1960's CIA Issued Survival Balisong From Vietnam (A Cool Piece Of Knife History)
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Just saw an ad for these on eBay and it says “handle do not suffer from moist”. That’s good to know!!
Hmmm, Moist suffering....
I mean you could grind on it.
I never thought I would hear "balisong" and "Scandinavian grind" in the same sentence.
Trapper Scout lmao! I was gonna comment that and this is the 1st thing i see!
nor CIA
“Survival Balisong” is the best lol, hope you’re doing well Jeff.
Originals, real old ones, had aluminium handles with red plastic inserts.
My grandad gave me one of these from his days in the military
Dude what a cool knife. Just wanted to say I've been subscribed to you for nearly a decade because of your knife videos and it's awesome to see how you're still putting out the same content without any unnecessary flair or antics. Hope you're doing well my man.
I used to have one of these, but it was slightly different. The handles were black, and the blade was stainless steel with serrations on the spine.
I bought it from a flea market in the UK in the late 90s, and it was sold as a fishing knife.
The blade was a tight fit in the handles to prevent flipping, but a few swipes with some sandpaper in the handle slots and it worked perfectly.
The handles and latch were identical to the ones on your knife (except in black instead of orange)
These turn up at gun shows sometimes. I had the back model when I was a kid. Seems like the real ones would be of sterile nature but maybe not. Great upload!
Cool. Didn't know the military issued folding knives... Apart from the swiss multitool style knives from Germany and Swiss
This was part of a survival kit for its strength small size lightweight and lock design...
I believe the British army issued a folding lock-back knife, with a bottle opener and flathead screwdriver.
Berber 06 auto?
A lot of older survival kits contained folding knives, usally with a back lock.
@@colintorrey1442 gerber
I recognized that instantly from the thumbnail and had to click. I remember my father had this and often used it when fishing. I later bought some cheap copy from a flea market but it felt cheap too. If i needed this, i'd find and buy it but am too happy with my Leatherman. Your pronunciation was pretty good for a foreigner. Sorsa means a drake and Koski means rapids.
@@Leviathan-mj8gi Hopefully month is not too long to go into a more detail. Sorsakoski would literally mean Duck Rapids. Why does it have a silly surname? Almost all Finnish surnames are very new, and people mostly had a free choice on choosing what their surname would be. Most of them were named after the place they lived in, so my guess is some dude lived in a place that had a river and ducks.
The book also has an interesting Spy Versus Spy reference from the old Mad Magazine. Did anyone see it when he had the book open?
You young guys can google that one.
Love that little guy in the corner holding the "top secret" sign...
My granddad had these stored in a shelf (we live in finland) you were pretty close on the pronunciation. it would be said Pear-teh-met SOrsa-Cos--ki. I guess. close enough lol
haha thanks Im just bad at pronunciation thats all :)
@@cutlerylover the finnish language messes me up too. If you want to challenge yourself just try pronouncing anything with a y, ä, or ö. Ive been here 4 years and i have a hard time.
@@zillahero 'ö' as the vowel-sound in "burn", 'ä' like "bad". The 'y' sound, though...
I remember seeing these in the late 1970s early 80s at ACO hardware in the Detroit area with blue handles.
You say the lock is very secure because the handles would have to break, but with apparently unlined plastic handles that seems quite likely. It looks like the swivel pins are located only a fraction of an inch from the end of the handles, exactly where breakout would take place. Particularly since 1960s plastics weren't anywhere near as tough as those we have today.
I'm such a fan of old knives. Especially when they have some use on them! Cant wait to see the reviews!
Years ago, I tried so hard trying to flip the Hackman balis so hard. Neat piece though. And good score by the way.
Cool history, I like military history and knives and have been getting more into knife history lately. Hope all is well Jeff
The idea of a bushcraft bali is pretty cool. I'd love to see a nice modern version with maybe titanium or steel handles.
History is cool, thanks for the lesson
Cheers
Have the exact same knife, except it says “Fiskars Finland” on the handle and “Fiskars Stainless Finland” on the blade. I’ve had for 35 years and came across it used…Yours is the closest match I could find, am wondering what year mine was made, or any other info…thanks (Long Island, New York)
this is what I heard about these knife balisong or butterfly blade, or batangas knife The name "balisong" is derived from barangay (village) Balisong, part of the municipality of Taal, Batangas province, which along with the neighboring barangay Pandayan, were the original manufacturing centers of the knives in the Philippines.
I owned one of the Japanese knockoffs. I purchased it from Atlanta Cutlery back in the early 80's for, I believe $4.99 or 5.99. They advertised it as their "cheapest model" and it was! It had yellow handles and what looked like a fish scalier on the spine of the blade. The knife was really sharp and really light weight. But as with most childhood acquisitions it was lost between moves or somewhere in the back yard. I've thought of replacing it but never was able to find a path. Thanks for the renewed interest, because what I really need is another pocket knife. LOL
Just got an ad on this video using your voice for a game called Fix the item! From clown games. It was restoring a zippo
Please review the fairbairn sykes!! Longtime aussie fan
I'd love to have that in my collection. Very nice!
I had a similar Balisong when I was a kid. I remember the word Finland on it. The on;y differences it had, was the handle that was similar contoured only one slab, the other was straight if I'm not mistaken, and the blade was a full flat grind, but can't remember if it was drop poion or clip point. The steel probably was a stainless steel, with mat finish on it. It also had, the exact same closure system.
my grandpa has one just like this except the handles are black and it has a functional saw back on it
We had a few of the originals around the house when I was a kid. Bought a few of the reproductions a few years ago. The originals feel like they have much stronger handles, the new ones feel like they might just shatter (but supposedly they are the stronger of the two). Very good knives, if used together with common sense. Don't go out chopping or batoning with them. As for the weight, the CIA would have gotten more out of a traditional puukko of the same weight.
The Garcia people ( the same ones
that sold fishing reels and such)
used to sell these years ago before
all the butterfly knife hoopla.
They were widely available in the
USA, and not anything secret.
I have an identical one sitting right
here I gave maybe 8 or 9 dollars
for. I think that was retail or right
at it. The handles are nylon meant
to reduce weight in your pocket.
The blade is a very sharp superior
piece of good quality steel.
This were definitely NOT made to
be flipped open rapidly. I also have
an original butterfly knife my father
brought back from his military service from overseas. It is definitely
made for flipping open. The Hackman Garcia knife is made
for hunting and outdoor use and
not for spy killing. Ken Warner wrote
in The Practical Book of Knives a
page or two about the Hackman
Garcia outdoor knife
At first I thought that handles might have been Bakelite but after seeing the flex they are probably some type of nylon.
Jeff, have you ever reviewed the “Side-Winder” Balisong from Super Knife? It’s a weird budget knife from China with flat handles that fold out from the flat part of the blade side to side instead of top to bottom like traditional balisongs. I’ve also seen it referred to as the “Flapjack Flipper.”
Never mind. Found your old review on it here: m.th-cam.com/video/uwFYoB80IAc/w-d-xo.html
10 years ago. Wow!
Hey Jeff do you still have this knife? I want to buy yours please!!
Balisongs can be more robust that folders so an idea of scandi-balisong seems like a great option for a compact outdoors knife. Too bad in my country there is a 9cm blade length limit for balisongs 😔
My dad has the older hackman balisong that he got when he was 11 years old
Your pronunciation of Sorsakoski was pretty good. Greetings from Finland!
I bought one of these - advertised as a "puukko balisong" - from Brookstone, back in the early eighties.
I really like these videos about knife history
Sorsakoski is almost pronounced as you said but the O is an O like in Offender.
COOL, my POP's got me 2 of these butterflies back in the early 80's . There labeled HACKMAN FINLAND. I STILL GOT THEM, A VERY TREASURED PART OF MY KNIFE COLLECTION. Got turned onto to butterflies after watching The BIG BRAWL with JACKIE CHAN at the Drive in Theater. Thanks a lot of GOOD MEMORIES 👍👍👍👍😎
I owned one of these in high school in the 80's!
I didn't know this until now, it use it as a light edc. I don't beat the hell out of it because i like the way it handles and comfort not to mention the lock on it is amazing it is still in good shape and i've never sharpened it, My step dad got it for me when i was like 12 or 13 i'm 17 now and respect the way i use knives a lot more than i did when i was 12. I carry this knife and a cheap S&W extreme ops one for a beater.
Sweet! I’d like to find one of these.
Is the Japanese one you’re talking about the Daiwa Type 2 Fishing Knife? How’d you come across one? Rakuten won’t ship it overseas and some schmos on ebay are charging $280+ for it...
wal-mart used to carry them before they were illegal in most locations.
That is really cool! Thanks Man. Awesome for a bugout bag. Enjoy
This was awesome.
Wow thats very neat
I really like this knife. Simple and pretty.
I had an original Hackman knife and the handles were WAY too tight to flip when I got it, so I wrapped the blade in tape and forced the handles closed on the blade and put the whole thing into a pot of boiling water for a while and that loosened it up enough to flip.
I think I paid about $15 for it back in the day.
Interesting piece.
I'd really like to see more stuff from the book
there are sanitized versions of this knife with black handles and no markings on it ..or occasionally "stainless china" ..but obviously much better than average steel and the stamping looks iffy
i need to see a pro flipper flip one of these things lol
got one edc Hackmann and greetings from finland
I also know where there are some Original Japanese ones, New Old Stock, still in the Original Boxes...
I wonder if that nub that prevents it being flicked open \shut effectively would make it exempt in UK law
“It is illegal to bring into the UK, sell, hire, lend or give anyone the following:
butterfly knives (also known as ‘balisongs’) - a blade hidden inside a handle that splits in the middle.”
It doesn’t mention flipping or non-flipping so it looks like this one would be illegal since the blade is hidden in the handle.
ok but does it have tap
I bet the prices on these knives will go up quite a bit after this video...😉😉
Nice vid...heard of these never seen one though.
Interesting, I had a cheap fishing knife in the 80s with that handle shape.
It looks like the Spyderco Shaman but it was molded into a balisong.
I really like the scandi grind and would love to get one of those nut i live in canada so jokes on me
I scored a black one a few years ago and picked it up just because I thought it was an interesting knife. It's really beat up tho
Thats so cool.
I was on a military fixed blade kick a few years ago
Half of my pots and pans are made by Hackman. I wasn't aware they made knives apart from table cutlery.
ive seen and actually handled one of these before. I am a former tsa officer and was looking at bags on my xray when a bag came on screen. i was sitting there looking at it because something looked odd. i thought i saw a knife without a handle. so i reran the bag and sure enough there was a blade but no handle. so i called the bag and had to check it. thats when i found the weird rubber/plastic fold out handles. needless to say i had never seen one before much less knew it was this.
I had one when I was a kid.
Cool knife
I bought an identical knife back in the 80's, made by Bear and Son . ( it was also red)
@r4rev2 most enthusiasts don't recommend Bear and Son. If you want a cheap EDC check out the Kershaw Lucha.
This has probably been answered already but, I also live in pa and I was wondering if I can buy a auto knife online and ship it to my address? Is it legal to buy one?
No there illegal look up pa knife laws same with flipper knives and gravity knives and others
I would double check here in California my understanding is that you can own them just not carry them, but it could be different for you guys
You can keep them in your private collection as “curios.” The cops in PA don’t really hassle people about their knives. They only care if you’re carrying it while committing a crime or acting suspicious.
Haven’t heard about flipper or gravity knives ever being a problem in PA. You can legally carry pretty much anything here except autos.
@@undergroundexplorer8378 this is mostly true but I live by a department well let's just say even the fbi had to come and make a arrest on a officer there terrible in my area but everything I seen online in the past said that flippers and gravity knives were illegal but I just re looked it up on a couple websites and it appears that you are correct
Wow, thanks for info!😀
Why🧐
It's like the predecessor of the Gerber Double Down
I've seen some o' these that were Marked Abu Garcia...
I had one of these almost identical.
CIA having balisongs come on now
Meet the spy
USA edition
I feel like the handle probably wouldn't be that strong for a survival knife compared to say an aluminium alloy handle
Cool!
Yeah I got a lucky find as well please look at my TH-cam video I was at a pawn shop and I bought a bundle of knives for 50 bucks which is a lot more than I wanted to spend and I found a 1970s these butterfly knife that looks just like that one but it's black and stainless Taiwan and I was completely mind blown that it's worth $180
When you are a professional with butterfly knife but you got drafted to Vietnam
I have a legit one, given to me by my uncle. Have to digg it out give it a second look.
Hi Jeff , I have a small YABO coming your way....
Ive bought what, dozen of those, priciest was about 12 Euros.
Balisong is a folding knife from the Philippines
Do an vidio on the swedich Gnosjö knife that balison is unik
Finns make incredible knives.
Cool
Man that's cool as hell I dig it ide like to find some military pocket knives lol
I love balisongs
Man I really want this knife, really. My Dad had one just like this one, but black in the 80’s. He used to keep it in his car. Sadly when he passed away, his belongs were stolen. I never got to see his stuff again. I was 9 at the time, 40 today. I tried to search for many years for this knife, but never found one. Any help? Thanks. Much appreciated.
So That's a Filipino-Finnish Knife.
Filipino-Finnish Knife: Perkele ang Ina Mo!
Fried chicken
Its a fiskars butterfly knife
Skandi-song! Ha
That things Awesome
why the fuck does old mate at my work have one of these in his smoko box
i think the name would be pronounced "sor-suh-koss-key"
Yes, this is pretty spot on.
Lmao im finnish and ive seen some never versions of those but they has black plastic also Sorsakoski is pronounced sor-sah-co-ski
Source-a-cow-skee!
well finlands not part of skandinavia but its all right
That thing is minty