@@westmcgee9320 technically if I include the cost of AppleCare and that I got a 1TB model, it comes out to about $4500 lol But yeah the base model is $3500 in the US but different prices in different countries
@@TrentonsTech you can absolutely do all that but I didn’t get Apple Care. It’s optional. Accessories are optional. I think it’s only fair to either state the actual base model price or qualify the statement, clarifying that it includes the accessories you chose, the coverage you opted into, and maybe the taxes.
19:43 You got your sub. I love my AVP and use it daily. There are things you’ve said here with which I might quibble or disagree but the thought process is so solid as compared to so many other AVP reviews, even after 6 months, that I didn’t really feel moved to comment on much of it. Not even sure what the rest of your content tends to be about but I guess I’ll find out. I was glad to see someone mention the color and material, along with its potential to get stained or dingy. I’d love for Apple to address that. That said, I’m cool with the battery life.
I love my AVP. Main use case is media consumption, especially when travelling. For work it's great when I need multiple windows open, even better than my Apple Display in this specific situation. At $4500+ though it's niche for sure. Once its cheaper it will cannibalise the iPad.
It won't cannibalize the iPad. Most people don't want to wear a HEADSET. That's the reason Apple Vision Pro isn't selling well. It's not because of the $3,500 price. The headset can cost $1,000 or less and it still won't sell very well. iPad has its own target audience. Vision Pro has its own target audience. If anything, people want Smart Glasses. Not a HEADSET.
I love mine but recognize that I’m the edge case that this product is for right now. I’m more excited about where the Vision products will be in 5 to 10 years than worried about the current limitations. The foundation that Apple has laid down is solid and they have a strong vision of where to take Spatial computing. I plan to buy the new M4 Mac Mini to partner with it and retire/sell my old Intel iMac and MacBook Pro. I haven’t used my Quest 2 or 3 since I got the AVP and I’d sell them if they were worth anything on the use marketplace but they’re not.
Great review. As an AVP owner, I agree with much of what you said here. I love the machine. It's amazing. I just want it to do more. Assume it will with time. But I want it now! I bought mine now because I wanted to start watching spatial video of my kids asap. I've really enjoyed it for that. Took some spatial vids in Hawaii... and watching them back on the AVP reminds me of what it was like to be there, much more so than a regular video does.
I agree. Apple needs more. I absolutely love my AVP and won’t sell it but immersive youtube VR and more apple immersive experiences are needed. Plus, they need to create the perfect light seal which won’t make you feel like you’re looking through binoculars. I modified mine to have nearly max field of vision. I get it……Apple is learning but needs some work.
I would like some some kind of shared experience. Eg. If I set up a virtual screen in my room, someone else with their own Vision Pro can see the screen if they walk into my room. And we can watch a movie together. (Once these are affordable that is)
Content, Content, Content… Apple needs to invest in content and getting developers to continue to develop. There’s no reason we don’t have a live baseball or football game yet on vision.
The Vision Pro is the Mac Pro of “I”XxxOS products. Announced with accessories once. Kept in the lineup at the same price with no discounts or upgrades for years.
@@jessel.8697 The resolution is great. I am not a coder but the work I do requires quite a bit of reading. I am able to read text comfortably without straining my eyes.
@@jessel.8697 The resolution is great with Mac Mirroring and has been fantastic for reading text. I do not code but I read a ton of journal articles and do a lot of writing. I can work/read for hours with very little eye strain. The resolution not been an issue at all.
The most important feature to me is Virtual Mac Display. It’s pretty good, but they need to fix some really important things. The biggest problem is the Input Temporarily Not Working error. That has to never happen. The second thing is more screen real estate. Personally, I would rather have the anticipated wide curved screen than multiple monitors for two reasons. Primarily, I think real monitors are flat for manufacturing reasons. Virtual screens don’t have that limitation. They should be projected onto a sphere so every pixel is equidistant from my eyes. Making a giant flat screen is a pain trying to access the corners because they are so much further away and at an oblique angle. The second reason is that I don’t like multiple monitors with the MacOS because the menu only appears on one of them. It’s really annoying trying to interact with a window when the menu bar is not there.
@@TrentonsTech Using the AVP outside is amazing. There is literally no screen glare. No problems with bright sun. Using apps on it versus trying to use an iPhone screen in the sun is so much better. Obviously, the iPhone has my entire life on it, but the best feature would be if Apple did the iPhone remote (that is happening on the Mac in iOS 18) on the AVP. It is so important to have that feature. To be clear, the AVP will get iPhone screen mirroring, but you still need to interact with the phone screen. The Mac will allow interacting with the phone directly.
17:43 - 19:28 how is it that every person who didn't return their Vision Pro (and isn't like just some clerical fanboy) is saying this exact same thing about Vision Pro?
These are not cons. The Quest went through the same thing. That's why they release so many updates. This device is not for everyone . It is a computer not a vr headset
Just calling it like I see it, you are welcome to disagree. If people still want to buy it Im completely fine with that, but I'm just sharing my experience
For me, the price isn't the problem. It's what you DON'T GET for that price that's the problem. Vision Pro doesn't even have Wi-Fi 6E in 2024 when Wi-Fi 7 devices already exist. That's embarrassing. 🤣🤣🤣
exactly my sentiments. so many features and content marketed but updates are far inbetween. if it were truly a "spatial computer" then windows would "lock into place". having to reposition windows/objects is the main obstacle for me. Steve Jobs definitely would have addressed that by now.
I'm not a fan of "Steve Jobs would have...". He let *plenty* of things slide for years. It took iPhone, a product with far more customers, a full year to get 3G, copy and paste, an App Store, Exchange, GPS and 2 years to get a video camera and a compass. We're 6 months into Vision Pro.
Replace $4500 with $3500, not sure why I said $4500 so many times 😂
I haven’t finished the video yet but this has happened a lot lately.
People haven’t been saying it’s $5000.
Not sure why.
@@westmcgee9320 technically if I include the cost of AppleCare and that I got a 1TB model, it comes out to about $4500 lol
But yeah the base model is $3500 in the US but different prices in different countries
@@TrentonsTech you can absolutely do all that but I didn’t get Apple Care. It’s optional.
Accessories are optional.
I think it’s only fair to either state the actual base model price or qualify the statement, clarifying that it includes the accessories you chose, the coverage you opted into, and maybe the taxes.
19:43 You got your sub.
I love my AVP and use it daily. There are things you’ve said here with which I might quibble or disagree but the thought process is so solid as compared to so many other AVP reviews, even after 6 months, that I didn’t really feel moved to comment on much of it.
Not even sure what the rest of your content tends to be about but I guess I’ll find out.
I was glad to see someone mention the color and material, along with its potential to get stained or dingy. I’d love for Apple to address that.
That said, I’m cool with the battery life.
I love my AVP. Main use case is media consumption, especially when travelling. For work it's great when I need multiple windows open, even better than my Apple Display in this specific situation. At $4500+ though it's niche for sure. Once its cheaper it will cannibalise the iPad.
It won't cannibalize the iPad. Most people don't want to wear a HEADSET. That's the reason Apple Vision Pro isn't selling well. It's not because of the $3,500 price. The headset can cost $1,000 or less and it still won't sell very well.
iPad has its own target audience.
Vision Pro has its own target audience.
If anything, people want Smart Glasses. Not a HEADSET.
It’s $3500.
Not sure why video after video and, in this case, even the commenters keep saying otherwise.
I love my AVP but am not a Mac guy.
So, our use-cases differ a bit.
I agree that for a flight, it’s killer.
That’s an expensive Disney + machine😂
I love mine but recognize that I’m the edge case that this product is for right now. I’m more excited about where the Vision products will be in 5 to 10 years than worried about the current limitations. The foundation that Apple has laid down is solid and they have a strong vision of where to take Spatial computing. I plan to buy the new M4 Mac Mini to partner with it and retire/sell my old Intel iMac and MacBook Pro. I haven’t used my Quest 2 or 3 since I got the AVP and I’d sell them if they were worth anything on the use marketplace but they’re not.
Great review. As an AVP owner, I agree with much of what you said here. I love the machine. It's amazing. I just want it to do more. Assume it will with time. But I want it now! I bought mine now because I wanted to start watching spatial video of my kids asap. I've really enjoyed it for that. Took some spatial vids in Hawaii... and watching them back on the AVP reminds me of what it was like to be there, much more so than a regular video does.
I agree. Apple needs more. I absolutely love my AVP and won’t sell it but immersive youtube VR and more apple immersive experiences are needed. Plus, they need to create the perfect light seal which won’t make you feel like you’re looking through binoculars. I modified mine to have nearly max field of vision. I get it……Apple is learning but needs some work.
I would like some some kind of shared experience. Eg. If I set up a virtual screen in my room, someone else with their own Vision Pro can see the screen if they walk into my room. And we can watch a movie together. (Once these are affordable that is)
2:11 I loosen it even more and wear it around my neck sometimes for a more secure, maybe longer term solution.
Content, Content, Content… Apple needs to invest in content and getting developers to continue to develop. There’s no reason we don’t have a live baseball or football game yet on vision.
The Vision Pro is the Mac Pro of “I”XxxOS products. Announced with accessories once. Kept in the lineup at the same price with no discounts or upgrades for years.
I love the AVP. It has been perfect for work with the mac
How is the resolution with Mac mirroring? How is the experience with text intensive apps like code editors?
@@jessel.8697 The resolution is great. I am not a coder but the work I do requires quite a bit of reading. I am able to read text comfortably without straining my eyes.
@@jessel.8697 The resolution is great with Mac Mirroring and has been fantastic for reading text. I do not code but I read a ton of journal articles and do a lot of writing. I can work/read for hours with very little eye strain. The resolution not been an issue at all.
greatly informative review , thanks
Thanks for sharing. I appreciate your thoughts. Blessings on your day!
What's your thoughts on Pixel 9 / Pro / Fold?
I like the Pixel 9 and the 9 Pro, the Fold got a good redesign but I think they are still a bit pricey
As an AVP user, I confirm every single word you said ! 👏🏼
whats your thoughts on the iphone 15 a year later
That will be a video for this week
Man your background is fire
The most important feature to me is Virtual Mac Display. It’s pretty good, but they need to fix some really important things. The biggest problem is the Input Temporarily Not Working error. That has to never happen.
The second thing is more screen real estate. Personally, I would rather have the anticipated wide curved screen than multiple monitors for two reasons. Primarily, I think real monitors are flat for manufacturing reasons. Virtual screens don’t have that limitation. They should be projected onto a sphere so every pixel is equidistant from my eyes. Making a giant flat screen is a pain trying to access the corners because they are so much further away and at an oblique angle. The second reason is that I don’t like multiple monitors with the MacOS because the menu only appears on one of them. It’s really annoying trying to interact with a window when the menu bar is not there.
3:19 in what situation would you not be able to take your MacBook, but you can take your Vision Pro?
When im walking outside or working in my backyard. I have a 16” MacBook Pro and its very difficult to use while holding and standing up
@@TrentonsTech Using the AVP outside is amazing. There is literally no screen glare. No problems with bright sun. Using apps on it versus trying to use an iPhone screen in the sun is so much better. Obviously, the iPhone has my entire life on it, but the best feature would be if Apple did the iPhone remote (that is happening on the Mac in iOS 18) on the AVP. It is so important to have that feature. To be clear, the AVP will get iPhone screen mirroring, but you still need to interact with the phone screen. The Mac will allow interacting with the phone directly.
The quest three, When combined with a computer. Give you three virtual screens.
17:43 - 19:28 how is it that every person who didn't return their Vision Pro (and isn't like just some clerical fanboy) is saying this exact same thing about Vision Pro?
the side focus is definitely very disappointing. the potential is insane but we might need years until we get there
Apple stated that this is for developrs to build on . Not sure why everyone is still confused lmao
These are not cons. The Quest went through the same thing. That's why they release so many updates. This device is not for everyone . It is a computer not a vr headset
Just calling it like I see it, you are welcome to disagree. If people still want to buy it Im completely fine with that, but I'm just sharing my experience
For me, the price isn't the problem. It's what you DON'T GET for that price that's the problem.
Vision Pro doesn't even have Wi-Fi 6E in 2024 when Wi-Fi 7 devices already exist.
That's embarrassing. 🤣🤣🤣
exactly my sentiments. so many features and content marketed but updates are far inbetween. if it were truly a "spatial computer" then windows would "lock into place". having to reposition windows/objects is the main obstacle for me. Steve Jobs definitely would have addressed that by now.
I'm not a fan of "Steve Jobs would have...". He let *plenty* of things slide for years. It took iPhone, a product with far more customers, a full year to get 3G, copy and paste, an App Store, Exchange, GPS and 2 years to get a video camera and a compass. We're 6 months into Vision Pro.
Quest 3 bang for your buck.
A very different product. It's better for gaming and value. If you have the money and want a headset for general computing, I'd go with AVP.
I’ve seen and heard about it.
I’d rather pass on that than have the lower-tiered interface/experience.