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@@beneunson Hi Ben - great work. Check out the stupendous recording of Bach's works by Stephan Schmidt on 10-string guitar. He plays the Prelude fugue and allegro BWV 998 in Eb. So refined and musical. Records deleted but all the pieces are on TH-cam. For those who don't know Stephan Schmidt, there is a fantastically beautiful discovery awaiting you!
The arpeggios you outline at 2:52 to 3:33 remind me of the chords in the song, "The Shadow of Your Smile." So much of Bach has been "borrowed" or "appropriated" by contemporary writers of popular music, for example the Beatles (and George Martin). Your video and analysis convincingly and clearly demonstrates Bach's contribution to contemporary music.
If you listen to the introduction of the studio version of Janis Joplin and The Holding Company's version of Summertime it is very reminiscent of Bach and the concepts you are talking about. I actually do believe it is piece of Bach music at the beginning. Sting talks about playing and learning from Bach as his biggest influence and teacher. This is very informative this video and very inspiring. Thank you for posting from Canada!!!! P.S. You should be on Rick Beato's channel discussing these concepts. That would be awesome!!!!
@@beneunson My main guitar is a Gibson ES-347 and I was looking to grab the John Scofield model as a backup. I ended up with an MIJ Ibanez SV470 and a Yamaha Revstar II with P-90s (I was somehow able to get both for 1k total), but I will definitely get either a vintage AS, the AM2000, or the JSM20 before I die. It sounds wonderful and your playing is inspiring.
Interesting analysis by a jazz musician of today. As I know they used in this years only triads. 7th chords and 5 to 7 notes chords was not used at this days (as chord progression). But maybe in their sub-mind 🙂
Great Job! Lots to dig into here. BTW, what pick are you using here? Looks very different from the purple Dunlop Tortex sharps that I thought you used.
Thank you so much, so glad you enjoyed it! And yes - you're absolutely right, I'm using a very similar pick. Instead of the Tortex Sharp 1.14mm, I've been enjoying the Tortex Pitch Black 1.14mm - great picks!
Yeah nice analysis mate i hear a lot of Bach every where recently i was goung over some old Gerry Mulligan tunes from 60 years ago and its almost Bach re invented ? I heard A C Jobim borrowed one of Chopins Nocturns for his Insensatez ? And even Dizzy Gillespe was influence by Brahms for the amazing bridge in Night in Tunisia ? Whixh also appears in Alone Together Lullaby in Birdland even Makin Wgoopie ? I find it all fascinating and its all creative stuff in the right hands What are your views on Plagerism ? Loads of musicians seem to re write melodies on tried and tested cord sequences including Andrew Loyld Webber hes done all rivht by it ,? Its good to have hobbies
Great observations, thanks for sharing! I think that as long as you're employing your own creativity while referencing the ideas of the past, you're likely to come up with something new!
Bach was a composer during a time that improvising melodic lines over figured bass notation was common for organists. His need to write continuous lines that worked well over harmonies helped him create chromatic note habits that can be compared to what the bebop soloists also came up with.
Thanks. Bach is not typically played on electric guitar, so I believe that Tab (alongside Standard Notation) is valid to help electric guitarists understand the necessary fingerings.
@@beneunson That's fair. I suppose what I see as most limiting is that tabs tell you where you need to play the note and doesn't encourage someone finding new pathways because there is no "right place" to play the notes. Maybe playing it in a set position on the lower frets for a brighter sound is what is desired for the first time through and on the repeat playing on the lower strings up the board for a darker tone is desired.
Bach wrote in traditional baroque A415hz tuning which sounded wildly different than this. Many historians theorize his work fluctuates from 415 to 460hz! I wish you would provide these videos in 415. This is Quite interesting but conveys a completely different feeling and understanding of his music when presented properly, as Bach would’ve wanted it before the Rockefeller family used Hitlers discovery of “the dissonant power of suggestion” tuning of 432hz that is meant to numb the mind. Your understanding is wonderful but I always wish the public can hear what Bach intended, as it does sound, inspires and FEELS entirely different.
In my view, it absolutely doesn't matter which pitch you chose as a starting point. The intervals are the only thing that matter and the key you play in or even the pitch you chose for your A are entirely arbitrary.
@@moimoi1350 I staunchly disagree. Have you compared the old standard 432Hz or 415 to the new 440 for yourself or is that an assumption? Night and day in both feeling and the overall message of the work. Especially with pop and more pop-centric works. Even your cells behave completely differently under a cymascope.
@@JMLRecording I wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you played in the key of D and called it A, let alone a few hertz more or less for A. If you can tell the difference you must have perfect pitch, I don't have it. All keys are perfectly equal and even to my ear, I only hear intervals.
@@beneunson Thank you for publishing my comment. I did not want to criticize you. Just politely say that there are also people who do not like the AI garbage. I can see at first view that this is a picture of Bach generated by some AI garbage. But well, I will watch the video now. Thanks again for your reply. :)
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Another great discussion Ben, it's amazing how we can appreciate Bach's genius centuries later and apply it to improvised music
Absolutely, Andreas! I agree 💯
This is incredible work that you do driving classical music with great aesthetics into electric guitar !!!
So glad you liked it!
Beautiful. My playing was advanced by learning the Bach lute suites, which were recorded by John Williams. Such beautiful, inspiring music to play.
I love John Williams' album of the lute suites. Thanks for watching!
@@beneunson Hi Ben - great work. Check out the stupendous recording of Bach's works by Stephan Schmidt on 10-string guitar. He plays the Prelude fugue and allegro BWV 998 in Eb. So refined and musical. Records deleted but all the pieces are on TH-cam. For those who don't know Stephan Schmidt, there is a fantastically beautiful discovery awaiting you!
As someone who listens to a lot of Technical Death Metal, this is right up my alley. Spawn of Possession fans know what im talking about.
Thanks so much for checking it out!
Bach's music will never get old
Absolutely right!
Just found your channel. subbed. I mostly play by ear, not much theory, and love Bach, so this content is perfect!
Thanks so much for subscribing!
You exhibit fantastic economy of motion. I can't wait to learn this.
Really appreciate you watching this - I hope you enjoy learning it!
Great analysis and Bach still inspires !
Thank you so much for watching! Bach is always inspiring!
This is so amazing!
Thank you!
The arpeggios you outline at 2:52 to 3:33 remind me of the chords in the song, "The Shadow of Your Smile." So much of Bach has been "borrowed" or "appropriated" by contemporary writers of popular music, for example the Beatles (and George Martin). Your video and analysis convincingly and clearly demonstrates Bach's contribution to contemporary music.
Great observation! I can hear the resemblance. Thanks so much for your insight, and thanks for watching!
brilliant discussion
Thanks!
Beautiful lesson! I love this! New subscriber :) thank you Ben!
Thank you so much for watching, Bryan! And welcome to my channel 😀
They were all beautiful , but excerpt 8 stands out a bit more for me , thanks for this mini lesson showing the possibilities.
I love excerpt 8, thank you so much for watching!
I mean come on! The skills are astonishing! Mind you, your facial expressions appear as though you’re presenting an episode of First 48 lol
😂😂😂 thanks for watching!
If you listen to the introduction of the studio version of Janis Joplin and The Holding Company's version of Summertime it is very reminiscent of Bach and the concepts you are talking about. I actually do believe it is piece of Bach music at the beginning. Sting talks about playing and learning from Bach as his biggest influence and teacher. This is very informative this video and very inspiring. Thank you for posting from Canada!!!! P.S. You should be on Rick Beato's channel discussing these concepts. That would be awesome!!!!
Thank you so much, great insight and I appreciate your support!
Great arpeggios.
thanks!
Fantastic topic. 🙏
Thank you so much!
Awesome!! Many thanks
Thanks for watching!
So fascinating to hear how you think of Bach's music, really enlightening! You're getting dangerously close to becoming a classical guitarist 😆
Thank you so much for watching, Daniel! Very kind of you to say - if only I could play this music as good as you can!
Бах жив!
Yes!
Great video.
Thanks Lee!
Is that a vintage AS? That guitar is beautiful.
Thanks so much, it's actually a new Ibanez AM2000H
@@beneunson My main guitar is a Gibson ES-347 and I was looking to grab the John Scofield model as a backup. I ended up with an MIJ Ibanez SV470 and a Yamaha Revstar II with P-90s (I was somehow able to get both for 1k total), but I will definitely get either a vintage AS, the AM2000, or the JSM20 before I die. It sounds wonderful and your playing is inspiring.
Thank you so much for listening!
I like #6 using the diminished pieces.
I love it too!
Lovely
Thanks for watching!
Please do an analysis of Paganini’s Caprice 24. Thanks !
Great suggestion! Thanks for watching!
Oh... that is 300 year music exercise. Nice...
Yes! Thanks for watching!
mind numbing.... 👊
In a good way, I hope! 😂 Thanks for watching
Bach was nasty man. I like how he uses simple triads but spreads them out. And his V chords are simply perfect.
Absolutely! Brilliant cadences, they still sound amazing today
Interesting analysis by a jazz musician of today. As I know they used in this years only triads. 7th chords and 5 to 7 notes chords was not used at this days (as chord progression). But maybe in their sub-mind 🙂
Thanks so much for checking out the analysis!
Great Job! Lots to dig into here. BTW, what pick are you using here? Looks very different from the purple Dunlop Tortex sharps that I thought you used.
Thank you so much, so glad you enjoyed it! And yes - you're absolutely right, I'm using a very similar pick. Instead of the Tortex Sharp 1.14mm, I've been enjoying the Tortex Pitch Black 1.14mm - great picks!
@@beneunson Thank you. Additionally it looks like a smaller, Jazz-style pick as oppose to the more regular sized, 351 pick.
More imperfect cadences than I would have expected, but I tend to think they sound better anyway.
Great cadences, right?
That thumbnail lol...
😂
Slide into the phrase and end with a bend, and you sound like Randy Rhoads!
Haha yes!
Yeah nice analysis mate i hear a lot of Bach every where recently i was goung over some old Gerry Mulligan tunes from 60 years ago and its almost Bach re invented ? I heard A C Jobim borrowed one of Chopins Nocturns for his Insensatez ? And even Dizzy Gillespe was influence by Brahms for the amazing bridge in Night in Tunisia ? Whixh also appears in Alone Together Lullaby in Birdland even Makin Wgoopie ? I find it all fascinating and its all creative stuff in the right hands What are your views on Plagerism ? Loads of musicians seem to re write melodies on tried and tested cord sequences including Andrew Loyld Webber hes done all rivht by it ,? Its good to have hobbies
Great observations, thanks for sharing! I think that as long as you're employing your own creativity while referencing the ideas of the past, you're likely to come up with something new!
Personally, I like them all.
I like them all as well!
Great stuff. Snippets could be used chromatically and sound more modern. Conversely there’s food for thought by arpeggiating using 9ths and 4ths…
Absolutely, all are valid possiblities! Thanks for watching!
Bach on electric guitar = Cliffs of Dover by Eric Johnson
You can definitely hear a Bach-like connection with Eric's use of triads!
FunTasty!
Thanks for watching!
Ill be Bach
😂😂😂
so bach is jazz? got it
jazz is bach*
Bach was a composer during a time that improvising melodic lines over figured bass notation was common for organists. His need to write continuous lines that worked well over harmonies helped him create chromatic note habits that can be compared to what the bebop soloists also came up with.
@@BrianOates that was long but im glad i read it
watch his fingers without sound
Great stuff - but tabs have no place here.
Thanks. Bach is not typically played on electric guitar, so I believe that Tab (alongside Standard Notation) is valid to help electric guitarists understand the necessary fingerings.
@@beneunson That's fair. I suppose what I see as most limiting is that tabs tell you where you need to play the note and doesn't encourage someone finding new pathways because there is no "right place" to play the notes. Maybe playing it in a set position on the lower frets for a brighter sound is what is desired for the first time through and on the repeat playing on the lower strings up the board for a darker tone is desired.
JSB still The Boss.
I agree!
Bach wrote in traditional baroque A415hz tuning which sounded wildly different than this. Many historians theorize his work fluctuates from 415 to 460hz! I wish you would provide these videos in 415. This is Quite interesting but conveys a completely different feeling and understanding of his music when presented properly, as Bach would’ve wanted it before the Rockefeller family used Hitlers discovery of “the dissonant power of suggestion” tuning of 432hz that is meant to numb the mind. Your understanding is wonderful but I always wish the public can hear what Bach intended, as it does sound, inspires and FEELS entirely different.
In my view, it absolutely doesn't matter which pitch you chose as a starting point. The intervals are the only thing that matter and the key you play in or even the pitch you chose for your A are entirely arbitrary.
@@moimoi1350 I staunchly disagree. Have you compared the old standard 432Hz or 415 to the new 440 for yourself or is that an assumption? Night and day in both feeling and the overall message of the work. Especially with pop and more pop-centric works. Even your cells behave completely differently under a cymascope.
Pseudoscience bullshit
@@JMLRecording I wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you played in the key of D and called it A, let alone a few hertz more or less for A. If you can tell the difference you must have perfect pitch, I don't have it. All keys are perfectly equal and even to my ear, I only hear intervals.
Bach is not pronounced Bak. The ending its more pronounced like the famous Klingon food Gagh. Go for Bagh! 😂😂Cheers
😂😂😂 thanks for watching!
@@beneunson Enjoyed it! You're great player!
I generally don't watch videos with AI garbage as a thumb or even worse in the content. Too bad.
No AI is present in this video, just pure analysis of JS Bach 👍
@@beneunson Thank you for publishing my comment. I did not want to criticize you. Just politely say that there are also people who do not like the AI garbage. I can see at first view that this is a picture of Bach generated by some AI garbage.
But well, I will watch the video now. Thanks again for your reply. :)
@@gitarrenTag I will watch the video because you are watching it. Will anyone watch this video because I am watching because you are watching?
@@pantsarmstrong7518 Yes, Bach already said: 'Do you watch video or do you not watch video, that is the question' :-)