The Hyperloop May Disrupt More Than Just Travel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2021
- Elon Musk coined the term Hyperloop back in 2013 when he released his vision for a fifth mode of transport. Since then, engineers around the world have been working to make his idea a reality sooner than you might think. Virgin Hyperloop has successfully tested the technology with human passengers and in Europe, Hardt Hyperloop is working on the technology and international coalition building needed to create entire Hyperloop networks. On this episode of Accelerate, we’ll look at how one Hyperloop track could take passengers from San Francisco to Los Angeles in a half hour, and how Hyperloop networks could redefine the economies of entire continents.
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What two cities would you want to see a Hyperloop connect?
Two actual cities, not rendered imaginary ones)
None
London and Cloud Cuckoo Land
Pyongyang and Washington DC
@@Derty_the_grower Dude, stop complaining so much, your comments hasn’t been blocked. I’ve seen your earlier ones.
Meanwhile Japan has had bullet trains that run to a schedule within seconds of predicted arrival for decades.
Japan is tiny compared to the states.
@@RavenThePlayer Bullet trains run from the southern end of Hokkaido to the southernmost end of Japan. That length is about the length from seattle to LA
@@ArtaxForever The federal government cant just favor one stretch of states
@@RavenThePlayer iirc Japan almost as big as the entire east coast of the United States
@@William_CD and it has the added benefit of a myriad of practical implementation problems, none of which have been demonstrated to be solvable in the last 8 years. but yeah, let's keep the hype train going. elon did it, so it's obviously genius.
A 19min video on TH-cam with no ad breaks? I get the feeling this whole video is an sales pitch.
have you not heard of adblock sir, havent seen an ad in years
Yea they want more funding for their scam of a project
@@barneystinson2781 Exactly...
Bingo
Ads? What's that? I did'nt see ads in years.
Love how Musk's Vegas Loop went from being some futuristic cool looking video dream to simply Tesla cars slowly moving through a tunnel. The technology is not there and will not be for at least 50 years. Money spent on regular rail is much more economical and efficient.
Theyre making machines to make the tunnel. Everything else is secondary. Litterally don't think about anything else. Teslas going through their tunnels is not their product.
Las Vegas couldn't afford to build a rail-based subway or the people movers in Tesla's video. That's why Las Vegas got what they got.
I think it works: he is getting more money from it
The thing that has stood in the way of evacuated very high speed trains has always been tunneling technology. You don't need tunneling if the land is very flat, but that does not describe many places. To really get long straight runs, you need tunnels. When we get rapid tunneling technology, near jogging speeds, these things can be everywhere.
The reality is, though, that automated eVTOL is going to reduce the need for this, except for longer distances.
@@toddr.lockwood843Las Vegas can't afford...?!
With this video, I can finally see why some people were swept away with optimism. The CGI is still impressive and the spokespeople seem earnest & optimistic. Bug it's an empty promise when you look into the details.
It works so well on a CGI enviroment.
Maya and Blendor supports your message lol
yes. Never in real life
I'll be honest here PlayStation 2 have better graphics
This could be 2021 if renderings where real
but we all saw the test one in Nevada, its not that much off right?
There is a reporter out there waiting to use the headline "Is the Hyperloop just Hype?"
Do you mean "the Hyperloop is just hype?"
It’s already been done.
"...or is it a pipe dream?"
🥁 💥
There's a number of channels that have already crushed it.
The idea of America going from the DC Streetcar to the Hyperloop in the same decade, without a massive overhaul of how infrastructure projects are delivered, seems a bit fantastical to me
I was in ceasers palace las vegas as a child in the late 60's,and they had a "people mover" inclined conveyor to transport you into the casino floor from the street entrance.And it was quite a distance to just walk.They had a model set up showing how people would be transported through tubes in the future.Does anyone else remember this from maybe 1968-1973?
Moving sidewalk you mean? Those were gimmicks from the french and became normal in airports.
So you actually saw the hype train lol
China has built 30000km of high speed rail since Elon Musk started the hyperloop craze, and no hyperloop or high speed rail has been finished in USA in this time period
Duh Chinas Government can do what they want. In the US u have to deal with every individual State, City and Population. They did a solid job, yes. but dont kid youself.
@@rapazinreaperzin4436 kid who? China didn't have this 20 years ago. The whole country is connected. That in itself is the greatest infrastructure progress in modern history.
@@rapazinreaperzin4436 yeah, i guess too much freedom have a draw back.....
@@zee9709 Europe has them too and ultimately only being able to drive places has been pretty restrictive.
@@rapazinreaperzin4436 The hyperloop is vaperware meant to bring Elon Musk more publicity, nothing more. High speed rail is real.
Does anyone notice that the total capacity of the hyperloop is a fraction of the train? the speed of it can beneficial but you can literally break a whole section of the line with a single bullet and everything blows up by a decompression. And it inherent cost of construction and maintenance
I doubt that any engineer would be ok with constructing any vehicle from a material that is brittle enough to be destroyed in that way by a bullet. Much like a bullet hitting a plane the damage would consist of a single hole that could be plugged with a finger, something that should be repaired when the vehicle stops but pretty far from the complete destruction of a section.
a "self healing" solution can be integrated into the structure to counter the damage of a bullet like scenario
You put pressure relief valves along the length of the tube in case of any decompression event. Why you guys don't get the concept is beyond me.
@@crocodile2006 I have news for you, the tube is not pressurised, it is evacuated air, partial vacuum.
And a bullet can crush the tube by crumpling from localised pressure points, there’s a reason why it is shaped as a precision cylinder.
@@crocodile2006 Pressure relief valves... on the vacuum tube that the vactrain is supposed to pass through at speeds of hundreds of miles per hour.
Of course you don't see the problems with that. You're a Musk fanboy.
The amount of energy and resources to produce and run all of this must have one heck of a long environmental payback time.
Has any environmental impact statements been made to address the damage done to the underground burrows of the blind mole rat population? The mole rats have to urinate on each other to communicate,so I don't think they are in any position to object to the disruption and destruction of their homes.
I've sold hyperloops to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and by gum, it put them on the map!
Underrated comment.Well done sir. Monorail.....monorail......monoraaaaaaaail!
Should like comment. But 69 likes is the universe in perfect balance.
there it is, woo-hoo
Hyperloo... D'oh
So I gather there's a brook in North Haverbrook?
Back in 2013 Elon had an idea for hyper loop. Back in the 1950's Popular Science had an article on the idea for hyper loop
He resuggested it now we've moved technology forward.
@@lonyo5377 its just as stpid as Apple saying they invented the smartphone
5 out of 8 people like potato with sour cream
yeah it def was not his idea, lol.
I think thats quite clear in this video
This is the equivalent of magazines in the 50's talking about flying cars. The one way trip to Mars, Mars One, got non-stop media attention and interviews until it went bankrupt.
Zoom makes much of this technology superfluous in a post-COVID world. You simply don't need face-to-face communication to engage in business anymore.
I agree, and travel is to see and feel, not to stare at cellphone monitor in some tube.
This is basically an investor pitch video.
And I'm in!
And I'm here like... If it can't go faster than my own freaking car then I'm out. 108 mph? Are you kidding me?
@@lauraigla6319 that was just a test. It travels from 700 to 1000 km/h
@@millevenon5853 does it though? I'm thinking there's a reason they are only testing it at 108 mph.🙄
Exactly
Fun fact, the name ''Hyperloop'' resulted from a typographical error. The ''R'' wasn't supposed to be there.
best joke yet!
So Hypeloop?
Well played
That's one of the best jokes I've seen.
@@glleesqwerty6402
Please explain
2 years later, we are no where near a HyperLoop ever running. Distrupt travel? Hardly. Dead on Arrival is the name.
The whole technological and social concept had been developed many years before Elon Musk picked it up in 2013. I gained my PhD in 1981 for work on the magnetic levitation/suspension component. All of the other main components, including electromagnetic propulsion and evacuated tube technology, were known then or earlier..
Throughout this vid, they've not once mentioned any safety mechanisms, concerns w feasibility, scalability. It's literally just a pitch to investors.
@@blondegirlsezthis8798 nice try, troll.
@@blondegirlsezthis8798 spaming the same message doesn't do anything
terroristes would have a blast with the loop
Some bullets would destroy atmosphere inside and crush the pods inside
@@kenzinho-nh8xr neither does your effort along with your sock puppets to denigrate a technology that doesn't exist yet. Should 't you be trolling Greta Thunberg or smearing feces on a capital building, trailer park guy?
@@blondegirlsezthis8798 i wish i was rich enough to get a trailer, maybe after u minis my degree, you have to be critical of things that hats how it works, you can't just accept something without proofing everything and every possible situation
why are you so mad that you have to assume something based on my comment?
You think i'm anti climate change?
how do you think those electrical pumps will be powered? electricity produced by fossil fuels probably anyway so i don't se how it could be environmentally friendly anyway
"Traditional maglev trains"-really amusing phrase.
The Bullet train lines opened for business in 1964!
@@simonthomas5367 Those were NOT maglev.
@@ronaldgarrison8478
I am NOT Spongebob
@@robertbones326 No idea what this has to do with, but it's got nothing to do with me.
A track? This sounds like a train....
Wow, so GENIUS BRAH!
Plus the view is horrible
It's not technically a train, like trains it has tracks but so do most forms of transport, trams trolleys those ski things to get up the mou train etc.
I remember when department stores used hyperloops to send interoffice mail. I enjoy the passing scenery when riding a train. Not possible in a hyperloop.
That is so ignorant, you don't deserve a reply.
I love how that dutch guy just has a hyperloop in what I presume is his own backyard
That company was founded in 2016 by engineering students who won part of Musks competition, they now are in the planning stage of building a 3km test track (the one you saw in this video was the first one build in Europe btw, however small it may be, you aren't going for a massive one to start you development), they are now getting the permits for it.
At this moment that company has grown to around 50 employees if I am correct and several large bussiness partners.
@@MDP1702 Is this the competition where none of the teams made it to the end? Because yeah I want those guys building the new transportation systems.
Lol that's what I was thinking, that's when you know they will be the successful ones
@@equinox2584 If we listened to people like you we'd still be using horse and carridge.
Well it is too big to fit in a garage. And like many other big companies they start from the garage, they fixed that by making it in their garden
Imaging being stuck underground in the middle of US and your nearest exit is either LA or NYC.
There would probably be emergency exits and such
How much of them for every mile?)
@@ed34 You can’t open a emergency exit in a vacuum. All the air would be sucked out and passengers would suffocate.
@@ed34 and they'll provide pressure suits, to survive in near vacuum, they're gonna be so cool!
@@ed34 Emergency exits inside a near-vacuum…
A quick reminder to naysayers that escalators started out as a "thrilling" carnival ride.
I was just wondering what if one of the pods breakdown in between the pathway due some technical glitch things do tend to fail (no one can ensure 100 percent success rate), in those kinda scenarios what will be the backup?
Death
When crash inside = damage tube = 1 atmosphere pressure rush to vacuum = shock wave (or wind fast enough to pull thing)
Completely disaster, would cancel entire thing
"Committing doesnt mean spending billons on day 1, committing means how do we phase it? " i like it. i think i will steal this line. haha
I might've misheard that person, did he say "Phase" or "Face"?
@@daelmondejar8536 face
Our government can just print 10 trillion to pay for it so it can get 5% of that
Committing means spending Billions every day, until the goal is reached.
Imagine getting stuck underground in a tube surrounded by vacuum.
Or a malfunction from the other train smashing into ur broke train at 1000kph. Instant death
@@hondaep3813 Or a faulty lock on the train letting oxygen out
Imagine falling from the sky in an aluminum can traveling at 600 mph
@@aaron4820 ima need 5 cans. 1 for my body 4 for my shlong
@@aaron4820 multiple engines, redundancy in all systems. Aluminum cans have more flexibility in the air then underground surrounded by a vacuum.
Let’s do it.
When cars were invented, no one scoffed at the price of the Interstate highway system, no one could even conceive it, but we are flat we have it now.
The really annoying thing about traveling from Liverpool to Manchester and to Leeds is, 40 years ago I used to drive the journey. First leg to Manchester city centre 30 minutes and Leeds an hour. The lack of investment in roads forced local commuters onto the motorways and destroyed the journey times.
U don't need a hyperloop, u need to visit Japan and see how effective they do it
In Japan they don't have kids that would put rocks on the tracks!
@@woodyhunt 😂 lol!
And you need to learn that China is the place. Japan was half a century ago.
@@stevegarcia3731 But Japan has the bullet train, is what he was clearly referring to.
If you actually read up more on this hyper loop topic it’s not about going 100mph it’s about eventually being able to get up to 900mph. Currently 100mph is the goal set that they want to safely achieve yet no one understands that and everyone talks about how “Japan has bullet trains already” blah blah blah, everyone is so narrow minded and can’t actually understand or take the time to even theorize conceptual technology and it’s why I can’t stand explaining things to Americans.
Is it safe?
“We put people on it”
That didn’t answer the question
“Most importantly, they got off”....THIS time... heh heh heh 😈
If they placed people in it and those people went out without a hunch. Then it’s safe.
they put people on a tiny test track for a few minutes. no, it's not safe, it will never be safe. if they ever did build it, which they won't, it would be one long target for terror attacks. it would just be too fun to pop.
Is it safe?
"We don't know, how about instead of putting dummies we put real people on it!"
It's a developing technology, so it's safe enough for a test but naturally there will be more extensive work performed to make it safer. I noticed that they had an emergency stop button between them, so there'd be systems like that in play.
Introduce air to the rear of the capsule thru ducts. Only by moving the static pressure from the front of the capsule to the rear will greatly increased speed.
Geez I just sat here and watched high tech companies find new ways to beat a dead horse.
🤣30 mins of my life im never getting back
@@josiahcaulfield2385
Or maybe Musk will sell you "time in a can" 😂
*Keeping a tunnel of any significant length in a vacuum state would be a miracle of science in itself.*
Near vacuum state
@@prathneo Exactly this. A near vacuum is far easier than an actual vacuum
@@TehPoet what pressure are they going to keep it at?
@@TehPoet Even that is impressive. At scale the best strategy we have would be to dig a really long tunnel and pump the air out periodically which creates less friction. We could not physically create a vacuum tube, but we could potentially create a reduced pressure gradient for mag lev.
In 1890
Excellent I'm looking forward to more of these latest info.....great videos
What I've noticed from other videos is that high speed rail would be the same without the problem of maintaining a vacuum.
The great thing about the hyperloop is that it gives you multiple options on how to die during your trip....
It also ensures your pockets and bank account are emptied beforehand, genius!
@@ongeri 🤣🤣🤣🤣
We all want it quick right?!
It's very scary, I hope it's a joke with a grain of humor in it.
Tbh it does look really dangerous, imagine getting stuck in there without a way out
Imagine not just building a tested, proven, reliable working high speed rail like every other developed country.
Shhh... People love shelling out [literal] tons of cash to pay for vaporware with beautiful CGI, but that has already been disproven.
I do imagine. I also dream of being able to travel the 8 miles from home to work via public transit in less than an hour and a half.
It's not meant to succeed. Like "The Producers" it's meant to fail so they can pocket investors' - and taxpayers' - money with no consequences.
@@annamyob4624 Christ. At that speed, you might as well just walk!
@@troy3456789 I'm all for high speed trains, but keep in mind people were saying "high speed rail is impossible" before someone engineered it. Don't be so pessimistic
A great idea if it can be practical. I'm still curious about how they will design large-scale airlocks at each station. Of course, I've thought this was all a great idea since I saw it in the 1973 made-for-TV movie Genesis II. I'm sure many more people have felt this way since Robert Goddard invented it in 1904.
its not an air chamber magnetic switching
I work in shipping, to my way of thinking, this has some incredible potential for job creation and moving critical freight efficiently.
First question should be how you maintain a huge vacuum like that? Would imagine it's extremely demanding and high risk
Yeah it would be super expensive and probably wont get built. Used to really love a lot of this stuff till it dawned on me one day it was all bull.
@@alejandromartinez3475 Yea, its too bad all those scientists and engineers can't figure it out. To bad they don't have you guys to explain it to them!
@@DanielGFerguson I like the sarcasm. Can it be built probably yes. Will it ever go onto the market? no. It is literally a train with extra steps just build a train it will probably be better and cheaper.
@@alejandromartinez3475 Only time will tell.
@@DanielGFerguson google the size of the biggest vacuum chamber ever made and then compare it to hyperloop, them compare the cost,, then the reliability, then put people inside. Its a money pit
The hyperloop is officially a distraction from ACTUAL transportation solutions
Well put!
Spot on
How??
@@savvy_me There is something called as high speed trains, that are being done in china that go at 320 km/hr and they cost only a fraction of hyperloop.
@@savvy_me trains, subways, buses, trams are all much more efficient and cheaper than the hyperloop scam
I can't believe people still think this is going to happen on any kind of scale.
my concern is that I don't see real economical advantages if compaired with trains, which infrastructure is already on, longly tested and well distributed.
On the other hand this could substitute airplanes (maybe) but I heard they are also working on green planes which would be more economical to build and operate. All in all it seems cool but I'm not so sure if the benefit of going from Liverpool to Manchester in 6 minutes overcomes the cons.
It would be interesting to know how much energy this would save and how long it takes to breakeven.
Elon got the idea from my bank drive thru tellers
I've got a great idea too...I call it the Hypermusk!
It generates ideas for tech, transport and future living. New and improved Hypermusk will be able to talk non stop for 40 days and 40 nights about unrealistic engineering projects. It can come up with 1 new idea EVERY WEEK and is available for soft interviews where it can waffle for hours about "stuff that will never happen". The Hypermusk, if it feels it is being ignored, sounds an alarm at 120 dB until it is interviewed by...well, anybody. Then it comes up with a plan that was probably found in some old sci-fi novel but manages to pass it off as its own.
Btw, it is always running out of battery so please insert charger into lower rear docking port if your Hypermusk begins to talk about being King of the World. That's a sign that it's LOSING POWER. 🤪
WARNING:Hypermusk has that hyper-fishy smell to him-just be aware that the lower docking port relieves the pressure put on him to put his money where his mouth is,while simultaneously using his upper docking port to spew generated fumous from within about how the future will be-according to hypermusk.
WARNING: Hypermusk typically tricks Braindead mammals into thinking its a genuine genius inventor, innovator, and a perfect entity that sacrifice health for money and never stops blabbering about technology that can only use by illogical powers and comes up with technology that is technology for the sake of it while being a simp for a dead rock
Hyper-duped
Just got my hypemusk, it sexually harassed me and offered to buy me a horse. I think it's broken.
l want a refund.
@@billieeisenhower406 No that's normal. You know it's broken when it sexually harasses your horse and offers to buy you! 🤣
I think that an ‘r’ was inserted by mistake. All onboard the Hype Loop.
king comment
LOL this comment is GOLD
Golden comment.
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Bro that’s an upside train but more dangerous
So cool! They dismiss normal high speed trains because they are too expensive. So they are going to lower the price by putting a vacuum tube around them!!
Hahahaha
On point :) Not just a tube, but a tube with a thousands of pumps attached to it which are all prone to failure and are working all the time to create a perfect vacuum.
@@korana6308 And you don't want to know about all of the safety devices or engineering features that will need to be installed to actually make it acceptable by any safety regulator.
There are advantages to going many times faster than existing high-speed trains can go, and this system definitely doesn't need a perfect vacuum (that would never work).
True that there's a whole lot of engineering required to make it work though.
@@patheddles4004 We have more proofs that it can't be done than the other way around.
And here I am sitting in a German ICE, traveling 217 miles per hour ... we actually joke allot about it being always late
True story
Japanese bullet train here
Yea right... and USA has the worst rail network of any developed nation in the world. They need high speed travel before they can look at next generation transport.
217 miles oder 217 km/h ?
@@germany1809 miles
No idea will ever surpass that of the hyperloop, an air hockey table, powerful enough to lift a train and works in vacuum.
None of th eH-L companies believe in the hockey table idea.
😂😂😂
A vacuum? Like no air? What happens when a breach occurs and the passengers get no air? What is a creature somehow gets in? Or a person sabotages the tube? What security is there for a breach?
"Is the hyperloop safe? what better way to show it is safe than by actually putting people on it" 😂 😂
i was laughing so hard when i heard that lol 😂😂
I was like; hold up, he said what? 😅
So funny
I'm gonna steal that line for my death jump coasters in RCT
"Show" is the key word, as in demonstrate. If it were "prove" then it makes it unethical.
It's clear that the scam doesn't work anymore when anyone reads the comments on this page... I'm proud of all of you. Brings a tear to my eye.
Now if people would see the truth about boring co and spaceX as well I would be so happy
@@guiagaston7273 can someone explain what I'm missing? Time to put in some research I think!
now we need people to realize that lithium-ion batteries and 60%coal electric makes electric cars arguably worse for the environment than ICE cars, mass transit is the only way!
Vancouver and other cities like Kelowna...Kamloops...Prince George...Vernon..that would actually be really nice..
Since 10 years it is ready in 2 years.
"some graphics renders"
journalists "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Yeah, funny how the part where Musk doesn't have time to focus on the Hyperloop shows a render of the thing he did have time for, the tunnel system for cars. We now have the result in Vegas, and it's not remotely close, yet no reporters even consider comparing reality to the CGI presented not many years ago.
My pizza would still be late
Call me when it's actually done and people can travel with this thing. Until then, my teleportation technology is a much cooler dream to have.
Ever seen CGP Grey's video?
It's done. Look into it.
@@paulpurdy7135 Done? Awesome. Can you tell me where can I get the tickets? Thanks.
@@michaelm1 Soon. I don't know the price tho. If you think I'm kidding go look how they are lighting up the Eiffel Tower. And pay close attention to the renewable part. If you are young you might have to look up what that means. It's a pretty HUGE deal.
@@paulpurdy7135 Soon? What are you talking about? You said it's done. If I can't buy a ticket, if it's not open for public anywhere in the world, then it's not done. Come on, mate. Don't tell me it's done when it isn't. Not cool.
Above ground makes more sense for almost every conceivable reason. 1. It's cheaper. 2. It's safer. 3. It's easier to maintain. 4. It's more fun for the passengers. 5. It's easier to add more stops. 6. You can build over anything, but not under everything... etc.. etc.. etc... etc.. etc.. oh also visible above ground technology is INSPIRATIONAL. Why hide it and send people sadly through a tunnel? Everything about being underground is such an amazingly awful decision.
At 1000 kph the slightest imperfection in the tube will feel like severe turbulence to the passengers. This will require expensive maintenance to keep the hyperloop tube perfectly aligned. Maglev trains have similar problems keeping the track and train magnet gap perfectly spaced.
They need to keep the Hyper up, so the Loop of money keeps paying their salary.
Yes, and idiotic advertising for idiots.
You've gotta admit, that this was pretty great marketing until people, well ... started looking into how it actually works.
lol
I don't mind it being a money pit for VCs, like fusion, but we should know that it's a bunch of future BS like hyping fusion.
So this is a SCAM
it’s literally a pipe dream, lol 😂
Haha
You might not see it in your lifetime, but that doesn't mean it will not become a reality. Millions of dollars have already been invested, and thousands of people are already working on it; around the clock.
Don’t trust Ford as an investment
@@cronosx6174 What does mean it won't become real? Physics.
@@cronosx6174 Bruh, most countries in the world won't even do bullet-trains because of the massive costs and engineering requirements. Bullet-trains inside vacuum tubes is about as logical as solar-roadways, looks cool in CGI, makes no engineering sense. If you're so sure this will succeed, why do you think Musk bailed on this project years ago?
I love how incredibly out of touch this is. We’ve all been aware for years that the hyperloop is a massive scam and insanely redundant. It’s pseudo science and Bloomberg just fell for it 😂😂
the science is actually plausible. But the economics is the problem. They even where (Transrapid) or still are (SCMaglev) for "regular" magnetic levitation systems. And now within a tube that has to maintain a vacuum it's just insanely more costly to build the infrastructure for it. It has to pay it's costs of someday, but flying is just to cheap still as a direct competitor. Even if it would be faster. The Concorde had to go as well mostly due to cost factors...
Nothing like building a high-speed vacuum tube in an earthquake prone region.
In 10 years you’ll be running this video all over again. Hyperloop will be no closer to reality.
Thats what people must have said about planes
@@monikagarg5656 call me when someone actually builds a system with a vacuum tube with a manned pod floating on an air cushion and traveling more than 500 mph. I promise you it will never happen. The engineering details for it do not and can not work.
They'll probably have some new, snazzy CGI, though. Maybe Bloomberg will add smell-o-vision to the next pitch video.
@@monikagarg5656 They did not, but nice invention.
@@TorianTammas Missed those history classes didn't you?
Sort of reminds me of the transport tubes in Futurama! 🤔😁
Long term maintenance is going to brutal on such a demanding system. Plus, if these ever become intertwined with society, the security on them will also be an expensive and a vital factor to consider. With this in mind, above ground trains just make more sense.
I sense a Thunderf00t video coming!
I think it was already released sm time back lol.
Thunderc00m
I'm just here for the Tf00t comments
He's released the videos on this several times.
We don't need Thunderf00t to see how big a scam this is.
I like how they gloss over the biggest hurdle. Actually making a vacuum in that large of a system with seals that last for even a decade in the tubes.
Edit: And as Pascal pointed out, any depressurization event will also cause a shockwave of high pressure air to travel down the tube faster than the speed of sound.
If everything is magnetic I think all they have to do is have some kind of magnetic bearings and switches?That close-open-open-close sort of sequence of vacuum airlocks ... it has to happen in mere milliseconds or microseconds depending on the speed of the pods, and they need to keep independent vacuum pumps running constantly in each section, priming the vacuum, and depending on the traffic you more or less regulate the intensity of the vacuum and the speed of transfer .... each transfer causes air leakage and the vacuum gets slowly lost until you have to shutdown the system to restore the vacuum.
If there was a natural way something like how a ram water pump works, to build up the vacuum into a chamber, you could potentially use the hyperloop system to pump water and form a vacuum and effectively become a sort of electricity,internet/data,water, air, sewage, people transportation system that could solve excessive urban sprawl.
IF, not when. If HighSpeedRail can be built, it would make hyperloop a deadend.
When Elon does Starship hopping from Port to Port , you WONT need hyperloop or planes. Space/Air, Land and Sea will be the defacto travel as most people work-from-home. Vacationing via Cruise ships. Spaceflight for CEO executive in-person meetups. Zoom meetings for the rest of the peons :-D
It would be easy to do it non-mechanically with a reverse osmosis filter. The difficult part is coming up with a material that soaks up air with enough efficiency to produce a vacuum. Ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha.
@@plusmanikantanr Having moving parts in a tube with a "trains" going 1000 km/h (supposedly in quick succession) is the worst idea I have heard in all of this.
Its simple... you dont make a singular vacuum... to make the hyperloop work there just needs to be higher pressure behind the pod than in front... so a series of ducted fans cycling air in the opposite direction of travel will work without the need for air locks as some genius suggested...
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I hesitate to write this but...
Back in the 1980's a friend of mine had a NDE and was shown glimpses of the future. One was high speed trains without wheels that "glided" without touching anything that caused friction.
I don't know if it's the Hyperloop or not. Frankly, if I hadn't had a NDE myself I'd find his account unbelievable. With that said, I don't expect anyone to believe me.
Speed is not everything. The Concord enabled supersonic commercial flight almost 50 years ago but was unprofitable to operate and eventually put out of business. Hyperloop certainly sounds technologically feasible but economically unfeasible
The Concord failed because it had highly restricted routes, they could not fly them in many places. The sonic boom problem essentially killed it. This example is really not relevant.
@@wearesimulated1579 Speed is not everything. Commercial planes don't fly at their top speeds because flying faster is less profitable. There is no technological barrier to building a commercial plane that flies just below the speed of sound. Even though flights could be 20% faster and airlines would increase their plane utilization rate, its not worth the extra fuel cost. Technologically feasible but economically unfeasible
@@teoengchin You are not saying anything of value. I explained why the Concord failed. You replied with your opinion on speed? Why? That isn't what we are discussing. We are discussing why your example of the Concord failing isn't relevant to this situation. This method of travel would not have a limitation like the Concord did. With such limited routes, the Concord was destined to fail. It had no chance.
@@wearesimulated1579 dude, this video is about Hyperloop, not the Concorde. Hyperloop's main selling point is speed. Since you say Concorde example invalid because of route limitation, I just gave a different example with no route limitation
@@wearesimulated1579 The viability of Hyperloop depends on Speed/Convenience vs Cost. Perhaps you can explain how Hyperloop can overcome it's high construction cost? Even I could get behind the Hyperloop if it was economically feasible
Before introducing passenger hyperloop, I think it can revolutionize logistics since the tunnel size can be reduced to a few feet.
Nah.
In logistics we want scale. So to really be revolutionizing to logistics it needs to be able to transport containers in large amounts cheap.
You know, like freight trains.
This Hyperloop lunacy isn't dead yet.
When we cant even get high speed fiber optic internet reliably to most of the United States, why would anyone expect them to be able build a national network of vacuum tubes for physical transportation?
dunno about that my 5g works pretty well actually
Korea has 5G everywhere and is going 6G and has quantum encrypted telecom infra.
Nobody told them we haven't used vacuum tubes since the transistor was invented.
@@Tryst46 different kind of vacuum tubes, bud
@@eh-cg5gp Doh! I do know that. You evidently don't understand the concept of a joke.
I'm interested to know how they would deal with situations such as an unexpected tube depressurization. Or just a minor earth tremor (which I would think would be a big problem with magnetic bearings).
That's the great thing about Hyperloop If any tiny thing goes wrong, every single person within the system gets mulched. There's nothing to save and no rescue operation to mount. Its a self-solving problem.
They are talking about it. There’s TH-cam videos discussing how it could be done
@@dairallan well tbh even if a single bolt on the railway track came off it runs a risk of the whole train derailing. Let's see how it turns out before we dismiss it altogether
@@dairallan Yeah this is a bad idea. Just like those fancy dancy engineers with their little plane things. Those darn planes will never be used, what if it crashes? I doubt plane crashes will leave many survivors
Well, it's not complicated really. You will need a broom, a sponge and a bucket.
If we place SpaceX rockets inside the hyperloop, we could truly reach Musk's dream!
I wonder what will be the G level on passengers when Lane switch happen at 1000 km/h 😉
"Over G"
* beep * * beep * * beep *
"Over G"
* beep * * beep * * beep *
"Over G"
* beep * * beep * * beep *
"Over G"
Probably XD
We already have pretty fast train solutions available - Maglevs - and even they have failed to be widely adopted. Hyperloop is dead in the water if it can't make an economical case for itself.
Yawn... Another petroleum industry sponsored troll crying about how scary or impractical Hyperloop is LOL
@@blondegirlsezthis8798 do maglevs even use petroleum
@@user-vc6hv6gg7g depends on the energymix of the country, like it would be with a hyperloop
the energy expenditure required to maintain near-vacuum far outweighs the efficiency gain in speed from the elimination of air drag
The economical case would rely on the system being modular. Sporting anything from a minivan to a motorbike... Well, maybe as enclosed vehicles, possibly using maglev (only way to approach anything resembling viability) in a tunnel and somewhat faster.
Wow 100mph that’s almost half as fast as a maglev train without the expensive tunnel costs.
Lol
maglev and anything high speed requires precision track work. That costs money no matter what.
@@krugtechyou can take any precision infrastructure that a maglev train needs and double it for a hypeloop
@RoastWorthy Uh that's not been the case since, when, like 1910s?
@RoastWorthy you think japan is 3rd world country or something?
Amazing work!
Less flexible, less capacity, less secure, more expensive.
Just build a train.
i like how they advertise this as the future for speedy transport. Then they had hyperloop tunnels made of glass with pods moving very slowly for presumably the sightseeing of urban Walmartians in different cities.
@@chrissi.enbyYT It such a system was build it would be for transporting goods and natural resources instead of people. People aren't that profitable.
@@chrissi.enbyYT So you´re saying we are actually no where close to seeing this in action? I find their claim of 5-10 years to market highly optimistic.
@@chrissi.enbyYT I am with you on this one (I'm actually quite surprised to see so many sensible people in the comments).
But I find it entirely possible for some lone looser city with more money than sense to perhaps build one. And they will be losing money with that project , there's just no way around it, even if they reduce it's cost 10 times , you can not make this project economically feasible.
Thunderf00t is gonna love this video.
same thought :D
to be busted😂
Did anyone else notice that in the scene where he says "massively inefficient truck haulage", the roadway is being fitted with overhead electric lines for completely electric long distance truck hauling?
Trucks are by default an inefficient system for distance transportation. Companies want to use trains but the railways and carts in many nations are of such low quality its simply not worth the risk of delays.
That made trucks cheaper. But if the train system was properly maintained and upgraded to modern standards it would dominate the transportation sector.
remember the winning model in the competition was pushed for about 250 metres and then proceeded to go for a whooping 50 metres before it stopped. The entire thing is a vapor ware sale
First you have to install Elon's Neuralink so the computer graphics load
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌
Oh that upload came with the covid vaccine, no extra charge.
That 20second 'prototype' is literally a mono rail in a negative pressure tube
It put Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook on the map !!!
Congrats! You described the basic components of a hyperloop!
but travels at 1256 mph
Mag-levs cost a lot more to build than monorails.
Thats literally what Hyperloop is.maglev in a near vacuum
Can you imagine the cost to build this in California, impossible is the word
Just for the record, "short-lived" is pronounced with a long i. Because it's based on the word life.
"all hail the white paper" thunderfoot
... all hail the white paper...
@@RocketboyX Thunderfoot has such an inferiority complex when it comes to Musk.
@@pietersteenkamp5241 it's just realism Vs. Marketing garbage.
Musk has pulled his investments from the hyped loop years ago
@@alexcitovsky7389 Bro, these blind Musk fans won’t believe you no matter what you say. They’ll still get their hopes up on Musk’s fake futurism.
@@friendlyperson9691 whatever man, there are so many billionaires but not all of them have car and space companies. Musk fans are annoying but you have to agree, man is a visionary CEO atleast when compared to all the other CEO's of our era
Excellent stuff bro
As a former train designer, the technology is very do-able. As stated by Alan James, the effects will be transformational... if phased in correctly. The economies of scale plus operational running cost efficiencies will rapidly bring down costs across the board to a point where time saved incl. the benefits & all cost per Km Minute travelled, will rival existing modes of transport. Super commercial hubs (like the one shown in the North of England) will be replicated all over the world where these hubs, once connected to other hubs, will themselves create their own dynamic. This technology like many others, needs to be applied, not left on the drawing board of time to gather dust!
Ofc the trains are doable, because they're just maglev trains. Doesn't take a train designer to see that much. The biggest problem is to maintain a 3m diameter vaccum tube for hundreds of miles
@@Preetzole You say the biggest problem is to maintain a 3m diameter vacuum tube for hundreds of miles, this is Not Correct, as one would only need to create & maintain a vacuum in the vicinity of the moving transporter immediately in front of the moving 'train'... this is easy to solve.
"The Hyperloop is accelerating towards reality"
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, no it's not
@John Foley And Toyota made 10.5 million cars ...
@@maiskk6326 Toyota made their first car in 1936 and have over 40+ plants worldwide… Tesla made their first car in 2008 and have 4 facilities…
You’re literally comparing the second biggest selling car company to Tesla. Let alone some Toyota’s costing half the price of Tesla’s cheapest car (the model 3). Tesla is going to become huge!
@@seabass5297 The first part of your comment is irrelevant, he was throwing numbers and my comment was merely stating that they're useless when it comes to the Hyperloop.
Your last sentence is 100% subjective, one could say Tesla is already huge, #1 automaker by market cap.
And it still has NOTHING to do with the Hyperloop ...
@John Foley the difference is electric cars exist, they work, they where already in use before Tesla, you acting like musk invented flying cars
@John Foley youll be saying the same thing in 2 decades
It has all of the issues of maglev in addition to having to operate and maintain thousands of kilometers of vacuum chamber. I'm not convinced that the efficiency gains of operating in a vacuum offset the energy and economic costs of building and maintaining the rail itself.
Rail goes in sections not one piece. You haven't seen trains. There are reasons why there were tokens and semaphores in the past and now digitally controlled systems.Korea and China, the leaders in rail,swim in money.
It's the technology of the future! Until then, let's keep it there until we can iron out these other problems we have. Also, how do you stop something running along a magnetic field in a vacuum without breaking the entire thing apart?
@@kebman The same way maglevs slow down? instead of pushing of backwards along the tracks, you push forward slightly.
But that's not the main problem here. The whole "keep thousands of kilometers of tube vacuum without anything going wrong AND it somehow being more energy efficient than just using a meglev" is the problem.
just don't see how the vacuum chamber is doable in the real world setting.
The main problem with the vacuum design is that, if you have seen actual vacuum chambers, it has a really bulky and usually slow to open vacuum doors. Imo a train slowing down to stop is faster than a having to open a super heavy door
What about weather and extreme weather conditions, natural disasters including seismic activity. Not planning for these can cause the whole thing to come crashing down. Although the idea of having a hyperloop from say an airport to a train station or from towns to train stations or airports would speed up travel and would get rid of almost 80% of rental vehicles and other vehicles on the road. Reducing co2 emissions and lowering gasoline usage which would make it greener so long as the hyperloop itself isn't causing more issues than its solving definitely needs to be renewable energy.
Yeah maintaining a hard vacuum within hundreds of miles of tube is sooo easy and inexpensive. Oh, and also maintain airtight containers for the passengers inside so they don't suffocate.
Somebody really though to themselves "today I wanna create the dumbest, most expensive and unfeasible mode of transport I can come up with" and got the idea of Hyperloop.
basically elon musk in a nutshell
@@visceraeyes525 Elon musk wasn't the first person to come up with the idea. It was circulating for years before he picked it up. He's just the most famous person to promote it. And it's also being developed in Dubai and in the UK yet somehow Elon is everyone's punching bag.
Korea has gone very far ahead.
You most a delusional trump supports
The spaceship was dumb before 1950