Great speakers ! The very best speakers I've ever heard are the new Final Audio Model 15 Electrostatic Loudspeakers with two REL Subs 😇Heaven on Earth 🙂
I applaud them. With $3 in materials and a few cents of slave labor, Nike Air Jordans aren't worth what they're asking either... Exotic materials science, vapor deposition, the finest precision CNC machining, decades of R&D ... it's essentially Formula 1 cutting edge tech in a loudspeaker... I applaud them, I too would charge as much as anyone would pay. Successful playback of a realistic recreation of a sonic event in a listening room is a daunting endeavor. Get the finest loudspeakers possible, and optimize your room ... those two elements a far and away the most important components. Then work on the signal chain. I'd agree and say they're ridiculous, but it's a ridiculous task.
How much are they worth then? I once heard a pair of Infinity RSV's in a private home - retail back in the late 80's was £45K- and they were worth every single penny - if I had the money I would not hesitate here either - you never regret paying for the best whatever the price - it is the best!!! - I am a photogpraher - I have to my hands around 250K of digital cameras - my Phase One retails for around £60k - people often say - but it's just a camera - yes but it's the best camera.
Some yrs back i talked to somebody who used to sell hi end hifi stuff & he told me the markup for such hi end stuff is crazy….easily 20 to 30 times more. Same goes for most luxury items.
There are mor than 3.000 billionaires in the world. But you need a pretty large room for the M9, no matter how much money you have. A proper listening room would cost a couple of million in land and construction costs.
I would have thought wood was the best material for speakers not aluminium. I think they would have to use lots of damping material when using aluminium to stop it sounding tinny.
@@danieljones8587 Probably he has the M7 at home. The main reason is the size of the speaker system vs the size of the listening room. M9 requires (and is designed for) a large room, not to mention that they weigh 1,000 lbs each (454 kg), not including the external active crossover which weigh 60 lbs each. The size of the M9 is 80"H x 40"D x 20"W.
Spør google, og svaret er: Pivetta Opera Only: 22 millioner kroner. Det er aldri noe problem å finne noe ... dyrt noe. Forsterkeren ytern 120 kW så du trenger nok .. litt suppe for å drive dritet.
I think Alon wasn't fully breaking down the rationale on the speaker cost. It's not just the BOM. Engineering isn't free. Good engineering cost real money. That ends up in the speaker price too.
Oswald Mills makes subs , back-loaded horns which go down to 20Hz.... so Alon is not fully right here. But they have 21 inch, paper drivers. Same with Living Voice from UK. THe thing is , such huge woofers must have PAPER cones. and Alon has strong dislike for Paper cones, as he sells hi tech graphene cones with cabinets for Space Rockets/submarines. Just kiddin. or maybe not
Alon Wolf are talking about a full frontloaded horn system and that will not be possible without some very large basshorns. OMA have back-loaded horns that brings problem in timedomain and other areas.
@@Stereopluss Well, if backloaded horn is used under 40 or 60Hz only, its not THAT much of an issue. Even Aries Cerat had such models, but their new Aurora is now open baffle bass. So I still think he has issues with paper cones ;) anyway, great channel!
Such a musical language, norwegian ;). You better focus on your Norge Oil Fund which put $350 billion in gov bonds which go down down dooown! Also in german Vonovia- horrible losses!
Never ever....No Speaker is worth this price! Only if they are so powerful to push a atomic bomb burst back.....The Power of a Nuke inside this Speaker ...🤣🤣🤣
BOM is bill of materials and is a manufacturing term, which not just the cost of the "material" but the cost of the manufacturing and assembly of the parts used in an end product, and a big part of that is labor cost.
@@Mark-rw3kw I would imagine that most of it is labor cost, cost of specialty equipment, etc. The actual magnets, carbon fiber, and aluminum are negligible compared to everything else.
@@igottheshaft Yes, plus there is R&D costs, costs of the manufacturing building, utilities, insurance, accounting , legal fees, taxes, and many other costs of running a business that are not directly included in the COGS (cost of goods sold). Companies need to make a profit to pay back their original investors or to pay back bank loans used to get the business started. Companies like Magico have a lot of computer controlled CNC machines that are worth millions in total. There are several videos you can find where tours of the Magico facility are shown.
I disagree with the man in this video, saying that it’s a sacrifice to use wood for the cabinet of a speaker I think that’s totally ridiculous and they need to learn how to make more affordable products. Yeah, your speakers will sell at that price, but you really won’t become a household name Let alone expand. To be honest as well I think wood is a really good chamber good material actually great material for speakers with a speaker can’t get past is the fact that a human vocal chamber does deal with residence does have a level of local shifts if you will, there is no cabinet that will adapt in real time to that level, and I really would have to be such a thing in order for the sound more realistic.
There is absolutely no shortage of cheaper speakers out there. For them to build with wood would just devalue their high end models. Should Ferrari compete with the Honda Civic to? Does that make any sense?
There are two different philosophies when it comes to building speakers. One is add some warmth like the baffle on a guitar, and the other is to add nothing to the recorded sound, assuming that the warmth of the original guitar is already in the recording. Obviously, Magico assumes the later philosophy.
This interview is a wealth of knowledge.
Thanks for posting.
Such a cool man. I learned a lot from different kind of TH-cam interviews.
Excellent, enjoyable interview. Thank you!
Terrific interview with someone with a great passion for hifi.
I used to work along side Alon at EA. He is a great guy.
Great interview Great talent The classical guitar interlude my favorite part was a great way to reveal one of his life’s driven passions !!!
Thank you 😊
Great speakers !
The very best speakers I've ever heard are the new Final Audio Model 15 Electrostatic Loudspeakers with two REL Subs 😇Heaven on Earth 🙂
How much was his guitar worth?
No speaker is worth that kind of money…..
I applaud them.
With $3 in materials and a few cents of slave labor, Nike Air Jordans aren't worth what they're asking either...
Exotic materials science, vapor deposition, the finest precision CNC machining, decades of R&D ... it's essentially Formula 1 cutting edge tech in a loudspeaker...
I applaud them, I too would charge as much as anyone would pay.
Successful playback of a realistic recreation of a sonic event in a listening room is a daunting endeavor.
Get the finest loudspeakers possible, and optimize your room ... those two elements a far and away the most important components.
Then work on the signal chain.
I'd agree and say they're ridiculous, but it's a ridiculous task.
How much are they worth then? I once heard a pair of Infinity RSV's in a private home - retail back in the late 80's was £45K- and they were worth every single penny - if I had the money I would not hesitate here either - you never regret paying for the best whatever the price - it is the best!!! - I am a photogpraher - I have to my hands around 250K of digital cameras - my Phase One retails for around £60k - people often say - but it's just a camera - yes but it's the best camera.
@@nelsonclub7722
They're worth whatever someone's willing to pay.
I agree with your other points as well.
@@FOH3663 100%
Some yrs back i talked to somebody who used to sell hi end hifi stuff & he told me the markup for such hi end stuff is crazy….easily 20 to 30 times more. Same goes for most luxury items.
For the many multimillionaire audiophiles out there.
There are mor than 3.000 billionaires in the world. But you need a pretty large room for the M9, no matter how much money you have. A proper listening room would cost a couple of million in land and construction costs.
Why not hire a speaker designer and have them build a speaker for you... Custom
I would have thought wood was the best material for speakers not aluminium. I think they would have to use lots of damping material when using aluminium to stop it sounding tinny.
What speakers does he have at home would be interesting to know.
Bose? 😂
@@danieljones8587 Probably he has the M7 at home. The main reason is the size of the speaker system vs the size of the listening room. M9 requires (and is designed for) a large room, not to mention that they weigh 1,000 lbs each (454 kg), not including the external active crossover which weigh 60 lbs each. The size of the M9 is 80"H x 40"D x 20"W.
Do you get a free house with that 750,000 no vat speaker?
That was fun.
lurer på hva forsterkersett og avspiller som er passende til høyttalere til 9mill, hva er ekvivalenten
A 1990 Technics Mosfet ?!
Spør google, og svaret er: Pivetta Opera Only: 22 millioner kroner. Det er aldri noe problem å finne noe ... dyrt noe. Forsterkeren ytern 120 kW så du trenger nok .. litt suppe for å drive dritet.
I think Alon wasn't fully breaking down the rationale on the speaker cost. It's not just the BOM. Engineering isn't free. Good engineering cost real money. That ends up in the speaker price too.
Magico is too expensive in Europe and it's not just the VAT.
Oswald Mills makes subs , back-loaded horns which go down to 20Hz.... so Alon is not fully right here. But they have 21 inch, paper drivers. Same with Living Voice from UK. THe thing is , such huge woofers must have PAPER cones. and Alon has strong dislike for Paper cones, as he sells hi tech graphene cones with cabinets for Space Rockets/submarines. Just kiddin. or maybe not
Alon Wolf are talking about a full frontloaded horn system and that will not be possible without some very large basshorns. OMA have back-loaded horns that brings problem in timedomain and other areas.
@@Stereopluss Well, if backloaded horn is used under 40 or 60Hz only, its not THAT much of an issue. Even Aries Cerat had such models, but their new Aurora is now open baffle bass. So I still think he has issues with paper cones ;) anyway, great channel!
Then it must be good.
IF ONLY....
M 9 en forkortelse på 9 millioner!😂
Such a musical language, norwegian ;). You better focus on your Norge Oil Fund which put $350 billion in gov bonds which go down down dooown! Also in german Vonovia- horrible losses!
Never ever....No Speaker is worth this price! Only if they are so powerful to push a atomic bomb burst back.....The Power of a Nuke inside this Speaker ...🤣🤣🤣
This is not the worlds most expensive speaker.
Lol, so based on the "Building Of Materials" I imagine a bugatti chiron must be worth 15 million usd??? What a audioshit Joke!! hahahaha.....
BOM is bill of materials and is a manufacturing term, which not just the cost of the "material" but the cost of the manufacturing and assembly of the parts used in an end product, and a big part of that is labor cost.
@@Mark-rw3kw I would imagine that most of it is labor cost, cost of specialty equipment, etc. The actual magnets, carbon fiber, and aluminum are negligible compared to everything else.
@@igottheshaft Yes, plus there is R&D costs, costs of the manufacturing building, utilities, insurance, accounting , legal fees, taxes, and many other costs of running a business that are not directly included in the COGS (cost of goods sold). Companies need to make a profit to pay back their original investors or to pay back bank loans used to get the business started. Companies like Magico have a lot of computer controlled CNC machines that are worth millions in total. There are several videos you can find where tours of the Magico facility are shown.
I disagree with the man in this video, saying that it’s a sacrifice to use wood for the cabinet of a speaker I think that’s totally ridiculous and they need to learn how to make more affordable products. Yeah, your speakers will sell at that price, but you really won’t become a household name Let alone expand. To be honest as well I think wood is a really good chamber good material actually great material for speakers with a speaker can’t get past is the fact that a human vocal chamber does deal with residence does have a level of local shifts if you will, there is no cabinet that will adapt in real time to that level, and I really would have to be such a thing in order for the sound more realistic.
There is absolutely no shortage of cheaper speakers out there. For them to build with wood would just devalue their high end models. Should Ferrari compete with the Honda Civic to? Does that make any sense?
There are two different philosophies when it comes to building speakers. One is add some warmth like the baffle on a guitar, and the other is to add nothing to the recorded sound, assuming that the warmth of the original guitar is already in the recording. Obviously, Magico assumes the later philosophy.
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