You either need 1 shotgun. Or You need your sporting clay gun, skeet gun, trap gun, duck gun, goose gun, grouse gun, wood cock gun, You and should also have these in a combination of 12, 20 16 and 28G, You need some to be SXS, some OU and a few semi auto as well. You should also have a pump that is extra noisy to deter any one from trespassing.
@@2anthro just practice with it. I would sometimes break out the model42 .410 to shoot trap with at my club for standard shoots. Wasn’t doing 24/25 like a 12g but it still was fun and broke tons of targets.
My Remington model 870 wingmaster with both a bird barrel with Rem chokes and a slug barrel. This covers 95 percent of all my hunting in southern Michigan.
I started with a 12 gauge Ithaca single shot when I was fifteen. I bought a used Savage 16gauge over under when I was nineteen. I used both of them for whatever I hunted. When I was twenty years old in 1974. I bought a Remington 870 with a full choke barrel and a slug barrel for deer hunting. I also bought a Beretta AL2 12 gauge auto. It had a full choke barrel. I bought it because it looked really nice. It was a pound or two lighter than the 870 so I used it whenever I could in place of the 870. I used the slug barrel on the 870 for hunting in the woods. They were improved cylinder choke so they worked well in the woods. The one I had was 21'' long. In 1993 I bought a Ruger over under in 20 gauge and that became my most of the time shotgun. The Remington 870 and the Savage over under were both sold because I never used them anyway after I bought the over under. In 2022 I bought a 12 gauge Franchi Instinct SL that is now my do everything shotgun. I like break action shotguns because they can have a 28" barrel and be about the same length as an auto or pump with a 24" barrel. They can be made safe by simply breaking them open. I like how they look too.
If you’re going to add a sub gauge to the collection, it might be a good time to look at a different platform rather than another autoloader. Maybe a good over-under or a pump action?
Of all the shotguns I have and had it comes down to a old Stevens 20ga double for Quail & dove and a S&W pump that I used for years for everything. Bought both of them when I was a kid and still have them.
Lots! Semi autos for dove, 12ga o/u for clays, a turkey gun in 12 and 28, duck gun semi auto in 12 and 28ga, a goose/turkey gun in 10ga semi-auto. And of coarse collector guns that are just cool.
Interchangeable chokes definitely help to reduce the number you need, but as an old fart who's been around for a while, you used to want, at minimum, a blind/passing, a goose/turkey, and a field shotgun. Throw in backups and other special-purpose shotguns, and you start to develop a long list.
I have 3 shotguns. First I started with pump , 5 years i hunted with it (boars, hare, ducks, doves, woodys) . Second gun I bought semi. As I got used to it I got slow with the pump. So carried on with semi. After 4 years I got side by side. Last season I hunted with it loving it. I'm going to use mostly the side by side.
Had all kind of shotguns win, brownings remington ,baikal, benelli, and list goes on but there is one that is above the rest that i will never get rid of are the beretta s they are amazing
Started on a youth 20 (which I have for the kids) cycled through a few pump 12s and now have an SBE3 12ga, a mossberg reserve o/u 12ga, just picked up the mossberg SA-28 and a fun 22mag over .410 which is an amazing small game gun. Think I'm done for a bit!
I have 3 pump actions, 2 semiauto and a bolt action slug gun. Iv bought and sold several others over the years and no realize I need an O/U back in the safe so that will be on its way soon…thinking a browning synergy 🤔 🤘🏻🇨🇦😎🍻
My experience is this: For those with limited budget and isn’t hardcore into shooting sports I suggest a Remington 870 combo. It will cover any bird hunting from waterfowl, upland, turkey etc. the combo slug barrel will cover deer and of hogs. It is also fine for shooting sports (trap, sporting clays and skeet). I probably have 10 different shotguns using an OU for sporting and upland and a Vinci for waterfowl. I also use the Vinci for turkey. Sometimes rotate others for upland or sporting but having near a dozen I really use 3 of them 90% of the time. I have a dedicated slug gun with a scope (Mossberg) but lately have been using a .350 rifle because I can mount my can on it for deer.
ehh, i don’t really like the newer 870s. From my experience i would go with a winchester sxp since i have a 12 and 20G and haven’t had one single issue and i’ve shot probably almost 2000 rounds on both guns.
I'm 73 years old and have probably had 30 shotguns over the years. I don't really hunt anything but pheasants nowadays, and I shoot sporting clays. So I have pared down what I own to just a few specific shotguns. My go to shotguns now are 2 Benellis. A 12 gauge and 20 gauge Montefeltro. Both have the fields barrels and the sporting barrels. Those are all I need today.
Hi George. Love the breakdown! I just picked up my dedicated turkey shotgun, a new Mossberg 930 with a pistol grip. I’m going to outfit it with a scope due to my aging eyes but I’m excited for next season. My current setup, which I do love, is a Mossberg 835 with a 20” barrel and open sights. I’ve got a separate scoped barrel for deer season so the 835 will still cover my deer hunting needs as well as being a backup for my new dedicated turkey shotgun. Love the channel keep up the good work.
I only have 2, a pump and an automatic. The 870 pump is very versatile in that an array of different length barrels can be swapped out in seconds and configured for the job at hand.
You need a rabbit gun a squirrel gun a pheasant gun a duck / goose gun a deer gun a turket gun . then you need to cover trap skeet and sporting clays And then you need them in 12 ,16 ,20 ,410 .. you can add 28 gauge in if you are really serious about it .. then you can go with different actions pump autoloader break open in single and double barrel with can be side by side or over under ,then there bolt action . So do the math ..but I only have 8
Browning gold hunter, from the 28" field barrel to 22 inch smoothbore/cantilever barrel with a scope, brought down many game from small game, waterfowl, to deer, it jams sometime but thats because she hate running dry and hates the cold in the negative, idk its just me but love the browning quick load with the locking back bolt
1 deer gun (Ithaca 37) for shotgun only areas, 1 dedicated turkey gun (Savage 220A), 1 turkey/upland combo (Stoeger M3020), 1 Weatherby 12ga for waterfowl, a Remington 870 .410 and 3 Browning's including a Sweet Sixteen A5 which has never jammed. The only thing I regret selling was a 24" bbl with choke tubes for the A5 16ga.
Great video George, thanks for this review of your scattergun collection! ( I have the same Browning Sweet 16, function is about 90%) My turkey guns are: 1) Ithaca 37 (1949) 12ga 2 3/4” 30” full 2) Franchi Affinity 3 20ga 3” 26” Burris FF3 3) Ithaca 37 (1950) 16ga 2 3/4”
I had a similar path to yours, George. Started with a family mossberg 500, and used that all the way until I bought myself my “forever shotgun” which was a synthetic browning maxus. It fit me well and I used that for a couple years on doves, ducks, turkey, coyotes, until the 16ga bug bit me by way of my uncle, and when I held my first A5 sweet 16 it was magic. It was light, I could look at something, close my eyes, shoulder it, and when I opened my eyes the bead would be right there. In use, I point it and birds fall. So my maxus is now my waterfowl gun as I dont have to worry about moisture affecting it too much, and my A5 is my upland gun. And now just a week ago, perusing my local gun shop, I found the exact model of 16ga that gave me the bug-and now this 16ga stevens/savage 5100 side by side is now my dedicated turkey gun 😂
I've got my rem 870 with a rifled barrel dedicated to slug hunting in 12 guage. An o/u 12 guage and a semi-auto. Both tri-star shotguns for wingshooting. Same thread patterns for all my choke tubes. In 20 guage. I have an o/u. And I have 20 other 20 guages in a winchester model 1200. Both in the full sized and the youth model. All the parts are interchangeable. There is something to be said about having guns that you can swap parts. Or a couple of different guages, depending on the game you're after.
My friend...there is something special and soothing and really calms the nerves when a person goes into a gun shop and handles a brand spanking new gun and imagines themselves hunting in the woods with it. No matter how many guns we already have that feeling/new purchase keeps happening. The first thing we have to admit is we have a problem...a good problem lol 😃 God bless the USA!! And God bless you thanks and keep em coming!!
Good stuff. I’m 46 and have only had one shotgun since I was 12. I’ve hunted big game, small game, dove, skeet, etc. Remington 870 Wingmaster 12 Gauge Pump.
Amazing we're around the same age. I got my wingmaster at around age 16 and thats really all anyone really need. It was my do it all shotgun for years. But my love for guns ran wilder than my income, so while eating rice and beans only I was able to pick up a few more over the years. Like 20 more. One for each game birds and I still need more, not want, need. The next one should be my last one, I promise.
Nice to see that you have still got 'THE' shotgun. I had a Browning for about 40 years and it took a lot of shots on ducks,geese, pigeons and crows, to wear it out. Like yours I had to replace springs and spot weld various points that had worn with mud and sand. Eventualy I gave up and bought a new A5, which again I had problems with the feeding, after 5 years!. A new magazine and stock spring fixed that (the originals were poor quality) This again has accounted for every thing that is legal: that flies or runs. But to save me wearing it out; and not needing a 3-1/2" gun. I bought a Beretta 3" for pigeons, crows and squirrels. My other shotguns are a cheap Russian single .410 for autumn squirrels in the oak trees. A beautiful side plated 12 bore OU for pheasant shooting (as autos on a shoot are frowned upon) Finally my 8 bore which I love as it has accounted for uncountable ducks and geese on the marsh. Do I need any more? As I am now retired and can afford anything_ NO! Am I happy. POSSIBLY?
How many golf clubs or fishing rods do you need? I used a Rem 870 12ga with two barrels for the first 20 years, then I started duck hunting, then upland game, then turkey hunting and on & on. Now I’m older and recoil sensitive so have to look at 20 & 28 ga going forward.
George, great video. 👍🏼 Being that you have an Auto-5 (one of my favorites) and I am the type who see’s a “broken” shotgun and thinks “I can fix that…”, makes me question what your troubles with that sweet 16 are? What kind malfunctions are you experiencing? Sometimes the chambers of a shotgun are forgotten and many issues can be resolved with a clean, hone, and polishing. Also of note with 16ga repeaters in general is observing what chamber length they have and the actual length of a fired hull. I have seen and experienced all sorts of issues from hulls that are a bit long, even though they are packaged as 2-3/4”. Primarily I have experienced issues with Federal and Rio brands while 16ga winchesters and Remingtons worked great and were a shorter over-all length hull (this being in a 2-3/4” chambered Model 12 in 16ga. Just food for thought… might not be a problem with the mechanics, but ammunition and chamber.
You could be on to something. I've tried to address those items, but I'm not an expert. I've also used maybe half a dozen brands of ammo from target, to game, to magnum shells. The gun either stove pipes the shell or just closes again with the spent shell still in the chamber. About half the time.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide to me, the combination of those two malfunctions across loadings and power levels would indicate that the shotgun either has a rough chamber, not enough oil/grease on the magazine tube, and or the orientation of the compression rings is not correct for the loads being used. Long recoil actions can be very finicky sometimes, and a couple of small issues can stack to cause a big headache. I would play with polishing up the chamber and the orientation of the friction and compression rings. For example, I have had many troubles with the Auto-5 Magnum Twelve in getting light and moderate loads cycling, even when following the exact instructions provided by Browning. The proper lubrication of the magazine tube and orientation of the recoil assembly is critical to reliable function, even if sometimes it is not the exact recommended method by the original manuals. Recoil assemblies also changed over time, and this can also impact function. While many Auto-5’s were assembled with a flat wire barrel spring, some had round wire. Likewise, some friction pieces and rings differ in geometry from different time periods and production runs. Over the course of nearly 90+ years of production, the Auto-5 shotgun underwent many iterative changes, so swapping out to replacement parts is not always a 1-to-1 operation. Art’s Gunshop has a number of great videos covering the topic, and Mark Novak just released a great video going over an early Auto-5 fix/troubleshoot that covers some of these items. Those references may be a good place to start in resolving your examples issues. If you were to ultimately need to send the shotgun into a gun-smith for servicing, Art’s and Midwest Gun-works would be your first stop as they specialize in or commonly service the A5; Browning USA proper does not, to the best of my knowledge, still provide servicing of the Auto-5 (and I honestly would not trust them to do so). I hope some of this information helps.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide of course! And just a thought… the barrel on that shotgun has a comp-choke system and is a solid rib… is it original to the shotgun? Does it match the receiver? If not, fitment of the barrel extension to the receiver could also be an issue. More food for thought… Keep up the good work on your channel!
@@AmericanArmsChannel I have no idea on that. The gun was father in laws, and his dads before him. I'm not sure if the gun came that way or it was added later. That could very well be contributing to this because the whole barrels to cycle the action so adding mass to the end of the barrel may indeed result in issues like this. Good idea.
I would be fine with any of my own shotguns, sxs,o/u,pump. Still, I want to keep them all. If I could keep only one, maybe my choice would be over/under, or a pump. Then I would miss sxs because it's the most beautiful.
Sure wish I had started out with that gun instead of an old 16 ga. Montgomery Wards single-barrel. That old gun taught me how to flinch. Which one of yours would you hunt deer with?
Sorry to ask all of these questions but I don't have too many people I can geek out on this type of stuff with lol....Why do you think we traditionally have used a 30" circle for testing patterns? Wouldn't having a rectangle of the same area as a 30" circle be more applicable to duck hunting? My thoughts are, on average, most of our misses are due to being off horizontally vs vertically. Does that make sense?
Why is it 30"? Oh that dates back before my time to how choke constriction is measured at distance. I just don't have a great reason to change it. For a circle vs a square, pattern dispersal is generally circular and shots and angles come in all shapes and sizes from left to right to diagonal to over head. A square doesn't lend itself to being as versatile.
I have had/seen a couple semi autos that would develop a “lip” on the inside of the chamber face from the bolt closing home during cycling, which would snag the shell as the extractor tried to pull it out. The most common two issues I see on gas operated shotguns is; 1) guys don’t think to take the butt stock off and clean the recoil spring and it’s housing and it rusts or gums up causing drag. 2) the shell release latch for the magazine tube gets marred up where it rides on the action bar. I haven’t had too many issues with my recoil operated guns, but I hope you get that 16 ga figured out! I believe the answer is that every hunter needs 2 shotguns.. one for yourself and one so you can take a youth!
Nice video bud! But one question always plagued me, why don't we hunt with shotguns having a bull pup configuration? you can have a long barrel with a short gun, the weight is close to the body and back , ideal for off the shoulder shots , less fatigue and easier maneuverability .
If I lost my current shotguns, I would buy a 20 gauge & 12 gauge Mossberg Maverick 88 & call it a day! Two shotguns that just plain work for under $400 total. My local Walmart still stocks/sells the Mossberg Maverick 88 12 gauge, 20 gauge, & 20 gauge youth for $197-$199 each. That's all I would really need, & anything beyond would be a want. The 500 (1961) & Maverick 88 (1988) have been around for 63 & 36 years respectively.
I think a turkey shotgun with a pistol grip is more comfortable to hold (because my hand is in a more vertical position) for the long periods of time I sometimes have to wait for reluctant turkey to come into range. But I don't think that setup is good for fast moving targets because it is harder to swing in a straight line.
Because I already had 2 12 gauges with interchangeable chokes and parts, its sheer utility. I am looking at adding a 20 to the line up this year, but mostly because people keep asking for test videos with one lol.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide I was raised on a 12 gauge turkey hunting, but the advantages of a 20 were more than I realized until I started using one. Lightweight, smaller dimensions, lower recoil, and more maneuverable for example. I now own three 20s that will occasionally make their way into the field with me. TSS is cheaper in a 20 as well, and quite honestly a 12 gauge with TSS is a bit of an overkill if you look at the patterns they produce. I would highly recommend putting one in your arsenal for more than testing purposes. I’d be more than happy to offer mine up for testing as well.
When did you start hunting? I grew up with hunters, dreaming of going hunting. I went on my first hunt when I was 4 years old for squirrels. I am almost 36.
You are the New Hunter in New Hunter’s Guide. Do you mind to share why, how you came to hunting at an older age wo the background? Might make a podcast.
@@Joshua-yr2fz I have a podcast by the same name with some 300 episodes, covering that and more in great depth. Also, if you go back to the first couple videos on the channel, some of it is there too.
It very well could be. Provided the extra barrels didn't rival the cost of more guns. I was looking for a multi barreled 20 gauge, so I could have a 26" for duck hunting and an 18" for turkey's, but the gun I want has no such options. But some do.
Regarding shotgun brands, in my opinion Mossburg shotguns are underrated, and Benelli shotguns are overrated. Browning makes sturdy shotguns, but they are complex, which can create problems. As far as reliability goes, my Charles Daly triple magnum is the most reliable gun I have ever owned. It never malfunctions even when dirty.
It's on my list! Lots of people want to see lots of different things. Most of it costs money. And whatever doesn't takes time. Lots of good stuff coming.
I guarantee that polychoke wasn't factory installed. A common thing was amateur gunsmiths would solder that to an already existing modified. The factory will cut the entire choke off before installing
@@TheNewHuntersGuide and that's a shame because I paid to have factory installation on 2 of mine and they're very functional and useful in hunting situations compared to choke tubes. Poly Choke went bankrupt somewhere around 2017
There is a word in Turkiye. Boys dont grow up, just the price of their toys incease. 1 is always less. This question is like... how many girls... 😂 Dont blame me. Everyone thinks like that. Admit it😊
I don’t know about overrated I have an m2. I’ve had it since they came out. It’s my beater even though it’s the most expensive semi I own. It’s been in the dirt the mud the rocks. It balances nice as an upland gun. Carry’s nice right at seven pounds. Gets put up dirty and only gets cleaned once a year in December when the weather changes.if I had to sell all my guns but got to keep one that’s the one I’d keep.
You either need 1 shotgun. Or You need your sporting clay gun, skeet gun, trap gun, duck gun, goose gun, grouse gun, wood cock gun, You and should also have these in a combination of 12, 20 16 and 28G, You need some to be SXS, some OU and a few semi auto as well. You should also have a pump that is extra noisy to deter any one from trespassing.
Haha, right on.
Hell yeah!!!!!
Bought a 28 O/U. Can’t hit the ground with it.
Never enough 😂
@@2anthro just practice with it. I would sometimes break out the model42 .410 to shoot trap with at my club for standard shoots. Wasn’t doing 24/25 like a 12g but it still was fun and broke tons of targets.
Can never have too many shotguns
My Remington model 870 wingmaster with both a bird barrel with Rem chokes and a slug barrel. This covers 95 percent of all my hunting in southern Michigan.
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870 covers all my waterfowl needs in Alaska too
I started with a 12 gauge Ithaca single shot when I was fifteen. I bought a used Savage 16gauge over under when I was nineteen. I used both of them for whatever I hunted. When I was twenty years old in 1974. I bought a Remington 870 with a full choke barrel and a slug barrel for deer hunting. I also bought a Beretta AL2 12 gauge auto. It had a full choke barrel. I bought it because it looked really nice. It was a pound or two lighter than the 870 so I used it whenever I could in place of the 870. I used the slug barrel on the 870 for hunting in the woods. They were improved cylinder choke so they worked well in the woods. The one I had was 21'' long. In 1993 I bought a Ruger over under in 20 gauge and that became my most of the time shotgun. The Remington 870 and the Savage over under were both sold because I never used them anyway after I bought the over under. In 2022 I bought a 12 gauge Franchi Instinct SL that is now my do everything shotgun. I like break action shotguns because they can have a 28" barrel and be about the same length as an auto or pump with a 24" barrel. They can be made safe by simply breaking them open. I like how they look too.
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Ill admit i have a shotgun addiction, i cant quit buying them! You can never have to many!!
I just need one when I'm hunting. But at home I need over 20 backups depending on the species , terrain, and weather.
Haha, well said.
The 940's are absolutely outstanding shotguns. Some people have a preconceived dislike for them, but they are exceptionally made shotguns
Been working great for me!
Moss has been reliable for me. Have not had a problem with any of mine!
I have been hunting for over 45 years. I came across your you tube videos and I love them , keep them coming.
Thank you so much!
If you’re going to add a sub gauge to the collection, it might be a good time to look at a different platform rather than another autoloader. Maybe a good over-under or a pump action?
Eh, I don't more actions just for fun, at least not yet.
The safety’s being in the same place is a big plus also. Not to mention the basic feel and the trigger.
Good point
Of all the shotguns I have and had it comes down to a old Stevens 20ga double for Quail & dove and a S&W pump that I used for years for everything. Bought both of them when I was a kid and still have them.
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Lots! Semi autos for dove, 12ga o/u for clays, a turkey gun in 12 and 28, duck gun semi auto in 12 and 28ga, a goose/turkey gun in 10ga semi-auto. And of coarse collector guns that are just cool.
Interchangeable chokes definitely help to reduce the number you need, but as an old fart who's been around for a while, you used to want, at minimum, a blind/passing, a goose/turkey, and a field shotgun. Throw in backups and other special-purpose shotguns, and you start to develop a long list.
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One more
HAHA, well said.
I have 3 shotguns. First I started with pump , 5 years i hunted with it (boars, hare, ducks, doves, woodys) . Second gun I bought semi. As I got used to it I got slow with the pump. So carried on with semi. After 4 years I got side by side. Last season I hunted with it loving it. I'm going to use mostly the side by side.
It's alot of fun exploring different types isn't it!
Had all kind of shotguns win, brownings remington ,baikal, benelli, and list goes on but there is one that is above the rest that i will never get rid of are the beretta s they are amazing
oops ooops i have a way too many ... but i just can't choose just one ... great video, I loved it
Started on a youth 20 (which I have for the kids) cycled through a few pump 12s and now have an SBE3 12ga, a mossberg reserve o/u 12ga, just picked up the mossberg SA-28 and a fun 22mag over .410 which is an amazing small game gun. Think I'm done for a bit!
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It is ever how many you want. Terry Clark in Alabama 73s
I have 3 pump actions, 2 semiauto and a bolt action slug gun. Iv bought and sold several others over the years and no realize I need an O/U back in the safe so that will be on its way soon…thinking a browning synergy 🤔 🤘🏻🇨🇦😎🍻
I call my first shotgun ol' unreliable!😅 My uncle gave it to me. I was like you just happy to have a gun to be able to hunt with
Love those kinds of stories!
My experience is this:
For those with limited budget and isn’t hardcore into shooting sports I suggest a Remington 870 combo. It will cover any bird hunting from waterfowl, upland, turkey etc. the combo slug barrel will cover deer and of hogs. It is also fine for shooting sports (trap, sporting clays and skeet).
I probably have 10 different shotguns using an OU for sporting and upland and a Vinci for waterfowl. I also use the Vinci for turkey. Sometimes rotate others for upland or sporting but having near a dozen I really use 3 of them 90% of the time. I have a dedicated slug gun with a scope (Mossberg) but lately have been using a .350 rifle because I can mount my can on it for deer.
ehh, i don’t really like the newer 870s. From my experience i would go with a winchester sxp since i have a 12 and 20G and haven’t had one single issue and i’ve shot probably almost 2000 rounds on both guns.
but if it were an older 870, damn right i would get it.
I'm 73 years old and have probably had 30 shotguns over the years. I don't really hunt anything but pheasants nowadays, and I shoot sporting clays. So I have pared down what I own to just a few specific shotguns.
My go to shotguns now are 2 Benellis. A 12 gauge and 20 gauge Montefeltro. Both have the fields barrels and the sporting barrels. Those are all I need today.
Hi George. Love the breakdown! I just picked up my dedicated turkey shotgun, a new Mossberg 930 with a pistol grip. I’m going to outfit it with a scope due to my aging eyes but I’m excited for next season.
My current setup, which I do love, is a Mossberg 835 with a 20” barrel and open sights. I’ve got a separate scoped barrel for deer season so the 835 will still cover my deer hunting needs as well as being a backup for my new dedicated turkey shotgun.
Love the channel keep up the good work.
Awesome, thanks!
I only have 2, a pump and an automatic. The 870 pump is very versatile in that an array of different length barrels can be swapped out in seconds and configured for the job at hand.
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You need a rabbit gun a squirrel gun a pheasant gun a duck / goose gun a deer gun a turket gun .
then you need to cover trap skeet and sporting clays And then you need them in 12 ,16 ,20 ,410 .. you can add 28 gauge in if you are really serious about it .. then you can go with different actions pump autoloader break open in single and double barrel with can be side by side or over under ,then there bolt action . So do the math ..but I only have 8
Haha
Browning gold hunter, from the 28" field barrel to 22 inch smoothbore/cantilever barrel with a scope, brought down many game from small game, waterfowl, to deer, it jams sometime but thats because she hate running dry and hates the cold in the negative, idk its just me but love the browning quick load with the locking back bolt
1 deer gun (Ithaca 37) for shotgun only areas, 1 dedicated turkey gun (Savage 220A), 1 turkey/upland combo (Stoeger M3020), 1 Weatherby 12ga for waterfowl, a Remington 870 .410 and 3 Browning's including a Sweet Sixteen A5 which has never jammed. The only thing I regret selling was a 24" bbl with choke tubes for the A5 16ga.
Thats a good collection there!
Great video George, thanks for this review of your scattergun collection! ( I have the same Browning Sweet 16, function is about 90%) My turkey guns are: 1) Ithaca 37 (1949) 12ga 2 3/4” 30” full
2) Franchi Affinity 3 20ga 3” 26” Burris FF3
3) Ithaca 37 (1950) 16ga 2 3/4”
Nice! Thanks!
I had a similar path to yours, George. Started with a family mossberg 500, and used that all the way until I bought myself my “forever shotgun” which was a synthetic browning maxus. It fit me well and I used that for a couple years on doves, ducks, turkey, coyotes, until the 16ga bug bit me by way of my uncle, and when I held my first A5 sweet 16 it was magic. It was light, I could look at something, close my eyes, shoulder it, and when I opened my eyes the bead would be right there. In use, I point it and birds fall. So my maxus is now my waterfowl gun as I dont have to worry about moisture affecting it too much, and my A5 is my upland gun. And now just a week ago, perusing my local gun shop, I found the exact model of 16ga that gave me the bug-and now this 16ga stevens/savage 5100 side by side is now my dedicated turkey gun 😂
Love it!
This is what I mean,great job simplifying one gun can serve the purpose! But back ups are good to have!keep it up
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I've got my rem 870 with a rifled barrel dedicated to slug hunting in 12 guage.
An o/u 12 guage and a semi-auto. Both tri-star shotguns for wingshooting. Same thread patterns for all my choke tubes.
In 20 guage. I have an o/u. And I have 20 other 20 guages in a winchester model 1200. Both in the full sized and the youth model. All the parts are interchangeable.
There is something to be said about having guns that you can swap parts. Or a couple of different guages, depending on the game you're after.
Not 20, 20 guages. Lol. Only 2.
I was gonna say, that's alot of 20 gauges, lol
My friend...there is something special and soothing and really calms the nerves when a person goes into a gun shop and handles a brand spanking new gun and imagines themselves hunting in the woods with it. No matter how many guns we already have that feeling/new purchase keeps happening. The first thing we have to admit is we have a problem...a good problem lol 😃 God bless the USA!! And God bless you thanks and keep em coming!!
Its like womens' bags and shoes... right? Never enough.
Thank you!
Good stuff. I’m 46 and have only had one shotgun since I was 12. I’ve hunted big game, small game, dove, skeet, etc. Remington 870 Wingmaster 12 Gauge Pump.
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Amazing we're around the same age. I got my wingmaster at around age 16 and thats really all anyone really need. It was my do it all shotgun for years. But my love for guns ran wilder than my income, so while eating rice and beans only I was able to pick up a few more over the years. Like 20 more. One for each game birds and I still need more, not want, need. The next one should be my last one, I promise.
@@MT-vm1zh haha
Nice to see that you have still got 'THE' shotgun. I had a Browning for about 40 years and it took a lot of shots on ducks,geese, pigeons and crows, to wear it out. Like yours I had to replace springs and spot weld various points that had worn with mud and sand. Eventualy I gave up and bought a new A5, which again I had problems with the feeding, after 5 years!. A new magazine and stock spring fixed that (the originals were poor quality) This again has accounted for every thing that is legal: that flies or runs. But to save me wearing it out; and not needing a 3-1/2" gun. I bought a Beretta 3" for pigeons, crows and squirrels. My other shotguns are a cheap Russian single .410 for autumn squirrels in the oak trees. A beautiful side plated 12 bore OU for pheasant shooting (as autos on a shoot are frowned upon) Finally my 8 bore which I love as it has accounted for uncountable ducks and geese on the marsh. Do I need any more? As I am now retired and can afford anything_ NO! Am I happy. POSSIBLY?
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Not mine, but shot a berretta 400, real nice, zero recoil, zero failures
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How many golf clubs or fishing rods do you need? I used a Rem 870 12ga with two barrels for the first 20 years, then I started duck hunting, then upland game, then turkey hunting and on & on. Now I’m older and recoil sensitive so have to look at 20 & 28 ga going forward.
George, great video. 👍🏼
Being that you have an Auto-5 (one of my favorites) and I am the type who see’s a “broken” shotgun and thinks “I can fix that…”, makes me question what your troubles with that sweet 16 are?
What kind malfunctions are you experiencing? Sometimes the chambers of a shotgun are forgotten and many issues can be resolved with a clean, hone, and polishing.
Also of note with 16ga repeaters in general is observing what chamber length they have and the actual length of a fired hull. I have seen and experienced all sorts of issues from hulls that are a bit long, even though they are packaged as 2-3/4”. Primarily I have experienced issues with Federal and Rio brands while 16ga winchesters and Remingtons worked great and were a shorter over-all length hull (this being in a 2-3/4” chambered Model 12 in 16ga.
Just food for thought… might not be a problem with the mechanics, but ammunition and chamber.
You could be on to something. I've tried to address those items, but I'm not an expert. I've also used maybe half a dozen brands of ammo from target, to game, to magnum shells. The gun either stove pipes the shell or just closes again with the spent shell still in the chamber. About half the time.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide to me, the combination of those two malfunctions across loadings and power levels would indicate that the shotgun either has a rough chamber, not enough oil/grease on the magazine tube, and or the orientation of the compression rings is not correct for the loads being used.
Long recoil actions can be very finicky sometimes, and a couple of small issues can stack to cause a big headache.
I would play with polishing up the chamber and the orientation of the friction and compression rings. For example, I have had many troubles with the Auto-5 Magnum Twelve in getting light and moderate loads cycling, even when following the exact instructions provided by Browning. The proper lubrication of the magazine tube and orientation of the recoil assembly is critical to reliable function, even if sometimes it is not the exact recommended method by the original manuals. Recoil assemblies also changed over time, and this can also impact function. While many Auto-5’s were assembled with a flat wire barrel spring, some had round wire. Likewise, some friction pieces and rings differ in geometry from different time periods and production runs. Over the course of nearly 90+ years of production, the Auto-5 shotgun underwent many iterative changes, so swapping out to replacement parts is not always a 1-to-1 operation.
Art’s Gunshop has a number of great videos covering the topic, and Mark Novak just released a great video going over an early Auto-5 fix/troubleshoot that covers some of these items. Those references may be a good place to start in resolving your examples issues. If you were to ultimately need to send the shotgun into a gun-smith for servicing, Art’s and Midwest Gun-works would be your first stop as they specialize in or commonly service the A5; Browning USA proper does not, to the best of my knowledge, still provide servicing of the Auto-5 (and I honestly would not trust them to do so).
I hope some of this information helps.
@@AmericanArmsChannel Thanks so much! I have done all that can be done with the compression rings, but polishing the chamber is a new idea. Thanks.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide of course! And just a thought… the barrel on that shotgun has a comp-choke system and is a solid rib… is it original to the shotgun? Does it match the receiver? If not, fitment of the barrel extension to the receiver could also be an issue.
More food for thought…
Keep up the good work on your channel!
@@AmericanArmsChannel I have no idea on that. The gun was father in laws, and his dads before him. I'm not sure if the gun came that way or it was added later. That could very well be contributing to this because the whole barrels to cycle the action so adding mass to the end of the barrel may indeed result in issues like this. Good idea.
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Didn’t expect a podcast and video but I can’t complain, the more George the better
Haha, believe it or not those were recorded almost a year apart. They just so happen to release at about the same time.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide if you said there were flying pigs I’d check the regs to see if they have a season
@@bent5434 HAHA, you might at least want to google it first, I could miss it too.
I have a dozen, but you only need one shotgun, and a second for a back up gun.
I would be fine with any of my own shotguns, sxs,o/u,pump. Still, I want to keep them all. If I could keep only one, maybe my choice would be over/under, or a pump. Then I would miss sxs because it's the most beautiful.
As many as you want
Sure wish I had started out with that gun instead of an old 16 ga. Montgomery Wards single-barrel. That old gun taught me how to flinch. Which one of yours would you hunt deer with?
Sorry to ask all of these questions but I don't have too many people I can geek out on this type of stuff with lol....Why do you think we traditionally have used a 30" circle for testing patterns? Wouldn't having a rectangle of the same area as a 30" circle be more applicable to duck hunting? My thoughts are, on average, most of our misses are due to being off horizontally vs vertically. Does that make sense?
Why is it 30"? Oh that dates back before my time to how choke constriction is measured at distance. I just don't have a great reason to change it. For a circle vs a square, pattern dispersal is generally circular and shots and angles come in all shapes and sizes from left to right to diagonal to over head. A square doesn't lend itself to being as versatile.
I have had/seen a couple semi autos that would develop a “lip” on the inside of the chamber face from the bolt closing home during cycling, which would snag the shell as the extractor tried to pull it out. The most common two issues I see on gas operated shotguns is; 1) guys don’t think to take the butt stock off and clean the recoil spring and it’s housing and it rusts or gums up causing drag. 2) the shell release latch for the magazine tube gets marred up where it rides on the action bar.
I haven’t had too many issues with my recoil operated guns, but I hope you get that 16 ga figured out! I believe the answer is that every hunter needs 2 shotguns.. one for yourself and one so you can take a youth!
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Nice video bud! But one question always plagued me, why don't we hunt with shotguns having a bull pup configuration?
you can have a long barrel with a short gun, the weight is close to the body and back , ideal for off the shoulder shots , less fatigue and easier maneuverability .
When you aim by pointing, instead of a red dot or cross hairs, the length improved accuracy.
If I lost my current shotguns, I would buy a 20 gauge & 12 gauge Mossberg Maverick 88 & call it a day! Two shotguns that just plain work for under $400 total. My local Walmart still stocks/sells the Mossberg Maverick 88 12 gauge, 20 gauge, & 20 gauge youth for $197-$199 each. That's all I would really need, & anything beyond would be a want. The 500 (1961) & Maverick 88 (1988) have been around for 63 & 36 years respectively.
I agree with everything you said just don't let my wife see this video 😂😂😂
Haha
Better looking at it than looking for it😁😁😁
There ya go!
As many as I want. It’s my God given fight that I was born with.
And how many do you want?
As many as they want !!!!!!!! The way things are today , if a land owner wants to own a wroking tank , he should be able to do so !!!!
I think a turkey shotgun with a pistol grip is more comfortable to hold (because my hand is in a more vertical position) for the long periods of time I sometimes have to wait for reluctant turkey to come into range. But I don't think that setup is good for fast moving targets because it is harder to swing in a straight line.
Yea, I don't doubt it. I would have gone that route but I liked the multipurpose ability of the traditional grip.
I would love to see a pattern and penetration test with apex ninjas #8.5 shot
Me too! Just need to get my hands on a couple boxes.
Need or want!!!😂❤ 👍
Well said!
How did you decide on a 12 rather than a 20 for a dedicated turkey gun?
Because I already had 2 12 gauges with interchangeable chokes and parts, its sheer utility. I am looking at adding a 20 to the line up this year, but mostly because people keep asking for test videos with one lol.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide I was raised on a 12 gauge turkey hunting, but the advantages of a 20 were more than I realized until I started using one. Lightweight, smaller dimensions, lower recoil, and more maneuverable for example. I now own three 20s that will occasionally make their way into the field with me. TSS is cheaper in a 20 as well, and quite honestly a 12 gauge with TSS is a bit of an overkill if you look at the patterns they produce. I would highly recommend putting one in your arsenal for more than testing purposes. I’d be more than happy to offer mine up for testing as well.
Instead of sending your Sweet 16 to Browning I’d send it to Art’s Gun Shop in Missouri. They are Auto 5 specialists.
I hadn't heard of them. I may do that. But wanna save up some cash first.
When did you start hunting?
I grew up with hunters, dreaming of going hunting. I went on my first hunt when I was 4 years old for squirrels. I am almost 36.
I think I was right around 30 when I went on my first hunt.
You are the New Hunter in New Hunter’s Guide.
Do you mind to share why, how you came to hunting at an older age wo the background?
Might make a podcast.
@@Joshua-yr2fz I have a podcast by the same name with some 300 episodes, covering that and more in great depth. Also, if you go back to the first couple videos on the channel, some of it is there too.
Would one gun with several barrels be something worth investing in?
It very well could be. Provided the extra barrels didn't rival the cost of more guns. I was looking for a multi barreled 20 gauge, so I could have a 26" for duck hunting and an 18" for turkey's, but the gun I want has no such options. But some do.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide I am considering an 18/28" combo, then adding a 24" at a later date
@@NR-bm7iv Nice
I got 1, Huglu G12 semi auto in 12 gauge.. issue here is arm permits dnt cum by easily in my country.
Ouch, yea that tough.
Regarding shotgun brands, in my opinion Mossburg shotguns are underrated, and Benelli shotguns are overrated. Browning makes sturdy shotguns, but they are complex, which can create problems. As far as reliability goes, my Charles Daly triple magnum is the most reliable gun I have ever owned. It never malfunctions even when dirty.
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Would you ever get a 20 gauge?
It's on my list! Lots of people want to see lots of different things. Most of it costs money. And whatever doesn't takes time. Lots of good stuff coming.
Damn I currently own 18 shotguns 🤦♂️🤷♂️🤘😎🤣🤣🤣
Good!
You NEED 1… but how many do you want?
I guarantee that polychoke wasn't factory installed. A common thing was amateur gunsmiths would solder that to an already existing modified. The factory will cut the entire choke off before installing
It wasn't done well however it was done, that's all I know for sure. Interesting idea but didn't pan out for this gun.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide and that's a shame because I paid to have factory installation on 2 of mine and they're very functional and useful in hunting situations compared to choke tubes. Poly Choke went bankrupt somewhere around 2017
As many as I can afford 😂
Wait until you get bit by the sub-gauge bug.
That doesn't sound like a budget friendly condition lol
If your in America, you can have as many of what ever you want
It's not a video about limits, it's a conversation about priorities and budgeting.
This man talks too much but talks good.😊
That’s like asking how many shoes does a woman need
Haha
There is a word in Turkiye. Boys dont grow up, just the price of their toys incease.
1 is always less.
This question is like... how many girls... 😂
Dont blame me. Everyone thinks like that. Admit it😊
I’ll say what everybody is thinking. Benelli’s are overrated and overpriced.!
They are nice guns, but the price tag is serious. I am all for them, so long as people cover the more important bases first.
I don’t know about overrated I have an m2.
I’ve had it since they came out. It’s my beater even though it’s the most expensive semi I own. It’s been in the dirt the mud the rocks. It balances nice as an upland gun. Carry’s nice right at seven pounds. Gets put up dirty and only gets cleaned once a year in December when the weather changes.if I had to sell all my guns but got to keep one that’s the one I’d keep.