When you fight a Polynesian who has anywhere near your fighting experience, you're likely in trouble. "All the Samoan kids got picked on at my school"- said no one ever.
@@drakkarlogan9070 bro he would be a fucking skeleton at 205, he's a natural HW, maybe if the UFC added a cruiserweight class he could make it, like 225lbs or so, but 205, hell no lol.
I mean I do not know the details, I wasnt there nor do I condone the action. But come on man coaches are looked at as Father figures, role models and mentors. What you call grooming is coaching. Have you ever been in a fight gym? The comaraderie , and close social group. Women look for strong men and Rose probably started to catch feelings, just like you did for your school teacher or older camp counselor. Obviosuly you need to be of legal age so who knows but there us a lot of talk online that looks like a smear campaign for sure.
@@sugabender2119 At that time Soa fought him he wasnt that good or regarded highly. It was 2013 when Krylov was only 21 and making his UFC debut. So a 21 yr old Krylov was the only UFC opponent he faced then when he fought Barry which is weak competition and why Soa was a betting underdog to Barry despite a win streak.
I remember reading an article on Pat Berry in Kung Fu Tai Chi Magazine. It was about pat bringing Sanda/ San Shou style fighting into MMA, that was almost 15 years ago. For those who don't know Sanda is the basics used in almost all styles of Kung fu (various kicks punches, sweeps, throws) basicly its Chinese kickboxing with Shuai jiao (traditional Chinese grappling/wrestling). So it's half way between MMA and Kick boxing, the striking in Sanda and the throws are on average better than what you find in Kivkbocing and the throws are more utilized and better than what you typically find in MMA. A great example of a Sanda fighter who went to MMA was Cung Le. He was a champ many times over in Sanda/ San shou and did everything he could in the sport and decided to go to MMA and dominated. At the time Frank Shamrock was pretty much recognized as the best in the world in his division and he was the champ in Strike Force and Cung le was tearing up the competition and finally beat Shamrock at his peak for the title and broke his arms with devastation kicks. Anyways sorry for the lesson on all that, my overall point was that I always found pat berry as a neat person in MMA ever since then, I remember watching him on TV also maybe a couple weeks before I read that article so I never forgot about him. Also made it very interesting to see Rose Namajunas's style and to know they are a couple and to see the Chinese influence in her style when it comes to kicks and striking
Come on, man. The sanda stuff was really interesting and all, but #1 traditional chinese martial arts aren't nearly as practical as the stuff mma guys train with like wrestling, so they didn't have better throws or strikes than the mma guys had and #2 Cung Le was never even in the top 7 middleweights, much less "dominated" the weight class. Frank Shamrock was seen as the best fighter at his weight by far in 2008? Did you forget about the fact that Prime Anderson Silva, Nate Marquardt, Vitor Belfort, Gegard Mousasi, and others existed outside of the strikeforce bubble? Cung Le would've been fortunate to have made it to a 3rd round against any of those guys, nevermind beat any of them. He went 2-2 in the UFC and was ko'd in both losses --- one being in a war with a completely shot Wanderlei Silva.
@@williamsmith1803 Chung didn’t transition to mma until his 40s and was kinda chubby, cardio was shit. In his prime in San Shou, the shoulder tosses, trips and leg sweeps were legit for mma. Definitely not a weak martial art for mma, between the kickboxing and sweeps it is pretty viable. The thing is though that good modern wrestlers can just dominate anyone in mma. See GSP or Kamaru Usman for examples
@@yersongonzales4842 Cormier is an Olympic level wrestler his height is perfect for his fighting style. That why he was the champ in every promotion he fought for. Barry however is a short kick boxer he is at a huge disadvantage since he always has to cover more distance to reach his opponent 🤦♂️
Him and Bigfoot were both night and day, before and after USADA. There wasn't/isn't a whole lot regular heavyweight mma fighters --- who are like 6'1-6'3 and a flabby 240-250 lbs --- could/can do against someone who's 6'4-6'5 and a solid 270-280 lbs. Once they got on top of someone, it was like "what the fuck is any human being supposed to be able to do in this position?". Even Fedor couldn't get out from under Bigfoot. It shows how much of a difference PEDs make. After USADA, they both just became more of the same fat, slow heavyweights we have now. Some really hardcore "just bleed" fans want there to be a division where fighters are allowed to use whatever they want, just for the sake of having fighters like them and Brock back on the scene, but that's about as likely to come to fruition as bringing back the Extreme era rule set (no biting, no oraphis/eye manipulation, no small joint manipulation, and no attacking the groin).
I always wanted to see Barry as a LHW. He was a damn good HW and coulda been HW champion IMO but the lack of ground game and being undersized don’t go together very well.
@@TroublePsych very exciting fighter to watch but he was stopped on the feet by fighters without the striking credentials he had stopped on the ground everytime the fight went there C level at best is fair and correct
Did he just try backhand from the bottom of mount🤦🏽♂️Barry shud be lightheavy weight ...underrated fighter got unlucky in the ufc..Good stand up but zero everything else lol
He literally attempted a kimura, Palalei had a easy 20-30 pounds on him, is a bjj black belt & has an amateur wrestling pedigree. Not that easy for a guy who was primarily a kickboxer, to escape being mounted.
When you fight a Polynesian who has anywhere near your fighting experience, you're likely in trouble. "All the Samoan kids got picked on at my school"- said no one ever.
Sounds a little too nazi like with a superior attitude to me. Are you a Polynesian supremacist? Sound like one..
@@Константин-д6щ Snowflake, what did the Polynesians do to you?
well I know a lot of them getting picked one...dont act they are something special clown
He's tongan
Yeah not really. Most polynesians suck
Barry would've done much better at lhw or middleweight. No reason to give up that much size to almost every opponent.
Dude was jacked at 240, he's not getting to 205.
@@lionezrsik Lol wtf? The fact that he was jacked at 240 is proof that he could've went down in weight.
@@drakkarlogan9070 bro he would be a fucking skeleton at 205, he's a natural HW, maybe if the UFC added a cruiserweight class he could make it, like 225lbs or so, but 205, hell no lol.
205 would’ve been good for him. Lots of the LHW fighters weigh 230 on fight night.
@@drakkarlogan9070 Why would he go down in weight if he was all muscle at 240? That's stupid as hell.
Barry is basically CTE on legs.
Giving up that much size is just risky af.
this is a good representation of how Pat berry used his size to groom Rose lol
I mean I do not know the details, I wasnt there nor do I condone the action. But come on man coaches are looked at as Father figures, role models and mentors. What you call grooming is coaching. Have you ever been in a fight gym? The comaraderie , and close social group. Women look for strong men and Rose probably started to catch feelings, just like you did for your school teacher or older camp counselor. Obviosuly you need to be of legal age so who knows but there us a lot of talk online that looks like a smear campaign for sure.
Are you defending pat grooming rose since she was 13 you sick fuck?
Lol, how tf was Soa the underdog here against a Barry with 6 finishes losses in the UFC?? Soa was on a 9 KO victories in a row. 😂🤦🏻♂️
Because Soa had only faced low level guys
@@alessandroscuderi7300 Nikita Krylov is not low level buddy
@@sugabender2119 At that time Soa fought him he wasnt that good or regarded highly. It was 2013 when Krylov was only 21 and making his UFC debut. So a 21 yr old Krylov was the only UFC opponent he faced then when he fought Barry which is weak competition and why Soa was a betting underdog to Barry despite a win streak.
The huge weight difference
I've stood next to Soa before, he is a massively big guy
I remember reading an article on Pat Berry in Kung Fu Tai Chi Magazine. It was about pat bringing Sanda/ San Shou style fighting into MMA, that was almost 15 years ago. For those who don't know Sanda is the basics used in almost all styles of Kung fu (various kicks punches, sweeps, throws) basicly its Chinese kickboxing with Shuai jiao (traditional Chinese grappling/wrestling). So it's half way between MMA and Kick boxing, the striking in Sanda and the throws are on average better than what you find in Kivkbocing and the throws are more utilized and better than what you typically find in MMA. A great example of a Sanda fighter who went to MMA was Cung Le. He was a champ many times over in Sanda/ San shou and did everything he could in the sport and decided to go to MMA and dominated. At the time Frank Shamrock was pretty much recognized as the best in the world in his division and he was the champ in Strike Force and Cung le was tearing up the competition and finally beat Shamrock at his peak for the title and broke his arms with devastation kicks. Anyways sorry for the lesson on all that, my overall point was that I always found pat berry as a neat person in MMA ever since then, I remember watching him on TV also maybe a couple weeks before I read that article so I never forgot about him. Also made it very interesting to see Rose Namajunas's style and to know they are a couple and to see the Chinese influence in her style when it comes to kicks and striking
Come on, man. The sanda stuff was really interesting and all, but #1 traditional chinese martial arts aren't nearly as practical as the stuff mma guys train with like wrestling, so they didn't have better throws or strikes than the mma guys had and #2 Cung Le was never even in the top 7 middleweights, much less "dominated" the weight class. Frank Shamrock was seen as the best fighter at his weight by far in 2008? Did you forget about the fact that Prime Anderson Silva, Nate Marquardt, Vitor Belfort, Gegard Mousasi, and others existed outside of the strikeforce bubble? Cung Le would've been fortunate to have made it to a 3rd round against any of those guys, nevermind beat any of them. He went 2-2 in the UFC and was ko'd in both losses --- one being in a war with a completely shot Wanderlei Silva.
@@williamsmith1803 Chung didn’t transition to mma until his 40s and was kinda chubby, cardio was shit. In his prime in San Shou, the shoulder tosses, trips and leg sweeps were legit for mma. Definitely not a weak martial art for mma, between the kickboxing and sweeps it is pretty viable. The thing is though that good modern wrestlers can just dominate anyone in mma. See GSP or Kamaru Usman for examples
You wrote a whole novel on nothing...
I also love to glorify groomer’s….it’s not weird
Kung Fu sucks
Pat was small for heavy weight
Daniel cormier: what?
@@yersongonzales4842 Cormier is an Olympic level wrestler his height is perfect for his fighting style. That why he was the champ in every promotion he fought for. Barry however is a short kick boxer he is at a huge disadvantage since he always has to cover more distance to reach his opponent 🤦♂️
@@Nile15rush_fj Mark Hunt...
So was randy couture what's your point?
He was 240 pounds, how is that small?
Pat "SD" Barry
Barry's last UFC fight.
Yes he better stays out of the ufc. It's to big for him.
Pat was a good kickboxer but fighting a giant that has to cut weight for heavyweight was to big a ask
Yes 8-7 in mma.
YAHAWAH Reuben he always had a glass chin
Going back over soas career, man's a beast and only lost to the best.
How do you explain Bigfoot
@@brianb7423 you mean the guy who's beat fedor and overeem ? Nuf said
@@what241354646 Lol I guess. But when he fought Soa that’s when he was on his downfall. Basically after the overseen fight
@@brianb7423 tbh soa was on the downfall aswell, he started his ufc career very late
Him and Bigfoot were both night and day, before and after USADA. There wasn't/isn't a whole lot regular heavyweight mma fighters --- who are like 6'1-6'3 and a flabby 240-250 lbs --- could/can do against someone who's 6'4-6'5 and a solid 270-280 lbs. Once they got on top of someone, it was like "what the fuck is any human being supposed to be able to do in this position?". Even Fedor couldn't get out from under Bigfoot. It shows how much of a difference PEDs make. After USADA, they both just became more of the same fat, slow heavyweights we have now. Some really hardcore "just bleed" fans want there to be a division where fighters are allowed to use whatever they want, just for the sake of having fighters like them and Brock back on the scene, but that's about as likely to come to fruition as bringing back the Extreme era rule set (no biting, no oraphis/eye manipulation, no small joint manipulation, and no attacking the groin).
Taller and heavier, I was expecting that
Man if you’re pat could have just fought at lhw he would have been great
was there live Barry faceplanted the ground so hard like Kenny describes from full standing
I always wanted to see Barry as a LHW. He was a damn good HW and coulda been HW champion IMO but the lack of ground game and being undersized don’t go together very well.
You think Pat Barry had the arsenal to be champion at HW in the UFC ?
@@DH.91 yeah pat barry was C level at best. Love watching him fight though.
@@TroublePsych very exciting fighter to watch but he was stopped on the feet by fighters without the striking credentials he had stopped on the ground everytime the fight went there C level at best is fair and correct
Soa too skrong 🥥🌴
What ever happened to soa?
He retired after losing to Bigfoot Silva a few years ago
He’s a motivational speaker for mental health, I saw him speak yesterday. He has a very interesting story..
@@fererazo8887 Jared Rosholt also whopped him.. 😆
If Barry had good wrestling he would have been UFC champ no doubt about it .
Pat Barry was never going to beat a prime Cain or JDS
😂😂
That’s just silly
Pat Barry beats Lesnar Randy couture and fabrcio Werdum
Did he just try backhand from the bottom of mount🤦🏽♂️Barry shud be lightheavy weight ...underrated fighter got unlucky in the ufc..Good stand up but zero everything else lol
Stupid nigga
Well he just tried a kimura...so maybe not..zero
4:30
It’s fun watching weirdos get slept
How to catch a predator 🤣
Pat"the predator" Barry
the pred at it!!!!
Im pretty sure Soa pounded him into oblivion because he didnt know how to do any submissions lol
He literally attempted a kimura, Palalei had a easy 20-30 pounds on him, is a bjj black belt & has an amateur wrestling pedigree. Not that easy for a guy who was primarily a kickboxer, to escape being mounted.
Dude is huge. Much different if HD would have not been taken down. 3 leg kicks and $$
Pat gave up
He massacred him.
Ouch
Idk why ppl don't get into half guard and exit through the back door. I've done it against huge guys with lots of success.
Depends. Who ever has the under hook wins the battle of control.
Typical islander never fights a bigger opponent.
Theres usually not many
Are you kidding mark hunt mostly fought people bigger than him
Lol Max Holloway says hi you fucking noob
He fought Bob Sapp.
Hater
Barry shrunk.. clown is off the roids
😂😂😂 well done for his face !!! Humiliated ! 😆😆😆
That’s not really what it’s about
@@spoonbillyerd yes, but excepted your respect, i don't care. Well done i don't like proud people !
no chin
Barry is a cho mo
Early stoppage
Lmao he was out cold then face planted trying to stand up
you are mario yamasaki's brother?
Fuck you
He was out.
Yeah, right before brain damage.
Dtg sini sbb tmj@jdt 🙋🏼♂️