for one. just because you disagree with a video it does not mean you can report it... you can dislike it but reporting because you dislike it is not correct use of the report button..
What he was basically saying, is that his narration of his messages did not reflect the real of the contents them. So, it's not disagreeing, it's about telling a (allegedly) lie about what he was saying.
@paulo.manrique I get that but ..... and hear me out here... kinda crazy this right......... what about just reaching out about the confusion IF that's what it was, right. Lol
That discord mod is just a sad human. And sadly there are so many exactly like him. They think they are always right and it gives them the right to do whatever they want. Cringe as hell
@@procles876 Nope, at least the Stanford experiment people do their job. Those mods won't ban their friends even if they're repeat troublemakers and ban everyone they don't like.
Because him and everyone else has a right to play whatever they want. Why do people still play Lost Ark? Why do people still play FF14 or WoW? You can ask that same question about any game. Just because you or Asmon don't care for the game doesn't mean everyone else has to share that same feeling 🤷♀️
@@natashagalaxy7228True. I play Destiny 2 and I’m having a blast right now!! Of course, it’s not perfect and there’s too much micro transactions, but I don’t spend much money on the game and I enjoy it for what it is: a power fantasy FPS MMORPG Lite
WoW is Not even for the Phone. And who tf would still Support Blizzard after all there BS? And yes China Bad but the usa loves censorship more then fk China. So its Like voting in the USA all Options suxx and you Just Pick the lesser BS
He made it sound like he was discouraging ppl from reporting the other dude but no, he clearly says, “Go there and report the video AGAIN if u want guys, just 3 strikes and the channel is terminated. GG”, does that sound like someone trying to discourage ppl from doing it?
No, he said "stop talking shit about him, if you don't agree with the video go and report". He said he was stopping people from flaming him on the Discord channel.
completely new to this drama, from my perspective this could easily get lost in translation. Me personally, the "just 3 strikes and the channel is terminated. GG" could sound like sarcasm, especially if he was defending him before this message. Meaning something like, "Go ahead and try." But I will wholeheartedly agree that it can also sound spiteful. Meaning something like, "Do it, only takes 3 strikes anyway." Regardless, I don't speak Portuguese, so its difficult to provide input on this, especially since comment above says the translation is off.
No paulo, Thats what he said to asmon, im talking about what he wrote, which is clear enough to me, anyway, i can tell he’s a kid, and at least he acknowledged it was bad and apologized, still wasn’t totally honest, but wtv
He's right, sorry asmon. Theres more to life then the internet and watching a NEET ramble about things... as much as I agree with some of them. IM sorry old friend.
For someone who apparently doesn’t like it and considers quitting, he is so careful talking about the company and seems so scared of losing his UNPAID job lol.. Nothing against him specifically but volunteering to be a discord mod for a company and being scared of losing it is some next level loser shit..
@@brictit Ya... I got a coworker like this, every word out of the guy is real cringe. Like, "why you lying, bro". What's the point of trying to convince people if you suck at it, 🤣I would probably just plead the 5th and be real silent if I was guilty.
@@geoolympics the weird part is sometimes when a kid lies and it unfolds, you can tell they didn't finish thinking so what was suppose to be a truth to them was actually a lie all along and they realize it with you at that very moment.
21:25 Hearing this mod explain themself is giving me brain damage. Ain't no way he is not aware what he is doing is illegal. This mod is literally the same as the "I am a Physician" mod lol.
Cultures in different places are a bit different, for example insulting people in some countries is illegal and you can be fined for it. So it is not 100% clear what is illegal and not when interacting with international corporations and let’s be honest people don’t read the terms and conditions and determine whether that is not appropriate or not and most people end up assuming that the laws of their country are what they have to follow.
The GG can be interpreted a lot of ways here in brazil. GG can be interpreted as "It's done", "That's it" as in "That's the end of the topic". So it also makes sense in the context that he said he wanted people to stop talking about it. If it's actually his intent we will never know.
@@MeiKouT and unsurprisingly, those three finishers you put out matched the context of "well, hes gone and thats it", and in ANY WAY not a positive way to ""deter"" anything at all. You have to have an olympic gym to do mental gymnastic that far to put it in a positive way
@@nikokrisp5273 I mean, are you brazilian? If u're, then the one doing mental gymnastic is you. What he said Is just one of the ways we usually express ourselves. I didn't see anything wrong with it, and I also didnt say it was positive, you are the only one that mentioned it being positive, am I wrong?
@MeiKouT and what? a sentence suddenly doesnt change, he meant what he means and we know what he means, ofc he won't say it was him being mad but it is pretty apparent he do it out of spite. Like, let's not being stupid over it, you can glaze him being Brazilian over it but it's just pretty apparent what he meant, and he got caught, pretty simple
I'm curious if this is a discord mod thing, or a community manager thing, or an actual Tencent thing. I work in the hospitality industry and this level of pettiness and viciousness is mind blowing. You treat others with respect, and you get respect back 99% of the time. It's not that hard.
My husband was a top Umpire for Girls Fastpitch for like 10+ yrs - you wouldn't believe the pettiness of some Umps, Coaches & parents. Ppl are losing their sense of humanity
I've meet so many people with the twisted version of this philosophy, they think they themselves deserve all respect first while not respecting others. I don't know how these people got it twisted so bad
to be fair I've seen this happen in hospitality too, the wrong person being promoted and going down a bit of a power trip spiral. I used to work salary in a bar for events at a hotel, so in the quieter months would have to top up my hours in different areas of the hotel. I definitely saw plenty of nonsense, although plenty of really solid teams too
Dude just killed his Mod career. Admits to false reporting, vaguely admits to calling for mass reports, doesn't understand how criticism works, puts emotions ahead of logic, and tried to pull the wool over Asmons eyes. Dude, No-one is going to trust you anymore and you're not doing yourself any favors... Don't act the fool for people who don't care about you.
@@sysseri Chinese companies may not give a fuck, and may not be sued, but they could easily face legal repercussions when dealing in western countries.
My thoughts are they could have asked him not to include the sponsor and then they could have complained to TH-cam even though they asked him not to include it. The TH-camr would be held responsible regardless what they had asked him to do and they could have responded with “we didn’t know” BS.
How does that prevent defamation? I don’t think you know what that word means, you don’t have to be a working professional to be guilty of or a victim of defamation.
@@itsmyname_realwait til this guy realises many of the most successful companies and products exist because people have hobbies and things they do for fun and can translate that passion into success. Learn to live a little and don’t judge what others do for fun, you’re literally watching a TH-camr who started doing this for fun/to feel important.
I'm really enjoying having a balanced moderator with no ties to either side and minimal bias sort through this kind of drama. This is the kind of drama I can get behind; a structurally addressed conflict where each side has an opportunity to speak their peace without it turning into a screaming match or an unresolved he-said/she-said. The fact that Asmon's moderating is just the absurd icing on the cake.
That mod discussion was so painful to watch…He’s just scrambling around trying to avoid blame. He knows he messed up and trying to get out of it with as least pain as possible.
He would’ve done better if he never showed up. But instead his physician brain thought he had an argument and was right all along. At least we got free comedy content
He should sue for defamation. His hater spread false rumors about him, and he can prove malicious intent because there were no cbt keys which means the hater knew he was lying and still did it. And he can prove damages by showing that his defamation caused him to lose a business opportunity. Dude has a solid case.
If it wasn't for his second post about the '3 Strikes' then I would have understood his 'reason' more but the second Post clerly demonstrated his intent behind his first post! But yes as a Volunteer much props to even come on and put themselves through this as well, and for appologising. And Props to you Asmon for handling it all so perfectly.
I mean... why even say that... what's wrong with ha ing discourse about it and simply telling to dislike and leave their comment instead.... to even say the bare bones of it can be misconstrued (if that wasn't really his intention, which it was) for other to report.
The GG can be interpreted a lot of ways here in brazil. One of the ways GG can be interpreted as "It's done", "That's it" as in "That's the end of the topic". So it makes sense in the context he said people wanted to stop talking, but we will never know if it's actually his intent. I think you guys should take "translations" more into consideration, what we talk doesn't translate 100% to what you guys understand.
@@BlackWolf-zc9po I don't have to. It still makes sense. "If the 3 strikes hapen, then GG". It's a logical conclusion. Maybe u guys just view it differently than us
So pretty much mods were young kids acting like kids spreading rumors about spid on discord, maybe they should of had grown ups be mods in discord for their game.
Yeah, I noticed he said this like 5 different times. Like...what a defense. "No, no, I did it. Just not those times. Since we arent talking about those times, I'm not in the wrong" like wtf.
@@frousteleous1285 it is still misinforming isn't it ? Like if Spid shows messages which aren't about him or aren't accurate, then that's misinformation, is what he was trying to say.
Honestly I feel like asmon has the potential to really go far with the way hes evolving socially, the podcast along with this kind of stuff and something else I cant explain just feels like he's been feeling himself lately and really tapped into his true potential if that makes sense.
Asmons conversation skills are top notch! 46:19 -asmon: Do you think he’s being mistreated by the 2 staffs? -Discord mod: I cannot answer that. -asmon: fine that’s fair, let me ask differently. -asmon: do you think if you would be treated the same as he was how would you feel. Discord mod: yes I would not like it…. This noob just felt for the trap and answered asmons first question, what a genius!!!
It’s a different question though. Being asked how you’d subjectively feel is different from being asked objectively if the company was treating someone else fairly.
@@softan We are not talking about a hypothetical situation, this conversation is about the guy talking above The way he conducts himself WHILE rationalizing his thoughts is what gives away the truth. You're taking in consideration only the content of his speech.
Wanted to add, all this "I'm not allowed to show that", he is not an employee, he has not signed an NDA, the only thing that could happen is him losing his power as a Discord mod. If nothing else, it surely proves that he sees his position as one of power.
This guy was talking about politics on discord, something that was prohibited by rule, and he was already a moderator, and he even silenced someone for contradicting what he said, the person told him to simply read the rules.
I know there is a bit of a language barrier, but the guy was clearly lacking any solid defense for his case... that was painful to listen to. I know it shouldn't mean anything but as a brazilian I feel embarassed because of him
Even if they remove all the p2w. I don't trust them. They will definitely add it all back once everyone is invested. They clearly don't seem like trustworthy developers
The worst thing with the mod is that he used generalized claims as arguments like "he is lying about things","he is ruining the reputation", "he said bad things" but when asked about what, he knew he could not say . If you cant say it dont say it at all but he wanted to say that out loud either way. I do agree that in the end though, the drama is leaving a bad taste to people irregardless of who is at fault.
The dude has to think cos he’s clearly not the best at English. Also, the mod had a point. If people are raging in the discord, telling them to simply report the video and move on if they don’t like it is a good way to bring tensions down. It’s not the right thing to do, but he has logic behind it and asmon just spoke over him and abused the language barrier
Man the dude is like "but i didnt make a video" you still talked dirt of the dude?! Then cried when you get called out. Then cries he was mad about being called out "i was just mad and" my god this is funny to hear a dev / community member crying.. "i didnt take his video down i reported it with claiming it shared person info" YOU DID you straight up gave a reason you knew would take it down!
Someone get the lich king a set of judge robes from party city, a squeaky hammer, and a green screen with a court room. Let's make Judge Asmon a regular thing
Bro jumped on to "clarify some things" and totally did so - we now know the company he represents fucked up righteously and has absolutely nothing to back up their claims.
As a Brazilian, I can say we always volunteer with respect and passion for the games we love, whether it's moderation, art, translation, modding, etc This weird fanatic doesn't represent our community🤡
Does the Portuguese dude not realize a freaking watch can translate languages now? I mean Google translate is a thing heck even my earbuds can translate ffs...
@@Dillon1998 I would disagree, I think Google translate would be better at translation than your dead grandma (unless she was able to speak multiple languages). I've used Google translate (the photo mode, the voice mode, and just the usual mode) in areas where no one spoke English. It wasn't perfect, but it was a lot better than a dead grandma could've done.
@@nine9nine9 If you Go to a European country then maybe yes. If you Go to a asin country then No Not at all. Even with france Google Translation has big Problems. But im in south korea and Here the Google Translation is uselees. Better speak broken english and i anwser in even more broken english
This guy needs to be kicked off that server staff list. And possibly the discord.. . Sounds like a really snakey person ... id not want him in my server.
This video got boring really quick, I really liked the beginning where we ha spid explain what happened so far with tencent but then it evolved to lecturing a mod who wont even accept he was in the wrong
This was a great way to start the day, props to the mod honestly. He knew he was going into the wolves den asking to come into the call. He came in, took the criticism and ended up being open and honest about the conversation instead of being a bad faith Andy. Wish we saw this more, thanks for looking out Asmon.
46:50 "It's not about me" - That's the real problem these days, people with a lack of empathy who don't take responsibility for their actions. With people like Asmon, I'll believe once more in justice and good hearts. Peace.
I can't tell if the mod was being intentionally disingenuous or if he knew he fucked up and was just trying to salvage some reputation in a clumsy way. Still, he did apologise in the end, and that's more than most are willing to do, so props to him for that.
I don't play online games or speak Portugese. I'm not even sure what game they're talking about. But I'm really invested in this drama for some reason.
Man, this guy. He’s probably banned right now. There’s no way he goes back to “volunteering” in a place that is so accepting. Hopefully, he goes on to be a better mod if he continues. His whole perspective just changed. Also- to the chatter who said, “emotional damage,” I choked. Definitely a win.
He's not descouraging anyone. "Quem quiser" said that way in portuguese just means that he's not gonna make anyone do it but he is implying that it should be done
problem was the 2nd part of the message of the mod, there was malicious intent. you can tell them to just block, mute, report and stuff and its fine but saying 3 strikes it can remove his channel.... problem also with mods is that why does he need permission from the devs to talk about things that are maybe public knowledge. his not part of the company if its on the discord channel then he can talk about it. he is basically the hands of the dev then and if he does anything wrong well its not the dev but the mods....
This guy has no idea what defaming legally means. He also has no concept of what abusing one's position means, regardless of intent. If you're in a position of power, whether or not it's your intention to abuse it, people will pay more attention to what you say than if you were not. Honestly though, I do think Fox should be reported for blatant misinformation, but they doing it on purpose, that's very different than making a youtube video where the youtuber may have misunderstood something. I think in the end, this mod just doesn't know wtf he's doing now and didn't know wtf he was doing then. Dude basically enforced censorship without realizing it. That's not malicious, but it's very irresponsible. Good on him for realizing it.
Absolutely love dramas where asmond is mediator 🤣 hes really good at holding ppl accountable, my biggest problem was that rather than have a conversation what was a misinformation mod went straight to mutes, which only escalated it further
Asmon has said he loves doing interviews and mediation like this but its getting all parties involved to agree to talk this luckily just happened on the fly.
This was actually some really good content. Got some drama, a bit of a plot twist and a nice conclusion. Zack played his role masterfully in keeping this whole shit together from start to finish. I don't think I could've paced and steered the conversation this well had I have been in his position.
Asmon, thank you for being so static and blunt while speaking with the discord mod. He was absolutely in the wrong as are the Tarisland staff/dev team. I really hope Spid is able to come out of this situation with a smile on his face, and a channel in a better position than ever.
This dude is so close to being a good person but he just needs some hard lessons like he got here. Hopefully it helps him grow. People need to be called out every once in a while and “parented”
"This is so stupid it requires my full attention."- Asmongold
Lol dude im like why does anyone give a fuck about any of this
Because, drama gets clicks.
I don't, really don't give a shit about the game or people around it, but I still watched the whole thing because the interaction was fascinating.
Asmongold has become the internet Judge Judy, and I fucking love it.
JUDEHH @@GoCreateTech
THIS IS SO STUPID, IT REQUIRES ALL OF MY ATTENTION! 😂😂 Thats his catch frase
I'd consider him more of a Jude Dread
Hey Jude!
Literally
for one. just because you disagree with a video it does not mean you can report it... you can dislike it but reporting because you dislike it is not correct use of the report button..
you can in china
@@harkennu😂😂😂
@@harkennu Naïve simplicity...
What he was basically saying, is that his narration of his messages did not reflect the real of the contents them. So, it's not disagreeing, it's about telling a (allegedly) lie about what he was saying.
@paulo.manrique I get that but ..... and hear me out here... kinda crazy this right......... what about just reaching out about the confusion IF that's what it was, right. Lol
Tencent heard his two cents and didn’t like it
More like ten cents 🥁
only 2 cent? where's the other 8? KEKW
tencent + his two cents = 12 cents and we just cant have that
Just wait until 50cent gets into this
They're now Eightcent
Getting reprimanded by asmongold is fucking hilarious 😭 "come on man what are you doing"
Being reprimanded by asmon is probably a crappie feeling.. 😂
Mod finally got some father figure.
Asmon got real fed up at this point and just got REAL.
I actually cracked up at this
Timestamp?
That discord mod is just a sad human. And sadly there are so many exactly like him. They think they are always right and it gives them the right to do whatever they want. Cringe as hell
And buddy still thinks he did nothing wrong 💀💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️
Give someone a little bit of power over a group of people and they trip over it. Its insane.
The Stanford Prison Experiment in action.
You haven't watched the video all the way through @@Cooowop
@@procles876 Nope, at least the Stanford experiment people do their job. Those mods won't ban their friends even if they're repeat troublemakers and ban everyone they don't like.
The guy "mod" without clearance has a lot of physician energy.
As a physician, I think you're right.
As a physician I concur with your assessment fellow physician colleague
Bruh I was just thinking of the Queen Pwnzalot or whoever drama.
"Just trust me, I'm a physician"
Get this comment to the top!!
Hes a whole surgeon 💀
"Why are you playing a Chinese knock off WoW?" - Asmon
That is a good question.
Because him and everyone else has a right to play whatever they want. Why do people still play Lost Ark? Why do people still play FF14 or WoW? You can ask that same question about any game. Just because you or Asmon don't care for the game doesn't mean everyone else has to share that same feeling 🤷♀️
@@natashagalaxy7228 based
@@natashagalaxy7228True. I play Destiny 2 and I’m having a blast right now!! Of course, it’s not perfect and there’s too much micro transactions, but I don’t spend much money on the game and I enjoy it for what it is: a power fantasy FPS MMORPG Lite
dont u have phone!
WoW is Not even for the Phone. And who tf would still Support Blizzard after all there BS? And yes China Bad but the usa loves censorship more then fk China. So its Like voting in the USA all Options suxx and you Just Pick the lesser BS
He made it sound like he was discouraging ppl from reporting the other dude but no, he clearly says, “Go there and report the video AGAIN if u want guys, just 3 strikes and the channel is terminated. GG”, does that sound like someone trying to discourage ppl from doing it?
No, he said "stop talking shit about him, if you don't agree with the video go and report". He said he was stopping people from flaming him on the Discord channel.
completely new to this drama, from my perspective this could easily get lost in translation. Me personally, the "just 3 strikes and the channel is terminated. GG" could sound like sarcasm, especially if he was defending him before this message. Meaning something like, "Go ahead and try." But I will wholeheartedly agree that it can also sound spiteful. Meaning something like, "Do it, only takes 3 strikes anyway." Regardless, I don't speak Portuguese, so its difficult to provide input on this, especially since comment above says the translation is off.
No paulo, Thats what he said to asmon, im talking about what he wrote, which is clear enough to me, anyway, i can tell he’s a kid, and at least he acknowledged it was bad and apologized, still wasn’t totally honest, but wtv
I don't want a video made on me, what happens on discord, stays on discord
@@AnimeRPGgamemaybe consider posting in a PRIVATE channel then
im online too much
You did it
Lol same bro
He's right, sorry asmon. Theres more to life then the internet and watching a NEET ramble about things... as much as I agree with some of them. IM sorry old friend.
just like me frfr
I feel you
"I haven't got clearance". Bro you're a volunteer discord mod, you're not in the goddamn CIA.
From working for a crappy Game Publisher, I'm 99.999% sure they made him sign an NDA before making him a Discord Mod.
People hear one pseudo cool word at 5 and they have to use it any chance they get. 😂😂😂
For someone who apparently doesn’t like it and considers quitting, he is so careful talking about the company and seems so scared of losing his UNPAID job lol..
Nothing against him specifically but volunteering to be a discord mod for a company and being scared of losing it is some next level loser shit..
when dealing with the chinese government, you have to treat everything like you work for the CIA. your social credit score is on the line.
@@Shiirow Dude's Portuguese, not Chinese.
"I'm good because I only suggested people to take down his channel, but I didn't order them to."
“I didn’t spam it, so it’s fine”
And it may be illegal but it effects me so im morally justified
And this is why you shouldn’t use volunteer for community roles.
@@pixielst So true, people like that just want to feel some sort of power
"Someone might get rid of this pesky priest. I'm not gonna do bad things though, that would be wrong. Someone could though." *throws hands up*
bro, the amateur thought they could manipulate asmongold to they side, OMEGALUL
its kinda funny to hear kids lie
@@brictit Ya... I got a coworker like this, every word out of the guy is real cringe. Like, "why you lying, bro". What's the point of trying to convince people if you suck at it, 🤣I would probably just plead the 5th and be real silent if I was guilty.
@@geoolympics the weird part is sometimes when a kid lies and it unfolds, you can tell they didn't finish thinking so what was suppose to be a truth to them was actually a lie all along and they realize it with you at that very moment.
Asmon is getting into Online drama moderator career 😂
Discord mod PhD
Hes a veteran from running guilds and raiding not much difference
Dr. Roach
"Guys, now shake your hands and kiss"
Judge Zack
So in conclusion.... fuck that game.
Absolutely. And fuck anything made by those guys.
This guy straight asked to get on to get roasted to an inch of his life lmao
21:25 Hearing this mod explain themself is giving me brain damage. Ain't no way he is not aware what he is doing is illegal.
This mod is literally the same as the "I am a Physician" mod lol.
Cultures in different places are a bit different, for example insulting people in some countries is illegal and you can be fined for it. So it is not 100% clear what is illegal and not when interacting with international corporations and let’s be honest people don’t read the terms and conditions and determine whether that is not appropriate or not and most people end up assuming that the laws of their country are what they have to follow.
@@rashedalmansouri4586 i am a physician and its not
@@gillsejusbates6938what is not?
I think he came to speak out of guilt ?
It might be illegal but it effects me so im morally justified
Why have I listened to an hour long video about discord mod drama for a game I have zero interest in... I need to go to bed
Same
lmao preach
Because it's so effing funny.
It is peak cinema ahaha
Yep
"3 hits to the heads and he's gone. GG." - Said the guy who wanted to deter thugs from robbing a dude.
The GG can be interpreted a lot of ways here in brazil. GG can be interpreted as "It's done", "That's it" as in "That's the end of the topic". So it also makes sense in the context that he said he wanted people to stop talking about it. If it's actually his intent we will never know.
It was a response to the response you couldn't hold me to the response because my reputation butt hurts.
@@MeiKouT and unsurprisingly, those three finishers you put out matched the context of "well, hes gone and thats it", and in ANY WAY not a positive way to ""deter"" anything at all. You have to have an olympic gym to do mental gymnastic that far to put it in a positive way
@@nikokrisp5273 I mean, are you brazilian? If u're, then the one doing mental gymnastic is you. What he said Is just one of the ways we usually express ourselves. I didn't see anything wrong with it, and I also didnt say it was positive, you are the only one that mentioned it being positive, am I wrong?
@MeiKouT and what? a sentence suddenly doesnt change, he meant what he means and we know what he means, ofc he won't say it was him being mad but it is pretty apparent he do it out of spite.
Like, let's not being stupid over it, you can glaze him being Brazilian over it but it's just pretty apparent what he meant, and he got caught, pretty simple
I'm curious if this is a discord mod thing, or a community manager thing, or an actual Tencent thing. I work in the hospitality industry and this level of pettiness and viciousness is mind blowing. You treat others with respect, and you get respect back 99% of the time. It's not that hard.
Why not all three, compounding?
My husband was a top Umpire for Girls Fastpitch for like 10+ yrs - you wouldn't believe the pettiness of some Umps, Coaches & parents. Ppl are losing their sense of humanity
I've meet so many people with the twisted version of this philosophy, they think they themselves deserve all respect first while not respecting others. I don't know how these people got it twisted so bad
i think it's more of a complete shitshow thing, where there's absolutely no communication and all involved just do whatever the fuck they want
to be fair I've seen this happen in hospitality too, the wrong person being promoted and going down a bit of a power trip spiral.
I used to work salary in a bar for events at a hotel, so in the quieter months would have to top up my hours in different areas of the hotel. I definitely saw plenty of nonsense, although plenty of really solid teams too
Dude just killed his Mod career.
Admits to false reporting, vaguely admits to calling for mass reports, doesn't understand how criticism works, puts emotions ahead of logic, and tried to pull the wool over Asmons eyes.
Dude, No-one is going to trust you anymore and you're not doing yourself any favors... Don't act the fool for people who don't care about you.
Guess who Tencent's gonna make the scapegoat for this
It’s glorious
There is no such thing as "mod career"
Asking you to remove sponsorship is a no no, it goes against TH-cam terms and services.
Anything is acceptable for big companies
it's also against laws in most western countries and probably not only
@@RandomNon-interestingguy It's not like tencent or any other chinese company gives a fuck. Good luck trying to sue them.
@@sysseri Chinese companies may not give a fuck, and may not be sued, but they could easily face legal repercussions when dealing in western countries.
My thoughts are they could have asked him not to include the sponsor and then they could have complained to TH-cam even though they asked him not to include it. The TH-camr would be held responsible regardless what they had asked him to do and they could have responded with “we didn’t know” BS.
Prediction: The guy gets demoted or even banned off the discord by the devs for letting Spid have the W in this discussion.
I just want that mod guy to know- there's no defaming because because at the end of the day discord mods are just wasting their own time for free.
there a lot of ppl waste their time to feel important, like being a mod on an official discord server of a shitty game
@@itsmyname_realor helping homeless.
What a waste of time.
In Brazil defaming is a crime, not a civil issue based on state.
How does that prevent defamation? I don’t think you know what that word means, you don’t have to be a working professional to be guilty of or a victim of defamation.
@@itsmyname_realwait til this guy realises many of the most successful companies and products exist because people have hobbies and things they do for fun and can translate that passion into success.
Learn to live a little and don’t judge what others do for fun, you’re literally watching a TH-camr who started doing this for fun/to feel important.
I'm really enjoying having a balanced moderator with no ties to either side and minimal bias sort through this kind of drama. This is the kind of drama I can get behind; a structurally addressed conflict where each side has an opportunity to speak their peace without it turning into a screaming match or an unresolved he-said/she-said. The fact that Asmon's moderating is just the absurd icing on the cake.
He also has the power/ money/backing he can actually take action if needed unlike most moderators simply due to his unique position
That mod discussion was so painful to watch…He’s just scrambling around trying to avoid blame. He knows he messed up and trying to get out of it with as least pain as possible.
He would’ve done better if he never showed up. But instead his physician brain thought he had an argument and was right all along. At least we got free comedy content
Man, I really should be sleeping right now
Me to man. I feel ya.
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He should sue for defamation. His hater spread false rumors about him, and he can prove malicious intent because there were no cbt keys which means the hater knew he was lying and still did it. And he can prove damages by showing that his defamation caused him to lose a business opportunity. Dude has a solid case.
Idk if he has the money for it tbh. A good lawyer costs quite a bit.
He would probably get a nice settlement
Yes, sue tencent, that will go well.
Sorry but he wouldn't stand a chance, corporations as big as Tencent have massive legal teams
Is he American?
From this video I've learned that people on the internet are waaaaaay less aggressive when confronted with in verbal communication.
you’re just now realizing
@@starboy5653 Yeah when the Discord mod shows up, I genuinely thought I'll get to watch some 'actions' in this video.
I don't think you've played cs:go/ cs2
They were trying to dig a trap for him to get him banned on youtube.
If it wasn't for his second post about the '3 Strikes' then I would have understood his 'reason' more but the second Post clerly demonstrated his intent behind his first post! But yes as a Volunteer much props to even come on and put themselves through this as well, and for appologising. And Props to you Asmon for handling it all so perfectly.
Also props to Asmon having enough of his shit and calling him out on it.
I mean... why even say that... what's wrong with ha ing discourse about it and simply telling to dislike and leave their comment instead.... to even say the bare bones of it can be misconstrued (if that wasn't really his intention, which it was) for other to report.
The GG can be interpreted a lot of ways here in brazil. One of the ways GG can be interpreted as "It's done", "That's it" as in "That's the end of the topic". So it makes sense in the context he said people wanted to stop talking, but we will never know if it's actually his intent. I think you guys should take "translations" more into consideration, what we talk doesn't translate 100% to what you guys understand.
@@MeiKouT How are you going to attempt to explain the '3 Strikes' comment then?
@@BlackWolf-zc9po I don't have to. It still makes sense. "If the 3 strikes hapen, then GG". It's a logical conclusion. Maybe u guys just view it differently than us
this mod guy backtracks so much
i'd be yelling curse words if people weren't sleeping in the next room because it's going on being 6:30 in the morning. the dude is just yikes
Court is in session, Judge MonGold presiding.
Honorable Judge MonGold to you
Fuk ten cents .. here's my 2cents
Just downloaded dark souls on my switch.
BatChest !!!!
Here's my ten cents, my two cents is free · A nuisance, who sent? You sent for me?
Time to sleep
*checks notifications*
*hour long Asmon video*
Time to sleep in an hour.
Gn
Truuee especially cause I had just seen the first one in the morning I needed to see the second part
It's morning for me.
addicted to listening to yappers. Why are we like this
@@noredine it's weirdly entertaining
the issue is tencent is sooo big even discord uses their servers
ahhh got some news for ya, they kinda own discord lol
Tencent is the majority owner of Discord.
@@Lazerspikeeven worse. They own Valorant. And everyone has it installed somewhere constantly feeding your data to China.
So pretty much mods were young kids acting like kids spreading rumors about spid on discord, maybe they should of had grown ups be mods in discord for their game.
“He said I was talking bad about him but I wasn’t… not on those messages.” 😂
Yeah, I noticed he said this like 5 different times. Like...what a defense. "No, no, I did it. Just not those times. Since we arent talking about those times, I'm not in the wrong" like wtf.
@@frousteleous1285 it is still misinforming isn't it ? Like if Spid shows messages which aren't about him or aren't accurate, then that's misinformation, is what he was trying to say.
Boy crumbles at 29:03. This is why tencent did not sign off on this guy and went radio silent lol.
Thought he was crumbling since he joined the call lol
Asmon should start a Jerry Springer style show. I love the no holds barred moderation style.
The Roach Coach.
Talk about perfect timing! Just finished the previous video on this
Honestly I feel like asmon has the potential to really go far with the way hes evolving socially, the podcast along with this kind of stuff and something else I cant explain just feels like he's been feeling himself lately and really tapped into his true potential if that makes sense.
Getting a lot of "I'm a Physician" Energy from this call
21:52 i just lov ehow asmon just said whatr everyone was thinking. Gotta love the honesty
Asmons conversation skills are top notch!
46:19
-asmon: Do you think he’s being mistreated by the 2 staffs?
-Discord mod: I cannot answer that.
-asmon: fine that’s fair, let me ask differently.
-asmon: do you think if you would be treated the same as he was how would you feel.
Discord mod: yes I would not like it….
This noob just felt for the trap and answered asmons first question, what a genius!!!
It’s a different question though. Being asked how you’d subjectively feel is different from being asked objectively if the company was treating someone else fairly.
@@scarletsletter4466 different question for dummies that use social language
for smart people that believe in truth is the same one
@@softan We are not talking about a hypothetical situation, this conversation is about the guy talking above
The way he conducts himself WHILE rationalizing his thoughts is what gives away the truth.
You're taking in consideration only the content of his speech.
Asmon has become the internet judge and I love it.
Wanted to add, all this "I'm not allowed to show that", he is not an employee, he has not signed an NDA, the only thing that could happen is him losing his power as a Discord mod. If nothing else, it surely proves that he sees his position as one of power.
And he'll probably lose his position anyway after this
Breaking news, Discord mod sounds exactly as we all thought
This guy was talking about politics on discord, something that was prohibited by rule, and he was already a moderator, and he even silenced someone for contradicting what he said, the person told him to simply read the rules.
i like how asmon is judge judy's apprentice, getting all the left over cases she doesnt want to deal with
I can't believe Asmon basically told this man to get his act together, I hope for more interviews in the future 29:48
I know there is a bit of a language barrier, but the guy was clearly lacking any solid defense for his case... that was painful to listen to. I know it shouldn't mean anything but as a brazilian I feel embarassed because of him
TLDR: Game developers showed their CHINESE MANNERS! Periodt!
God, why did that Discord mod sound exactly like I thought they would sound.
Even if they remove all the p2w. I don't trust them. They will definitely add it all back once everyone is invested. They clearly don't seem like trustworthy developers
We've gotten to a point where we have 50min videos about a discord argument. I'm ashamed to admit I watched the entire thing. God help us.
The worst thing with the mod is that he used generalized claims as arguments like "he is lying about things","he is ruining the reputation", "he said bad things" but when asked about what, he knew he could not say . If you cant say it dont say it at all but he wanted to say that out loud either way.
I do agree that in the end though, the drama is leaving a bad taste to people irregardless of who is at fault.
Asmon cooked the discord mod so hard he forgot what he was gonna say LOL
I'm a physician.
The dude has to think cos he’s clearly not the best at English. Also, the mod had a point. If people are raging in the discord, telling them to simply report the video and move on if they don’t like it is a good way to bring tensions down.
It’s not the right thing to do, but he has logic behind it and asmon just spoke over him and abused the language barrier
@@pete5516there's a huge distance between "if you guys are mad then complain to TH-cam"
To
"3 hits and is ggs for his channel"
@@pete5516no he didn't? That is not at all what he said in discord.
Man the dude is like "but i didnt make a video" you still talked dirt of the dude?! Then cried when you get called out. Then cries he was mad about being called out "i was just mad and" my god this is funny to hear a dev / community member crying.. "i didnt take his video down i reported it with claiming it shared person info" YOU DID you straight up gave a reason you knew would take it down!
Someone get the lich king a set of judge robes from party city, a squeaky hammer, and a green screen with a court room.
Let's make Judge Asmon a regular thing
Bro jumped on to "clarify some things" and totally did so - we now know the company he represents fucked up righteously and has absolutely nothing to back up their claims.
I love when you can tell that Asmon is having enough of the conversation 😅
I like the conclusion, and Asmon is really becoming fairly good moderator (of the conversation).
As a Brazilian, I can say we always volunteer with respect and passion for the games we love, whether it's moderation, art, translation, modding, etc
This weird fanatic doesn't represent our community🤡
This mod way of thinking is
“Rules for you not for me”
Unemployed friend on a tuesday: Report this guy, 3 strikes = GG
ASMON WAS OUT FOR BLOOD IN THIS ONE
He is angry for the TH-camr guy because he is being too nice to those fuckers.
Does the Portuguese dude not realize a freaking watch can translate languages now? I mean Google translate is a thing heck even my earbuds can translate ffs...
To be fair Google Translation is worse then my dead grandma at Translation
But it would give us a bit of insight into what is being said@@Dillon1998
@@Dillon1998 I would disagree, I think Google translate would be better at translation than your dead grandma (unless she was able to speak multiple languages).
I've used Google translate (the photo mode, the voice mode, and just the usual mode) in areas where no one spoke English. It wasn't perfect, but it was a lot better than a dead grandma could've done.
@@nine9nine9 If you Go to a European country then maybe yes. If you Go to a asin country then No Not at all. Even with france Google Translation has big Problems.
But im in south korea and Here the Google Translation is uselees. Better speak broken english and i anwser in even more broken english
I don't know who this person is and the game he plays but I'm watching this video till the end.
This guy needs to be kicked off that server staff list. And possibly the discord.. . Sounds like a really snakey person ... id not want him in my server.
This video got boring really quick, I really liked the beginning where we ha spid explain what happened so far with tencent but then it evolved to lecturing a mod who wont even accept he was in the wrong
That mod failed Gaslighting 101
This content is better than the game itself hahaha
This was a great way to start the day, props to the mod honestly. He knew he was going into the wolves den asking to come into the call. He came in, took the criticism and ended up being open and honest about the conversation instead of being a bad faith Andy. Wish we saw this more, thanks for looking out Asmon.
China is (Finish the sentence)
In China!
@@RetroMonger China is in Taiwan. The mainland is under hostile occupation
Numba wan!
Not the CCP
Home of Winnie the poo
46:50 "It's not about me" - That's the real problem these days, people with a lack of empathy who don't take responsibility for their actions. With people like Asmon, I'll believe once more in justice and good hearts. Peace.
It's so funny to me how every drama starts with some random entitled discord mod lol
I can't tell if the mod was being intentionally disingenuous or if he knew he fucked up and was just trying to salvage some reputation in a clumsy way. Still, he did apologise in the end, and that's more than most are willing to do, so props to him for that.
has painful as it was to listen to this, props to asmon for pushing hard and not backing down.
I don't play online games or speak Portugese.
I'm not even sure what game they're talking about.
But I'm really invested in this drama for some reason.
Drama addiction is real.
The ego of someone that is not an employee and is not getting payed XDDD
Man, this guy. He’s probably banned right now. There’s no way he goes back to “volunteering” in a place that is so accepting. Hopefully, he goes on to be a better mod if he continues. His whole perspective just changed. Also- to the chatter who said, “emotional damage,” I choked. Definitely a win.
nerdola: if you don't agree.. report it..
wow, what a way to make the world a nice place to have different opinions..
When Asmon saw the trial Depp vs Amber he thought that it would be cool idea to become a Judge, and here we are now
In my professional experience: Chinese companies have 0 problem lying cheating and gaslighting.
He's not descouraging anyone. "Quem quiser" said that way in portuguese just means that he's not gonna make anyone do it but he is implying that it should be done
problem was the 2nd part of the message of the mod, there was malicious intent. you can tell them to just block, mute, report and stuff and its fine but saying 3 strikes it can remove his channel.... problem also with mods is that why does he need permission from the devs to talk about things that are maybe public knowledge. his not part of the company if its on the discord channel then he can talk about it. he is basically the hands of the dev then and if he does anything wrong well its not the dev but the mods....
The honorable judge Asmon steps up to the bench, court is now in session
This guy has no idea what defaming legally means.
He also has no concept of what abusing one's position means, regardless of intent. If you're in a position of power, whether or not it's your intention to abuse it, people will pay more attention to what you say than if you were not.
Honestly though, I do think Fox should be reported for blatant misinformation, but they doing it on purpose, that's very different than making a youtube video where the youtuber may have misunderstood something.
I think in the end, this mod just doesn't know wtf he's doing now and didn't know wtf he was doing then. Dude basically enforced censorship without realizing it. That's not malicious, but it's very irresponsible.
Good on him for realizing it.
Absolutely love dramas where asmond is mediator 🤣 hes really good at holding ppl accountable, my biggest problem was that rather than have a conversation what was a misinformation mod went straight to mutes, which only escalated it further
Asmon, please do this more often. This was awesome to watch!
Asmon has said he loves doing interviews and mediation like this but its getting all parties involved to agree to talk this luckily just happened on the fly.
This was actually some really good content. Got some drama, a bit of a plot twist and a nice conclusion. Zack played his role masterfully in keeping this whole shit together from start to finish. I don't think I could've paced and steered the conversation this well had I have been in his position.
"GG" in brazil / south america means "its done" or "topic is over" and not necessarily like asshole sarcasm or "get rekt" kind of vibe
At this point Asmon is the A team. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him (in the attic) maybe you can hire....Asmon.
In all fairness, if its a WoW clone it has to be pay to win like the original.
Well you know what they say, Tencent is more than Twocent, they beat you by at least Eightcent.
You let the mod talk too much I wanted to hear more from Spid about the devs.
Asmon, thank you for being so static and blunt while speaking with the discord mod. He was absolutely in the wrong as are the Tarisland staff/dev team. I really hope Spid is able to come out of this situation with a smile on his face, and a channel in a better position than ever.
Why did the mod join the call? Just to prove he is an idiot?
This dude is so close to being a good person but he just needs some hard lessons like he got here. Hopefully it helps him grow. People need to be called out every once in a while and “parented”