The setup and aesthetics of each of the factions are so cool in the war. The way noxian soldiers use shield walls and crossbows to shoot and scoot while the ship based artillery helping clear out strong points and sniping positions. While the piltover has the barricades for shields similar to trenches in ww1 and gas grenades. While their artillery is just a hex tech machine shooting what seems to be a shipping container or something like it. I really love sci fi and fantasy warfare. Its so cool
Piltover tactics appear to be their riot suppression tactics they used to success against their rebellious underbelly. Evidently, it does not seem to have the same kind of effectiveness against an actually disciplined and coordinated opponent.
@@akedus44 That's right. The Enforcers are more of a police force than a military force. No wonder they couldn't be as effective against an army like the Noxians.
@@akedus44exactly but still they could have used the gas grenades more often since their forces are well equipped with gas masks while the noxians are not
Some factors to take into account: _They had a traitor in their ranks, who could give them information about the defenses and locations, and that Ambessa is not an idiot, she was a military genius who had already been in the city and had her contacts. _Piltover and Zaun fought each other as police and protesters, never something as serious as a siege battle. _The Noxians had weapons and armor for battle, experience and discipline. _I think there was also little time for much more preparation, and that Zaun joined the fight when the city practically fell. Basically it is sending the police of your country and some civilians to fight against already experienced soldiers. Edit:Rip Loris,best drinking buddy
Your point about sci fi and fantasy warfare is spot on for me as well. Reminds me of Paradis vs Marley in Attack on Titan. Realistic weaponry and tactics combined with fantasy elements. So interesting.
@@imperialtrooper927 True but youd think that after facing a rebellion of Zaun people who were (probably) just as well armed as they are you would think they would be more skilled or smth. Then again this arguement can easily be countered so feel free to reply said arguement then we can spark a small debate in here for the funs 👍
The outcome of the fight is pretty clear since piltover enforcer troops are more used in crowdcontrol than war despite having advance tech(since piltover is more on advancing than war)while noxian troops are well trained and have experience many battles
The wildest part is that this is piltover first every siege, they only had inner city conflicts. Not only that ambessa is literally only a single general with her own ambitions, imagine if noxus decided to actually throw numbers in that fight.
@@smellmyclock Which make me wonder what happen if Darius and Swain arrive to claim the city. Then again they couldn’t wasted troop because of Demacia.
@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 honestly theyd wipe the floor with everyone lol But if I remember correctly, they can’t put all their eggs in one basket cus they’re spread across Demacia and Ionia, as well as trying to stop mordekaiser (bros a world ending entity lmao) from destroying noxus
They are probably saving the best of Noxus to show in a fight for the next series which would be against Ionia, since their wars were on a much larger scale, here we only saw about 5-6 ships and a few different armies, for Ionia they used everything
that opening has to be the best war scene I've seen in animation. The chaos and intensity of the cinematography (couldn't think of a way to not make that rhyme) is like something out of saving private ryan or all quiet on the western front
everyone pretty much knows that noxia is a warring empire, but plitover only has a police force, not a seasoned military, and looks like this was their first war against a different nation, pretty cool. if they make more series based around the world of arcane, maybe we might get to visit and piltover having a more solid military, or maybe just a branch of the Enforcers specialized for such scenarios, that would be cool world building.
@@nosense8744 They weren't hitting shit with those boxes lol If they were filled with explosives then it might be worth it but they were using pure kinetic so the best you'd get is a blast of shrapnel, perfect against a large formation of infantry but very inaccurate at distance(its a fucking box lol).
Maybe, but the Noxian warships had cannons of their own. Keeping the Noxian guns occupied and wiping out any reserves they could aboard the ships seemed to be the objective of the Hexgate operators.
Awesome war scene. They took inspiration from a lot of battles throughout history and movies. Vi running through the madness felt like the og and remake of All Quiet on the Western Front. The infantry looked “dug in” like trenches from WW1 The Noxians were advancing to a meat grinder like it’s Stalingrad I believe the Noxian formations looked like Zulu Bull Horns Cait in a bell tower and getting shot at by artillery like Saving Private Ryan Artillery being used overall Madarda having her own 300 moment Great scene
Noxus has the initiative as they had been planning for an invasion and Piltover was not. They also are inside many of Piltover's defenses, have an agent on the inside feeding them info as well as sabotaging their efforts. Noxus has more troops who are better trained for this style of combat and MUCH more experienced and some special equipment to use (bulletproof shields and such) that counter Piltover's main advantage. Noxus also has shipborne breach loading artillery while we don't see many, if any, Piltover guns and from earlier in the series they are old fashioned black power cannon and way out of date. Noxus had nearly every advantage against Piltover. Jinx and the Zaun forces only managed to do damage because they caught the Noxus forces by surprise and turned into a disorganized melee (Which oddly the Piltover troops probably would have handled better than the Noxus ones). sm
The story of that one Zaunite needs more attention. We see her leaving, ready to move on and let it all burn. But we see her turn around and enlist. Only to die fighting, who knows if she was able to die for something, or if she was just able to die. Wasnt expecting arcane to nail the "War is hell" point so well.
bro i was a big fan of the enforcers during season 1, i was hoping they would still be badass in season 2 but they were totally humiliated, yes i know they weren't the good guys in the story and noxus has great warriors but i was hoping they could have done more here, i don't think they even managed to kill a single noxus soldier (at least i didn't see any corpses on the ground) it hurts me that they were humiliated like that
Bc Piltover are a peaceful nation and haven't gone to war while Noxus are a nation that are always at war The Enforcers are just armed police while Noxian soldiers are seasoned war soldiers Which means the Piltover have no military soldier and only have polices only Plus their tactics are more like riot instead of typical military tactics Plus this is the first time the Enforcers fight in a war
To be honest if you know lore well you would know that they nerfed Noxus. I supose that its only an army of Ambessa soldiers because Noxian troops such as shield breakers or undead legions would destroy piltover within minutes of the fight. You can check REAL Noxian army troops and legions in legends of runnetera
I friggin LOVE how competent everyone is in this battle. Tho while I was wondering how the Noxians are winning against the Enforcers armed with guns while they rely on crossbows and more primitive close combat weapons. Thinking about it, Piltover is relatively peaceful, and Enforcers are mainly tasked with police work, meanwhile, Noxus and it's people is built on war and conquest, so they should have the better strategies and tactics built on superior battle experience. Tho having said that... I hate the face plates the Noxians wear for battle. The Enforcers can wear full body protection, but the best Noxian soldiers can wear for battle are face plates?
As it has be said before the enforcers are a police peacekeeping Force not equipped or trained to fight a conventional war while ambessas troops were brought up in a nation that values strength and the military each one was likely a veteran soldier with weapons and tactics that the enforcers just never had to deal with plus the soldiers enhanced by viktor just made it more difficult.
I felt they made Piltover TOO weak. Sure, I get it, noxians are warmongers and live for the battle, while Piltover only had like a police force. But still, we don't seem to see a single noxian soldier being killed or injured by an enforcer from Piltover (minus the main characters), and those hextech cannon things were useless. I would have preferred seeing them put up more of a fight
You know what I personally LOVE about this scenes? "I was recently reminded what brought us together in the first place, the enemy behind our walls" People from both top and bottom fight together, they try to help each other, they don't have even 1 bad interaction with each other this whole episode. Even the guy that hit Mel at ep1 was there too, they really ignored every bad thing happening between them to fight, just like Jayce said!
I really love the snap cut to the thick of the battle. Theres no build up where maybe theyre doing okay as it ramps up, were thrown right into the slaughter. Technology be damned, piltover has a peacekeeper force, Noxus has an army.
Piltover doesn’t have a military. They’re more of a police force to keep order. Whereas Noxus has an actual military where they’re pretty much trained like Spartan warriors to conquer and defend
The reason hextech container launcher was almost useless: This weapon is mostly inspired by hexgate 1 noxus ships were heavly armored 2 slow reload rate 3 the launched objects werent tough enough even empowered with hextech magic to penetrate ships
At this point i wonder why all nations don't work together to destroy Noxus Jonia hate Noxus Piltover and Zaun will be glad to strike back Demacia have enough reasons to invade Noxus Damn, even Targon and Freljord could join to destroy Noxus
Remember, Noxus itself is a war fortress. Invading it alone will take so much resource. They made Noxus like a maze for enemies to get lost in. Also, aren't Demacia and Noxus already at war with each other?
@@Em3erblue Yeah which is why they couldn’t send any more of their force here. Honestly what happen if Darius himself or even Swain arrive at Piltover with their elites army.
@@Em3erblue Even with Hextech and Zaun too. They can’t survive against the full might of Noxus. Luckily if Noxus do they would have to abandon the Demacia front. Which is unacceptable.
@@brotherhoodz97 eh steampunk repeater rifles and those barricades weren't shit, Ambessa ripped one apart with like zero effort 😂 I agree with you bro, I'm just saying piltover was still at a major disadvantage overall.
Probably because they're mad heavy and Hextech can propel it at incredibly high speed. Hextech was also never weaponized on a mass scale, so Piltover's defenders are likely working with whatever domestic and industrial materials they have at hand.
They don’t have any actual defenses - enforcers are basically just cops and have zero experience fighting an actual battle and hextech was only weaponized at a small scale
I call BS on rictus’ stupid little keychain being able to outright stop a hex tech rail gun, sniper rifle, idk wtf to call it. The only thing that kept Ambessa alive was plot armor. Plain and simple.
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The setup and aesthetics of each of the factions are so cool in the war. The way noxian soldiers use shield walls and crossbows to shoot and scoot while the ship based artillery helping clear out strong points and sniping positions. While the piltover has the barricades for shields similar to trenches in ww1 and gas grenades. While their artillery is just a hex tech machine shooting what seems to be a shipping container or something like it. I really love sci fi and fantasy warfare. Its so cool
Piltover tactics appear to be their riot suppression tactics they used to success against their rebellious underbelly. Evidently, it does not seem to have the same kind of effectiveness against an actually disciplined and coordinated opponent.
@@akedus44 That's right. The Enforcers are more of a police force than a military force. No wonder they couldn't be as effective against an army like the Noxians.
@@akedus44exactly but still they could have used the gas grenades more often since their forces are well equipped with gas masks while the noxians are not
Some factors to take into account:
_They had a traitor in their ranks, who could give them information about the defenses and locations, and that Ambessa is not an idiot, she was a military genius who had already been in the city and had her contacts.
_Piltover and Zaun fought each other as police and protesters, never something as serious as a siege battle.
_The Noxians had weapons and armor for battle, experience and discipline.
_I think there was also little time for much more preparation, and that Zaun joined the fight when the city practically fell.
Basically it is sending the police of your country and some civilians to fight against already experienced soldiers.
Edit:Rip Loris,best drinking buddy
Your point about sci fi and fantasy warfare is spot on for me as well. Reminds me of Paradis vs Marley in Attack on Titan. Realistic weaponry and tactics combined with fantasy elements. So interesting.
Enforcers when they don't have to fight homeless people:
Nah fr they get straight up cooked
The Noxian soldiers are an actual army tho, unlike the Enforcers who are basically the police in Piltover
You don't know nothing about Noxus... They born to be soldiers 💀
@@imperialtrooper927 They're more like a gendarmerie
@@imperialtrooper927 True but youd think that after facing a rebellion of Zaun people who were (probably) just as well armed as they are you would think they would be more skilled or smth. Then again this arguement can easily be countered so feel free to reply said arguement then we can spark a small debate in here for the funs 👍
I cant get over how cool ambessa is. Shes way to cool. And her VA makes her so much better
The outcome of the fight is pretty clear since piltover enforcer troops are more used in crowdcontrol than war despite having advance tech(since piltover is more on advancing than war)while noxian troops are well trained and have experience many battles
The wildest part is that this is piltover first every siege, they only had inner city conflicts. Not only that ambessa is literally only a single general with her own ambitions, imagine if noxus decided to actually throw numbers in that fight.
It’s not just regular noxian troops
This is ambessas personal army, an elite bunch
@@smellmyclock Which make me wonder what happen if Darius and Swain arrive to claim the city.
Then again they couldn’t wasted troop because of Demacia.
@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 honestly theyd wipe the floor with everyone lol
But if I remember correctly, they can’t put all their eggs in one basket cus they’re spread across Demacia and Ionia, as well as trying to stop mordekaiser (bros a world ending entity lmao) from destroying noxus
@@smellmyclock And there's janna and Camille
They said that the original version was a much longer fight. Can we have a movie long special of just the war.
I wish we had that like the Bad Batch
They are probably saving the best of Noxus to show in a fight for the next series which would be against Ionia, since their wars were on a much larger scale, here we only saw about 5-6 ships and a few different armies, for Ionia they used everything
that opening has to be the best war scene I've seen in animation. The chaos and intensity of the cinematography (couldn't think of a way to not make that rhyme) is like something out of saving private ryan or all quiet on the western front
everyone pretty much knows that noxia is a warring empire, but plitover only has a police force, not a seasoned military, and looks like this was their first war against a different nation, pretty cool.
if they make more series based around the world of arcane, maybe we might get to visit and piltover having a more solid military, or maybe just a branch of the Enforcers specialized for such scenarios, that would be cool world building.
They probably should have been shooting those containers at the advancing infantry lol
Strategic not included in this battle, but vis look so good
I mean, either way Noxus artillery would decimate them, I think they were aiming towards the Artillery since that was Noxus main advantage
@@nosense8744 They weren't hitting shit with those boxes lol If they were filled with explosives then it might be worth it but they were using pure kinetic so the best you'd get is a blast of shrapnel, perfect against a large formation of infantry but very inaccurate at distance(its a fucking box lol).
@@yomaster12345 The "artillery" position was not visible to the Noxian infantry and was fixed, facing towards the port.
Maybe, but the Noxian warships had cannons of their own. Keeping the Noxian guns occupied and wiping out any reserves they could aboard the ships seemed to be the objective of the Hexgate operators.
Awesome war scene. They took inspiration from a lot of battles throughout history and movies.
Vi running through the madness felt like the og and remake of All Quiet on the Western Front.
The infantry looked “dug in” like trenches from WW1
The Noxians were advancing to a meat grinder like it’s Stalingrad
I believe the Noxian formations looked like Zulu Bull Horns
Cait in a bell tower and getting shot at by artillery like Saving Private Ryan
Artillery being used overall
Madarda having her own 300 moment
Great scene
This battle scene also reminded me a lot of the Siege of Gondor from LOTR: The Return of the King
Noxus has the initiative as they had been planning for an invasion and Piltover was not. They also are inside many of Piltover's defenses, have an agent on the inside feeding them info as well as sabotaging their efforts. Noxus has more troops who are better trained for this style of combat and MUCH more experienced and some special equipment to use (bulletproof shields and such) that counter Piltover's main advantage. Noxus also has shipborne breach loading artillery while we don't see many, if any, Piltover guns and from earlier in the series they are old fashioned black power cannon and way out of date. Noxus had nearly every advantage against Piltover. Jinx and the Zaun forces only managed to do damage because they caught the Noxus forces by surprise and turned into a disorganized melee (Which oddly the Piltover troops probably would have handled better than the Noxus ones). sm
The story of that one Zaunite needs more attention.
We see her leaving, ready to move on and let it all burn. But we see her turn around and enlist. Only to die fighting, who knows if she was able to die for something, or if she was just able to die.
Wasnt expecting arcane to nail the "War is hell" point so well.
I loved this war part
Same. The war is brutal and cool.
This was supposed to be like That all this season between piltoZaun
Cops versus soldiers. Piltover getting any win out of this a miracle.
bro i was a big fan of the enforcers during season 1, i was hoping they would still be badass in season 2 but they were totally humiliated, yes i know they weren't the good guys in the story and noxus has great warriors but i was hoping they could have done more here, i don't think they even managed to kill a single noxus soldier (at least i didn't see any corpses on the ground)
it hurts me that they were humiliated like that
Bc Piltover are a peaceful nation and haven't gone to war while Noxus are a nation that are always at war
The Enforcers are just armed police while Noxian soldiers are seasoned war soldiers
Which means the Piltover have no military soldier and only have polices only
Plus their tactics are more like riot instead of typical military tactics
Plus this is the first time the Enforcers fight in a war
Honestly same, I felt that they made Piltover TOO weak for the plot
To be honest if you know lore well you would know that they nerfed Noxus. I supose that its only an army of Ambessa soldiers because Noxian troops such as shield breakers or undead legions would destroy piltover within minutes of the fight. You can check REAL Noxian army troops and legions in legends of runnetera
@@Centurio_1the thing is they were outnumbered, the Noxus soldiers had better armor and they had moles in their ranks
Wow... that guy literally kept shooting the shipping containers until someone shot him off screen, right?
That’s war lol
I friggin LOVE how competent everyone is in this battle.
Tho while I was wondering how the Noxians are winning against the Enforcers armed with guns while they rely on crossbows and more primitive close combat weapons. Thinking about it, Piltover is relatively peaceful, and Enforcers are mainly tasked with police work, meanwhile, Noxus and it's people is built on war and conquest, so they should have the better strategies and tactics built on superior battle experience. Tho having said that... I hate the face plates the Noxians wear for battle. The Enforcers can wear full body protection, but the best Noxian soldiers can wear for battle are face plates?
As it has be said before the enforcers are a police peacekeeping Force not equipped or trained to fight a conventional war while ambessas troops were brought up in a nation that values strength and the military each one was likely a veteran soldier with weapons and tactics that the enforcers just never had to deal with plus the soldiers enhanced by viktor just made it more difficult.
I felt they made Piltover TOO weak. Sure, I get it, noxians are warmongers and live for the battle, while Piltover only had like a police force. But still, we don't seem to see a single noxian soldier being killed or injured by an enforcer from Piltover (minus the main characters), and those hextech cannon things were useless. I would have preferred seeing them put up more of a fight
@@Centurio_1because their gear was tougher
The Noxians are also attacking directly from their ships. Their options are limited when they're launching marine landings.
You know what I personally LOVE about this scenes?
"I was recently reminded what brought us together in the first place, the enemy behind our walls"
People from both top and bottom fight together, they try to help each other, they don't have even 1 bad interaction with each other this whole episode. Even the guy that hit Mel at ep1 was there too, they really ignored every bad thing happening between them to fight, just like Jayce said!
I really love the snap cut to the thick of the battle. Theres no build up where maybe theyre doing okay as it ramps up, were thrown right into the slaughter. Technology be damned, piltover has a peacekeeper force, Noxus has an army.
I'm so glad to see my girl Shoola remained in Piltover to help organize the defense of the city. 0:29
This war scene goes hard
I love the fact that despite the Piltover Enforcers having guns, they lost to roman esque battle tactics.
Piltover doesn’t have a military. They’re more of a police force to keep order. Whereas Noxus has an actual military where they’re pretty much trained like Spartan warriors to conquer and defend
Industrial revolution
Amazing
One of Piltover main advantage like rifles and guns became almost worthless against Noxus bulletproof shields
Imagine Darius was there
Fawless victory for Noxus
It would be cool to see him and Jayce 1v1
2:08 - 2:13 “Parker, GET OUT!!!”
The reason hextech container launcher was almost useless:
This weapon is mostly inspired by hexgate
1 noxus ships were heavly armored
2 slow reload rate
3 the launched objects werent tough enough even empowered with hextech magic to penetrate ships
They would’ve been better throwing the containers at the noxian troops lol
At this point i wonder why all nations don't work together to destroy Noxus
Jonia hate Noxus
Piltover and Zaun will be glad to strike back
Demacia have enough reasons to invade Noxus
Damn, even Targon and Freljord could join to destroy Noxus
Remember, Noxus itself is a war fortress. Invading it alone will take so much resource. They made Noxus like a maze for enemies to get lost in.
Also, aren't Demacia and Noxus already at war with each other?
@@Em3erblue Yeah which is why they couldn’t send any more of their force here.
Honestly what happen if Darius himself or even Swain arrive at Piltover with their elites army.
@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 i don't think Piltover would survive. They never faced such a force.
@@Em3erblue Even with Hextech and Zaun too. They can’t survive against the full might of Noxus.
Luckily if Noxus do they would have to abandon the Demacia front. Which is unacceptable.
Ambessa's kaenic rookern can absorb AD damage. I need that ingame 😂
Is it possible to get this without the subtitles? Also how did you record it?
noxus beat a magic victorian utopia with swords. took noxus shadow cabal and a bitch to make them leave. neither zaun nor piltover deserve to exist.
In all fairness the piltover forces are essentially just riot police, Noxus has highly trained soldiers born and bred for combat and war
@ they have guns, in entrenched positions with magic artillery.
@@brotherhoodz97 eh steampunk repeater rifles and those barricades weren't shit, Ambessa ripped one apart with like zero effort 😂 I agree with you bro, I'm just saying piltover was still at a major disadvantage overall.
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The Enforcers are just cops. Ambessa's Noxian soldiers are from the greatest military power in Runeterra.
....why were they shooting shipping containers!? Like its just weird.
Probably because they're mad heavy and Hextech can propel it at incredibly high speed. Hextech was also never weaponized on a mass scale, so Piltover's defenders are likely working with whatever domestic and industrial materials they have at hand.
@@Maland-e8r i think they are just using the exportals to do it lol
That's called improvising.
They don’t have any actual defenses - enforcers are basically just cops and have zero experience fighting an actual battle and hextech was only weaponized at a small scale
If you pay attention, they look more like a detonation charge with that container shape, upon impact they explode
I call BS on rictus’ stupid little keychain being able to outright stop a hex tech rail gun, sniper rifle, idk wtf to call it. The only thing that kept Ambessa alive was plot armor. Plain and simple.