The Last Jedi is OBJECTIVELY a Cinematic Masterpiece
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- If there's a rule about these things needing to happen before noon, pretend it doesn't exist. I wanted to give yesterday's video a bit of space.
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I hope everyone enjoyed this completely normal and good video that I've posted on April the 1st as a way of celebrating 2,299 days since The Last Jedi's release
Might show the kids this instead of paying for Disney+
They’d become far too wise
Straight up mad lad behaviour, hopefully you do one next year on the Snyder cut or the lone cyberman trilogy
I do like the Snyder Cut, though occasionally struggled to fill the dead air in this commentary and I know everything about Star Wars. Imagine trying to find loads to say about a world I know very little about. Sounds fun!
Please comment: "I love....I love". I remember thinking this movie was fantastic when I saw it in the theaters. I am on an email group and most of the members were bashing it. There was one lone fan besides myself so I thought I was crazy. I haven't watched it since. After listening to this video and watching multiple other videos in the last few days about how great it is. I am reminded of why I really love it, and I have decided to watch it again soon. My trip down this path started when someone on Facebook posted that The Last Jedi isn't just the worst Star Wars movie but the worst movie ever made.
I felt the same way when I saw it. I went online expecting universal praise and instead it was universal hate. I thought I was living in an alternate universe or something because the movie I saw was beyond excellent. I think Star Wars fans are just an insufferable and cynical audience who are literally never happy. They simultaneously want characters to be unchanging yet at the same time constantly want "something different". What are Disney even meant to do lol? I really hope people like the Acolyte because if they don't, Disney will never try anything new ever again. We'll just get nostalgia driven content for decades, endlessly stuck in the New Republic era.
People who say this movie is the worst movie EVER make me feel insane! And still to this day I don't think anyone could really explain why this is a thing. The best explanation I can offer myself is that people don't like how subconscious the plot is and that when you interpret the film on a purely literal sense, it seems like a waste of time. Rey and Ben get close to turning but by the end, in a literal sense they are back to square one. Finn and rose fail their mission. Poe does a dumb thing that gets most of the resistance killed that some would argue was preventable. Luke spends most of the film in hiding and once he reveals himself, he dies. When you look at all these events through a literal lens, you completely miss the fact that the characters all have philosophical revelations. Beyond that, these revelations are all connected to each other, creating an over-arching meta commentary of star wars. When you delve deeper into these themes, you can trace it all the way back to Jospeh Campbell's ideas in comparative mythology. Campbell, whose ideas had a major influence on George Lucas and the original trilogy. This film is infatuated with pondering mythic ideas. Is this to the film's detriment? That's up to the individual I guess.
1:57:00 I wish we saw Hux taking a data tape from Snokes throne to make obvious Hux would betray him. Hux leaking Reylo to the galaxy would have been fun
Yea I'm one of the "watch last Jedi with Joe Brennan on Aprils fools day" and its great feeling
Welcome to the exclusive club
@@Joe_Brennan_ i am proud to also be apart of this club while also watching my favortie SW movie!
Was a wonderful time. Thank you for putting this out there. ❤
Thank you so much for watching!
I heard that Rey going back to bun hair and white outfit was to make it easier to use archive shots of her with Carrie Fisher.
I’ve heard this too, I don’t think it’s a good enough excuse really
For a second I thought you just uploaded the movie
The thought actually had crossed my mind, as a “that would be funny in a world without copyright” idea
Legit expected silence or a meme for 2 hours but now I had the time to sit and hear an April Fool’s Joke I legitimately think this was fun, cheers J-Boi. Thanks to you, I love hrm.
I’m generous to my fans
I love hmm...
I was delighted this wasn't just a 5 minute joke video with 2 hours of blank screen, I enjoyed hearing your thoughts on the whole film and getting to revisit it vicariously. I'm slightly more mixed on the film than you are, but there's so much I love in it, and there always seems to be more to appreciate and different perspectives I hadn't considered before.
36:50 i love this scene alot because it's just 2 best friends reconnecting after so long, it's beautiful.
This movie really has a few of those moments
1:08:00 as per the Finn stuff, people say he's side-lined for Kylo and I just don't agree since most of Kylo's screentime is in scenes about Rey or Luke, whereas most of Finn's scenes are about him as his growth. As you said in TROS he has more screentime but less actual story
The “replaced by Kylo” complaint I think comes exclusively down to the fact he’s no longer paired with Rey. Despite Finn being the star of his own subplot, they assume the characters in supporting roles of Rey’s story are more important and prominent
I love hmm!
Thanks for this, I saw it at just the right time to get me through a rough first day back at work, and it was a great reminder of why I love this movie so much.
Something that's never occurred to me before now, which is wild, is the juxtaposition of Luke standing over Kylo with his lightsaber, and then later Hux standing over Kylo about to pull out his blaster.
Luke is afraid for those he loves and sees a desperate way out before realising too late that it's not the way, but before he can say anything, Kylo pulls the building down.
Hux is also afraid of Kylo, but his fear is selfish and his desire to kill Kylo in the moment is opportunistic. It's unclear if Kylo sees what he was about to do, I guess not, but if he did then it's obviously he sees him as so little a threat that he doesn't need to do anything.
It's just a small thing, and maybe I'm reading too much into the similarity between the scenes, I just always find something new with this movie.
I’m so glad my silly ramblings provided valuable entertainment. Yeah there was a funny tweet a while ago about how Kylo has a weapon pulled on him by an ally while he’s unconscious twice in one movie and at what point you as Kylo start to see that as a you problem
2:04 I'm not saying shots fired or anything but I DEFINITELY get the reference.
I would never call anyone specific out
Spoofing certain outrage merchants aside? This is a really good look at TLJ, a movie that honestly I feel gets better as time goes on. I always felt like the ST's biggest problem was time and it rigidly adhering to certain ideas. The point of not planning the story from the beginning was to give it this sense of spontaeity and so writers and directors don't feel hamstrung. However they also did communicate with one another. Rian Johnson asked JJ to have R2 accompany Rey in TFA to Ahch-To since that would better serve TLJ. He watched the movie several times in order to properly form what his sequel would need and while people are free to disagree with what TLJ had to offer? It's clear to me quite a few of the complaints are based on people basically laying out what they wanted the ST to be over what we got and conflating us not getting that with it somehow being bad with the worst being when people try to blame this movie for how TROS turned out when really everything points to TROS needing more delays and for the crew to not stupidly be trying to somehow force Leia into a story that due to circumstances she can't really have a proper role in and maybe to an extent Disney being cowards which in turn has led to outrage merchants gaining this belief that they matter in the grand scheme of things.
TLJ is not a perfect film but honestly? It was a welcome one. TFA was a great helping of comfort food, a way to show us that under this new management the filmmakers were still more than capable of making an old-school Star Wars adventure and that we were not repeating the mistakes of the prequels. In hindsight it went a smidge too far in trying to not be like the prequels but considering where we were back in 2015? It was more than welcome. However, we made it clear that Star Wars couldn't just be comfort food. The next film needed to be new and daring, it needed to further the story and TLJ provided that and then some.
That’s a very good point about prequel rejection being a much more welcome attitude in 2015. I often feel we ignore the cultural context of the world and its attitude to those movies 9 years ago.
@@Joe_Brennan_ Oh it was crazy how prominent it was. Back then if you even had the tiniest suggestion that George should have involvement with the sequels or hell just that you want to see space politics, you'd be torn apart. It's kind of funny how Star Wars fans like to scrub away when they didn't like something. Like when Empire came out and people hated it, these days even if you point some people towards reviews from 1980, they'll act like you just tried to tell them Superman is a real person.
@@the-aspiring-creator4249 it is very funny how they are like that. however personally TLJ is my favorite. also @Joe_Brennan_ has been amazing with commentary.
2:08:30 the Finn Rose kiss is the only thing that doesn't work for me, in part because it doesn't look mutual on Finns end. would have preferred her putting her hand on his chest like the start of TFA
Glad it’s not just me who’s pretty positive on practically every other decision
thank you for letting us watch the last jedi with you :)
you being this much of a reylo makes the watching experience that much better
i love ,hmm
I do it all the time so it felt right to let people join in this time
2:24:00 even though it was meant to be romantic set up I still love that scene. Poe recognises Rey as Rey, she's not no one she's her. It sets up her as the hero of the resistance and she needs to contended with that role despite the fact she's no one. 8 ends with Rey having soo much baggage and the fact 9 ignored most of it for less interesting baggage makes me really sad still.
good commentary I love hmm, hope spamming you with all these comments didn't get annoying
I’ve enjoyed real-time reminders of the things that I said and hearing your thoughts. I don’t think I’d ever registered Poe’s recognition of Rey as a counterpoint to the idea that she has no place in the story, I’m always distracted by how charming it is in isolation. I’ll always enjoy it even more now.
@@Joe_Brennan_ there's a much better version of episode 9 that focuses on how Rey feels about being a nobody who's suddenly been thrust into the position of the resistances last hope.
When people talk about Rey nobody (this goes for both people who like and dislike it) I feel there's often a failure to properly engage with what her parentage means for her character. Despite what a lot of people say the whole "anyone can be a hero" isn't really the point imo, it's mostly just a nice marketing thing and lesson for kids. Rey nobody is good because of how if effects Rey's characters, Rey would presumably feel insecurity over the fact a nobody like her is the galaxy's last hope he needs to keep Luke's spark burning. Realistically most people in universe wouldn't actually care if Rey was a nobody (I doubt everyone knew Luke was Anakins son) but Rey cares and that's why it's important and good storytelling. You could even develop this idea further by having people in universe just assume she is Luke's daughter, and now she needs to grapple with people's expectations of her without any of the benefits one would get from being a his daughter
Anyway I probably waffled for too much there but I hope you get what I'm saying
38:00 the idea that 9 was always supposed to be the Leia movie is kind of funny when you consider she's arguably more important to Rise of Skywalker then she was in duel of the fates
I agree, it’s something that’s thrown around but it’s not really something that’s reflected in pre-death plans
well I guess I’m watching The Last Jedi tonight
There are far worse ways to spend one’s time
@@Joe_Brennan_doubtful I’d rather die
Thank you so much for this, Joe. I really enjoyed watching along with you (in a parasocial sort of way). I haven’t rewatched this in a long time. I remember having mixed feelings about the film when it first came out, but the things I loved about it, I grew to love more over time and the things I liked less I realised weren’t the deal breakers that I thought they were.
One thing I’ve always said is that this is the most ambitious Star Wars film since Empire. It take the story and the characters to new places, both literally and figuratively, and it has absolutely no interest in pandering to its audience. Whether you like it or not, it has ideas and themes and something to say.
It’s also visually utterly stunning, from Krait looking like it’s bleeding when shot at, to the burning tree, to Luke silhouetted against the First Order. And the cream of them all, the Holdo Manoeuvre - COME ON!
The fact that they followed this up (and concluded the trilogy, no less!) with The Rise Of Skywalker is so utterly disappointing in ways that I’ll probably always feel sore about.
Thanks again - it’s late now, but I had a great time revisiting.
I’m so glad you enjoyed it! I didn’t expect many people to actually see it through as a commentary. If I ever do another one I’ll get better at filling the dead air.
I’m not even sure if you need to fill it. I found myself doing the same thing
Joe: Sorry, just watching The Last Jedi
Dan: That’s cool, Joe. Me too! Carry on!
@@ashleysherlock5705 apologies, I over looked those when I said “since Empire”. Like them or loathe them, the Prequels are definitely ambitious in their intentions.
I’ve said for a while that the prequel and sequel trilogies have equal and opposite problems: the Prequels are full of ideas that are poorly executed, whereas the Sequels (TLJ not withstanding) are flashy, well made films that are in service of nothing.
@@ashleysherlock5705 I’m not familiar with Rick Worley. I’ll have to give him a look. I definitely respect the prequels for being a singular vision of a filmmaker, for better or for worse. Given the current trend of big franchises being exercises in film making by committee, I think that’s something a lot of us took for granted at the time. There’s also plenty that I like within them - it’s usually just weighed down for me by clunky dialogue and unimaginative visuals (action scenes not withstanding).
It's very hard not to just watch The Last Jedi - Jboi spitting facts
Sometimes I’m cleaning my room and then BOOM I’m watching the battle of crait
40:30 This was exactly my first experience with the movie. Poe is the hero of the movie therefore he must be right. And I will admit that the purple hair did look suspicious to me. And why wouldn't you share your plan with the hero?! This is bad... So the reveal later on was so effective for me. I learned some implicit biases that I had within me.
I’m glad the film took you on that intended journey and didn’t leave you going “GRRR I’M STILL RIGHT!”
I’ve been looking forward to this
I’m happy to provide exactly what everyone wants from my channel
You are objectively correct. :)
I'm assembling my new desk. This is great to have on the background. Just the sound. The full movie would be too distracting.
watched till the end, desk still not fully assembled, probably shouldn't have watched it at 1,5x speed.
I’m so honoured to be desk construction accompaniment
10:30 also what people forget about about Y-wings is that they suck, their first on screen appearance is them completely failing and needing X-wings to save the day. From a lore brain perspective it still makes sense that you'd stop using Y-wings and use X-wings for multiple roles or specialise with the Star fortress
Not to mention the rebels have always pretty much just had to use whatever they had available at the time. They're not the military industrial complex who can call up a new type of walker for every terrain (wait, I thought the originals were _All Terrain_ !), that's the other guys. The people who question the physics of bombers in space in this movie but not the physics of the originals also boggle my mind - nothing about the way the ships work makes sense, because Lucas specifically wanted the feel of scrappy real world dogfighters, so he threw the space physics text book in the bin and went with rule of cool. I thought even the grifters were on board with _that_ much at least, but apparently not.
Joe entering his Mauler arc (but less insufferable)
Only slightly
@@Joe_Brennan_I’d rather be mauled to a pulp than watch a Mauler video! Whereas… this here video is the CORRECT take!
more insufferable. Joe's commentary is just "thing look cool", whereas mauler actually has substantial analysis.
@@bananess_ "Substantial analysis"
-Describe the scene in an annoyed tone
-ask a couple of questions about it
-show clip of Luke drinking milk
-Repeat
Man, you really love TLJ. I admire the passion, brother. Do you think it would have benefitted at all from making Luke more agreeable? Like, same plot, but make some tweaks to how Luke acts?
I like this movie a lot but I hardly ever watch it so it was nice to have an excuse to watch it with you.
I also got half way through with the video on my computer and the movie open on my phone before realising it would make more sense to have the movie on the bigger screen.
Oh and I love Hmmmmmm
I’m so shocked by how many people have watched this whole thing
@@Joe_Brennan_ Why? TLJ made 1.4 billion !!! There is a silent majority that loves TLJ
It wasn’t TLJ I was doubting, it was my own hours long rambling
1:00:00 this is how I feel about the prequels, I don't like those movies but I respect the broad strokes enough to where I like thematic call-backs and ties to them
I’d much rather their themes and concepts are built on than tossed aside
It’s like Patrick Willems says: they’re not great movies, but I can respect and accept what they tell me about the universe and the story, whereas TROS says things that I don’t accept
@@danthomassolonothing about Disneys trilogy is acceptable. If you love the originals Star Wars movies you don’t love the sequels if you do then you don’t love the originals because Disneys movies destroy them and if you don’t see that you’re a fucking moron
April Fool's joke or not you are correct
The format is a joke, the opinion is real
Thank you for reminding me how much I love this movie
I really enjoyed reminding myself that too!
27:55 Daisy genuinely did great in the first 2 but yeah her best performance was TLJ and TROS just didn't do anything for her performance wise. It's good to know though that she still has a promising career.
Gee I wonder who this video is parodying
No one specific…
@@Joe_Brennan_ tbf that comment about poor video structure because they just go through the movie in chronological order applies to soooooo many people.
This movie has to be my favorite from the saga since, aside from being arguably the best, angries a group of people that gets angry because of pink hair and asian girl on space.
So everyone wins except idiots.
Try learning English before you spout burning commentary bullshit you social media cretin 🤣🤣
Haven't finished the video yet so maybe you talk about it but as per the crawl and the state of the galaxy
I've always assumed Snokes plan was to blitzkrieg the galaxy with starkiller and the supremacy but that would still take a few weeks (which is what Rey says to Luke)
The events of this movie however I felt gave an opportunity to where the 3rd movie and stuff set in-between could have soft rebooted the resistance first order conflict into something more interesting.
The combination of loosing starkiller, the supremacy and Snoke, the fact that the first order is now being ran by Kylo and Hux (two idiots) and Luke inspiring the galaxy meant that the war could have ended up being far more equally sided going into 9, instead of just being the same empire Vs rebels dynamic
That's just what I think anyway! Looking forward to finishing this hope you don't mind me leaving more comments if I have more things!
Leave as many thoughts as you want, I think that notion of a more balanced Episode IX is a great one. There was so much potential for the conflict, and it’s very funny JJ basically did away with the First Order entirely
@@Joe_Brennan_ JJ disregarding his own creations for OT fan wank is a common theme with IX. Buddy why did you Kill Hux and replace him with Richard E Grant doing a Tarkin impression!!
The Last Jedi should have been celebrated as the best version of Dune !! Alas!
I love Hmmmmmmmm 🤔
Thank you for watching
i unironically love the idea of calling people 'plausible deniability bigots'
it's like,, high-key genius,, really hits the nail on the head with these types of losers lmao
It’s exactly what they are, they skate such a narrow line of “we know what we’re talking about, you know what we’re talking about, but we’ll never say what we’re talking about and we’d deny talking ever about it”
6:10 ngl now you point it out this shot with poe is kinda similar to the one with Luke and the walkers on crait
If you already have the meat in the fridge, I say eat it. Just don't buy more.
2:00:00 I think JJ jus saw bb8 as Rey's sidekick, presumably a carryover from when Poe initially died, but if he doesn't it makes no sense for bb8 to be Rey's. R2 is the protagonist droid let Rey use him
"Plausible deniability bigots" lmao that describes those guys so well
I luv hum
"Your movie isn't good just because you had fun making it." Oh, boy, do I wish I could get this tattooed to the inside of every director and showrunner's eyelids.
Wow I’m learning about all kinds of things I said on this commentary that I since forgotten. I stand by everything!
2:12:00 tbf the dice is JJ's fault for cutting the TFA scene
It’s very funny how that ended up. Two movies building off a moment that was left on the cutting room floor
@@Joe_Brennan_ 3 technically since Duel of the fates had a brief moment with them if I remember
Nice April fools video joe. This is awkward for me since my little brothers birthday is literally April 1st.
Happy birthday to your little brother
@@Joe_Brennan_ thank you.
I love hmmm
Based asf. Also damn this is long
My computer said the same thing when I tried to export it
I agree with you, The Last Jedi is awesome but....
A) I love the Last Jedi. Phenomenal movie
B) There is NO SUCH THING as "objectively good" or "objectively bad". All film is subjective.
This was an April Fool’s video
I wanna make some commentary on your commentary as I watch, so I will post them as replies to myself.
First thing is a tangent, I hate that people (real life, not characters) pick on Kylo for losing to Rey. The movie established the power of the caster he was shot with would kill with extreme prejudice anyone without the force (so Kyle must be using it to cling to life), that Finn is a capable warrior who kylo had to first fight and wear himself vout even more, and that kylo was a mental wreck which messes up one's use of the force, while the movie established Rey is strong on the force and picking up fast (wether this makes sense or not, different discussion, the movie did establish that, her awakening to the force is literally in the title). There is an obvious way those parts go together, the movie shouldn't need to stop the scene, remind the amnesiac audience of previous scenes and spell out loud how to put them together.
I love hmm?
I love hmm
I almost forgot today was the first.
It snuck up on me
Need more stimulation where’s the Fortnite
You can play it at the bottom of the screen
A commentary with you might make me watch this movie again, but as Syrio Forel said in Game of Thrones. 'Not Today'
When I do watch movies I like to watch them in one go. Although generally most modern movies are rubbish, I love content creators making commentaries. Not every minute of it had to be a carefully considered or researched presentation and not every moment needs to be a teardown... just enjoy it. With the decline in physical media, fewer and fewer movies come with commentaries. With most of the DVD's and Blu-rays I own, if it has a commentary I have watched it more with that than just the movie itself. With this being April Fools, a few of the content creators I follow have metaphorically Rick Rolled me, on has ACTUALLY Rick Rolled me. I hope you enjoyed doing it.
Such a theatre girlie that you know westend king George
It's a TRAP !!! LMFAO !!! April 1st !!
They don't even explain why he's called Black Panther.
I love hmm
😂
ReLuam is that you ? ( reverse the name to get a certain youtubeur )
Woah it spells JayExci
What a long video
It’s a special occasion!
Is this video an April Fools prank or are you just torturing us?
Yes
Wait you actually think this film is good? 😂😂
the april fools joke IS the last jedi, because it's awful. You can't seriously look at the movie in extensive detail and claim that the numerous writing issues aren't there. Whether they effect you or not is subjective, but there are SO many issues in this film that turn people away. They could have had the same plot, ideas and themes without making a complete mess of it in terms of internal logic, cause and effect and respect to continuity.
The Last Jedi should have been celebrated as the best version of Dune !! Alas
NO, it isn't! That's all that needs to be said.
It is I’ve proven it