Look 👀 I LOVE YOUR VIDS and This Vid was Cool and I thank YoU for Great 👍 Job! BUT - I Also am a Complete OUT DOORS NUT - Camping, Hiking, Fishing, Trail runner, Mountain man type - I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND AS TOO “”WHY?” you mess around with Regular CELLPHONE 📱 BOOSTERS???? Haha 😂 If you are REALLY INTO going out woods, Mountains where no cell reception? DUDE - It’s Way easier- JUST GET A SATELLITE 📡 CELLPHONE 📱 BRO 😎 👍 You can get PRE-PAID Service so it’s NOT EXPENSIVE!!! SATELLITE 📡 CELLPHONE CAN CALL FROM “”” ANYWHERE BRO!!!”””” I have been literally out in middle of a Desert 🌵 No Tower No Civilization for like 100 Miles away bro / Satellite 📡 Cellphone 📱 BAM 💥 FULL BARS EVER TIME!! Anyways just needed to ask WHY? Your awesome 😎
Thank you for noticing... I always thought it was a weird format to try and review a product the first second that you see it... Maybe beat it up a bit... RIght?
How am I supposed to figure out how to unbox it if he does not show me how? It is quite refreshing to skip the bs and get to the meat and potatoes of the item.
Yeah agreed, I hate unboxing videos. I prefer to get the point of the review. I do like to know what comes in the box, but I don't need to see a reviewer delicately open a box, smell it, pull out the warranty card etc
Phones tend to stay locked onto towers they're getting service from. So when driving long distances your phone will try to stay with that same antenna from 75+mi away.. the airplane mode basically resets the phones antenna lock (for lack of better terminology) and makes it reconnect to a new (closer) antenna
Fairly crazy that I'm researching the weboost and you happen to be testing on the exact road that I'm buying it for!!! Thank you for the customized review lol
I’m always frustrated with cell service around Banks. I recognized the Deercreek ramp immediately when you started tip #5. Good to know that this thing will pull in a signal so well. Thanks.
Looking at the number of bars isn't the best way to judge how the booster is working. Better to look at the signal strength in dBm and ASU. Regardless of both, voice and data actually working is the acid test. Also, the antenna should be mounted vertical for best performance (due to signal polarity). Last but not least, no matter how much signal you have to and from the tower, if you're outside the hard distance limit your connection will be refused. This is a VERY overlooked limitation with boosters.
I agree with you on all points. I actually tested video at most spots as well as went into the phone and checked signal strength. Video was the key metric for me as it is a needed medium for work. Also agree that it wont work everywhere... I always raft parts of the Lochsa that are 30 - 60 Miles from a cell tower... there is no hope for that spot. Thanks for the advice on the antenna mounting... I actually tested it both ways and never noticed a difference but I am sure your right in extreme scenarios.
@@PyrateRumRunner I usually just use my iphone as a hotspot... so unfortunately... no. I had one for a while but since I never used it I gave it away... I can't even remember what kind it was.
Hi, Nathan. Great review. I’m guessing that that red heat sink unit is a linear amplifier and if I’m not mistaken, FCC regulates it not to exceed 3 Watts. I’ll go watch another video and see if they list what comes with this system after opening the box. And thank you for not doing a box opening. Anyone can open the box. Hilarious. Also, I discovered that “resetting“ by going to airplane mode, and then switching the phone back on really works. My theory is that the phone grabs a cell tower and holds onto it even when it should switch to the next one, but it doesn’t always do it. By switching off the phone to airplane mode and then turning it back on, it finds the closest cell tower. I’m a licensed ham and this is my best guess. I’ve taught several people this trick and they really like it.
Hey Nathan, I stumbled on to your channel and watched most of the videos. Thumbs up for the content. On the note about placement of the internal antenna, you pointing out how close it has to be made me wonder what it says in the official installation documentation about this. The only thing that I found, was that the it is recommended to increase the distance between the internal and external antennae to reduce the feedback that would be generated by the boost function. I happened to notice that you mounted your external antenna right above your driver door. In one of the clips, you make a point to open the door and move your cell device right out. I have a feeling that the fact that you opened the door and reduced the amount of blocking interference between the two antenna is what actually killed your apparent coverage. Now I know this video is old and you may not be replying or reading the comments, if you do, it would be great if you could test the above idea by relocating your external antenna to the rear of your truck and seeing if it improves your experience with the WeBoost. Regards,
Awesome, I bought the larger antenna as well. Works great and I mounted mine no higher than topper height. I used a bed-mounted antenna bracket from Caliraised. I will tell you, antenna placement inside the vehicle is the most important thing to get this to work right. I mounted mine with 3m tape on the back of the console.
@@xdedox532 I can't post a picture to the comment section but I ran the internal antenna to the back of the console at the very bottom and used 3M heavy duty velcro to mount it horizontal. I have done that in teo vehicles and it seems to be a good location without peoples feet getting all over it. It is also a central location for anyone sitting in the vehicle using their phone. Hope this helps. Also, thanks for commenting and if you haven't subscribed, please do I will be posting a video soon of the Tundra Weboost install.
Nice overview. One comment on safety. I don’t think a cell phone booster should be viewed as a safety device just because of its limitations. When I go to remote places, I bring a Garmin InReach, which is a two way satellite communication device. It works virtually everywhere on the planet, as long as you can see the sky. I’m installing my WeBoost device on my 4runner today. My biggest concern is how to get the antenna cable from the outside to the inside of the truck without any possible leaks or ugly pass through. How did you do it on your truck?
Pay the $100-200 and have an up fitting shop install an NMO mount. Yes, they will drill a hole in the roof but it’s better than leaks around a door jamb.
Putting your phone in airplane mode turns all the internal radio's off. When you turn them on again the effect is that the radio's have been reset/refreshed. I got that trick from tech support with Google Fi some time ago.
This is the best review I've seen on this product so far. Thanks for making this. I really don't like how weak the internal antenna is. That's super weird. You'd think they'd make it strong enough to cover at least the cab of a truck.
With the internal antenna I believe WeBoost is required to make it weak because of the booster. I know that is weird sounding but I believe it is an FCC thing for Safety... you don't want a signal that strong broadcasting widely.
Man, could you do an install review? I need clarification regarding the additional antenna...does the additional one just boost the boosted signal (from the WeBoost)?
@@mikegoolsby2731 Most antennas have a gain number associated with them in this case the OTR antenna provides 2.5 - 3.5 dBi of gain which is substantially more than the magnetic antenna provides. The booster itself is boosting a received signal and then boosting a transmit signal... You can bottleneck that ability by having it connected to a weaker antenna.
Completely agree. I didn’t realize how closes it had to be and was frustrated with my purchase. Then I read the manual and it said 6 inches. Made a big difference and changed the amount of service I can get.
Yes, IIRC it was Nokia that came out (1980s?) with the revolutionary battery saving concept that instead or running at max power all the time, a cell phone would throttle back the power when it could not reach a tower. Every company may have different timing & power schemes to do this "best".
Good video. You are correct on all points. Often the proximity is misunderstood. Users need to realize in a vehicle there is not a lot of space to separate the indoor and outdoor antenna. As you move your phone away form the indoor antenna the phone is adjusting power levels higher automatically. As you move it around the vehicle it can actually oscillate with the outdoor antenna causing the booster to temp dial back its output power or stop boosting all together. Many people do not know enough about how phones and the principals of radio transmissions operate - Thus boosters are given negative feedback. If used and installed correctly, they are a real lifesaver. Also, don't expect the world from them. Often, data speeds from a booster will not be high because the phone will likely not be able to "Hear / use the diversity signal" from the LTE transmission - making you will have basic LTE capabilities likely not "LTE+ capabilities" Also there is no benefit using in urban environments in a vehicle where signal doesn't need to be boosted. I have mine on a remote controlled switch in the car and only turn it on when out of the city, where I know the signal is weak.
You are almost correct..... First, the phone cannot be used outside the vehicle. There has to be that metal roof separating the external and internal antenna or osolation occurs. (The phone trying to recieve signal directly from the tower and the boosters re-broadcasted signal at the same time). Secondly, it clearly states in the directions 18 to 36 inches from the internal antenna as ideal distance. The bars you get when you're within an inch of the antenna is not usable signal, simply a feedback loop misinterpreted by the phone. And finally, you are not getting the full advantage of the high gain, 360 degree antenna by having it mounted on an angle like you have it. Should the cell tower you're closest to be behind you the signal would literally bypass the antenna. Overall decent review, but'cha gotta do a bit more research.
Thanks for the great review. I thought I’d chime in and help answer why it gets signal after placing it in airplane mode. When you’re locked onto a cell site, that cell site has a neighbor list. Your phone will only handover to a known neighbor. When you put it in airplane mode, the neighbor list is ignored and it scans for towers. Tip: If you could mount the antenna completely vertical, you’ll increase signal level a few dB. That will help.
Excellent video with great information. Thanks so much. @roambearded and I have been talking about getting something like this. Thanks for doing the leg work. 👍
Do you HAVE to have a cell signal in order for it to work? If you have NO Bars, there must be weak signals around? Is there a magnetic set up for taller antenna? Everyone recommends bigger antennas for remote area..I just don’t have racks and don’t want to drill to hook up.
I am beyond pleased at the signal strength improvement after installing this bit of kit on our B Van, but does anyone know if adding a ground plane disk of 6-10" in diameter to the base of the whip spring or immediately below the threaded portion of the antenna can improve the signal strength?
Great review. Might I add a couple of notes? WeBoost provided their 1.0 version for my rig years ago, so you know my bias. I'm currently running their Drive X OTR (before the Overland product was released) that I bought on my own almost two years ago. One installation quirk that is constantly overlooked is the distance between the mast antenna and the interior antenna. If these two points are too close together they create a feedback loop that will obstruct signal quality. Mounting the mast toward the rear of the cab, or as with my SUV above the d-pillar, eliminates the loop and provides the full signal for which this was engineered. Note 2; the user's cell plan will also determine the system's efficacy, depending on which priority their plan has in tower access. PS, the mast spring that came with my kit is not stainless and after a year is rusting. Thanks for your good work.
Thanks for a great, thorough, direct review. I do find it strange that the phone literally has to be within mere inches of the internal antenna, because Wilson themselves recommend affixing the internal antenna either on the side of the front seat or under the dashboard, where obviously it's going to be 2-3 feet from your phone anyway. That might explain the negative reviews - people followed their lead, but it still wasn't enough.
they also have boosters that don't need to be right on the mount but they are more expensive. Pretty expandable kits with their additional accessories.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. I have a question on the antennas...are the connections between the small and larger interchangeable? I would like to be able to use the device between two vehicles, leaving the larger on one, and the included on on another. Just drove that stretch last week after running the salmon main...I’m not nearly good enough to run the stretches I saw! Thanks again...
Good info man. I figured out the internal antennae through trial and error. The instructions say minimum 18" max 36". Works really well when it's close, as you say
I always tell people the most dangerous part of Whitewater Rafting is the drive to the river... as long as you pay attention and know what you are doing. That road is beautiful though.
I can but it is going to sound a bit confusing because "power" for a booster can mean a lot of different things. What you need to know is the Drive Reach provides 29.5dB Gain in Uplink output power and covers Band 25. This is the strongest signal possible due to FCC regulations for this type of device. The Drive 4G-X only has 24.8dB Uplink power and does not cover Band 25. I know those numbers don't mathematically add up to "twice as powerful" but they also don't scale the way simple math would at all... These two factors are what leads to it being basically twice as powerful. The hard part about measuring all of this is of course whether there actually is any signal to boost. A lot of people think these antennas are worthless but they are 200 miles from a Cell tower... so it is irrelevant. The Reality is... the Drive Reach is really powerful... much more than the 4G-x but it still cant work miracles... Hope that helps.
Here's the actual specs on both devices powerfulsignal.com/support/product-comparisons/what-are-the-differences-between-the-weboost-drive-x-and-weboost-drive-reach/
Almost canceled my order because of some bad reviews on Amazon. Changed my mind and will give it a try as I am a trucker and have to have good service. Thx for the review
That is actually the Payette River up In Idaho. I do love the Kern river though... got to get down there and run it one of these days. All my Kayaking buddies run that.
Weeboost has a serious issue with users who don't know how to use it and then leave negative comments on any post or review about the booster. It cannot be good for business. Mine has been awesome. Especially once I am stationary and can put my OTR antenna up 14' in the air. I can be out pretty far from civilization and still have enough service to at least get a text out. Or in situations where service is meh, and I cannot get decent download/upload speeds, it will get me to usable speeds.
I bought the drive reach for my van conversion. I feel like the shorter antenna will be fine because i'm in the city 95% of the time. But I can see why you would need a longer antenna if you're a true outdoorsman. Also l like the shorter antenna for the stealth factor.
Not so far. I do Air down when I run anything hard. The Tundra was able to do all of Hells Revenge without a locker... that said, I plan to put one in someday... We go on too many solo trips to not have the Eeasy button available if needed.
Good info! I thought I recognized that drive, and then you confirmed it. I drive Hwy 55 between Cascade and Boise frequently. No cell service!! Even driving around Lake Cascade there are several places where the signal drops out. This looks like a good solution. Thanks for posting this. --- Gun Talk Radio
It doesn't get you service everywhere out there... but it sure makes me feel more safe driving that road at least 4 times a week in the summer. THe Product does what it says it does... I was impressed where it still managed to get signal... especially useful at the rafting Put-ins.
anyone help me please ok, I'm working as uber eats delivery driver and I'd like to increase the signal of my phone but I'd like to keep that juice only for myself which is obvious and not share it with anyone else around, so is there any way i could do that and what I'd need? thanks
For phone calls it might work but that's about it... people expect more out of their phone... hence the negative reviews... if I can't use the internet my "phone" is a brick
Yeah I can see that in some/many places... whats missed in all of that is the safety/emergency use cases. Such a great device to expand communication in case of emergencies. I have even had my phone not work for internet or voice... but I could still get txt through... that can be huge.
Great video! Was just in the process of buying this. Your link looks to have the smaller antenna or at least the pic on the box shows the smaller antenna. What am I missing?
Weboost either discontinued the Drive Reach package that came with the big antenna or it was a victim of COVID backorder issues... haven't been able to find it in stock when this video was posted. So I had to buy the Drive Reach and then the better antenna separately. I have included links for both in the video description. They do have the older 4g-X packaged with the bigger antenna... but that is a much weaker booster so don't get that. Hopefully they bring it back but in the mean time you can buy them separately. Hope that helps.
I agree, I like to have overlapping communication channels. I usually have 40 Watt GMRS, Cell phone with Booster and then I also always have an InReach with us for emergencies. We have a set of people we can text that will help play coordinator if something goes down.
I’m confused - isn’t the smaller antenna an “internal” antenna. The larger for gathering and sending data to tower the smaller for communication with your phone?
There is a small internal antenna... you will see it on my dash in the video. Then there is a small external Magnetic antenna that comes with the Drive reach... I upgraded that one to the OTR antenna as it provides much better boost. In the description I have links for both items... but here they are for reference - WeBoost Drive Reach Cell Signal Booster - amzn.to/3cz1R9M Wilson Electronics OTR enhanced Cell Booster Antenna - amzn.to/3j6KFer
my instructions were saying for the internal antenna to be like a foot to 3 feet from device. you seemed to get it working best right up near it. i also have it in my van and its like 4 feet away from the antenna to the bed in the back. think it will still boost well? my boost itself is centered in the middle of the back between the two antennas
@@OutdoorAuto it was. I am surprised to know that the phone has to be kept within 2-3 inches. That sort of defeats the purpose, i was expecting the signal to be good at least within the car so every mobile can benefit.
@@shomikpathak You can always go with a hot spot that is close to the antenna and then have other devices connect to that..... or for calls use BT headphones...
I'm a truck driver (as if my handle doesn't give it away) I tried the Amazboost model.. It's junk.. the 2.5" tall mini antenna is a joke. So as I drive up and down the highways.. I see many of these on RV's, car and pickups daily. That's gotta say something good about these. I'll get a 30 try it for free warranty.. so I'll try it using your link. PS. I've got a nice jeep built for offroading.. I know what overlanding is.. but wanna get a offroad tent trailer in the next couple of years.
I agree that most people do not take the time to place into airplane mode and then turn off. This resyncs the signal to the cell tower. I do it all the time, and and it usually gives enough signal to make a call or send a text at the least.
Here are some pics of my install: forum.ih8mud.com/threads/weboost-wilson-pro-cell-boosters-code-mudweboost-at-alltechsource-com.1226051/page-5#post-13417920
Driving through the oil fields of West Texas and seeing them on the worker pickups sold me. Those guys arent going to muck around with junk and certainly dont install them for "coolness". Tons of Yeti, Canyon and Orca style coolers in the beds too...
I drive a Tundra with camper shell and currently have Verizon service. Cell service stops 7 miles into the drive heading down into Tahoe National Forest. At&t service is available for that area (spotty). I have NO BARS but will get random texts & messages. What would be the best product and do I need to upgrade antenna?? I really like the magnet antennas for simplicity but they all say the big long "beer cans" work the best? thoughts?
If your phone needs to within 2 inches from the antenna you might as well buy the "Drive sleek" and save 300 bucks (hopefully antenna options). At least you can use your phone as long as it's still in the cradle and a very long cable...maybe???
I also have the 4Gx, SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY and get the we boost reach. Trust me. Also get a good outdoor antenna. I found the short stubby ones included in some kits are not great. Don't coil up the antenna leads.
Great video!! How far was your placement of the internal antenna from the outside antenna? Also, are you able to get a signal outside your truck from Weboost, or do you have to be close to the internal antenna for all the boosted benefits?
The airplane mode on/off definitely works sometimes. As a backpacker - I use this trick all the time when I get to a high viewpoint that's line of sight to a highway or town and I can often get a bar or two of service when it was showing no service before.
I think they discontinued that antenna. Can't find it anywhere. How terrible is that tiny antenna that comes with it? You said it's not as good but I wonder if it's worth having without the big barrel antenna. Thanks for the great review!
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RF engineer here. Antennas have a radiation pattern. This particular one is an omnidirectional (think a donut one a table with the antenna being in the hole of the donut). When you mount the antenna at a 45 degree angle as you have done you are pointing half of your antennas rx/tx capability pointing to the sky and the other into the dirt. Have you ever seen a telecom/ cellphone tower with antennas mounted at a 45deg angle? no. Straight up and down is what you are looking for.
I honestly was considering one of these boosters until I got to the part about the internal antenna. That is honestly pathetic, how close the phone has to be to the internal antenna. It might as well have to be a wired connection. Seriously, the FCC regulations for consumer equipment is appallingly strict. Let the device create a hotspot within the vehicle. If I have to have my device within 1 inch, I might as well not even bother. Seriously disappointed in these products now.
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Look 👀 I LOVE YOUR VIDS and This Vid was Cool and I thank YoU for Great 👍 Job!
BUT - I Also am a Complete OUT DOORS NUT -
Camping, Hiking, Fishing, Trail runner, Mountain man type -
I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND AS TOO “”WHY?”
you mess around with Regular CELLPHONE 📱 BOOSTERS????
Haha 😂
If you are REALLY INTO going out woods, Mountains where no cell reception?
DUDE - It’s Way easier- JUST GET A SATELLITE 📡 CELLPHONE 📱 BRO 😎 👍
You can get PRE-PAID Service so it’s NOT EXPENSIVE!!!
SATELLITE 📡 CELLPHONE CAN CALL FROM
“”” ANYWHERE BRO!!!””””
I have been literally out in middle of a Desert 🌵 No Tower No Civilization for like 100 Miles away bro /
Satellite 📡 Cellphone 📱 BAM 💥 FULL BARS EVER TIME!!
Anyways just needed to ask WHY?
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Finally someone that doesn’t spend ten minutes slooowly cutting a box open and pulling each piece out! Nice video.
Thank you for noticing... I always thought it was a weird format to try and review a product the first second that you see it... Maybe beat it up a bit... RIght?
How am I supposed to figure out how to unbox it if he does not show me how?
It is quite refreshing to skip the bs and get to the meat and potatoes of the item.
No kidding!!! I don’t understand the Uni-boxing thing? What a colossal waste of time!
I thumbs up when he said anyone can unbox. 🤣
Definitely a legit chanel.
If you haven't used it... how do you know if it is good?
Yeah agreed, I hate unboxing videos. I prefer to get the point of the review. I do like to know what comes in the box, but I don't need to see a reviewer delicately open a box, smell it, pull out the warranty card etc
Not everyody has thumbs or fingers
Phones tend to stay locked onto towers they're getting service from. So when driving long distances your phone will try to stay with that same antenna from 75+mi away.. the airplane mode basically resets the phones antenna lock (for lack of better terminology) and makes it reconnect to a new (closer) antenna
Wait, how do I open the box? 😂👊
😂... I never understood reviews where they just open a box and never test the equipment.
Great review! Honest, clear, explains the good and bad. I love it.
Thanks Gun Guy... we are trying to put out actual helpful videos. Thanks for the feedback.
Gun Guy is a cool channel too
Fairly crazy that I'm researching the weboost and you happen to be testing on the exact road that I'm buying it for!!! Thank you for the customized review lol
Ha... well it works for calls at Deer Creek, Banks and Beehive already has service.
I’m always frustrated with cell service around Banks. I recognized the Deercreek ramp immediately when you started tip #5. Good to know that this thing will pull in a signal so well. Thanks.
Looking at the number of bars isn't the best way to judge how the booster is working. Better to look at the signal strength in dBm and ASU. Regardless of both, voice and data actually working is the acid test. Also, the antenna should be mounted vertical for best performance (due to signal polarity). Last but not least, no matter how much signal you have to and from the tower, if you're outside the hard distance limit your connection will be refused. This is a VERY overlooked limitation with boosters.
I agree with you on all points. I actually tested video at most spots as well as went into the phone and checked signal strength. Video was the key metric for me as it is a needed medium for work. Also agree that it wont work everywhere... I always raft parts of the Lochsa that are 30 - 60 Miles from a cell tower... there is no hope for that spot. Thanks for the advice on the antenna mounting... I actually tested it both ways and never noticed a difference but I am sure your right in extreme scenarios.
Also... how much do you want to bet Antenna Height Mattes more than if it is perfectly straight?
@@OutdoorAuto The radiation pattern of the antenna is based upon it being vertical. But yes, height will help.
I mounted a mobile WiFi hotspot directly on top of the internal antenna and now have a 50'-60' radius range around the vehicle using WiFi.
Good call on location... it really does make a huge difference.
any recommendation on a hotspot?
@@PyrateRumRunner I usually just use my iphone as a hotspot... so unfortunately... no. I had one for a while but since I never used it I gave it away... I can't even remember what kind it was.
Over_Land Rover what mobile hotspot have you used successfully?
Best review I've seen on this. Many just seem to glaze over what you covered. Thank You, airplane tip was Huge!
Nathan, keep up the work on these videos! I am considering getting into Overlanding and your insight and tips are great and very informative...
Oh awesome... Enjoy the adventures... that is the most important part. Good luck.
Hi, Nathan. Great review. I’m guessing that that red heat sink unit is a linear amplifier and if I’m not mistaken, FCC regulates it not to exceed 3 Watts. I’ll go watch another video and see if they list what comes with this system after opening the box. And thank you for not doing a box opening. Anyone can open the box. Hilarious. Also, I discovered that “resetting“ by going to airplane mode, and then switching the phone back on really works. My theory is that the phone grabs a cell tower and holds onto it even when it should switch to the next one, but it doesn’t always do it. By switching off the phone to airplane mode and then turning it back on, it finds the closest cell tower. I’m a licensed ham and this is my best guess. I’ve taught several people this trick and they really like it.
Awesome vid, thank you! I've been waiting for the right time to get the WeBoost. And I just ordered a Prinsu rack!
You wont regret the Prinsu Rack... they are awesome... I really like how little wind noise they make.
@@OutdoorAuto great, thanks, I opted for the extra $15 for the wind noise reducer.
This was an extremely helpful review. Thank you!
Awesome, glad it was helpful. We have a whole run of new videos coming… starting this week.
Hey Nathan,
I stumbled on to your channel and watched most of the videos. Thumbs up for the content. On the note about placement of the internal antenna, you pointing out how close it has to be made me wonder what it says in the official installation documentation about this. The only thing that I found, was that the it is recommended to increase the distance between the internal and external antennae to reduce the feedback that would be generated by the boost function. I happened to notice that you mounted your external antenna right above your driver door. In one of the clips, you make a point to open the door and move your cell device right out. I have a feeling that the fact that you opened the door and reduced the amount of blocking interference between the two antenna is what actually killed your apparent coverage.
Now I know this video is old and you may not be replying or reading the comments, if you do, it would be great if you could test the above idea by relocating your external antenna to the rear of your truck and seeing if it improves your experience with the WeBoost.
Regards,
Awesome, I bought the larger antenna as well. Works great and I mounted mine no higher than topper height. I used a bed-mounted antenna bracket from Caliraised. I will tell you, antenna placement inside the vehicle is the most important thing to get this to work right. I mounted mine with 3m tape on the back of the console.
Can you post pic of where you mounted internal antenna
@@xdedox532 I can't post a picture to the comment section but I ran the internal antenna to the back of the console at the very bottom and used 3M heavy duty velcro to mount it horizontal. I have done that in teo vehicles and it seems to be a good location without peoples feet getting all over it. It is also a central location for anyone sitting in the vehicle using their phone. Hope this helps. Also, thanks for commenting and if you haven't subscribed, please do I will be posting a video soon of the Tundra Weboost install.
so glad your vid is very detailed! you've answered all my questions!!!
Awesome, I am glad it was helpful.
Good tips, especially about how close it needs to be to the internal antenna.
This is not a unboxing, anyone can open a box. That was the best comment I’ve ever heard. Literally don’t give a shit about what’s in the box lol
Nice overview. One comment on safety. I don’t think a cell phone booster should be viewed as a safety device just because of its limitations. When I go to remote places, I bring a Garmin InReach, which is a two way satellite communication device. It works virtually everywhere on the planet, as long as you can see the sky. I’m installing my WeBoost device on my 4runner today. My biggest concern is how to get the antenna cable from the outside to the inside of the truck without any possible leaks or ugly pass through. How did you do it on your truck?
Pay the $100-200 and have an up fitting shop install an NMO mount. Yes, they will drill a hole in the roof but it’s better than leaks around a door jamb.
Putting your phone in airplane mode turns all the internal radio's off. When you turn them on again the effect is that the radio's have been reset/refreshed. I got that trick from tech support with Google Fi some time ago.
Yup... Basically just a forced refresh on connections... works great.
Just learned about the airplane mode off & on!!! 😮😮😮😮😮
It works great! We have a whole run of new videos coming… starting this week.
This is the best review I've seen on this product so far. Thanks for making this.
I really don't like how weak the internal antenna is. That's super weird. You'd think they'd make it strong enough to cover at least the cab of a truck.
With the internal antenna I believe WeBoost is required to make it weak because of the booster. I know that is weird sounding but I believe it is an FCC thing for Safety... you don't want a signal that strong broadcasting widely.
@@OutdoorAuto I see. Yeah, that makes sense.
Awesome review! Thanks so much!
Awesome, hope it was helpful. We have a whole run of new videos coming… starting this week.
Tip 6 is the Most Important... BTW
Man, could you do an install review? I need clarification regarding the additional antenna...does the additional one just boost the boosted signal (from the WeBoost)?
@@mikegoolsby2731 Most antennas have a gain number associated with them in this case the OTR antenna provides 2.5 - 3.5 dBi of gain which is substantially more than the magnetic antenna provides. The booster itself is boosting a received signal and then boosting a transmit signal... You can bottleneck that ability by having it connected to a weaker antenna.
Completely agree. I didn’t realize how closes it had to be and was frustrated with my purchase. Then I read the manual and it said 6 inches. Made a big difference and changed the amount of service I can get.
AH HA! I had a feeling you were on ID-55! I get decent service with Verizon from Boise to McCall, Lowman, or Stanley.
Great video...thanks for the post.
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how could anyone trust a review from someone with their ears pinned under their cap?
Yes, IIRC it was Nokia that came out (1980s?) with the revolutionary battery saving concept that instead or running at max power all the time, a cell phone would throttle back the power when it could not reach a tower. Every company may have different timing & power schemes to do this "best".
Good video. You are correct on all points. Often the proximity is misunderstood. Users need to realize in a vehicle there is not a lot of space to separate the indoor and outdoor antenna. As you move your phone away form the indoor antenna the phone is adjusting power levels higher automatically. As you move it around the vehicle it can actually oscillate with the outdoor antenna causing the booster to temp dial back its output power or stop boosting all together. Many people do not know enough about how phones and the principals of radio transmissions operate - Thus boosters are given negative feedback. If used and installed correctly, they are a real lifesaver. Also, don't expect the world from them. Often, data speeds from a booster will not be high because the phone will likely not be able to "Hear / use the diversity signal" from the LTE transmission - making you will have basic LTE capabilities likely not "LTE+ capabilities"
Also there is no benefit using in urban environments in a vehicle where signal doesn't need to be boosted. I have mine on a remote controlled switch in the car and only turn it on when out of the city, where I know the signal is weak.
That airplane mode is a pro tip I give everyone even in the city for bad services etc just reset the radios
Does this boost 5GE? My AT&T 5G coverage even in town absolutely sucks!
Yes they are 5G compatible.
Thank you for doing this video
My pleasure!
You are almost correct.....
First, the phone cannot be used outside the vehicle. There has to be that metal roof separating the external and internal antenna or osolation occurs. (The phone trying to recieve signal directly from the tower and the boosters re-broadcasted signal at the same time).
Secondly, it clearly states in the directions 18 to 36 inches from the internal antenna as ideal distance. The bars you get when you're within an inch of the antenna is not usable signal, simply a feedback loop misinterpreted by the phone.
And finally, you are not getting the full advantage of the high gain, 360 degree antenna by having it mounted on an angle like you have it. Should the cell tower you're closest to be behind you the signal would literally bypass the antenna.
Overall decent review, but'cha gotta do a bit more research.
Good review of an interesting product.
Thank You. Hope it was helpful.
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I think the safety aspect makes something like this mandatory for people who overland.
Addressing work was convenient, addressing safety... definitely more mandatory.... especially with all the rafting we do on those rivers.
Great info. thanks!
No problem. Hopefully it was helpful.
Might be a silly question but does your car have to be on for the signal booster to do it’s thing?
yes it needs 12v power to the main unit
This video was created on 03 Aug 2020. I wonder how the booster is performing today or if you had to upgrade?
I've been hearing that you need to separate the internal and external antenna by so many feet.
Thanks for the great review. I thought I’d chime in and help answer why it gets signal after placing it in airplane mode. When you’re locked onto a cell site, that cell site has a neighbor list. Your phone will only handover to a known neighbor. When you put it in airplane mode, the neighbor list is ignored and it scans for towers.
Tip: If you could mount the antenna completely vertical, you’ll increase signal level a few dB. That will help.
Excellent video with great information. Thanks so much. @roambearded and I have been talking about getting something like this. Thanks for doing the leg work. 👍
Thanks Vanessa... Glad it was helpful.
Do you HAVE to have a cell signal in order for it to work? If you have NO Bars, there must be weak signals around? Is there a magnetic set up for taller antenna? Everyone recommends bigger antennas for remote area..I just don’t have racks and don’t want to drill to hook up.
I am beyond pleased at the signal strength improvement after installing
this bit of kit on our B Van, but does anyone know if adding a ground
plane disk of 6-10" in diameter to the base of the whip spring or
immediately below the threaded portion of the antenna can improve the
signal strength?
ooh... good question... I dont know but if you ask @weboost directly on instagram they are really good at responding to things like this.
For safety reasons a satellite device is the better option. These are good choices after you get a the satellite option squared away.
I always have an inReach for this exact reason.
Great review. Might I add a couple of notes? WeBoost provided their 1.0 version for my rig years ago, so you know my bias. I'm currently running their Drive X OTR (before the Overland product was released) that I bought on my own almost two years ago. One installation quirk that is constantly overlooked is the distance between the mast antenna and the interior antenna. If these two points are too close together they create a feedback loop that will obstruct signal quality. Mounting the mast toward the rear of the cab, or as with my SUV above the d-pillar, eliminates the loop and provides the full signal for which this was engineered. Note 2; the user's cell plan will also determine the system's efficacy, depending on which priority their plan has in tower access. PS, the mast spring that came with my kit is not stainless and after a year is rusting. Thanks for your good work.
Great points - Some day I will have to put an update out.
Thanks for a great, thorough, direct review. I do find it strange that the phone literally has to be within mere inches of the internal antenna, because Wilson themselves recommend affixing the internal antenna either on the side of the front seat or under the dashboard, where obviously it's going to be 2-3 feet from your phone anyway. That might explain the negative reviews - people followed their lead, but it still wasn't enough.
they also have boosters that don't need to be right on the mount but they are more expensive. Pretty expandable kits with their additional accessories.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. I have a question on the antennas...are the connections between the small and larger interchangeable? I would like to be able to use the device between two vehicles, leaving the larger on one, and the included on on another. Just drove that stretch last week after running the salmon main...I’m not nearly good enough to run the stretches I saw! Thanks again...
Yes the connections are interchangeable.
how well does it work for things like using VPN to access back off tools? Video conferencing? VOIP?
Good info man. I figured out the internal antennae through trial and error. The instructions say minimum 18" max 36". Works really well when it's close, as you say
Also, if you're relying on a booster for safety, you're doing it wrong. If that's a critical factor get a PLB, InReach, Spot or satphone.
Already have an InReach... but if there is a disaster on the river I will take a cell connection to the local police over anything it provides.
you should get better performance from the external antenna if you stand it up vertically
Oh I will Just waiting on the bed rack I’m going to permanently mount it to... good point though... I should have called that out on the video.
Been on that road numerous times.
I always tell people the most dangerous part of Whitewater Rafting is the drive to the river... as long as you pay attention and know what you are doing. That road is beautiful though.
The drive 4g-x lists the same power output. You claim this one has twice the power. they are also the same cost. Can you explain?
I can but it is going to sound a bit confusing because "power" for a booster can mean a lot of different things. What you need to know is the Drive Reach provides 29.5dB Gain in Uplink output power and covers Band 25. This is the strongest signal possible due to FCC regulations for this type of device. The Drive 4G-X only has 24.8dB Uplink power and does not cover Band 25. I know those numbers don't mathematically add up to "twice as powerful" but they also don't scale the way simple math would at all... These two factors are what leads to it being basically twice as powerful. The hard part about measuring all of this is of course whether there actually is any signal to boost. A lot of people think these antennas are worthless but they are 200 miles from a Cell tower... so it is irrelevant. The Reality is... the Drive Reach is really powerful... much more than the 4G-x but it still cant work miracles... Hope that helps.
Here's the actual specs on both devices powerfulsignal.com/support/product-comparisons/what-are-the-differences-between-the-weboost-drive-x-and-weboost-drive-reach/
Wow, a shockingly helpful review haha. A review and tips! Thank you!! Wish it wasn't so expensive.....
The hardware rusts very easily, especially the spring; we paid for stainless steel and instead got cheap Chinese junk.
Almost canceled my order because of some bad reviews on Amazon. Changed my mind and will give it a try as I am a trucker and have to have good service. Thx for the review
Great video thx! Was that Kern River at the beginning??
That is actually the Payette River up In Idaho. I do love the Kern river though... got to get down there and run it one of these days. All my Kayaking buddies run that.
I subbed, I like to the point no BS reviews! Good job!
Does it provide high speed internet for like if you have to edit and upload a video to TH-cam up in the mountains while camping for an example
Weeboost has a serious issue with users who don't know how to use it and then leave negative comments on any post or review about the booster. It cannot be good for business.
Mine has been awesome. Especially once I am stationary and can put my OTR antenna up 14' in the air. I can be out pretty far from civilization and still have enough service to at least get a text out. Or in situations where service is meh, and I cannot get decent download/upload speeds, it will get me to usable speeds.
I bought the drive reach for my van conversion. I feel like the shorter antenna will be fine because i'm in the city 95% of the time. But I can see why you would need a longer antenna if you're a true outdoorsman. Also l like the shorter antenna for the stealth factor.
Nice review. Lots of great ideas for building out my 18 Tundra off-road.
Good luck with your build Breyton. I have been pretty happy with how the Tundra's have performed.
@@OutdoorAuto Any issues with getting to spots since the tundra does not come with a rear locker?
Not so far. I do Air down when I run anything hard. The Tundra was able to do all of Hells Revenge without a locker... that said, I plan to put one in someday... We go on too many solo trips to not have the Eeasy button available if needed.
Good info! I thought I recognized that drive, and then you confirmed it. I drive Hwy 55 between Cascade and Boise frequently. No cell service!! Even driving around Lake Cascade there are several places where the signal drops out. This looks like a good solution. Thanks for posting this. --- Gun Talk Radio
It doesn't get you service everywhere out there... but it sure makes me feel more safe driving that road at least 4 times a week in the summer. THe Product does what it says it does... I was impressed where it still managed to get signal... especially useful at the rafting Put-ins.
anyone help me please
ok, I'm working as uber eats delivery driver and I'd like to increase the signal of my phone but I'd like to keep that juice only for myself which is obvious and not share it with anyone else around, so is there any way i could do that and what I'd need?
thanks
For phone calls it might work but that's about it... people expect more out of their phone... hence the negative reviews... if I can't use the internet my "phone" is a brick
Yeah I can see that in some/many places... whats missed in all of that is the safety/emergency use cases. Such a great device to expand communication in case of emergencies. I have even had my phone not work for internet or voice... but I could still get txt through... that can be huge.
Great video! Was just in the process of buying this. Your link looks to have the smaller antenna or at least the pic on the box shows the smaller antenna. What am I missing?
Weboost either discontinued the Drive Reach package that came with the big antenna or it was a victim of COVID backorder issues... haven't been able to find it in stock when this video was posted. So I had to buy the Drive Reach and then the better antenna separately. I have included links for both in the video description. They do have the older 4g-X packaged with the bigger antenna... but that is a much weaker booster so don't get that. Hopefully they bring it back but in the mean time you can buy them separately. Hope that helps.
For safety, a satellite phone is hands down better than any booster.
I agree, I like to have overlapping communication channels. I usually have 40 Watt GMRS, Cell phone with Booster and then I also always have an InReach with us for emergencies. We have a set of people we can text that will help play coordinator if something goes down.
I’m confused - isn’t the smaller antenna an “internal” antenna. The larger for gathering and sending data to tower the smaller for communication with your phone?
There is a small internal antenna... you will see it on my dash in the video. Then there is a small external Magnetic antenna that comes with the Drive reach... I upgraded that one to the OTR antenna as it provides much better boost. In the description I have links for both items... but here they are for reference - WeBoost Drive Reach Cell Signal Booster - amzn.to/3cz1R9M
Wilson Electronics OTR enhanced Cell Booster Antenna - amzn.to/3j6KFer
my instructions were saying for the internal antenna to be like a foot to 3 feet from device. you seemed to get it working best right up near it. i also have it in my van and its like 4 feet away from the antenna to the bed in the back. think it will still boost well? my boost itself is centered in the middle of the back between the two antennas
Along with the Airplane mode tip. I find if I turn my WiFi off on my iPhone I sometimes get better signal some places.
great video
Thanks, hopefully it was helpful.
@@OutdoorAuto it was. I am surprised to know that the phone has to be kept within 2-3 inches. That sort of defeats the purpose, i was expecting the signal to be good at least within the car so every mobile can benefit.
@@shomikpathak You can always go with a hot spot that is close to the antenna and then have other devices connect to that..... or for calls use BT headphones...
Thank you for the great review. Short and to the point. Looking forward to more productive remote work and fun play time that this device provides!
Glad it was helpful!
What do you have mounted to your Prinsu rack? It looks like a expandable storage space.
That is actually a Rooftop Tent... I did a video on several types I have tested in this video... th-cam.com/video/fCXghZJ1k70/w-d-xo.html
I'm a truck driver (as if my handle doesn't give it away) I tried the Amazboost model.. It's junk.. the 2.5" tall mini antenna is a joke. So as I drive up and down the highways.. I see many of these on RV's, car and pickups daily. That's gotta say something good about these. I'll get a 30 try it for free warranty.. so I'll try it using your link. PS. I've got a nice jeep built for offroading.. I know what overlanding is.. but wanna get a offroad tent trailer in the next couple of years.
I agree that most people do not take the time to place into airplane mode and then turn off. This resyncs the signal to the cell tower. I do it all the time, and and it usually gives enough signal to make a call or send a text at the least.
Here are some pics of my install: forum.ih8mud.com/threads/weboost-wilson-pro-cell-boosters-code-mudweboost-at-alltechsource-com.1226051/page-5#post-13417920
Find the typo for bonus points :)
the Eeasy button :)
In Central Texas many ambulances have these things, so that fact alone made me realize this would be a worthwhile purchase
I love mine still!
Driving through the oil fields of West Texas and seeing them on the worker pickups sold me. Those guys arent going to muck around with junk and certainly dont install them for "coolness". Tons of Yeti, Canyon and Orca style coolers in the beds too...
@@jitterspec Yep I noticed that too. They always buy the best of the best
Nathan, great ride, great vibes in the video.. Love the pragmatic approach..
I drive a Tundra with camper shell and currently have Verizon service. Cell service stops 7 miles into the drive heading down into Tahoe National Forest. At&t service is available for that area (spotty). I have NO BARS but will get random texts & messages. What would be the best product and do I need to upgrade antenna?? I really like the magnet antennas for simplicity but they all say the big long "beer cans" work the best? thoughts?
If your phone needs to within 2 inches from the antenna you might as well buy the "Drive sleek" and save 300 bucks (hopefully antenna options). At least you can use your phone as long as it's still in the cradle and a very long cable...maybe???
It doesn’t have as much boost 😳
Great review ...Safety IMO being the top benefit. I ride my ADV bike through there quite frequently. I don't like hearing deer stories ....
Be careful out there. It has never been lost on me that the most dangerous part of being a whitewater rafter is actually driving to these locations.
I also have the 4Gx, SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY and get the we boost reach. Trust me. Also get a good outdoor antenna. I found the short stubby ones included in some kits are not great. Don't coil up the antenna leads.
I was the one that got you the 1200 likes
Thanks!
Great info, thank you. Probably the best weboost vid on youtube , great with real-world tips.
Wow, thanks!
It is NOT "me and my wife". It is "my wife and I". WTF, lemme guess... victim of a public school education.
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Great video!! How far was your placement of the internal antenna from the outside antenna? Also, are you able to get a signal outside your truck from Weboost, or do you have to be close to the internal antenna for all the boosted benefits?
Per the video, you need to be literally on top of the indoor antenna for it to work.
The airplane mode on/off definitely works sometimes. As a backpacker - I use this trick all the time when I get to a high viewpoint that's line of sight to a highway or town and I can often get a bar or two of service when it was showing no service before.
I think they discontinued that antenna. Can't find it anywhere. How terrible is that tiny antenna that comes with it? You said it's not as good but I wonder if it's worth having without the big barrel antenna. Thanks for the great review!
2:04 into the video I noticed the rock formation to your left that looks like Abraham Lincoln....now, back to the video. Thank you BTW.
Ha... so it does!
Just purchased the Drive Reach RV. Nice to see some examples in areas we will be using our rig.
IT really is a good product... it just gets a bad wrap from people that thing it is supposed to be Magic. Enjoy your travels!
What's a princy rack ??? Never heard of it. Did I spell it correctly? Please given us a link to wherever I can buy one...
it is Called Prinsu - link prinsu.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwoduRBhA4EiwACL5RPyft58-1wQD4jSZJjpdByrWXt7Dw6w2hMbl7qsl8_guQnZ2QmwhKzxoCYWsQAvD_BwE - New Video coming out Monday BTW.
is it better to get the (weboost RV or OTR) instead of (weboost car + antenna)
RF engineer here. Antennas have a radiation pattern. This particular one is an omnidirectional (think a donut one a table with the antenna being in the hole of the donut). When you mount the antenna at a 45 degree angle as you have done you are pointing half of your antennas rx/tx capability pointing to the sky and the other into the dirt. Have you ever seen a telecom/ cellphone tower with antennas mounted at a 45deg angle? no. Straight up and down is what you are looking for.
Thanks... Yeah I learned this right after the video... been running it straight up since.
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I honestly was considering one of these boosters until I got to the part about the internal antenna. That is honestly pathetic, how close the phone has to be to the internal antenna. It might as well have to be a wired connection. Seriously, the FCC regulations for consumer equipment is appallingly strict. Let the device create a hotspot within the vehicle. If I have to have my device within 1 inch, I might as well not even bother. Seriously disappointed in these products now.
You can get a better signal if you mount the antenna vertically rather than at an angle like you have it
Thanks for the tip... I actually mounted that one temporarily... moved it over to the new Truck and have it right now... th-cam.com/video/baXIKlRIeK8/w-d-xo.html