You can turn request a refund for counterfeit items now on eBay, it’s against there policy. I got a full refund on a fake fox jersey from China. Thanks for the video I was just questioning all the half price v forces on eBay.
Expert lol they are all made in China just assembled in US they use the same injection molding if you rework them for few minutes had over 100 hours on sets have personally touched over fifty sets and they perform great part numbers stamped etc etc no issues
Great stuff my man, thank you. It happen to me also, this guys are like a plague pushing their crap at the cost of other's people hard work. Hope people realise that the fake ones run badly and are not worthy even if they were giving them away. Thanks.
You have to show them both at the same time. But my bet, as a bit of a manufacturing expert myself, is that they both come from the same factory, (or another with close ties). Since we, for some dumb reason, have done business with communism since the early 80's, they have often made stuff for company's, and made extra to sell on places like E-Bay. They undercut their own customers, and sell them on a secondary market for less, and take their market share,----and we dummies call this "business? We are stupid.
Exactly. I’m in China, so I see it often. And I’m also doubting to import one, I bought tons of em here already for my random cr125/250s I’ll sell off. Worked fine.. just wondering should or should I not import one for my 2001 cr250… till now they always worked well. Even the vforce 3’s are not airtight just like real ones.. and they are 15$ here lol. No stamp etc but like you said, same product just no stamp..
Ciao ragazzi,ho acquistato un v force 3 da AliExpress per cr 250. Potrei avere problemi? Se ho capito bene dalla tradizione non sono poi così male x quanto costano... Grazie x la risposta 😊
@@cliveswabs9365 Oh yes, a big difference! Thin reeds (0.35mm) give torque at lower rpm. Thick reeds (0.45mm) give you torque at high revs. 0.4mm is the good compromise. 0.5mm is too too hard and doesn't open enough. 0.5mm is useless.
Thanks for the video. Feel free to post the sellers ebay ID. Although there's many potential fake sellers on ebay now. I use these VFORCE 4 in my RZ350's. Real ones work very well.
Buy directly from the company of one of their outlets/bike shops. Just get on the phone and order it. I never understood why people will by product on line unless it was from the manufacture or their retailers. Even drug users are wary of buying from people they don't know. lol
I have a question..i dr8ve gasgas ec250 I have vforce3 who is in bad condition.. Can i install vforce4? If vforce is in poor condition did he ireduce engine power?
@@thelifeofkrvzy5444 Failure of a composite reed is very unlikely to cause engine damage. In most cases, it will simply mean the motor will not start as there will be no crankcase compression. I wonder did you feel the Chinese block at less than 20 dollars was going to be the same quality as genuine one, at a much higher price?
@@aaronlfcynwa2951 I very much doubt that. The blocks themselves seem good quality, so why not just fit alternative petals? Even with replacement petals less than 1/4 of the price of genuine!
@@aaronlfcynwa2951 nah ur dump i used fake ones before i got the real ones and the real ones are not much better and the fake ones didint damage it at all after 6months of using
Still buying from china 😎 its a plastic shape with some flaps, its not rockets science, im not paying a 12x multiple on price for "real ones". I love china 🤣 bringing competition to the greed of manufacturers.
I paid £11.00 off e bay and the name tag is exactly as u show on the genuine ones .i put them in my Suzuki RG 80cc 2t classic and it runs a hell of a lot better than with the stainless steel reeds ..plus now theres no risk of the reeds snapping off and causing havoc
7.95 for the fake ones off Aliexpress, thats a win
thanks for making this video.. its a warning to us yamaha owners and other dirtbike owners. more power to your vlog.
yo this video is dope thanks for taking time to make it. It helped me out a lot.
Happy I can help👍🏾
Good shit help the world..... I got scam with fake piggy back shock lol
That makes two of us lmao
I was looking to buying some and this actually helped not going to lie thank man🤙
You can turn request a refund for counterfeit items now on eBay, it’s against there policy. I got a full refund on a fake fox jersey from China. Thanks for the video I was just questioning all the half price v forces on eBay.
Expert lol they are all made in China just assembled in US they use the same injection molding if you rework them for few minutes had over 100 hours on sets have personally touched over fifty sets and they perform great part numbers stamped etc etc no issues
Now lets see a comparison in the bike
I was thinking that I will post a video soon
That is what i am thinking are the fake onces that bad. I mean there is a huge difference in price. So the fake set are still an option
Great stuff my man, thank you. It happen to me also, this guys are like a plague pushing their crap at the cost of other's people hard work. Hope people realise that the fake ones run badly and are not worthy even if they were giving them away. Thanks.
Thank you for that mate !! We need more people to expose the fake Chinese knock offs out there !!
You have to show them both at the same time. But my bet, as a bit of a manufacturing expert myself, is that they both come from the same factory, (or another with close ties). Since we, for some dumb reason, have done business with communism since the early 80's, they have often made stuff for company's, and made extra to sell on places like E-Bay. They undercut their own customers, and sell them on a secondary market for less, and take their market share,----and we dummies call this "business?
We are stupid.
Exactly. I’m in China, so I see it often. And I’m also doubting to import one, I bought tons of em here already for my random cr125/250s I’ll sell off. Worked fine.. just wondering should or should I not import one for my 2001 cr250… till now they always worked well. Even the vforce 3’s are not airtight just like real ones.. and they are 15$ here lol. No stamp etc but like you said, same product just no stamp..
Ciao ragazzi,ho acquistato un v force 3 da AliExpress per cr 250. Potrei avere problemi? Se ho capito bene dalla tradizione non sono poi così male x quanto costano... Grazie x la risposta 😊
We laughing at them ashy fingers lol....
I got scammed too. I’m so pissed off right now I’m not really sure what to do.
Post it on banshee hq
Appreciate your help
Do they work though 🤔
Hai provato sulla tua a moto?
The carbon-feber-reed thickness of the genuine V-Force is 0.4mm the fake is 0.5mm.
Does it make a difference?
@@cliveswabs9365 Oh yes, a big difference! Thin reeds (0.35mm) give torque at lower rpm. Thick reeds (0.45mm) give you torque at high revs. 0.4mm is the good compromise. 0.5mm is too too hard and doesn't open enough. 0.5mm is useless.
Thanks for the heads up 👍🏽
thank you for u share this info .
It feels, it looks like... it seems....
I just ordered a set i hope they legit
Thanks for the video. Feel free to post the sellers ebay ID. Although there's many potential fake sellers on ebay now. I use these VFORCE 4 in my RZ350's. Real ones work very well.
Thank!!!Good tips&Video
Thanks bro this was very helpful
Both are plastics! only pedals maybe work better the original ones ,i have kx 1993 125 it works fine ! also tbh got some power on lowe rpms
Thanks banshee brother
But did they work tho???
I didn’t even try but everybody who use them said they break and jam in side of the piston
I tried them they didn't work with there petals, but wen I used real petals in the cages it worked
@@thelifeofkrvzy5444 People talk shit because they paid the 12x multiple on "real ones". Real ones come from china too
Did they look real in the pics?
Thank u for the Knowledge
Was from some weird seller from China
Thanks for the video brother. I'm just going to order straight Moto Tassinari 👍
Glad I could be at your service💯💯💯
Right on!
Not silly man thanks for your information
thanks man!
hi please tag a link where to buy authentic vforce reeds aside from their website
Moto Tassinari V-Force 4 Reed Valve Yamaha ATV - V4144-2 a.co/d/iWN46jg
Was gonna buy a one for my blaster for 40$
I got scammed too
Thanks
Buy directly from the company of one of their outlets/bike shops. Just get on the phone and order it. I never understood why people will by product on line unless it was from the manufacture or their retailers. Even drug users are wary of buying from people they don't know. lol
Is there a contact for genuine v-force 4 (v4R13G)
Good video!👍 Thanks.......
I have a question..i dr8ve gasgas ec250 I have vforce3 who is in bad condition.. Can i install vforce4?
If vforce is in poor condition did he ireduce engine power?
Yes it reduces power by a lot you can just change the paddles instead of changing the whole set up
@@thelifeofkrvzy5444 can i install vforce4.. Did i get more power?
@@C0RDDD It doesn’t give you more power but it gives you Clean throttle response
@@thelifeofkrvzy5444 petals lol.
You can change the carbon fiber petals it's 4 per Reed cage .. or you can upgrade to the 4s
whats the part number for the oem ones please anyone
V4144-2 .. for the Yamaha Banshee
Pedal thickness is diffrent also..real vforce are never 20 to 60 bucks...
I bought fake v force but for 20$ not 150 ;o
Are they any good I was thinking about getting the fake ones?
@@jordanrivera4244 Looks Good, but didnt use it yet
@@MrGrzeja hmm okay keep me updated because I also got them for 20$😂
@@jordanrivera4244 You used it already?
@@MrGrzeja nah I’m waiting for it to come in you😂
Why not fit them to your bike and check out how they work, before claiming they dont?
How about I send them to you and you put them on your bike and you can blow your motor instead of me blowing up my brand new rebuilt motor?
@@thelifeofkrvzy5444 Failure of a composite reed is very unlikely to cause engine damage. In most cases, it will simply mean the motor will not start as there will be no crankcase compression.
I wonder did you feel the Chinese block at less than 20 dollars was going to be the same quality as genuine one, at a much higher price?
@@battlebbot nah it will definitely damage the engine block and piston...that vforce bits will go inside the block and mess things up
@@aaronlfcynwa2951 I very much doubt that. The blocks themselves seem good quality, so why not just fit alternative petals? Even with replacement petals less than 1/4 of the price of genuine!
@@aaronlfcynwa2951 nah ur dump i used fake ones before i got the real ones and the real ones are not much better and the fake ones didint damage it at all after 6months of using
Still buying from china 😎 its a plastic shape with some flaps, its not rockets science, im not paying a 12x multiple on price for "real ones".
I love china 🤣 bringing competition to the greed of manufacturers.
Yes i got the fake one,,
Ciao hai per caso provato a vedere come va?
Nothing different!
Yes there is 🤦🏻
I paid £11.00 off e bay and the name tag is exactly as u show on the genuine ones .i put them in my Suzuki RG 80cc 2t classic and it runs a hell of a lot better than with the stainless steel reeds ..plus now theres no risk of the reeds snapping off and causing havoc