It's not showing emotion. It's not being able to control your emotion. Being a stoic robot isn't authentic to being a human and it turns women off. As long as you understand your emotion, control it, and do not let them overwhelm your judgment/action, then you are ok.
Well, the fine line here is that if you feel insecure --- and because of that insecurity, a bad emotion comes - if you start showing that or spewing that, it will turn her off. I agree that showing emotions is not bad in other situations. But it obviously shouldn't turn into a therapy session. The thing is, if you can accruately say what you feel, it will make what people call "communication" 100% easier. Pushing what you feel down will just bottle it up for later and overflow , then you created a bad situation to begin with.
Well said from both. I love saying sweet things to my woman... and she loves receiving them. I try to operate from strength...if I feel weak at times I go alone and process... come back strong.
This ! It works with healthy women. Even if you're at the top of your game, a toxic/immature/insecure woman will take you down. It could work for a while, even years, but it will fail. And she will push you to your limits and drain you.
My daughter lives far away from me and it's always painful to say goodbye when I drop her off with her mom. This one time I broke down crying because the pain of not seeing again for a while was too strong, so I had to drive to the side of the highway and cry for a solid five minutes. My girlfriend was on the passenger seat and consoled me until I stepped out of the car, blew my nose, cleared my tears and got my shit together again. The next couple hours of driving were just chill and fun. You are her mountain, but every century, the tides will cause erosion and rock slides. You can be vulnerable in front of your woman, just don't do it often. Only when it matters.
You can absolutely be vulnerable around women you just HAVE to be indifferent about the outcome of being vulnerable. Mark Manson explains this really really well in Models.
@@Priva_C Bro, turn to the Lord. Ask Jesus Christ to come into your life and help you. Ask him to help you get through this tough time of not seeing your daughter. I pray that Jesus Christ will come into your life and help you through this time! Amen!
You're not alone brother. I'm currently geographically separated from my daughter, due to divorce, by about 2,000 miles. I also cried like a baby last time I had to say goodbye to her. There was no girlfriend then to console me at the time. But yeah...I think you hit the nail on the head...you can show that kind of emotion on OCCASION to a woman, but not often.
It helps that you changed the mood. You didnt stay mopping, and any negative ick she might of gotten was quickly forgotten when you made the situation fun.
keep in mind that all press is good press because being mentioned in any media including TH-cam in the context of controversy, is beneficial to the subject because it brings publicity.. that is why Corey never mentions names .. One of Rollo's friends that came after him by the name of Rich Cooper on TH-cam has a way better delivery in his work than Rollo has in my opinion.. I do not follow either of them but i have read up on their work just to see what exactly it is they are teaching.. Rollo gets debated and roasted often by other content creators because red pill content does not have a leader that will technically claim ownership from its inception, if it even technically has an exact inception, we dont really know ...
I'm so happy you started addressing the red pill stuff. Been following you for years. Read the book 6 times and got the audio book to re up from time to time . Tell all my friends and nephew. Appreciate your work .
The only time i broke down emotionally infront of a woman is when whe told me to my face that she was with another guy the night before. At first i just shut off and looked at her, and I began to walk away and then she started crying saying "i love you, Im sorry, dont leave" and that made me break down and i just sat agaisnt the wall and started tearing up. I couldn't walk away, and ultimately it just made things worse than it could have been. I was totally in love with her, so it wasn't easy just to let go (this was before I gave coreys stuff a chance, I was quite arrogant since ive always had short term sucess with woman, but being in love changed the game for me)
Coach, you should do a series of videos on the Hollywood/media effect against Masculinity. Pick a film/TV show and break the character down. It would be really interesting.
If you read 3 percent man then any of the red pill books straight after, immediately you can see the authors in the red pill books lose frame,come across as weak and aren’t into their masculine. Threw out all the red pill books I had. Love your work Coach.
I recently had the opposite situation happen to me. A girl I was recently dated would beg me to be more open and 'vulnerable' to her. I didn't give in and a few months later she dumped me and I later found out through mutual friends I wasn't 'vulnerable" enough to her. I can't make sense of it.
There's a difference between sharing your thoughts, opinions and desires vs being upset/crying etc... Share your positive emotions, but if you share your negative ones, she just associates being with you as depressing and negative. Depending on the women, they might be ok with it, they might find it unattractive. A relationship should be fun and about giving, not to bring you down. It's possible you were acting like a robot and it gave her some bad vibes that she remembers from a negative experience (bad ex bf, date, family member, friend) and got some ick from it. It's also entirely likely you were showing signs of internal struggle, her noticing it and you refusing to talking about it, but instead of resolving it and going to therapy and taking action, you just kept it in and brushed it aside. These are based on many many humbling and realizing experiences.
@@Motorhead264 "PLEASE DON'T GO OUT WITH YOUR GIRLFIRENDS 🥺WHAT IF U CHEAT ON ME 🥺🥺🥺" "ill keep texing you the whole night to keep you good company 🥺" "omg did you flirt with that guy on the store?????? I saw you talk to him smiling?????" it's things like this that are bad lol. but if you wanna talk about how your unlce touched you as a kid, and how it left you scars deep inside that you don't know how to heal? then you defenetly should say it. But listen carefully, there is a place and time to say these things. If you choose the wrong time it will come off as if you're begging her to save you. But if the topic was already around sharing details about eachother that you havent with anyone else? Then yes, you do it. If you cry whilst doing it, that's good. Women like seeing that you can be vulnerable with them like that. The problem is spamming and being annoying. Mentioning it once should be enough, unless she asks you again. or if the topic just naturally occurs there again, idk. Just don't force stuff to where you look desperate, because that is what she wants you to be. Someone to rely on when she becomes desperate and not knowing what to do, etc. Like the rock to lean on in the storm.
To add to Corey’s point about the propaganda on TV, there’s a cartoon called Fairly Odd Parents. In the first season, Cosmo, the fairy husband had a deep voice, was calm, cool, collected, and intelligent. In the following seasons they gave him a high pitched voice and he became an idiot. They even showed the natural progression of his wife fawning over him in season 1 to arguing with and looking down on him in the following seasons.
Lol. The bitter and angry red pill dating coaches Corey Wayne is talking about is clearly Fresh & Fit. And he's right. They're way too hostile with pent up frustration towards women
What put me off about F&F is that they bring on women I wouldn't want to be near let alone anyone I'd be remotely attracted to for the sake of dating. It's entertaining and that's it. A handful of episodes and I was done.
@@stevensaleh6955 EXACTLY. They bring whores and only fans girls just so they can argue with them, sh!t on them & put them in their place just for views
I’ve read Rollo’s book and your book and found many similarities. I think you guys are more alike than you realize. Many of his advice that are similar to yours is being in your masculine, pursuing your purpose, dating multiple women and not chasing. Where you may differ is that Rollo goes into more depth into concepts like Hypergamy and Sexual Market Value. I’ve also read up on Dr. David Buss’s book evolution of desire which confirms many of the redpill theories. And that one is based on evolutionary psychology. But I do believe that the redpill can be very toxic for some people. I do appreciate what you are teaching as it’s more suitable for people looking for something more long term and serious where as the redpill breeds paranoia.
In the Katt Williams interview video that went viral. (many here know what interview i'm talking about). He discussed how men who put on the dress for movie roles in hollywood became type cast. It puts them in a feminine position that prevents most of them from being seen as strong men for more masculine roles. Its the same with being around women. The moment a women feels she is not safe with the man. Seeing him as her equal or less. She begins to pull away. Being seen as emotional. Is a sign of weakness to women. It has its place for a man to be emotional like a woman. But he must regain is masculine energy and own it. Otherwise she will see him as her equal and move back.
Because they don't want responsibility, accountability and want to feel safe if they take half your stuff. Be confident and authentic. They may not like you but they will respect you.
From what gather it seems fine to show vulnerability but only occasionally. I think what is important here is that after you do you immediately get back on the horse and regain control.
It's better to shut up when dealing with women. Let them talk. The more you open your mouth as a man the bigger the risk of you talking her out of liking you.
I had this same thing happen and I just walked away and 4 months later she freaked out as she didn’t believe I truly walked away forever even though I loved and cared for her deeply. I simply said you decide you no longer wanted me so I left. And I also said I just wanted her to be happy and clearly I was not what she wanted as her feet, actions walked away from me. I told her words mean nothing if your actions and feet don’t match. I have learned that I move slow, go with how the woman makes me feel, and if she is the best fit for me. I have learned that even though I go with how I feel and how I am treated by a woman I do NOT tell her this as she doesn’t need to know why or why I didn’t pick her. Since I realize it’s how they make me feel and how genuine I feel they are to me it’s shocking how much I can walk away at anytime and how unattached I am if I feel I am not wanted. Plus I poke the bear to see how playful they are as I only like ones that are playful or at the very least don’t snap unless I take it too far.
I have opened up my emotions to different women. I notices most have different reactions coach… one woman deeply appreciated and we ended up dating. One was schocked and one thought I was a manipulator 😂
Odd truth here. About a year ago I lost my dad. Horrible time. I fell apart a few times the first week of his passing. I literally felt my wife’s presence lighten around me. That destroyed a lot of trust. Men are very ride or die…which is different than women.
Rollo always has an open door policy for anyone who wants to debate him so would love to see that happen face to face rather than each just “name calling” on their individual videos. Seems like the more masculine (less weak) thing to do for both. Not putting either of em down. Would just love to see an open, honest discussion. Unedited of course
@@alexinivai08I like both. I just think the name calling makes CW sound weak. Calling him a nerd…. C’mon we’re not in the 5th grade. I like and have learned a lot from CW and RT. If there is an issue I Woukd rather seem them speak face to face like adults. Makayla Peterson was adult enough to speak with RT like adults even though they don’t see eye to eye. I believe CW could do the same
I was listening to some TH-cam business advice and they'll focused more on "brand". Similar to your business approach. You thought of it a decade ago, good for you
I don't understand why so many men are so eager to jump into a relatjonship instead of letting her bring it up. Life is complicated and busy enough as it is. A relationship is like taking on another full-time job.
Hello Coach!, I just discovered you a couple weeks ago and it was perfect timing. After watching plenty of your videos it has helped me realize my mistake. I was able to make the correction quickly and the outcome I wanted was in my favor. I am still not done , as now I am starting to read your book. I want to stay on this path and keep it going in the positive direction. I love everything you have to say and some of the shit you say makes me laugh my ass off. Thanks again! Heyyyyyy! lol
Corey how do you manage a situation where women at the gym are taking a photo or video of you? I've seen it a handful of times over the years now and I have changed my behaviour because of it. Coming from a traumatic childhood and upbringing I am very alert but it's also obvious when you feel someone burning a hole in the back of your head with their eyes, so much so that often I've had the urge to turn to a specific direction and make eye contact with a stranger. So I have been trying to resist the urge and just stay focussed on my objective such as working out or if I am out in public, then what ever I am doing there. I find this very difficult. But now, women are making more effort to get my attention it seems. Yesterday on the way to work going into and back out of the elevator, I let the girl in front go into the lift first and I got out the next floor. As I left the lift the girl said 'goodbye!' from behind me after I had not paid any attention to her at all. And this morning, a woman at the gym after not paying any attention to her eventually stared at me in the side of my face until I turned and made eye contact with her and then she looked behind me at the TV screen with her eyes lol. But in previous times with different women I look up and they have their phone square pointed at me whereas they would be on their phone beforehand in a more natural pose and when I have looked across because of what I've said above they pull their phone away or keep it there and move it away after a minute while I'm working out. I do feel a bit uncomfortable and in previous times when I've attempted to just be friendly and say hi to anyone and everyone at the gym, in most all other previous times with the women, I have found that they will then later not make eye contact and not say hi when I attempt to. The phone thing could be me making a gym workout sex face - I really don't know, I'm concentrating on working out. And the no talking thing, maybe I'm just too friendly? I treat everyone the same including the guys and will converse with the guys even the gay guys. Actually maybe they think I'm gay. I can't win 🤣
Correct me if I’m wrong but this definitely reminds me of the light side Jedi in Star Wars. They don’t show any negative emotions because such emotions can lead you to the dark side. At least that’s how it is in KOTOR.
There are several rival ideologies that offer benefits to men. Corey's, as well as Rollo Tomassi's, are just 2 of the biggest in this space. Neither are perfect at all, but they can be very effective if used wisely. The problem comes with the men who are unable to apply the fundamental ideas in a way that is true to the material but also true to their personal experience.
what if she compares you to her ex from the very beginning - saying things like "it`s not so strong with you", "it`s not so chemical", "kissing with you is not so exciting".... even saying she don't want anything with you (even cuddling) after you visit her in her town after that short summer romance? while then after a few hours she ask you if you are horny and doing everything with you again? am i a weak man if all that what she did messed me up in the way i went too emotional and blocked ?
I've been a fan of yours for YEARS. And I still think you have some of the best dating content for men. But I've gotta say when it comes to "modern women" the negativity is not over exaggerated. At least in my experience dating here in Seattle wa. These women are pretty damn trashy. And pretty damn proud of it. I'm 37 years old and in my lifetime I've never once met a girl without atleast a SOMEWHAT gross, trashy past. I understand these are the times that we live in. But I also don't think it's unreasonable for men to want a girl that's not a vulgar, nightclub loving, porn loving, ghetto hip hop culture adoring typical modern female. Because it's not an exaggeration, at least in my experience, to say that is for SURE the majority of women 35 and younger. Again, ATLEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE HERE IN SEATTLE. Great video as always!!!! Much love, coach!!
Just like how much of guys having that feeling thats she is the one and they just need to prove it to her, stop getting into ur feelings and corey would spit on rollo for how of a lil bitch he is
I love your stuff Corey! My only critique is you don't really understand the subconscious mind. Everything else is gold. The only RP guru you could be talking about it Rollo Tomassi, but correct me if I'm wrong. He's actually quite muscular, earns 6 figures and has an attractive wife. He does come off as rather pissed off at times though. There's some sort of trauma there. Are you talking about someone else? I can't think of anyone else. I agree on your comments about Fresh and Fit. They only bring Miami club girls on. Bottom of the barrel when it comes to maturity. Young women in general are, well, young and don't know anywhere near what they think they do. Same thing with some men that age.
I cba to watch this but Im a girl and i can tell you this. When men are NEEDY AND INSECURE it is offputting. When they SHOW THEIR EMOTIONS, as long as they arnt getting really angry in an uncontrolled way, it is not offputting, it's healthy. I dont want to be with a man who never expresses how he feels in a healthy way. That's toxic and leads to suicide etc. Corey you are great but please dont make men feel like they can't express how they feel in a healthy way.
@@Amethyst12thheaven I just don't think anyone should be given a limit on their crying. Sometimes you need to let it all out, and that is really healthy. If you're told you can cry a bit but not too much then you will feel like you cant really express yourself properly and let it out and be supported. If they never make an effort to sort out their issues and help themselves then that can become a problem. But why should women be allowed to cry and not men? I don't want to be told by my boyfriend i'm only allowed to cry a little bit, cos then I wouldnt feel fully supported by him. I was talking to my bf about this and I asked him about whether he feels like he can cry or not, and he said he just gradually became aware of these societal expectations that men don't cry, and it's bullshit and sexist in my opinion. This is why men are much more likely to commit suicide. CRYING DOES NOT MAKE YOU WEAK IT MAKES YOU STRONG. NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP YOURSELF/GET BETTER MAKES YOU WEAK
@@Amethyst12thheaven But i do agree with you that insecure men can be annoying. I don't mind if he's a bit insecure now and then about stuff and just wants to check with me, but if it comes out in the form of jealousy or oversensitivity, it's really annoying. Like I want to be able to take the piss out of them and have banter and question them and challenge them and if they lose their shit and start telling me I'm a bitch for doing so it's really off putting. E.g. this complete dickhead I was seeing for a while got all offended because I jokingly said "gaaaaaay" when he said an actor was hot. Like he literally took it seriously and told me to fuck off. He also lost his shit when I asked him if his script set in the olden days was accurate, like I said "so is that accurate for those times?" and he lost it.
@@Amethyst12thheaven I find it much more of a turn off if a guy isn’t honest and open and self aware about his feelings and problems and gets all stroppy and sulky and offended all the time
26:07 anyone that tells you to go to another country to get women is telling you he can’t get women in his own country lol. I’ve been to 20 countries, lived in a few. Let me tell you, if you can get women you can get them anywhere. You don’t need to leave to get one. It is easier in some countries? Yes. But only because you’re coming from the USA and there’s that intrigue women have about men from the USA
I usually agree with Corey, but on this specific topic, I think he's not necessarily wrong about the entire premise but specifically about being strong, he is. A man that can open up, tear up occasionally, be goofy, and vulnerable, are extremely attractive qualities. I wouldn't do this very first time meeting a woman, but after a few dates, I'd wade into those waters. Showing emotion is strong, not weak. Right place, right time, however.
The red pillI enjoy is Rich Cooper. He is red pill but not crazy. Rollo is an angry nerd. Fresh and Fit only took like 10 minutes if it to realize thats just dumb and never went back to it.
@@VoiceOfThe I agree on Rich. I discovered him a couple of months ago, I like a lot of what he says. I think he gets a bit too harsh on certain things, but strong men respond to be being pushed hard. I know I do.
I read Rich’s book and seen a good amount of his videos. To me he seems like more of an angry bitter old divorced man than Rollo does. I do like some of the stuff he says, but he comes across way more bitter to me.
So. Opening up, being auhtentic, showing human emotions being real is a feminine energt instead of being just human a human being. Hm. Interesting concept.
I saw the verizon commercial He looks dorky even the kids were masculine over him. Mom, hold in the groceries and telling him. Don't salk over the bill. Pretty pathetic
Did you think about the following. We as a human society have not learned how to hold space for emotional pain and this is why women are unable to stay with mens emptions, maybe spciety didnt teach wpmen but also men how to be present and hoding space?
There is really no blueprint for this. Unless you become a blubbering idiot every day of the week with no improvement, a woman who truly loves you won't ditch you because you show weakness and emotions. Maybe this particular girl the guy is describing in the e-mail is just an asshole.
My gal after goin silent on a pull back figured she was gonna play cutesy and maybe I wouldn't hold her to answerin for that sh!t...Thats cool...first the havin fun. Then the talk....Still gotta answer for it. ... 😉 Tolerance is deadly.
if you show emotions in a non-needy, non-desperate, or based on misery, and you do so in away that's selfless., and don't do it all the time..... dude hot girls can't get enough of you..
He keeps repeating this but I see zero evidence online where men in blue states lose more in a divorce. “ you get what you(‘re lawyer) negotiates” I’m not trash talking Coach because I really appreciate him and think he’s quite smart but I just buy this claim. I could be wrong
In general.If you get married in a blue state and get divorced, the divorce is expensive and you have to give your ex-wife half. Red states, you can keep what’s yours.
@@pmonk1177 I’d love to see evidence of this as I’ve genuinely tried finding support for this statement online and haven’t been able to find anything saying this is true.
I have heard it from countless clients who live in blue states and what happens in their divorces compared to red state clients. You’re obviously a liberal and only believe what your tv tells you. So you assume everyone else with different views is lying or stupid.
who's the red pill leader, corey's talking about?....holy shit corey, you went off on a 5 minute diatribe on the red-pill community, wait, a second 5 minute diatribe
I love your rants on those red pilled incels. Keep up Master Wayne. Ive seen those same incels, from those podcasts, having a one on one conversation with a beautiful dark skinned woman. Shes just asking them questions about women. When they answer her they come off as bitter, resentful and hateful. She just looks at them with pity.
It's not showing emotion. It's not being able to control your emotion. Being a stoic robot isn't authentic to being a human and it turns women off. As long as you understand your emotion, control it, and do not let them overwhelm your judgment/action, then you are ok.
Well, the fine line here is that if you feel insecure --- and because of that insecurity, a bad emotion comes - if you start showing that or spewing that, it will turn her off. I agree that showing emotions is not bad in other situations.
But it obviously shouldn't turn into a therapy session. The thing is, if you can accruately say what you feel, it will make what people call "communication" 100% easier. Pushing what you feel down will just bottle it up for later and overflow , then you created a bad situation to begin with.
Well said from both. I love saying sweet things to my woman... and she loves receiving them. I try to operate from strength...if I feel weak at times I go alone and process... come back strong.
This x 1000
You can emotional. Tell your woman how much you love her. Just don’t be whiny bitch.
Exactly, don’t allow yourself to become emotionally hijacked by your emotions.
Remember guys… Corey’s book and ideology cannot apply to toxic woman. I have to remind myself of this constantly.
This ! It works with healthy women. Even if you're at the top of your game, a toxic/immature/insecure woman will take you down. It could work for a while, even years, but it will fail. And she will push you to your limits and drain you.
My daughter lives far away from me and it's always painful to say goodbye when I drop her off with her mom. This one time I broke down crying because the pain of not seeing again for a while was too strong, so I had to drive to the side of the highway and cry for a solid five minutes. My girlfriend was on the passenger seat and consoled me until I stepped out of the car, blew my nose, cleared my tears and got my shit together again. The next couple hours of driving were just chill and fun.
You are her mountain, but every century, the tides will cause erosion and rock slides. You can be vulnerable in front of your woman, just don't do it often. Only when it matters.
That's me right now bro 😭 I'm mentally getting ready to be away from my daughter for 3 weeks. We've never been apart over 2-3days consecutively.
You can absolutely be vulnerable around women you just HAVE to be indifferent about the outcome of being vulnerable. Mark Manson explains this really really well in Models.
@@Priva_C Bro, turn to the Lord. Ask Jesus Christ to come into your life and help you. Ask him to help you get through this tough time of not seeing your daughter. I pray that Jesus Christ will come into your life and help you through this time! Amen!
You're not alone brother. I'm currently geographically separated from my daughter, due to divorce, by about 2,000 miles. I also cried like a baby last time I had to say goodbye to her. There was no girlfriend then to console me at the time. But yeah...I think you hit the nail on the head...you can show that kind of emotion on OCCASION to a woman, but not often.
It helps that you changed the mood. You didnt stay mopping, and any negative ick she might of gotten was quickly forgotten when you made the situation fun.
Lmao it’s Rollo Tomassi if anyone’s wondering who he’s referring to
This is the comment I was looking for!
keep in mind that all press is good press because being mentioned in any media including TH-cam in the context of controversy, is beneficial to the subject because it brings publicity.. that is why Corey never mentions names .. One of Rollo's friends that came after him by the name of Rich Cooper on TH-cam has a way better delivery in his work than Rollo has in my opinion..
I do not follow either of them but i have read up on their work just to see what exactly it is they are teaching.. Rollo gets debated and roasted often by other content creators because red pill content does not have a leader that will technically claim ownership from its inception, if it even technically has an exact inception, we dont really know ...
im surprised coach wastes his time talking about them in many of these videos being that he has his own success with all of his work over the years..
@@bandsbusy3556coach is simply letting us know, there are frauds out there.
@@bandsbusy3556it’s not wasting time, it’s actually very informative and good he talks about it. He could keep it up
One of my first girlfriends once told me… “you ever just shut up?” And right then and there I knew just shut the fuck up and keep her guessing
That's right.Act more mysterious,like the " strong,silent,type.act like a cowboy.😊
Haha lesson learnt 🎉😊
Or you’re dating a complete asshat and you should leave immediately
a girl once told me "u think about anything that isnt sex?"
I'm so happy you started addressing the red pill stuff. Been following you for years. Read the book 6 times and got the audio book to re up from time to time . Tell all my friends and nephew. Appreciate your work .
Don Shula : Success is not forever and failure isn’t fatal
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The only time i broke down emotionally infront of a woman is when whe told me to my face that she was with another guy the night before. At first i just shut off and looked at her, and I began to walk away and then she started crying saying "i love you, Im sorry, dont leave" and that made me break down and i just sat agaisnt the wall and started tearing up. I couldn't walk away, and ultimately it just made things worse than it could have been. I was totally in love with her, so it wasn't easy just to let go (this was before I gave coreys stuff a chance, I was quite arrogant since ive always had short term sucess with woman, but being in love changed the game for me)
Yeeeeooowza, that's rough! I would have cracked too. Divorcing my wife was the last time I cried. I was a soggy pile of snot and tears.
On the bright side you've dodged a bullet there. That is a low integrity woman who is not suitable for longterm relationship.
Coach, you should do a series of videos on the Hollywood/media effect against Masculinity. Pick a film/TV show and break the character down. It
would be really interesting.
If you read 3 percent man then any of the red pill books straight after, immediately you can see the authors in the red pill books lose frame,come across as weak and aren’t into their masculine. Threw out all the red pill books I had. Love your work Coach.
@@michaelmich00 that’s another thing too, the red pill guys on the podcasts are always angry that’s not in control of emotions.
@@SamWhite-l3vyeah i noticed too all of the red pill manosphere or at least the majority are VERY angry that women are behaving like women its crazy
I recently had the opposite situation happen to me. A girl I was recently dated would beg me to be more open and 'vulnerable' to her. I didn't give in and a few months later she dumped me and I later found out through mutual friends I wasn't 'vulnerable" enough to her. I can't make sense of it.
LOL
Sounds like she did you a favor.
Sounds like she did you a favor.
Eh she sounds like a headache. Or maybe you were too much of a coldfish.
There's a difference between sharing your thoughts, opinions and desires vs being upset/crying etc... Share your positive emotions, but if you share your negative ones, she just associates being with you as depressing and negative. Depending on the women, they might be ok with it, they might find it unattractive. A relationship should be fun and about giving, not to bring you down. It's possible you were acting like a robot and it gave her some bad vibes that she remembers from a negative experience (bad ex bf, date, family member, friend) and got some ick from it. It's also entirely likely you were showing signs of internal struggle, her noticing it and you refusing to talking about it, but instead of resolving it and going to therapy and taking action, you just kept it in and brushed it aside. These are based on many many humbling and realizing experiences.
It's ok to talk about your feelings or emotions. It's the WAY you talk about it and the number of occurrences that can be feminine and a turnoff.
There is opening up in a sense of "I want to share this with you can you support me briefly in this moment but I will sort it out" and "please fix me"
@@Motorhead264 "PLEASE DON'T GO OUT WITH YOUR GIRLFIRENDS 🥺WHAT IF U CHEAT ON ME 🥺🥺🥺" "ill keep texing you the whole night to keep you good company 🥺" "omg did you flirt with that guy on the store?????? I saw you talk to him smiling?????"
it's things like this that are bad lol. but if you wanna talk about how your unlce touched you as a kid, and how it left you scars deep inside that you don't know how to heal? then you defenetly should say it. But listen carefully, there is a place and time to say these things. If you choose the wrong time it will come off as if you're begging her to save you.
But if the topic was already around sharing details about eachother that you havent with anyone else? Then yes, you do it. If you cry whilst doing it, that's good. Women like seeing that you can be vulnerable with them like that.
The problem is spamming and being annoying. Mentioning it once should be enough, unless she asks you again. or if the topic just naturally occurs there again, idk. Just don't force stuff to where you look desperate, because that is what she wants you to be. Someone to rely on when she becomes desperate and not knowing what to do, etc.
Like the rock to lean on in the storm.
And WHO you share it with.
Share it with male friends
once again, coach Corey spittin' truths.
When your ego is connected to your emotions, it usually doesn't end well.
To add to Corey’s point about the propaganda on TV, there’s a cartoon called Fairly Odd Parents. In the first season, Cosmo, the fairy husband had a deep voice, was calm, cool, collected, and intelligent. In the following seasons they gave him a high pitched voice and he became an idiot. They even showed the natural progression of his wife fawning over him in season 1 to arguing with and looking down on him in the following seasons.
I remember that. The change was insane
Not just in that. In almost every cartoon the male cartoon characters are being given a high pitched voice and that's really unsettling
Lol. The bitter and angry red pill dating coaches Corey Wayne is talking about is clearly Fresh & Fit. And he's right. They're way too hostile with pent up frustration towards women
What put me off about F&F is that they bring on women I wouldn't want to be near let alone anyone I'd be remotely attracted to for the sake of dating. It's entertaining and that's it. A handful of episodes and I was done.
@@stevensaleh6955 EXACTLY. They bring whores and only fans girls just so they can argue with them, sh!t on them & put them in their place just for views
It’s Rollo Tomassi or whatever his name is not fresh and fit
@@VinceUOIT both. listen fool
I’ve read Rollo’s book and your book and found many similarities. I think you guys are more alike than you realize. Many of his advice that are similar to yours is being in your masculine, pursuing your purpose, dating multiple women and not chasing.
Where you may differ is that Rollo goes into more depth into concepts like Hypergamy and Sexual Market Value.
I’ve also read up on Dr. David Buss’s book evolution of desire which confirms many of the redpill theories. And that one is based on evolutionary psychology.
But I do believe that the redpill can be very toxic for some people.
I do appreciate what you are teaching as it’s more suitable for people looking for something more long term and serious where as the redpill breeds paranoia.
Exactly the thoughts I had. Wish I had a friend like you
Yeah I like The Rational Male book series too.
The way you destroy rollo tomasi is so enjoyable😂😂
Weakness is weak and strength is strong. You strong, she like what you say.
In the Katt Williams interview video that went viral. (many here know what interview i'm talking about). He discussed how men who put on the dress for movie roles in hollywood became type cast. It puts them in a feminine position that prevents most of them from being seen as strong men for more masculine roles. Its the same with being around women. The moment a women feels she is not safe with the man. Seeing him as her equal or less. She begins to pull away. Being seen as emotional. Is a sign of weakness to women. It has its place for a man to be emotional like a woman. But he must regain is masculine energy and own it. Otherwise she will see him as her equal and move back.
Because they don't want responsibility, accountability and want to feel safe if they take half your stuff.
Be confident and authentic.
They may not like you but they will respect you.
From what gather it seems fine to show vulnerability but only occasionally. I think what is important here is that after you do you immediately get back on the horse and regain control.
It's better to shut up when dealing with women. Let them talk. The more you open your mouth as a man the bigger the risk of you talking her out of liking you.
I had this same thing happen and I just walked away and 4 months later she freaked out as she didn’t believe I truly walked away forever even though I loved and cared for her deeply. I simply said you decide you no longer wanted me so I left. And I also said I just wanted her to be happy and clearly I was not what she wanted as her feet, actions walked away from me. I told her words mean nothing if your actions and feet don’t match.
I have learned that I move slow, go with how the woman makes me feel, and if she is the best fit for me. I have learned that even though I go with how I feel and how I am treated by a woman I do NOT tell her this as she doesn’t need to know why or why I didn’t pick her. Since I realize it’s how they make me feel and how genuine I feel they are to me it’s shocking how much I can walk away at anytime and how unattached I am if I feel I am not wanted. Plus I poke the bear to see how playful they are as I only like ones that are playful or at the very least don’t snap unless I take it too far.
Awesome man!!
I have opened up my emotions to different women. I notices most have different reactions coach… one woman deeply appreciated and we ended up dating. One was schocked and one thought I was a manipulator 😂
Love you man, I have your book, you put me on the right track!!!!!
Coach has been on fire lately lol
You know Jim Rohn 👍 He's awesome, my first cassette / VHS coach.. watched it over 50 times
Dude I love you’re videos thanks for you’re work coach
He’s talking about Rollo 😂
Odd truth here. About a year ago I lost my dad. Horrible time. I fell apart a few times the first week of his passing. I literally felt my wife’s presence lighten around me. That destroyed a lot of trust. Men are very ride or die…which is different than women.
Corey, do a video on the dramatic increase of Adderall use among dating aged women and how it is affected their behavior/relationships. 🙏
Rollo always has an open door policy for anyone who wants to debate him so would love to see that happen face to face rather than each just “name calling” on their individual videos. Seems like the more masculine (less weak) thing to do for both. Not putting either of em down. Would just love to see an open, honest discussion. Unedited of course
Rollo is more feminine that’s a fact
@@rasheemthebestfirstone3274 literally who xd
You a fan huh
Rollo Tomasi was a villain in LA Confidential for a reason.
Guess the author thought Bud White and Ed Exley were feminine? Lol
@@alexinivai08I like both. I just think the name calling makes CW sound weak. Calling him a nerd…. C’mon we’re not in the 5th grade. I like and have learned a lot from CW and RT. If there is an issue I Woukd rather seem them speak face to face like adults. Makayla Peterson was adult enough to speak with RT like adults even though they don’t see eye to eye. I believe CW could do the same
I was listening to some TH-cam business advice and they'll focused more on "brand". Similar to your business approach. You thought of it a decade ago, good for you
I don't understand why so many men are so eager to jump into a relatjonship instead of letting her bring it up. Life is complicated and busy enough as it is. A relationship is like taking on another full-time job.
Hello Coach!, I just discovered you a couple weeks ago and it was perfect timing. After watching plenty of your videos it has helped me realize my mistake. I was able to make the correction quickly and the outcome I wanted was in my favor. I am still not done , as now I am starting to read your book. I want to stay on this path and keep it going in the positive direction. I love everything you have to say and some of the shit you say makes me laugh my ass off. Thanks again! Heyyyyyy! lol
Corey how do you manage a situation where women at the gym are taking a photo or video of you? I've seen it a handful of times over the years now and I have changed my behaviour because of it. Coming from a traumatic childhood and upbringing I am very alert but it's also obvious when you feel someone burning a hole in the back of your head with their eyes, so much so that often I've had the urge to turn to a specific direction and make eye contact with a stranger. So I have been trying to resist the urge and just stay focussed on my objective such as working out or if I am out in public, then what ever I am doing there. I find this very difficult. But now, women are making more effort to get my attention it seems. Yesterday on the way to work going into and back out of the elevator, I let the girl in front go into the lift first and I got out the next floor. As I left the lift the girl said 'goodbye!' from behind me after I had not paid any attention to her at all. And this morning, a woman at the gym after not paying any attention to her eventually stared at me in the side of my face until I turned and made eye contact with her and then she looked behind me at the TV screen with her eyes lol. But in previous times with different women I look up and they have their phone square pointed at me whereas they would be on their phone beforehand in a more natural pose and when I have looked across because of what I've said above they pull their phone away or keep it there and move it away after a minute while I'm working out. I do feel a bit uncomfortable and in previous times when I've attempted to just be friendly and say hi to anyone and everyone at the gym, in most all other previous times with the women, I have found that they will then later not make eye contact and not say hi when I attempt to. The phone thing could be me making a gym workout sex face - I really don't know, I'm concentrating on working out. And the no talking thing, maybe I'm just too friendly? I treat everyone the same including the guys and will converse with the guys even the gay guys. Actually maybe they think I'm gay. I can't win 🤣
Correct me if I’m wrong but this definitely reminds me of the light side Jedi in Star Wars. They don’t show any negative emotions because such emotions can lead you to the dark side. At least that’s how it is in KOTOR.
There are several rival ideologies that offer benefits to men. Corey's, as well as Rollo Tomassi's, are just 2 of the biggest in this space. Neither are perfect at all, but they can be very effective if used wisely. The problem comes with the men who are unable to apply the fundamental ideas in a way that is true to the material but also true to their personal experience.
what if she compares you to her ex from the very beginning - saying things like "it`s not so strong with you", "it`s not so chemical", "kissing with you is not so exciting".... even saying she don't want anything with you (even cuddling) after you visit her in her town after that short summer romance? while then after a few hours she ask you if you are horny and doing everything with you again? am i a weak man if all that what she did messed me up in the way i went too emotional and blocked ?
Corey you’re looking good these days!!
Thank you again Coach
Lmao. Corey spittin facts about Rollo. I've never seen him without a hat or headband and im convinced its a wig.
I can't believe that I've only read the book five times and and how fast do you lose the knowledge when you don't read it 10 to 15 times
Corey you be cracking me up this video but i am learning this😂😂
I've been a fan of yours for YEARS. And I still think you have some of the best dating content for men. But I've gotta say when it comes to "modern women" the negativity is not over exaggerated. At least in my experience dating here in Seattle wa. These women are pretty damn trashy. And pretty damn proud of it. I'm 37 years old and in my lifetime I've never once met a girl without atleast a SOMEWHAT gross, trashy past. I understand these are the times that we live in. But I also don't think it's unreasonable for men to want a girl that's not a vulgar, nightclub loving, porn loving, ghetto hip hop culture adoring typical modern female. Because it's not an exaggeration, at least in my experience, to say that is for SURE the majority of women 35 and younger. Again, ATLEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE HERE IN SEATTLE. Great video as always!!!! Much love, coach!!
You always speak truth. Thank you for your work
Why do I have a feeling that Corey and Rollo would get along just fine.
Just like how much of guys having that feeling thats she is the one and they just need to prove it to her, stop getting into ur feelings and corey would spit on rollo for how of a lil bitch he is
@@dukevalentinois /s
I have seen the Verizon feminine man commercial lol, the son, daughter, wife is CALM AF and he is just freaking the fuck out lololol
Is he referring to the author rollo tomassi? 😮😅
19:50 how u be the man is by FORGETTING ABOUT HER & GO OUT LIVE LIFE! Let her SEE a lifestyle you are living that she is MISSING OUT ON.
I love your stuff Corey! My only critique is you don't really understand the subconscious mind. Everything else is gold. The only RP guru you could be talking about it Rollo Tomassi, but correct me if I'm wrong. He's actually quite muscular, earns 6 figures and has an attractive wife. He does come off as rather pissed off at times though. There's some sort of trauma there. Are you talking about someone else? I can't think of anyone else. I agree on your comments about Fresh and Fit. They only bring Miami club girls on. Bottom of the barrel when it comes to maturity. Young women in general are, well, young and don't know anywhere near what they think they do. Same thing with some men that age.
I cba to watch this but Im a girl and i can tell you this. When men are NEEDY AND INSECURE it is offputting. When they SHOW THEIR EMOTIONS, as long as they arnt getting really angry in an uncontrolled way, it is not offputting, it's healthy. I dont want to be with a man who never expresses how he feels in a healthy way. That's toxic and leads to suicide etc. Corey you are great but please dont make men feel like they can't express how they feel in a healthy way.
@@Amethyst12thheaven I just don't think anyone should be given a limit on their crying. Sometimes you need to let it all out, and that is really healthy. If you're told you can cry a bit but not too much then you will feel like you cant really express yourself properly and let it out and be supported. If they never make an effort to sort out their issues and help themselves then that can become a problem. But why should women be allowed to cry and not men? I don't want to be told by my boyfriend i'm only allowed to cry a little bit, cos then I wouldnt feel fully supported by him. I was talking to my bf about this and I asked him about whether he feels like he can cry or not, and he said he just gradually became aware of these societal expectations that men don't cry, and it's bullshit and sexist in my opinion. This is why men are much more likely to commit suicide. CRYING DOES NOT MAKE YOU WEAK IT MAKES YOU STRONG. NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP YOURSELF/GET BETTER MAKES YOU WEAK
@@Amethyst12thheaven But i do agree with you that insecure men can be annoying. I don't mind if he's a bit insecure now and then about stuff and just wants to check with me, but if it comes out in the form of jealousy or oversensitivity, it's really annoying. Like I want to be able to take the piss out of them and have banter and question them and challenge them and if they lose their shit and start telling me I'm a bitch for doing so it's really off putting. E.g. this complete dickhead I was seeing for a while got all offended because I jokingly said "gaaaaaay" when he said an actor was hot. Like he literally took it seriously and told me to fuck off. He also lost his shit when I asked him if his script set in the olden days was accurate, like I said "so is that accurate for those times?" and he lost it.
@@Amethyst12thheavenyeah but if you’re with a supportive partner then you shouldn’t feel limited either
@@Amethyst12thheaven I find it much more of a turn off if a guy isn’t honest and open and self aware about his feelings and problems and gets all stroppy and sulky and offended all the time
26:07 anyone that tells you to go to another country to get women is telling you he can’t get women in his own country lol. I’ve been to 20 countries, lived in a few. Let me tell you, if you can get women you can get them anywhere. You don’t need to leave to get one. It is easier in some countries? Yes. But only because you’re coming from the USA and there’s that intrigue women have about men from the USA
Coach, what do you think about Casey Zander?
I usually agree with Corey, but on this specific topic, I think he's not necessarily wrong about the entire premise but specifically about being strong, he is. A man that can open up, tear up occasionally, be goofy, and vulnerable, are extremely attractive qualities. I wouldn't do this very first time meeting a woman, but after a few dates, I'd wade into those waters. Showing emotion is strong, not weak. Right place, right time, however.
Once again, the key word is "think" as soon as they start "thinking," a dumb move by her is about to happen.
Geez coach...thay guy really pissed you off😂
The red pillI enjoy is Rich Cooper. He is red pill but not crazy. Rollo is an angry nerd. Fresh and Fit only took like 10 minutes if it to realize thats just dumb and never went back to it.
@@VoiceOfThe I agree on Rich. I discovered him a couple of months ago, I like a lot of what he says. I think he gets a bit too harsh on certain things, but strong men respond to be being pushed hard. I know I do.
Rich has a good book too. And EO
I read Rich’s book and seen a good amount of his videos. To me he seems like more of an angry bitter old divorced man than Rollo does. I do like some of the stuff he says, but he comes across way more bitter to me.
For a second I thought coach was going at fresh and fit lol
There is a statefarm commercial where the lady starts ripping her husband to Jake about how her husband always needs his mommy...
Round one, FIGHT!
Damn He went in on Rollo
I only get upset when I look in my wallet after being with one
18:52 lmao 😂😂😂😂
Wonder video-email thanks for sharing coach
Good video 😏😊
this red pill guy...are you referring to rich cooper?
The keyword here is" You Cant Go Against Biology "
That’s 5 words
that's a statement 😂
what book and author is he referring to talking about the red pill community??
Rollo taumasi the rational male
Is Corey roasting Rollo Tomassi or Rich Cooper?
Rollo
Is the podcast MGTOW guy mentioned the "whatever" podcast guy?
No
Spot on 👍
As a man thinketh changed my life.
LOL damn I knew it was Rollo catching strays.
Corey going in lol. He's 100% correct though.
So. Opening up, being auhtentic, showing human emotions being real is a feminine energt instead of being just human a human being. Hm. Interesting concept.
I saw the verizon commercial He looks dorky even the kids were masculine over him. Mom, hold in the groceries and telling him. Don't salk over the bill. Pretty pathetic
Did you think about the following. We as a human society have not learned how to hold space for emotional pain and this is why women are unable to stay with mens emptions, maybe spciety didnt teach wpmen but also men how to be present and hoding space?
Haha. I love when Corey mocks and trolls the red pill community.
Ahh you’re taking about fresh and fit I like them though i like Myron I can’t disagree with him on anything honestly and you too
Corey Wayne what do you think about fresh and fit?
Oh actually after listening to the whole video I believe you were actually talking about them at one point lol
Myron is always arguing with women. That’s all he does.
Men who argue with women don’t understand them.
Agreed Rollo got zero fukin game!
I've also never heard someone who loves to hear themselves speak as much as he does, well maybe Corey😂
There is really no blueprint for this. Unless you become a blubbering idiot every day of the week with no improvement, a woman who truly loves you won't ditch you because you show weakness and emotions.
Maybe this particular girl the guy is describing in the e-mail is just an asshole.
My gal after goin silent on a pull back figured she was gonna play cutesy and maybe I wouldn't hold her to answerin for that sh!t...Thats cool...first the havin fun. Then the talk....Still gotta answer for it. ... 😉
Tolerance is deadly.
If you’re watching the NFL playoff games you’re definitely seeing ads with the hush puppies beta guy featured in them.
Doesn't sound like much of an endorsement for Verizon. Maybe I should switch to T-Mobile...🤣🤣
Coach is not having it this morning😂😂😂😂
if you show emotions in a non-needy, non-desperate, or based on misery, and you do so in away that's selfless., and don't do it all the time..... dude hot girls can't get enough of you..
‘Decided to get married in a blue state’ what does that have to do with anything? I missed that part
He keeps repeating this but I see zero evidence online where men in blue states lose more in a divorce. “ you get what you(‘re lawyer) negotiates” I’m not trash talking Coach because I really appreciate him and think he’s quite smart but I just buy this claim. I could be wrong
In general.If you get married in a blue state and get divorced, the divorce is expensive and you have to give your ex-wife half. Red states, you can keep what’s yours.
@@pmonk1177 I’d love to see evidence of this as I’ve genuinely tried finding support for this statement online and haven’t been able to find anything saying this is true.
I have heard it from countless clients who live in blue states and what happens in their divorces compared to red state clients. You’re obviously a liberal and only believe what your tv tells you. So you assume everyone else with different views is lying or stupid.
"not that there's anything wrong with that" solid Seinfeld reference!
Not true.
Who’s he talking about
I can't believe its 11 minutes in to the video and he still ain't got to the story
Be more emotionally available.
You’re too emotional.
Men have no emotional life.
Same message from alpha poseurs.
who's the red pill leader, corey's talking about?....holy shit corey, you went off on a 5 minute diatribe on the red-pill community, wait, a second 5 minute diatribe
Rollo tomassi
Who is the guy. Hint......
I think it’s rollo
@@pete6498 thanks
Fresh and Fit.
I practice Jocko Willink extreme ownership, I watch Corey, and Rollo. I must be crazy! haha
corey straight up killed this guy lmao
You talking about rollo lol
I love your rants on those red pilled incels. Keep up Master Wayne. Ive seen those same incels, from those podcasts, having a one on one conversation with a beautiful dark skinned woman. Shes just asking them questions about women. When they answer her they come off as bitter, resentful and hateful. She just looks at them with pity.
I am sure Corey is talking about Rollo Tomassi