What Will Happen With Diesel Locomotives after 100% Electrification || १००% विद्युतीकरण के बाद क्या
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Indian Railways has electrified 52,247 Route kilometers (RKM) that is about 80% of the total broad gauge network of Indian Railways (65,414 RKM, including Konkan Railway) by 31 March 2022[1] It is planned to electrify all routes of the Indian Railways network by 2024.[2] The entire electrified mainline rail network in India uses 25 kV AC; DC is used only for metros and trams.
Although the government had put forward the idea of 100% electrification of the railway network of the country, they made a change in plans two years ago.
You see, the idea of a fully functional electrified rail route throughout the country may sound fancy but technically, it’s not fesable nor productive. There are remote routes in the country where there are only a very few schedules but still in need for services. Sections and routes where only two - three trains pass by a day, and no freight trains. Its better to leave such routes non electrified.
Electric locos can only operate with OH catenary supply while diesel Locos can
run on both electrified as well as non electrified routes. If power failures happen
or accidents where the catenary supply is cut off, only a diesel loco can move ahead.
So, not all diesel locos will be converted into electric. Many would remain as it is.
Currently, some WDG3As and old WAM4s are being dismantled and converted to
form twin unit 10000 HP WAGC3. Like wise, old WDP4 and WAG9 were converted to
make twin unit WAG11 with 12000 HP.
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1)How much cost of diesel will be saved after 100 percent electrification of railway
2 ) dfc will reduce the burden of trucks so how much diesel cost will be saved
3 ) can we take bullets as an alternative of petrol and diesel cars and buses while long travel
Woh toh theek hai magar emergency ke liye 40-50 hone chahiye incase power supply khatam karde koi
#Ask PT भाई क्या हम डीजल इंजन ( लोकोमोटिव ) को हाइड्रोजन (hydrogen) लोकोमोटिव में परिवर्तित कर सकतें हैं ?
ha bhai duniya hi 2014 yani 8 saal pehle sru hui hai bhai teri usse pehle to narak mai tha bhai haina 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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It's funny that all of this started only after 2014. Most of you know what was happening before that 😏
Power of modi ji 🔥
It was started by Manmohan singh goverment which was further continued by modi .
Scams😂
Yup in many regions modi did great while on some he sucked like all other government..
@@rudradeshmukh3651 So what? actions speaks louder than good intention! People see what you do, not what your intentions are! 😏
For military trains a considerable number will be put in reserve, in wars grids can go offline, you need diesel engines.
Also you always need it as backups for power failures and many other stuffs.
Diesel Trains can run even if the tracks are electrified I guess.
@@nexlord2036 certainly 😅
Indian railways are still buying wdp 4 and 5 manufactured at Bihar with collaboration of GE meaning they won't abandon diesel completely.
@@niketsinha18 Obviously I saw that Coming. I actually replied because your comment sounded like you didn't watch the entire video.But my suspicions are now cleared. ☕
@@nexlord2036 this topic is covered often so I skipped video after 1-2 minutes but still made a comment 😅
Big brain 🧠 good man
india is focusing on 100% electrification is great
but every diesel engine locomotive must not be dismantled or convert into electric locomotive
since in a emergency or a war situation , what if electric transmission gets cessation or destroyed ;
this might create great depression within country
Yeah like Electric is not gonna work when we have Lines that can be cut.So yeah Disel is needed in times of war
And in natural calamities and other such operations ... Electric grid lines become useless . It will be mad if everything becomes electrified
Where will u get so much diesel in war time?
@@tindrums we have reserves and war doesn't stop trade we would still buy oil
@@tindrums I agree, our electricity system is highly indigenous, we use our own coal whereas diesel needs to be imported.
Ek hi baat :- Modi hai to mumkin hai ❤️🙏🔥
Sar tumhara
Most will be used for shunting duties
A good chunk for backup in case of extreme crisis like war
Some for intl trains like trains to Bangladesh and Pakistan where there is no electric traction
And rest will be sold to other countries
Diesel Trains can run on electrified Tracks I guess
@@nexlord2036 yes that's why dfc will use some high diesel powered locos like wdg6g for extra large freight trains
However electric locos can't run on non electrified railways which pakistan or Bangladesh don't have
@@JoGoat20 I got your point thanks
100% electrification is never possible, especially in NFR
Haflong ka situation se wahi pata chalta hai
@@HouseOfAnthems it is possible for broad gauge and it will happen eventually but yes will take more time
Diesel is just too costly to import
For now boundary areas have low electrification rate especially in NWR and NFR
But NWR already making good progress in electrification
Still we can expect over 95 percent electrification by 2023
I feel so proud by seeing my India is focusing on every aspect and developing 😍💫❤️
Thank you
your mum@@LiegeMaximo
now railway must focus on 100% fencing. It would drastically help INDIAN RAILWAYS TO OPERATE TRAINS AT HIGHER SPEEDS AND LESS ANIMALS WILL DIE ON TRACKS
chup
Major land reform laws need to be passed for this purpose to remove the encroached railway land in almost all cities and villages. This will trigger the greatest refugee crisis the world has ever seen.
State govt machinery needs to become more active ignoring vote bank politics to bulldoze all the protesting encroachers' homes who were granted railway land illegally decades ago in exchange for votes.
Central or state govts need to enforce laws to remove stray cattle which will trigger most villages in all states.
Only then can the fencing start.
These were the problems. Solution is to either do all the above swiftly and and forcefully or use too much taxpayer money to keep certain people's mouth shut by bribing them.
@@mathematicsfanatic832 kyun re
@@_Tapas_ bcoz i dont like it . I hate closed spaces. railway must pass through a open field
@@mathematicsfanatic832 you might be unemployed that's why you don't value time
Diesel loco always memories of childhood specially alco locomotive is changing and honking are Missing after electrification 😭😭
To badlaw karna jaroori hai
@@mayankindian3750 Change is the law of Nature
@@raaagent true brother
Same horn don't worry
@@mayankindian3750 bhai dekh me ghar pass line vo electricfied hogi he ab isme sare electric loco ate he 😅
last 2 to 8 years railways improvements significant.
good job by current indian government and railways.
IR has been experiencing net loss for the first time in it's history since 2017-18 under this govt .
@@atheistbanerjee008 bcs money has been put on upgradation. It’s not really that much of a concern people make it out to be. Almost all of the railways in the world run in net loss. HSR network of China is under 900 billion dollars of debt. Although that much debt is not sustainable it can be considered an example of state capacity to maintain good infrastructure. If we only focus on profit, we are gonna get US railroads which is considered one of the shittiest passenger railways system.
Modi government rail fan 🔥
8 years of Modi Sarkar 🔥❤️
Sound of deisel locomotive is unforgettable 🥲🥲🥲 different vibes
Ravish kumar: " Modi ne electrification se diesel engine ke mechanic ka rozgar chhin liya hai. "
yes
Also they can convert these old diesel locomotives to ethanol powered locomotives and bio CNG powered ones as promoted by Gadkari sir for on road vehicles and buses.
Diesel fuel efficiency kitna efficiency nhi hoti CNG aur ethanol ki isiliye heavy vehicle me jada diesel engine Hoti hai
@@paritoshdaurwal9484 read his comment correctly. he is saying something else.
@@vinod7346 Please explain what he was saying because to me it sounds like he was talking about putting them on roads.
@@thechosenone1533 bhai vo keh rha h ki jese road pe chalne wale vehicles ko ethanol powered kiya ja rha h vese hi locomotives ko bhi ethanol powered kiya ja skta h .
@@vinod7346 But uska point nahi hai. Electricity jyada efficient hai. Locomotives se acha uss ethanol ko kahi aur use kar lo.
What about WDAP5 71000 Dual Cab WDP4D converted having Dual Traction 5500 Hp Electric and 4500 Hp Diesel Total 10000 Hp Locomotive Later it Given To Kazipet Shed of South Central Railway and During test It Achieved 150.8 Kmph
Actually I was thinking about the last option. Maybe they should just refurb and attach 1 old diesel loco to all key electric trains. Wlectric grids can go down due to failures and power supply shortage or wars/emergencies. Reliance on electricity is also dangerous and can stop total movement in india in one shot. As u rightfully said keep 1-2 diesel in all yards every 2-4 hours away covering all key routes rather than exporting them away.
I don't think Indian Railway officials have that much brain.
@@imperialenforcer2271 they probably don't
@@imperialenforcer2271 I beg to differ. I really believe railway officials are one of the most intelligent people of this country. Trust me only a miracle can provide movements to 1.4 billion people and that miracle is being done by the railway officials.
I know they are just machines but I literally respect that there presence bcos if they don't exist, millions of priceless memories won't be happen ❤️
Woh bachpan mai joh Excitement Railway station jaane mai orh train mai safar krneh ki Hoti thi naa woh ajj tak koi orh cheez replace nhi kr paayi soo that's why
#❤️Train journeys
*We will miss the Diesel smoke and chugging sounds!* 😕😕
I never had that experience
@@mangeshadbale4337 unlucky
@@PriyanshuV8 ya
I don't think you will mis diesel smoke
@@indiantruckenthusiast9053 how?
India will be successful in full electrification on railway but We should also more focused on Speed and reduce travel time of passengers trains . Have to do fencing for security and fast travel too. Our Logistic cost is much higher so DFC is most important to increase trade.
More Tracks,Good traffic and good sanitation and cleanliness ( Depend on common people)
Great explanations of locos . Nicely made video and great narrative . Thanks for the infos .
Kudos to visionary leadership and cabinet of PM Modi 🙏🏻🇮🇳
Can be used as generators in emergency or remote villages
Solar can be used
Good point, but for that only the generator can be shifted, entire locomotive is not needed.
We railfans can't imagine trains without diesel engines, they will have their own importance.
Just one question is 100% electrification actually good and less polluting.
Answer-- If electricity is from thermal power plant, then diesel is less polluting.
And maintaining electrification on distant area where traffic is less , electric is more costly than diesel.
Agar 100% electrification was good , USA ,China. Europe, Australia would have done it for sure
electrification is good or bad depend on econommics, if on a track the train runs for 2 times a week there is no reason to electrify it, but if 200trains runs on a track in a week, then electrify it as soon as possible
More than the environment, it will save India Billions of dollars on diesel. Secondly, electricity over 35% of India comes from non renewable resources which is way higher than any country.
@@shridam3874 yes . Thermal power plant se banta hai. So from thermal power plant to wheels of train, it is way less efficient than diesel engine
@@barun9665 I am not sure what you mean and maybe in English would help. Like I said, Indian rAilways and India wants to reduce their imports of oil and save their dollars. It’s that simple and with demand, fuel prices will keep rising only. So this is good initiative. In the long run, it could be hard unless Indian railways and coal producing areas improve their connectivity. Finally, the increase of non renewables would also help.
@@shridam3874 I'm saying in terms of efficiency, it is way less than diesel engine when compared to efficiency from thermal power plant to wheels of the electric loco .
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nice move ... balancing diesel engine with electric .. 2 in 1 ... both can be used as per requirement ...
100% electrification is not necessary, we can still run diesel trains at places where electrification will cost too much
Custom bulldozers can be attached to diesel loco to clear tracks of felled trees during cyclones, where OHT would have got affected.
The alternator may also be connected to the engine to provide an emergency power supply to any place around the track affected during emergencies like hurricanes.
Diesel locos can also be attached to existing trains with a suitable alternator to replace the generator van which powers AC in all trains. This way it will resolve dual purpose as power supply to coaches as well as backup loco in case of failure of the electric loco.
Some locos can finally be saved as a heritage for future generations in museums.
Why would electric train use pwer vans they are used on diesel trains
Better make something called "Sustainable Engine Fuel" to replace Diesel for Big Trucks, Buses and Locomotives. That way, diesel can be saved from exhaustion..
Make electric diesel electric loco. It will increase tractive effort as well as reduce fuel cost, can be used during emergency, and for last mile connectivity also.
Bangladesh is going to buy small number of disel locomotives from India that will run in their local system but a huge number of disel locomotives are to used by Bangladesh and India jointly that will run in different cross border freight and passenger trains as their tracks are not electrified.
Diesel locomotive can be disassembled and used to make electric locomotive which is somewhat like recycling
Excellent video with photography and explanation. Thanks too much. Please make video on current work status of Kolhapur Vaibhavwadi rail line work. This route is sanctioned in February 2016 Indian railway budget and hounourable former rail minister Mr SURESH PRABHU Saheb has sanctioned Rs 250 crore Rs to this project but this project is not completed yet. Government of India and railway officers should pay attention to this matter so that this project would be completed in target time 2022 2023. Thanks once again for informative video. God will bless you certainly.
Kya hum diesel locomotives ko hydrogen locomotives me convert kar sakte hai? To fir wo yards aur emergency me use kiya ja sakta hai
Bhai locomotives ko private players ko bhi bech sakte he..... haa ye number kam hoga pr railways ko jo bhi pesa mila ..... ye coaches ko hotels aur restaurants me convert kr sakte he.... plus isko museum, heritage aur tourist attraction bhi bna sakte he.... isse tourism aur service sector jese ki hotel restaurant museum aur other places me use kr sakte he....
Jai hind jai bharat 🇮🇳❤🙏
Sir ek WDP KO electric Kai 2in1...mtlb electric or diesel dono pr chal skta h uska ky hua sir
I hope new type of trains run in the system..i mean the existing train sets looks like of 1990
Electrification isliye kar rhe jise hum global warming kam karske par bijli coal se banti hai power plant mai hum train mai use hone vali bijli ko renewable energy mai kiase use kre
I think Diesel engines will also be used in railway museum so as to show growth of Indian railways across time
Diesel locomotives is our emotion 🥺👉🏻👈🏻
One more way where diesel locomotives can be fully usitilised is border area transportation as in border area electrification is risky & mostly avoided then there diesel locomotives is best alternative for transportating military equipment.... You should have mentioned this in your video
A hole year i was waiting for this video brother please make an video on the topic Agra-northeast hvdc project please brother i am requesting this to you from a long time 🙏🙏
We are also trying to convert diesel locomotives into Hydrogen ones
Itna sab jhanjath karne se accha hai ki Disel engine me Kuch chqnges karke or koi esa eco frindly fuel bana liya jaye like hydrogen ya etenol ya something like produce by waste material jo ki 100 percent eco frindly ho usse hoga yeh ki disel engine ki chugging or alco action dekhne ko milte rahenge jo ki indian Railways ki jaan hai warna to electric loco chahe jitne bhi powerful bana liye jaye wo alco wala maza kabhi nhi ayega ❤
Knowledge is Power💪📛
Power is power
@@chiragvines272 Yes right 🔥
The railways can use removed rails and sleepers for light rail systems which is for local connectivity economically and solve the unemployment problem
We got wdg4g and 6g incase overhead wire fails so I hope wdg4g and 6g helps in situation like this
purani govt.
We use them as moving nuclear sites by installing agni and prithvi missiles and mainly use these nuclear sites near border area.. Whats about it
New line k liye electrification se pahle saare kaam ( gitti , sleeper , track laying , trial , electrification ) diesel locomotive se hi hote hn aur future mn bhi hongay.
i hope electrification means removal of 2 generator car in LHB coach which uses diesel, also
Its not possible to run whole railway system with electric locomotives. No where in the world this has happened.
Solar power may be the Alternative option as well as self electric generation technology should be used which were using nowadays to provide electricity for coaches like lHB coaches
This locomotives can be used in border areas during emergency
Just run those locomotives on enemy 😎
Nah trains are useless in war as they are sitting ducks
After 2014 all development in every sectors is done in less than 8 to 9 years which was not done in last 60 to 70 years.thanks modiji.he is only working for good & welfare of people.
could be used as a backup diesel generator in emergency situations
Aisa toh h nhi ki jb electrificagion ho jayega tb diesel engine kaam krna bnd kr denge...aaram se use kr skte hai kya prblm h
Current Indian govt doing good job towards railways highways air water ways infrastructure development
wow its a really infomative video
Jai Hind Vande Mataram 👏👏👏
Resarvation ka chakkar kese khatam ho us topic pe video banaya.
Full electrification will be a challenge in higher altitudes and it will take time. So diesel engines are here to stay.
Electrification work which our Government is doing is a very good work. But I don't know that will Electrification succeed in areas like Karnataka, Rajasthan and Assam. Bcoz in Karnataka and Assam Ghat sections is more and tracks have been built with very difficulty. In Rajasthan also bcoz of high temperatures laying Electric Caternary Wires is very difficult.
mere hisab se to most of diesel locos will be used as shunters and like some of them will be abonded and some of hem will be modified with electric power
मोदी है तो मुमकिन है। जय श्रीराम।
Diesel locomotives are also used in Northeast India.
gandhigram to botad line electrification work update display coach no , display board thesh work chya chehe
WDP 4D is my favourite locomotive all time 🤩🤩🤩
It's better to keep some diesel locomotives coz in time of Natural disaster u can't get electric if .. power lines are Cutoff ....so keep diesel locomotives for emergency purpose
10% engine डीजल के रखने चाहिए सेफ्टी के लिए अगर किसी कारण ग्रिड बंध हो जाए तो प्रोब्लम ना हो
0:30 Video Shri vishnodevi ki haa❤️
#Askpt any more freight corridor upcoming
High speed trials mein diesel locomotive ka use Kiya ja sakta hai kyunki diesel locomotive electric locomotive se jyada powerful hota hai aur uski speed bhi jyada hoti..
Hydrogen based locomotive is best option and effective then electric and desiel
#AskPT- india ki electric trains ( locomotives) old design ki kyu lagti hai ?( wahi china and japan ke trains futuristic lagte hai). India me hum log Japan and china ki tarah trains ko futuristic designs kyu nahi dete hai?
Bhai waha par Lalu parsad rail Mantri nhi hai na or wha par self propelled train hai like train 18 or India m 2014 k baad railway par kaam suru hua hai pahle to bandh hone ko thi railway 🙏🙏
Indian railways is coming in that era by 2026
All Diesel Locomotive must convert into Hydrogen Locomotive for shunting operations..!!
Train ki speed teji se badhna chahiye .bahut dheemi gati se train chalti hai .speed par govt. Jyada se jyada dhyaan de
Backup, emergency, shunting
There's need for diesel locomotive
When railways only don't know what are they going to do with diesel locomotives, how can you tell 🤔
They will dont underastimate diesel locomtives.
The diesel locomotives are much needed in hill areas.
Hybridization of diesel locomotives.
Eg: WDAP 5.
Diesel locomotives should be or can be converted into green fuel locomotives in long term as alternative
What if the Indian Railway makes diesel-electric locomotives? They can run up 300 km/h like the TGV, the Thalys, etc.
I think india govt. Should convert this engine into a hybrid engine (electric +diesel) because in emergency situations, war or other climate problem mein diesel hi kampe ayega electric unavailable honese problem hoga bahut
In some countries the locomotives can be used both as diesel and electrical locomotives. This is modern technology. India should find a similar solution this problem rather than making diesel locomotives redundant.
Already happening in India, should watch video carefully
Already developed in India
But not economical to use
Recently my town Udupi which comes under konkan railway electrified
Jai sri Krishna
What will happen? Same thing that happened to steam locomotives.
Same thing what happed to bullock carts
Convert into hydrogen locomotive
We don't have the technology for that as of now. (only for car)
@@Lameboredghini ok no problem
Try one as a experimental piece
@@indiantechnology7546 they are trying it
bro har bada station pa in diesel locomotive ko rakhna jarori ha kyuki kahi accident ho jayega to inki jarurat hogi jasa corona kal ma oxygen exp ka sath diesel engine tha😀😀
@PowerTrain What is the prospect of converting Diesel locos to Hydrogen based locos or Ethanol or LPG or CNG based locos ??
Can you comment and do a detailed technical video on that ?????
Hey, don't copy my Idea. I will make hydrogen engine
@@DJ-xe8nr What nonsense !!! Don't comment with zero knowledge....
Diesel is not used for its power density.
The following list compares the power/energy density of the various fuel types.
Fuel Type -- Energy Density(MJ/kg)
-------------------------------------------------------
Ethanol -- 26.8
Biodiesel -- 38
Crude oil -- 44
Diesel -- 45
Gasoline/Petrol -- 46
Natural gas -- 55
Power density is more in Petrol and Natural Gas (LNG/CNG).
The reason why diesel is used is "safety".
Petrol create a vapour which toxic, highly explosive and unstable at the same time. The risk of explosion increases further when the whole platform is tremendously shaking the whole time.
The risk can only be mitigated (not eliminated) by letting the vapour escape but that would greatly reduce the final thrust output of the whole engine making it commercial unsustainable. On top of that Petrol is always more costly than diesel.
But a calculated mix of Ethanol and Biodiesel can reach the power density quite near to Diesel but at a significantly lower cost. So even if the overall fuel consumption will increase the lower per unit costs will offset that. Additionally the pollution and maintenance costs will go down drastically with Ethanol and Biodiesel. Only challenge is that it needs new types of engines.
Natural Gas has the highest power density but the lowest per unit cost, pollution and maintenance. But it needs a lot of R&D to prove that it is safe and doesn't pose threats of explosion similar to petrol vapours.
That is what I was curious about.
@@debajyotidutta6795 you must be a dumb donkey that's why you asked such a stupid knowledge...lol...and used wikipedia to comment. Anyways i thought i would share some knowledge which I have gathered in the last few years studying transportation engg as a researcher and yet you speak in such a shitty way....
Going to miss diesel locomotives in future
It will be very foolish to completely dismantle diesel locomotives. Diesel locomotives will always be necessary for many purposes because it is self propelled. Adding further even steam locomotives should revived again as a third backup!
wdp4d covert to electrical loco
5000 hp convert to Wdap4d.
lhs type loco as no idea.
Excellent video
Inn Diesal locomotives ka booma boom ho jayega.
Complete electrification is simply stupid, diesel locomotives are an integral part of any railway system and are NECESSARY for it's maintenance, not optional.
2:27 thats is ambernath railway station
Saray deseal locomotive ko goods train pull karaney keliye rakha jaye to
I guess there metal would be used in the upcoming train engine