We miss you, Mike. Would have loved to have listened to all the lectures you wanted to make. As it is, you answered questions I had carried around for decades, and then you gave me new questions, which is the best gift ever. I hope God gives you a scroll teaching job in the new Eden.
Finally, you are back! This was a great discussion for readers of the Patristic Era like me. I finished the whole thing and great job on the multifaceted insights regarding the hermeneutics of antiquity. I think it is vital for the evangelical church movement today to understand how to be properly critical in understanding the scriptural interpretation methods of the Church Fathers concerning the Creation account of Genesis 1. Keep on posting more, please? God bless your ministry!
Dr. Heiser, usually enormously productive, has been fighting for his life this year with pancreatic cancer. But if you're looking for content his podcast has hundreds of hours of amazing in-depth teaching. "The naked bible podcst".
@@dolly7639 Thanks, I am familiar with and subscribed to Heiser all over including his official TH-cam channel which has semi regular uploads of short snippets from his lectures. What I meant is that this channel itself, Houseform Apologetics, hasn't uploaded in a long time! The topic Naked Bible Podcast 251 is actually from a long time back.
This comment is very late in coming but I continue to be reminded by content that I usually have no idea what the ABC's of this community stand for. Please try to refer to groups, organizations, theologies etc. by full names rather than initials. It would make it so much easier to follow your subject. thanks.
Well, no one should pick and choose a Church father and paint with a broad brush that church fathers believed young or old earth when we have diversity in them. The YEC are very selective They don't do justice to this subject by qouting the church fathers Among OEC, Hugh Ross is familiar with this problem Alexandrian guys were talked out to have more allegory than syprian? But they would never want to go out of the text...they'd go into the text and from there would try to gain a deeper grasp to the truths of they could .... Very few have it as 6 days creation and that also one guy was like okay it's six days and then what ..... Augustine later even said that to believe that simplistically is foolish or STH Justin had said Jesus was second God ....until iraneus came and he elaborated more The church fathers had a different scenario than now. They saw what was in the text and struggled ... It was hard for them to understand and articulate what was in the text since nk foundation had been laid in Christendom ...
what hogtrash. if the scripture is perspicacious as heiser claims, in reality who cares about the so called fathers who left the gospel behind even when Paul was still alive they preferred the law and confused judaism.
Oneness the faith of Abraham. Trinity the faith of Constantine. See Acts 2:38,8:16,10:48,19:5,22:16 not one triune water baptism recorded in the Jewish oracles of God. What if the Bible is true and water baptism in the name of the Lord is for the remission of sins?
Preach it from the mountaintops the closest thing I can get is the cleansing of the priest and his garments before going into the temple. And possibly crossing the threshing floor. And possibly somehow connecting a Mikvah but for us who believe I think it has more to do with entering it into God's print presents cleansed the priests were. Everything Jesus Yeshua taught his disciples period had to do with becoming priests. Phenomenal understanding. Always the higher calling
Genesis 1:1-3 show the Trinity at the beginning of creation backed by John one for the Word in verse 3. Jesus being the literal voice of God and His own personhood as the Holy Spirit is also, per verse 2 the Spirit of the Lord is it's own distinct entity because it stood alone over the waters. Not to mention the rest of the bible, all over it it supports the Trinity as 3 persons in 1 being. If that is still confusing Google the difference between being and person.
We miss you, Mike. Would have loved to have listened to all the lectures you wanted to make. As it is, you answered questions I had carried around for decades, and then you gave me new questions, which is the best gift ever. I hope God gives you a scroll teaching job in the new Eden.
Finally, you are back! This was a great discussion for readers of the Patristic Era like me. I finished the whole thing and great job on the multifaceted insights regarding the hermeneutics of antiquity. I think it is vital for the evangelical church movement today to understand how to be properly critical in understanding the scriptural interpretation methods of the Church Fathers concerning the Creation account of Genesis 1.
Keep on posting more, please? God bless your ministry!
This podcast has given me a new found respect for the church fathers. Definitely going to delve into the church fathers a bit more after this
Wow a new video at last! I had the 'good timing' of discovering your channel just around the time you stopped uploading stuff.
Dr. Heiser, usually enormously productive, has been fighting for his life this year with pancreatic cancer. But if you're looking for content his podcast has hundreds of hours of amazing in-depth teaching. "The naked bible podcst".
@@dolly7639 Thanks, I am familiar with and subscribed to Heiser all over including his official TH-cam channel which has semi regular uploads of short snippets from his lectures. What I meant is that this channel itself, Houseform Apologetics, hasn't uploaded in a long time! The topic Naked Bible Podcast 251 is actually from a long time back.
The Good die young. I miss Dr. Heiser, his son and the “pugcast”.
This comment is very late in coming but I continue to be reminded by content that I usually have no idea what the ABC's of this community stand for. Please try to refer to groups, organizations, theologies etc. by full names rather than initials. It would make it so much easier to follow your subject. thanks.
Which ones did you need to know when you wrote this? I can probably fill in for you.
Honesty I'd like to know what you guys think about these issues, not just find out that they exist, we know they exist. Love the channel though.
Also, sadly, Dr. Heiser passed away around this time last year.
Which ones did you need to know when you wrote this? I can probably fill in for you.
Well, no one should pick and choose a Church father and paint with a broad brush that church fathers believed young or old earth when we have diversity in them.
The YEC are very selective
They don't do justice to this subject by qouting the church fathers
Among OEC,
Hugh Ross is familiar with this problem
Alexandrian guys were talked out to have more allegory than syprian?
But they would never want to go out of the text...they'd go into the text and from there would try to gain a deeper grasp to the truths of they could ....
Very few have it as 6 days creation and that also one guy was like okay it's six days and then what .....
Augustine later even said that to believe that simplistically is foolish or STH
Justin had said Jesus was second God ....until iraneus came and he elaborated more
The church fathers had a different scenario than now. They saw what was in the text and struggled ...
It was hard for them to understand and articulate what was in the text since nk foundation had been laid in Christendom ...
what hogtrash. if the scripture is perspicacious as heiser claims, in reality who cares about the so called fathers who left the gospel behind even when Paul was still alive they preferred the law and confused judaism.
Oneness the faith of Abraham.
Trinity the faith of Constantine.
See Acts 2:38,8:16,10:48,19:5,22:16 not one triune water baptism recorded in the Jewish oracles of God.
What if the Bible is true and water baptism in the name of the Lord is for the remission of sins?
Preach it from the mountaintops the closest thing I can get is the cleansing of the priest and his garments before going into the temple. And possibly crossing the threshing floor. And possibly somehow connecting a Mikvah but for us who believe I think it has more to do with entering it into God's print presents cleansed the priests were. Everything Jesus Yeshua taught his disciples period had to do with becoming priests. Phenomenal understanding. Always the higher calling
@@brettweiner63 Check out Michael Roods 3 part Mikvah series
Thank you received
not quite true very limited
Genesis 1:1-3 show the Trinity at the beginning of creation backed by John one for the Word in verse 3. Jesus being the literal voice of God and His own personhood as the Holy Spirit is also, per verse 2 the Spirit of the Lord is it's own distinct entity because it stood alone over the waters. Not to mention the rest of the bible, all over it it supports the Trinity as 3 persons in 1 being. If that is still confusing Google the difference between being and person.