Labyrinth of Nightmare | The History of Yu-Gi-Oh! #10
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• The History of Yu-Gi-Oh!
Welcome to episode 10 of The History of Yu-Gi-Oh! In each episode, MBT and I will be piloting some of the most powerful decks throughout Yu-Gi-Oh's history to chronicle the evolution of power creep as new cards and sets entered the game!
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Now that Cimo's been bothered by enough comments telling him to draw for turn, maybe it's time for the comments to tell him to actually take battle damage.
The wheel: was added to prevent boring mirror matches from happening.
Also the wheel: Beatdown and only beatdown. Take it or leave it.
And Control
By forcing MBT to play Control and Cimooo being a control player at heart and playing anything in a control way
The History of Beatdown.
Sounds like a dope name for a fighting game lol.
More like the conception of beatdown
Apparently Mystic Tomato has an additional effect "you do not take battle damage from battles involving this card" in this series ;)
Wow, I never realized how many effects are hidden on Mystic Tomato. Between this and the special ability to switch between Attack and Defense Position, it really is a powerhouse of a card.
First game, cimooooo forgot to loose 300HP for the attack of the tomatoes against his witch. And this would have given MBT lethal on the first game with the change of heart.
But mbt forgot his 450 on game 3 with mechanical chaser. The comment council decrees the mistakes cancel each other out lol
@@jameslucrative2054 Eeeeeeeeeeh, considering it costed the first game to MBT, and the 450 the 3rd game didn't change anything, I am quitting this corrupted council 😂
@@jameslucrative2054 it does not actually because the Game 3 would have never happened if Cimo would actually pay attention to basic game play. I've dueled literal children with better attention to core gameplay mechanics.
And cimo didn’t take 800 from premature burial game 3!!!!!!
@@rds1659 Only been watching for about a week, and it's quite obvious they have good reason to make constant jokes about forgetting things. XD
I think just for the sake of seeing it just once, someone needs to play burn/mill. The wheel isn't doing a great job at giving us variety XD
The wheel sucks and needs to go.
I agree!
Cimo already played Mill
Although Cimoooooooo already got to play mill/burn once I think we never got to see what the deck was capable of. I think they should cut beat down off the wheel or get rid of the wheel completely, beat down decks really make for a boring/repetitive game in this format :/
I agree 100 % , I think It'd be better to get rid of the wheel completely. The wheel is fun to watch when it's for ban list predictions, but for this....eeh... I'd say some other kind of penalty to the loser like having to include a bad card from one of the legal sets to the deck, would be more fun to watch.... dunno like having to add swordsmand of landstar, trent or shapesnacht to the deck; some joke cards in short. Something like that.
25:25 That Call Of Haunted into Jinzo play was Illegal as JInzo should have been added to MBT's hand due to the effect of Cyber Jar (24:05 - 24:13).
Though it's also Cimooo's fault for not thinking about how MBT needs to add the cards to the hand, they both goofed here, not that it really changed too much since it would have ended up in the grave after morphing jar goes off, and I'm guessing Cimoo might have kept the post morphing jar play about the same with how MBT's hand was.
Yeah Jinzo and Torrential
18:37 Cimo didnt take 300 from the mystic tomato attacking witch of the black forest, which wouldve changed game 1 because then MBT couldve change of hearted the dark elf and attacked for game since Cimo was at 2200 30:50 as well
I just wrote the same comment
@@KaineFolse-xu2he was looking for this comment, I noticed it too.
In the first duel jinzo and torrential tribute should have went to MBT’s hand.
They BOTH forgot things and as sutch it DOSEN'T MATTER. It's their OWN fault if they lost.
yeah but then cimo activates morphing jar so it's the same
@@nataniel1002 all the more reason for him to wear the shirt of shame
Cimoooooo also forgot to lose 300 LP from Witch
@@Kuchiri That was the most relevant misplay for sure. If he had taken it, he would have been 1900 lp, which was in range for MBT to Change of Heart the Dark Elf for game.
MBT should legally win game 1, Cimoo forgot to decrease his lp in 18:40 and MBT could just change of heart dark elf and attack for game.
Yup
Yeah was kind of annoyed that Cimo just magically forgot that witch is 1100 attack and that tomato was 1400 attack.
Lol it's the first time I've noticed one of those mistakes while watching and now I understand how it makes the other commenters feel! It's v frustrating. While that is true, as somebody else pointed out the jinzo play with COH was illegal because cyber jar should have put it to hand, and without that maybe MBT would have lost anyway. Very interesting tho, but still a pretty fun game so.
Cimo cheated? What a shocker
;p;
You seeing so many illegal plays these guys make unintentionally, maybe they should have a judge over see the matches lol
Oh especially in game 1
Seriously! I could swear that setting a normal spell locks it there until your next turn!
@@Undrave it doesn’t, you can play normal spells you set on the same turn, but funnily you can’t do that with quick play spells.
@@Rarlin10 That's how we played it back then. That's why that card that forces you to set Spells before you get to play them was devastating. If you could just flip 'em up on the same turn it wouldn't work... I guess the situation didn't came up that often, nobody had Morphing jar :p
@@Undrave if you’re talking about anti spell fragrance, it specifically has the text “you can’t activate the cards the turn you set it”, which is why it worked effectively.
control deck + 3 dark elvs ---> beatdown
seems fair
Game 1: Cimoo never took damage for the witch dying to tomato so his final life count should have been 1900 which would have been low enough for him to loose to the change of heart dark elf play he said he could have done
"He could have played the Witch, but a face down could be anything. It could even be a Witch!"
Cimo: *resolves cyber jar*
*mills 5 banned cards*
Must be nice
They werent banned in that format so yeah thats even nicer
It's fun watching these because I'm learning the timeline where all the busted cards that will never leave the F/L list came out and honestly hearing that Graceful Charity came out so long after Pot of Greed was slapped to 1 copy is kind of wild to me.
It's even more shocking that Graceful Charity was at three, and then only got Semi-Limited instead of Limited. Yu-Gi-Oh! is wild.
I've been playing for 2 years and I still don't really know what TeleDAD does, I'm really excited to eventually find out
@@Cimoooooooo Heavy Storming your own Snatch Steal is old school Yu-Gi-Oh in a nutshell.
@@Cimoooooooo Can you do a game of modern yugioh with everything at 3? I don't thing some cards are as busted as people think!
It's not a +1, it's probably fine right? I mean how many good graveyard effects are there really in Yugioh /s
This just looks like Control v Control instead of Control v Beatdown
Welcome ot old school yu-gi-oh in which every deck was basically the same
@@pandaman1331 they gotta just get rid of the wheel until it actually matters then. To be fair they both played an aggro deck but MBT was closer to control than Cimo was to Beatdown
@@cc_tronny true true. I understand the reasoning of Cimo for not playing united we stand but Mage Power with all these trap and spell cards is a must have in a beatdown deck. If you don't include it than it's just another control deck. MBTs deck looked a lot like early hand control. Guess we are getting closer to the meta decks that are actually documented at yu-gi-oh topdecks
thats cimo for you .... he can make a electromite turbo set 5 pass ...
i really want to see mbt play mill/burn
Can we get Distantcoder to sit in on these matches? The "accepted game states" are getting out of control
Duelling Book is fine but EDOPRO does all the heavy lifting. I'm not sure if they can use banned cards and/or pre-errate'd stuff in private matches, though.
@@pickyphysicsstudent201 previous ygopro has a goat format mode where you can use the pre errata
When you guys get to formats with more decks and archetypes you guys should do a king of the hill type scenario like they do in hearthstone
How does it work in HS?
bring 3 decks, you must keep playing the same deck until it loses, each deck has 1 loss and its knocked out
first to knock out all their opponent’s decks wins
@@mikolao they should bring 4 and ban one each, and it’ll also show their judgments on what deck they think there opponent would open with as well as what deck they think is more dominant that format
@@alikcd That sounds awesome.
Great ideas here
Game 1 cimo didn’t take the 300 from the battle from mystic tomato vs black witch and MBT didn’t get his torrential off of cyber jar
And he didn’t add the jinzo
45:05 congratulations Cimo for remembering your first turn draw!!!! :D :D :D :D
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@Cimoooooooo good job btw what’s your favorite yugioh card
@@levithedum Wasn't it Silent swordsman?
@@levithedum He has said his favorite is Breaker the Magical Warrior.
Now he just needs to remember to take battle damage
I like how he tries his best to pass the time while cirno is calculating and explaining all of the possible outcomes of his every card
30:34
Pot of Greed into Morphing Jar and Cyber Jar... That's some weird juju
I was immediately punished for my greed.
And it happened twice!!!
@@Cimoooooooo ;truee
@@ManwichtheMan like seriously
Some misplays in game 1- should have lost 300 from tomato attacking witch. Cyber jar cards you can’t play go to hand not GY
The wheel is a huge beatdown stan, apparently.
And Cimo doesn't know what beatdown even is
I honestly think that we should have a judge for this matches.
Ya a lot of bad stuff happened in game 1
But what if judge makes mistakes?
Then you get a second judge to judge the first judge.
@@cybzer0560 Do you work for the NHS? Making jobs for the sake jobs.
Why not just play on anything that isn't dueling book
@@oceanoccupant1761 Cause they use old errata effects, which the automated programs don't do.
Joseph: *has 1 card in hand* “I summon my Gemini Elf, the only card in my hand.”
Alex: “Prepare to hear me narrate aloud every possible outcome of every move in the history of Yu-Gi-Oh in response to this one move, and then also forget to take life point damage from battle while playing a ‘beatdown’ deck that’s half control-based flip monsters.”
Mbt should've won game 1 sorry cimo but you didn't subtract them life points from the tomatoes
For Clarification: Cimo Should have 300 HP less form the Attack on 18:40 what would be enough with MBTs Change of Heart on 29:40. (Cimo at 2200 would actually be 1900)
Game one was a mess. Jinzo should have been in hand not the grave when MBT activated COTH. As well as TT but that would have been discarded by morphing jar anyway. So many illegal plays. Clownary.
That said, mbt was blind and never called him on it. Also mbt forgot to take damage in game 3 as well and cimo missed that so they're both misplaying. Both players are responsible for keeping track of life points and they both missed it, so cimo wins.
MBT didn't notice so it's his fault too
@@syan7558 Technically you're right, but it still makes the win unearned, if Cimo realizes what happened he won't be able to brag, he'll be apologetic about it and may even put on the shirt of shame instead of MBT, unless both of them brush it off as not a big deal and laugh about it which is fine too.
I think Cimo is incapable of playing anything other than Control, even the last game it was a control deck
Alex, you missed the 300 from tomato crashing witch in game 1
Yeah, this is exactly the entire Jinzo Era. Endless Beatdowns everywhere. I was actually in a 100 man tournament and placed third, and control decks usually only ran 2 or 3 cards that wasn't also shared by the Jinzo beatdown. Equips were also king because you really needed a way to win the inevitable Jinzo Duels.
"Will you be paying for Imperial Order?" sounds like the greatest out of context text to be put on a t-shirt. It sounds so forceful it's perfect lol
it's so fun watching these video's because I remember playing in tournaments back when these sets came out and what we played then was very different to what they play here. Magic Cylinders did hit the limited list for a reason, strange to see no one playing it
So now instead of forgetting to draw, you guys keep forgetting to deduct life points...
Can't they change that to auto or something?
@@jesters08joker Not on DB
DB has very little automation
@Storm PooPer You can't play with pre-errata in YGOPro afaik
One day ill see Burn/Mill in this series ;_;
Hopefully in magican’s force
Spoiler
@@LeAndre_McCoy how is it a spoiler
@@levithedum it implies no one spun mill/burn
Not as long as the wheel keeps demanding otherwise
Man, the wheel really likes beatdown.
Well, seeing one of these videos go well over an hour makes me think that my consistently hour-long Pokemon TCG Progression isn't a bad thing. Can't wait for more of these and Progression for sure!
Take a look wimper snappers..this is how Yugioh was "Back in our day". It was actually FUN: Games lasting more than 2 turns. No setting up un breakable boards on the first turn.
Cimo didn't lost lp when the tomato chushed into his witch in game 1 therefore he shouldn't have enought lp to pay the 1000 lp for the attacks
I love how the start of each game makes it sound like Neo and Trinity are about to shoot up an office building.
I love how every five minutes we get updated on what cimooo thinks his opponent's hand is.
OMG!!! The amount of misplays and illegal actions is just insane!
ACTUALLY, the best option in game 3 for Painful Choice was anything else besides Snatch Steal lol. Paying half his life points to summon anything put him in kill range with Premature Burial. Tributing anything it for Jinzo with Monster Reborn or Burial only to give you the same board presence, either crashing over your jinzo left you with Tomato OR killing tomato gave you anything to finish him off because YOU could then crash and kill him with Tomato. Raigeki and Dark Hole pop your board but he still wouldn’t have been able to summon Jinzo and that leaves him wide open for The Jars to do as they please (before you Painful Choiced all your beaters to grave lol.)
Love the series, keep up the good work!
When you compare and see 2003's and 2020's Yugioh next to each other, it becomes very crazy to accept how much the game's changed.
Cimo Not taking that first 300LP damage in the beginning ASAP made me yell at that screen... lol
I like how Cimo set some spells in main 1 and then activated them in main 2 of the same turn
MBT communicating with the audience via camera is pog
I know these episodes are already super long, but I'd be really interested to seeing the thought process on side decking during these type of videos because theres a lot of adapting that goes into it and I'd like to know what the thought process is.
Cimo is so great at the game that he forgets to take tiny damage or LP cost and thinks that the viewers won't notice
We need an episode 10.5 due to the big game changing mistakes in this episode. MBT should get to play a burn deck in this episode as punishment for Cimo's transgressions.
Just wanna put it out there:
For me, personally, the intricate look through each other's decks didnt seem like a waste of time at all. I found it super interesting and fun, so I wouldnt mind if you took more time to do it in another episode. Just my two cents, though, great video, so far. Quality content as always, I can't wait to see who takes this one!
When MBT wins next episode I want him to immediately take off the Shirt of Shame and do the post-game commentary shirtless.
Suggestion:
How about both players bring 3 different decks and if you lose a match you may no longer use said deck?
That way we might get to see more deck veriety per game and later on it might stop mirror matches between the deck that was clearly on top for that meta.
18:37 Cimo didnt take 300 from the mystic tomato attacking witch of the black forest, which wouldve changed game 1 because then MBT couldve change of hearted the dark elf and attacked for game since Cimo was at 2200 30:50
yep0
are we going to ignore how mbt won game 1. cimo did not take 300 from tomato on witch so the dark elf could not go for game 18:30 30:00
i mean if you dont get caught cheating by opponent i guess its fair game xD
It's all pretty unintentional and can be easily avoided by playing on anything that isn't dueling book
I really enjoy that they are taking time to ensure that they are using a different strategy (not necessarily of their choice either) to show off multiple different play styles and deck types. That’s something really interesting to look at on the grand acale
In game one, cimooooo should have lost 300 life points when tomato went over his witch. This mattered at 29:32, when MBT could change of heart Dark Elf for game. He only didn't because he thought it wasn't lethal.
MBT: I'mma have to do Laundry at some point.
The Dragonmaid? You live in the Dragonmaid Mansion?
Control and beatdown aren't really different enough to be considered different decks. They both run goodstuffs and win via battle damage. You could even argue that tt could be good in beatdown and uo could be good in control. I feel like the wheel should be burn/mill and goodstuffs. That way each week wouldn't basically be the same matchup over and over again. Love the series regardless tho, keep up the good work!
40:30 THIS IS WHY YOU RUN TRI-HORNED DRAGON!
You know, even older players can benefit from watching this. Even though I'm only playing Link Evolution on the Switch, this series - and the other one - are making me think more about the plays I'm making when I'm on that game. It's helping to sharpen my skills and think more about the theory of the game.
2:35 Huh.... The Wheel just doesn't want Burn / Mill
13:05 MBT keeps flexing With the Sleeves
15:50 Cimoooo's Beatdown Deck proving is just Control disguised
23:40 Cyber Jar! DO YOUR THING!!!
1:01:55 Poor MBT
I love the progression/history of yugioh series by both people. think there should be an unofficial judge watching these to avoid mishaps which I would gladly volunteer for. Lol also it’s the turn player who “draws”/reveals cards for cyber jar. Great job guys keep up the good work. Shootout to nymnym always cheering for you
Something has to be wrong with the wheel, in the last 7 spins, 6 have been best down 😂
DRAW FOR TURN! :D
Anyway love the series! I love that people got to see that intersting gameplay exists in theese formats too! Because it is! Even more intersting than nowadays in my opinion...
we stan MBT regardless of any plays or misplays he makes
End of game 1 - If he woulda Change of Heart your Dark Elf, he coulda attacked for game.
Cuz Cimo was actually at 1900 LP (not 2200LP) - due to forgetting to calculate the 300 lost from Tomato attacking his Witch near the start of Game 1.
Paper strategy works for MBT this time. Maybe it'll work again next week that is unless cimo learns to go scissors! It will be intense either way!
Here is the score:
Cimo:
Matches: 6-4
Games: 14-12
RPS: 4
MBT:
Matches: 4-6
Games: 12-14
RPS: 6
honestly, at this point, I feel like the wheel can say goodbye, I really wanna see Burn/Mill in action instead of the same control/beatdown decks with slight changes over and over every week.
You guys need to throw the wheel out and just run burn/mill already!
Oh come on.. just make it so the winner chooses his playstyle, instead of having a second spin. : /
my favorite part of any history talk is when they take out the game show-esque wheel
Cimo missed taking 300 damage during the Mystic Tomato train when he special summoned a Witch of the black forest in the first game! And MBT missed 450 damage in another Mystic Tomato train in game 3!
Also in the first game, Jinzo and Torrential Tribute should`ve gone to MBT`s hand because of Cyber jar!
I like MBT always makes a play and then immediately reverts it, brings me back to all my dark hole activations
Honestly, it doesn't matter what the wheel says, BOTH of you will just bring a CONTROL deck to the game and say it is "Beatdown" because control is just sooo much better with lots of removal. With the way this is going, you guys may someday do a Witch/Sangan "beatdown" deck because of how strong the removal cards get. A beatdown deck where there are more removal than combo pieces needed to OTK your opponent just doesn't feel like beatdown at all. It is just control deck with good level 4 monsters
I'm not sure Cimo could've seen MBT's deck after using Nobleman game 1, all 3 copies of Magician of Faith were banished already, so there's nothing to verify
I love these videos, I just wish there was a way to prevent game-changing mistakes/rulings 😭 it feels bad watching knowing someone else should've won
they need a judge
I keep mentioning it since a couple of episodes ago but they should just switch to EdoPro instead of continuing with duelingbook. EdoPro also has all the pre-errata cards but also let's you choose the Master Rule. Plus, you can just turn off the ban list. It would be perfect for this series but they for some reason insist on continuing with duelingbook
@@pandaman1331 I seriously don't get the point of why you do a series like this on dueling book is it to make sure every episode is over 30 minutes long I genuinely don't know
@@oceanoccupant1761 Its so they can manually change shit
@@skeletonwar4445 fair enough
Congrats, Cimoooooooo on 250k subscribers!! JUST WOW!! Come to this far on your journey.
That Shirt of Shame's Magic Cylinder sleeves though. 😂😂😂💀💀💀
Setting morphing jar #2 off of cyber jar was the fatal mistake of game 1
Cimooo forgot to take 300 damage in game 1, which actually made the difference since the change of heart on dark elf would have been enough for game.
Alex breaks Tom's win streak. Tom wears The Shirt of Shame again.
We have to teach these boys to play yugioh, how to draw cards and take damage, before long they'll forget you only get 1 normal summon
The fact that Cimo and MBT played almost the same deck despite rolling what should be completely different decks makes me feel like the spirit of the wheel is being pushed to the way side. When I think beatdown, I think big beaters with cards to help you break through, or an equipment strategy. They both just played control...
This format was actually the most fun till now
Funny how pot of greed wasnt so absurd in this context
I'm actually shocked they haven't started realizing Trunade should be in the main deck instead of the side deck yet.
Look it was used to reset Swords, Snatch, Premo, Call, equip spells and more. The fact that you got to remove opps cards like Call, swords and more was a huge swing alongside having the ability reset your spells was crazy. Say ok Swords is about to expire Trunade to reset it or Premo into doing that again since Premo only destroys the monster when the card is destroyed and not if it's returned to the hand.
I forgot you also wanted to include Dust tornado in the main deck as that was your out to order and was still useful as spell and trap removal.
10:58 - I remember when I first got into yugioh and didn't really know the rules and mostly played like the anime "500 for a summon? that's dumb, why would I do that?"
Cimoooooo forgot to take 300lp in game one and Jinzo and TT would have been added to the hand.
Game 3 MBT forgot to take 450lp.
FYI the resolution of NoC does not allow you to do what they do. You can’t memorize every card in their deck, it’s simply to verify the card resolved correctly. In fact the majority of players in goat format on DB do not deck check on NoC
when someone activates heavy storm, can you activate call of the haunted in response to bring back a sangan/witch, call gets destroyed, they pop and have their effects activate? or am i wrong? :)
I'm screaming in how jinzo and the spell is not sent to his hand. Wtf???
Wow, the comments simply don't understand art. We were OBVIOUSLY roleplaying being 9 years old in 2003 when we messed up LP and Cyber Jar. ;)
When we were playing during this format Goblin Atk.Frc. was the premier beat down to get around his drawback we just used waboku or mag.cyl. to protect him thats what won games and we also used 2 summoned skulls and jinzo with soul exchange and with the recyclable cards like call premature monster reborn it was a staple and easily searched with witch gemini elf and la jinn with a man's vailo kycoo or bazoo seeing limited play they were usually found in the side deck with trunade feather duster and cold wave and until it was limited 3 M.S.T.'s
I see some people saying the wheel sucks and while I don't totally agree I think it limits the series in some ways. If you really want to play a certain deck the wheel can just say no. How many times have we gotten beatdown? I'm not saying 'wheel bad', just 'play what you want if you want to'. Maybe instead of double spin you can just pick?
I just can't wait for Penguin Soldier, probably my second favorite card of all time
Labyrinth of nightmare is possibly my most favourite original set. 😮 Such good times.
This first game was a mess. 300 damage missed from Tomato running over Witch, and Jinzo/TT were left in the graveyard instead of going to MBT's hand. Game would've been quite different otherwise.
Im confused by the MST ; Imperial Order interaction. When MBT played it, Cimo played MST from his hand and that destroyed it, but when MBT activated MST, Cimo activated Imperial Order to prevent it destroying Imperial Order? How does that work? Is it purely a timing thing? Isnt that like activating Trap Hole on a Jinzo?
The jinzo goes to the hand if I'm remembering Cyber Jar correctly. (Look it's been a while since I read the card)
I haven’t watch all of it yet but I know I will love it
Really not sure how Cimo thought it was close between Duo and Pot of Greed in the first place; you should %100 take the Delinquent Duo in that situation. Leaving your opponent with no options is so much better than drawing deeper when you already have multiple normal summons in hand(and it's just kinda funny he got punished with the top cards being *both* 1-of Jars). Kinda the same outcome though with MBT setting his whole hand when Cimo didn't have a set monster that could possibly be Morphing Jar or any way to play his hand out next turn.