How Bournemouth beat Man Utd
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Bournemouth convincingly beat Manchester United at Old Trafford by three goals to nil.
Their manager, Andoni Iraola has had a difficult start to life in the Premier League, but with a unique way of defending he is now starting to get results.
JJ Bull and Jon Mackenzie explain how Iraola’s pressing patterns exploited Man Utd.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:26 Q1. Bournemouth play really differently don’t they?
00:46 Q2. So what do they do without the ball?
02:48 Q3. So what does this look like?
05:12 Q3.5 Examples from MUN v BOU
06:22 Q4. This looks pretty risky…?
09:14 Q5. How does this link to their in possession play?
13:08 Q6. Were Man Utd the better team?
16:26 So where does this leave Man Utd?
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Jon is the Vsauce of football
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Bro literally lol
He has not spiraled as much towards insanity as Michael, but he's getting there!
Hahahahahaha this comment
@@hveiselif he as to talk about Bournemouth again he'll snap 😅😅
Make one about Everton too, Dyche is eating that 10 points deduction like its gravel
you should try his wife's Christmas pudding
you can hear it in his voice
Was he a bouncer before coaching
Worms*
Like its gravel 😂
I think people are vastly underestimating both Bournemouth & Iraola. Andoni inherited this team and has made some quite substantial changes in terms of his starting 11, and even the playing positions of players like Cook & Christie who have been the engine room of this resurgence in form. Over the past 7-8 games bar the city game, Bournemouth have absolutely controlled each and every game and expertly manipulated teams like United & Newcastle.
The entitlement from United fans is palpable, they still think its 1999.
The chemistry between these too is superb, always love these Tifo IRL vids!
two*
It’s almost like they could have a podcast where they bantered like this every week and instead have the driest podcast ever
JJ bull: "All that glitters is gold", Jon Mackenzie: "Doesn't like Shrek" basically sums this up perfectly
@@Mushtoast1except from Gary. The only glitter that lets the saying down
As a Man Utd fan I'd much rather watch the cartoon 'Dalot in Space' than watching Dalot actually in space this season.
He's been great in space this season 😐 he should cross a bit better though
In basketball, it's called a "match up zone defense". Been done for decades in basketball. I always wondered why most tactics channels only ever talked about man-to-man and zonal pressing. I guess I have my answer to that now! Thank Jon!❤
Can you explain how they use it in a basketball sense pls?
in a matchup players are defending a zone, if an offensive players move into the defensive players zone, they go and "matchup" to that player, but you don't follow the player out of your zone. @@jonathana6943
so my team this press with 2 up front and 2 at half court and 1 player back roaming around the 3pt line to lurk long passes when the ball is inbounded one guard picks the man up and forces him to a side, the other guard rotates over to guard the middle, if the ball handler gets to right before half court the wing comes to trap and the opposite wing slides over to guard the cross court pass while the center who has been roaming goes to jump the closer pass@@jonathana6943
"people say Man Utd were the better team"
The better team doesn't lose 0-3 at home. Outclassed and this video shows a couple of many many reasons why.
Was looking for this comment. Thank you
I noticed how the high pressure was similar to what Ten Hag did in Ajax (and has tried to do in United), BUT Bournemount also has a backup plan (a well-oiled transition to sitting deep) which Ten Hag doesn't and has lead to numerous goals and disasters like that 7-0 vs Liverpool. It's high press or nothing for him. Hopefully he learns something from this match.
Will NEVER happen with these players. Ten Haag needs more time before we start judging him EVEN we lose the next three matches. Unless we completely fall apart in the second half of the season
@@haimainjauo242 pls tell me this is a joke?
@@On_my_way_to_Nirvana-jx7ps Jose said this too. S manager should have a first 11 he trusts
I don’t think he has tried to that at United enough at all in fact he’s gone away from that to suit the players he has which is ridiculous and eventually will cost him the job
Loving the AC Moose kit at the start
Love to see the Bournemouth content! They have looked really solid the last few games.
John in red and JJ in green, they are the Super Tifo Brothers
Please bring the podcast back I could listen to this for hours!!
some iraola-ball being analysed 😍🍒
loving this chemistry between you two 🔥great analysis
And the lack thereof 🤣
Saw JJ in Hackney having a few pints on Friday night. Next time I’ll gather some courage to get him a Pint for all the great work :)
“Up the Dons” being the highlight of this, with a wonderfully glaikit JJ.
From the title, I thought this would be a 3 second video, where JJ just said "Easily".
Love that red shirt!! What a great team name, Moose 🫎
Can you do one about everton as well? Love your vids ❤
Love your content lads
JJ is definitely having a positive impact on John McKenzie's mood for sure! It's good to see a bit more of those pearly whites :D
Semenyo is so underrated. If Eze rated 8 Semenyo should be at least 7.8
Talking about players that aren’t good enough and inconsistency is fair enough. At the same time though surely a top class manager should be coming up with tactical solutions to win games, or at least not lose so badly. Especially against teams with much less resources.
Great analysis - Jon / JJ have been a big highlight of football analysis in 2023 ✅️
I would really love an in depth analysis of Ten Hag's time so far at Man Utd to if you guys think he is worth the sack or not.
Ten Hag is the coach who is addicted to his preferred (risky) playing style, without analysizing his players' capabilities and knowledge, balancing the dressing room's atmosphere, and encouraging his players to grow. He definitely is not the one who can manage the big club like MU.
@@soccerlungNo he has definitely changed what he originally planned to do with the club, he is being a lot more conservative with the current squad in terms of risk taking while still working on the counter-attacking play style. With the main team the risk factor will be a lot more obvious since he knows they will be more capable of that style of play, this is why he has bought the players he has. It is just unfortunate a lot of them are injured. This is not really an excuse though, the second team should still be a very solid team; we currently just lack more solid defenders that suit the style of play and our attackers need to be a lot more effective; they are getting plenty of shots but are not where near concise enough with them!
I think they already done one and the jury was out because of injuries and squad morale etc.
With how the players behave, can you really blame him tho?
Can’t really sack someone who’s few points off city and still challenging for top 4
Really good video
Given that Bournemouth played this game in yellow and Man Utd played in red, why are they represented by the colours on the board, ie Man U in beige and Bournemouth in red? Lol
Other than that, good job
Please make more videos on Everton and Villa
Bournemout beat United because United have no presence in Zone 14 meaning they can't maintain attacking pressure while changing between angles of attack. That makes them very easy to defend against. If they try to force the issue they tend to lose the ball leading to counters. They generally get more and more frustrated and desperate as time goes on, especially when they are chasing a game, and they open up at the back. Simple.
@TifoIRL you guys should do a video on Alisson, comparing his shot saving to other goalkeepers in the PL.
4:34 Tavernier immediately twigging with Jon as Rangers captain.
A different one
Looking back it's the floated balls to the midfield that Bournemouth are pouncing on. So the press may not be so 'interpretational' as having different triggers than we are used to.
JJ looks a little flat, but because of the chemistry and the love by Jon in the talking about Bournemouth's tactics, it works well regardless. Wouldn't always recommend having him send in the questions beforehand though.
"this looks a bit risky...?" Half expected JJ to say the dot dot dot out loud. :D
It's funny how Jon invented the term hybrid press when match-up zone defense already exists in basketball which is the same concept
GIRONA VIDEO WHEN
That would be good, yeah.
An in depth deep dive on ETH's time at United could make for a good video. It's been a weird tenure (to me anyway), even though they finished 3rd and won the league cup, it still didn't make sense for them. Idk if y'all get what I'm saying but from what little I remember of United under him, their play and their position on the table haven't made any sense.
They have been carried so hard by Rashfords insane form in the second half of last season. Actually really concerning that he fell off so hard so quickly. Now the whole team is struggling and nobody is consistently stepping up and there are rumours that ten Haag is losing the dressing room. Hard times for him
@@Allschmoi idk with Rashford atp, guy is SO inconsistent. I mean sure he's great when he's playing well but those moments are so few and far between. I remember that insane run was the first in like a season and a half that he'd been anything but underwhelming or bang average. At some point united probably have to give up, wait for a moment when he starts performing for them, and put him on the block to replace him with someone who's equally good or maybe slightly worse but consistent.
@@poppyharlow4448 last season PL was extremely poor with big clubs had had poor season, liverpool, chelsea, spurs were all underperformed and we won LC by default bcoz we had the easiest draw ever.
Can we get a video on whatever that thing they're starting to play in South Africa is? It's a combination of Futsal skills and Jogo Bonito, lots of showboating, is organized and is quickly becoming a recognized form of entertainment. Edit: It's called _Kasi football,_ and there are several shorts of it on TH-cam, including a reaction video by Mason Mount.
Kasi football has been apart of our culture for many years
Attacking players(most often in the wide areas) move past defenders by dancing rather than dribbling
It's amazing to watch and difficult face
It's not useful
This is more nuanced than the cliched “they just don’t have a plan” rolled out by Jenas and seconded by Wright
ETH should offer Hybrid Role & more diverse to counter high press😊
It's basically like first season for Ten Hag, first season he couldn't make them play how Ajax played under him and now in this season he's trying to make them play like Ajax but our midfielders are too slow (Amrabat, Eriksen) or have no game sense (Mctominay) and other players look lost because they aren't used to the system and constant injuries and changes in team is messing up the team co-ordination and Mctominay has to play because we have no goal scorer in form which is like United are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Feels like the only forward now is get rid of all players signed by previous managers and also Mctominay and Rashford.
and replace them with eth signings because eth has great eyes for talent ehh?
@@harukrentz435 No that shouldn't be his job, a new director of football has to be hired when/if Ratcliffe comes on board. Not all the players we signed last season and this season may be Ten Hag's choices and the amount we paid for them is also not Ten Hag's fault. Ten Hag has made many mistakes this season but most of those mistakes have happened because of bad management of the team by Glazers all these years.
We should really invest in an inverted fullback as no fullback in this squad is capable of playing that role. It would allow us to have a player alongside the solo cdm who we have seen to be isolated in these new tactics from the start of the season. Additionally would allow us to keep mct and Bruno high.
Then Bruno Fernanj and Scott McTominay continue to waste possession trying to play risky passes and this time the wide areas are left open for the opposition to attack because the fullback's tucked in.
My brother, your club needs better players, better manager, better board, better everything. Until then, one can keep saying Ronaldo, Pogba, De Gea were the "problem".
I'm not sure why Scum fans think these fancy modern tactics are going to fix their team. Nothing besides a full rebuild of the team is going to be effective.
@@whodiss4473you guys just need a coach who knows how to treat their players and how to play football. You guys literally gave away billions and billions for mediocre players...
Dalot can play that role
why would you do inverted full back before you try double pivot, why would you run before you can crawl, this is ludicrous
I want Andoni at Man United, these young Spanish managers are the best in the business.
Who would have guessed that John’s first sentence would be about out of possession?
Got to cover fulhams two 5 nils in two games!
Bournemouth are very good
Aberdeen are in a CUP FINAL!?❤
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Please, no go on ahead as you sarcastically dismantle my club to shambles.
‚How much do you think several is?‘
‚Several is more than 2 isn‘t it?‘
‚I think it‘s three or more‘
Man Utd are very, very funny. The defending on the first goal was something else.
Doc Oc harnessed the power of the sun finally, and destroyed them
Remember when people criticised Tottenham for only beating Bournemouth 2-0...
Pain
1:21 Man Utd was not ready for that
should look at our kick off routine. we punt the ball either out for a goal kick or into the corner for a through to pin them
finding out that Jon is being asked questions he set himself 😢
Yessir bro
The tittle should be "How United Keep on Beating Themselves"
Not united getting by battered by doc Octavius 😭😭
4:47
Whats that face
why didn't they make one like this with the Man utd vs Chelsea game?
Doc Ock avoided United's spidey sense.
STAND FREE
Miss the weekly podcast
They have one Spotify but it’s usually John and a guest
4:41 - 4:48
This didn’t have to be a video. You could’ve just said “because Bournemouth is the better team” and finished it like that
you can have all the tatics in the world but if you just can't score then tatics don't matter.
I would say several is more than a few, and a few is more than a couple, and a couple more than "a", and "a" more than "give me your money!"
You’ve got Solanke who is twice the player Martial is. You’ve got Kluivert who is a better player than Fernandes and you’ve got two Bournemouth wingers who work harder than the other two Utd wingers. It’s not rocket science lads! 😅 🚀
"a few" is three or more.. Several is about seven-ish 😉
This Bournemouth manager looks so similar to doctor octopus from Spiderman
Want villa vs man city analysis
43 seconds TTFOOP (time to first out-of-possession)
By putting the ball in the oppositions net three times.
Crazy how lots of TH-cam analysts were raving about McTominay because he scored a few goals, but other managers want to force the ball to him because he's so bad on the ball and is by far the weakest link. lmao Take him out and play Mainoo or Hannibal instead, and it'll make the team function much better (albeit with a few less goals, possibly).
Looking forward to the next video, how Bayern beat them...
United didnt play bad per say, but they didnt controll the game or were the better team imo.
How Bournemouth beat Man Utd: they turned up.
The way John said "The Dons" was like a man who has absolutely no idea or interest about football 😢
Moose are huge.
I haven’t even watched the video but United couldn’t break the Bournemouth press from midfield and made us go long to Martial. What United should have done was get rid of McTominay who was playing high hoping for a turnover and play Mainoo along side Amrabat to break the press and get Bruno in behind the midfield. Shaw should have started left back and Varane would have dealt with Solanke who was bullying Shaw for fun.
Not difficult.
Every game mctominay starts just makes Uniteds midfield so empty and easy to cut through
@@DaManIsEreYH yeah. Sure he can do goals but he can't pass or do technical stuff... he's a midfielder, that should be the baseline
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Why there is no video about "How Aston Villa beat Man City"?
I can't think of a single "real" opportunity United had. These so-called chances are low percentage. Compare it to Chelsea who just seem to miss sitters every game. There needs to be a video on why United score so few goals. Whatever we are doing is resulting in low percentage chances compared to other teams. Is it Bruno spamming low percentage through balls which count as a chance but isn't really? Looks good on Bruno's stats but doesn't stack up in reality and actually translate to goals.
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Hello lads! Another masterclass from United 😂
What shirt is John wearing? It gets me HARD
Several... Not three. Four? Dubious. Five at a pinch. Six... Now we're talking 😊
I think it's also been a culmination of five games or so now where Bournemouth have played incredibly well and not really got the recognition. Villa's most ardent fans would admit they were fortunate to leave the Vitality with a point.
would love to hear from the two guys in the video. if united had got the 3 chances bournmouth scored from how many would united have scored. goals change games and united can't score for some reason.
JJ: How many do you think several is?
Jon: Several is more than 2 isn't it.
JJ: [looks skeptical] I think it's 3 or more.
You guys crack me up.
Ten hag is too stubborn to change his useless tactic of solo DM with 2 very advanced midfielders. Even the most elite DM would struggle in his system. Simple fix is inverting a fullback into midfield to keep Bruno and mctominay high. 3 - 2 shape instead of the 4 - 1 shape currently being used. Leaving us Massively vulnerable on the counter which has been evident when teams cut through the midfield.
I saw Shaw earlier in the season and Dalot recently often inverting into the midfield. Is it probably less tactics and more players not knowing how/when to do it?
@@rdxsyShaw and Dalot naturally bombard forward, They're not used to inverting into the midfield.
Same time next week : How Liverpool demolished Man Utd 5-0
Only 5? You’re aiming low there
I remember City fans predicting a win like that a few years ago and somehow united won. Good luck though. 👍
Man utd players didn't put on the shift
Hi.
Bournemouth beat United the same way Ole used to beat City 4 times
More than 2 and 3 or more are the same thing
They hoofed the ball out for United goal kicks at every opportunity so they could match up when Onana was restarting. For United it was embarrassing and again shows how tactically immature United’s midfield is in play.
And how predictable United are. ETH must have known that’s what Bournemouth were doing but didn’t modify his system or team to counter against the hybrid press.
@@bigrandomun9267now I'm beginning to question the manager for the first time. I was willing to overlook his team selections, personal problems with players, sale of promising youth stars, and poor signings because I believed he was a tactical genius and could make United conjure up one tactical masterclass after another. That's was the last straw for me personally
JJ Bull is the epitome of ADHD
Easily
Are we ever going to see a team that essentially ices the puck on purpose? Become really good at pressing from an opposition goal kick as your attack, when you do have the ball deep just boot it out for that GK rather than do the difficult build up phase yourself.