY FOR THE MOMENT .
LITIUM-ION ONLY GO TO (5 C) SO THEY WERE USELESS AT TAKE-OF BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT SUSTAINING THE DELIVERING ENERGY AT TAKE-OFF WITH A HANG GLIDER , BUT THEY CAN DELIVER LONG TIME USE AT LOW C .
>>>> if you could find better battery delivering 20 C a low weight just communicate this info to me . i want to know ! thank LOUIS .
plz check this out,, it might work for you. www.getfpv.com/tattu-22000mah-6s-25c-lipo-battery-5341.html
I purchased this motor with recommended 22S 380A ESC But ESC caught fire within two minute even I was using LifePO4 batteries which are less volts 3.2V not as much as 4.2 what Lipo can give
So be careful there products are not as reliable as it looked
you have to buy a more powerfull ESC 450 A OR 500 A .
what is the total voltage you use ? what is the max C OF YOUR BATERRY ? WHAT IS THE Kw OF YOUR MOTOR ? IT IS MACHING YOUR RPM FOR YOUR PROJECT ? and so on ,
what i can say , those motors are perfect for us , we use 3 of those motors , and have only good thiings
to say , but use a bigger ESC !
Do you sell this device? Do you think to bring it to market?
IF I COULD FIND A SERIOUS AND MOTIVATED PARTNER , OR CONSTRUCTOR FOR THE MECHANICAL COMPONENTS and assembly (frame ,motor ,controller ,shaft .electronic and electric parts). FOR THE BATTERY , I CAN ONLY GAVE SPECIFICATION And concil . i do not want to sell or take responsabilite for such powefull battery , the buyer of such battery should take all the informations , have a good maintenance and the appropriete charger balancer, and hold a log book to check every cell of each battery after each use to discard immediately a defective one for safety . some new battery have special construction to prevent a short or surcharge , so the buyer should take all the responsabilite for the maintenance and the safety of using them . we make more than 20 flight before the big winter here in northen Quebec . without incident , we hold a log book , and we decard one battery because one people slipped it to ground and one cell look litle bit crush . i already work on another project , more powerfull , for an electrick trike or electrick paramotor . i have a trusted MOTOR CONSTRUCTOR THAT MAKE MOTOR FOR ME for my special need . Same as for controller . Thank Louis
Is the propeller geared down or a straight drive from the motor?
direct drive
@@henryphillips4683 DIRECT DRIVE , NO GEAR , ONLY A DOUBLE MESH CHAIN TO CONNECT THE DRIVE AND THE SHAHT TOGETTER . IF YOU WANT PHOTOS COMMUNICATE WITH ME , THANK
direct drive - not geared
what battery you use ?
1 HOUR , 1 HOUR 10 MINUTES DEPENDING WHAT ALTITIDE YOU WANT TO GO
I THINK 4000 ' > 1200 M IS POSSIBLE IN CALM BREASE .
NEWS LITIUM-POLYMER-BATTERY APPEARING TODAY WICH CAN BE USED AT HIGHER C than the one we used in this project were rated (16 Amp/h , 15 C) . (C IS THE MAXIMAL OUTPUT POWER YOU CAN USE WITH THOSE BATTERY , HERE WE ARE TALKING (15 X 16 AMP = 240 AMP/H) FOR A SHORT TIME , I STRONLY SUGGEST YOU USE ONLY HALF OF THAT (MAXIMAL C/2 ) SO HALF C WILL BE MORE SAFE FOR THE BATTERY AND FOR THERE LIFETIME . "" AND SAFETY FOR THE USER """ .
Newer battery can now go (22 Amp/h , 100 C ), that mean you can use only 3 battery (for a short time to reach thermals) . AND SAVE WEIGHT AND MONEY BECAUSE BATTERY ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IN THOSE PROJECTS.
I DO NOT FIND BATTERY THAT GO HIGHER C THAN LITIUM-POLIMER BATTERY FOR THE MOMENT .
LITIUM-ION ONLY GO TO (5 C) SO THEY WERE USELESS AT TAKE-OF BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT SUSTAINING THE DELIVERING ENERGY AT TAKE-OFF WITH A HANG GLIDER , BUT THEY CAN DELIVER LONG TIME USE AT LOW C .
>>>> if you could find better battery delivering 20 C a low weight just communicate this info to me . i want to know ! thank LOUIS .