Audio Technica ATH M40x Review
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- Audio Technica ATH M40x Review. Is the M40x really a neutral headphone? Is it really better than the M50x?
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Good review. I'm glad someone describes them the same as I hear them, except for one thing, I don't find the treble grainy.
Before I bought them I saw dozens of reviews on Amazon saying they had a flat frequency response, and how neutral they are.You're right, they they're neither flat nor neutral..
Nevertheless, I can still enjoy them.
my m40x's loved the weird static in the background of this video
Great review. I have done work in radio and TV sound production, used a lot of pro audio gear and in my opinion the M40x is a rock solid performer especially at this price. They are incredibly good headphones, possibly the best sub $100 pair I have ever used personally.
Do you think they are good for mix master ?
do you think this will be good for electric drumming?
@@lush_one1614 Yes. I've used these for mixing and recording my own music. The M40x's don't add much "color" (bass or treble lifting), so they're pretty close to neutral and therefore suitable for music production.
@@corel965 Yes. That's my primary use for them. I use my M50x to watch movies and play games because their sound is more "colored", meaning they have a bass and treble boost applied and are much less neutral sounding than the M40x.
@@Thrashman138 thank you !
Good videos bruv. Subbed
Excellent review that cuts through the hype. Really admire and appreciate your honesty. Keep up the good work with unbiased reviews. This certainly helped me making an informed decision about these headphones.
I am so thankful you cleared the misinformation up. I was planning on buying these in my pursuit of a decently cheap headphone for casual music and gaming (primarily because people can't stop singing praise for audio technica for their build quality and detail retrieval). Saw your k371 review and now they are my top choice. Funnily enough, the k371 cost a fair bit cheaper (it's about equivalent to 80$) than m40x in my country and may go for even cheaper on an upcoming sale. I have just one question, how detailed would you say the k371 in comparison to m40x are? I will be purchasing my first serious headphone and your channel helped me a lot, you've earned a sub.
K371 is in another league to the M40x in my opinion. Both in frequency response/ sound signature and detail. Definitely K371 for me.
I just bought these headphones and your review was the most accurate by far.
thanks for the review uncle Joe Ingles !
I'm not worried about the hinges on my new pair. I've had a pair of M30x for a couple years that finally died, but I've never had any build problems with them.
M40X's are a tad over-hyped, but for the price range there really aren't many closed-back options out there that can do as many things as nicely as the M40X does (I guess the K361 is probably better now but aren't widely available yet).
The pad swap is a must though, especially with the angled pads that add a bit more soundstage.
I think yeah if you can live with the comfort issues and you dont mind that its not the 'neutral' headphone that its been hyped up to be then sure the M40x is ok for £70. I do quite enjoy the M40x with the sheepskin pads. But by the time you've added pads to it, the price creeps up to DT 770 territory, and thats such a good headphone, its hard to justify the M40x at that point.
@Dzie Kuje Which "top tier" gaming headsets exactly? Because there are offerings like Beyerdynamic MMX 300 2nd Gen and Audeze LCD-GX which seem better than M40x.
@Dzie Kuje Ok but I wouldn't consider Steelseries as top tier though.
@@zahitemremetin606 i dont think they are top tier either , i think steelseries is rather low end for gaming headsets, i truly hate the sound quality. even my old cooler master mh751 has better sound than most steel series arctis's in my opinion.
would you be doing a headphone tier list or a top 5~10 video XD
Are you wearing the K361 or the K371 headphones in this review? They both look so similar. The durability & quality of that hinge mechanism has been called into question by many.
I agree on most of what you said in this video. Both 50 and 40 share similar signature, and for what they're cost just get the 40. Although I think you could've explained how does the earpads changes the sound. You said more colored, but in what way? Is it brighter, warmer, harsher or smoother? I understand that one earpad would change the sound differently to the others, but at least while you've had it might as well state it.
Edit : I think these hype online applies to a lot of decent starting headphones from. And the main issue is we have people coming from earphone that came with phones, gaming headsets, and beats-like headphone. They don't have a good reference point, that's why they can't help but think that whatever they have is neutral.
Bravo! I just discovered your channel. Will subscribe. It's true that neither the M40x nor M50x are particularly good headphones in my opinion. Good to have the hype put to rest. I see you are wearing the relatively new AKGs. Would have bought into them but they appear to have reliability issues. I will look to see if you have a review. Looking forward to browsing your channel.
M40X and M50X are quite expensive in NZ, but I gave the 50 a demo anyway when I was looking for a closed-back. Really liked the look and feel of the thing (especially in the grey colour I tried), but the intense claustrophobic sensation it gives you is not for me. It was a combination of clamp, frequency response and an in-your-face soundstage I found a bit fatiguing. Ended up with a Takstar Pro-82 for less than a third the cost. The Takstar is no giant killer, but very comfortable, nicely built, nicely priced and sounds good for the money.
Thank you for the review!
By the way, how would you describe that fun signature of the m40x with those brainwavz pads? Comparing it with the stock pads.
Wider sound stage, less bass , neutral mids and highs
So which ones ARE the most neutral closed back studio monitor headphones then? The DT770 are not neutral and neither are the k371 you are wearing in this video right?
Nice review of the M40x!
Recently the pads on mine are worn out and can’t find any stock pads as replacements, I plan on replacing them with Velour Pads would you recommend that choice?
Whatever you replace them with is going to affect the sound but to what extent you won't know until you try. Brainwavz have recently released a new pair of pads for the m50/m40x that have been designed to not change the sound, I haven't tried them yet but they might be worth checking out.
Check out dekoni pads for m50/40x
Velour pads take bass away from the sound
So for monitoring,which one is the choice?plz tell me if you see this comment
I think the problem with both the m40x and m50x is that they were so hyped and then the m50x suffered a huge backlash. Personally, for what they are (tough, foldable, removable cable, not bad sound), I kind of like them. Like you I don’t find the m40x neutral but actually prefer the m50x. I think they are a great entrance to being an audiophile. They certainly were mine
Are these better than shp9500 and k371? Or do you have any rec for under 100 bucks
I hope that you can review the Status Audio CB1.
I've had mine for 3 years now, swapped pads with angled brainwavz and removed the lock mechanism to use a bose cable.
I bought them to replace a pair of shure srh440 and it was an improvement.
The only problem i've had is that afer two years both hinges broke, now 6 zip ties are what are holding them together XD
6 zip ties holding it together for a year? lol thats what you call getting your monies worth, good going.
@@WheezyTechim probably gonna replace them soon, maybe a k361 or a takstar pro 82, or is there any other sub-100 dollar closed back that would you recommend?
I'm yet to try the Takstar Pro 82, seems theres 2 versions so I'm tempted to pick up a pair of each for review. For £50 they seem like great value. If you were happy with the M40x and you already have upgraded pads you can use you could just get another one. I'm not especially a fan of them, I much prefer the DT 770 Pro but its hard to argue with the price. There is the MSR7 if you want a more fancy Audio-Technica but I dont know if its worth it over the M40x especially if you already have upgrades for that. The K361 is a good choice if you are looking for something a little more neutral, I'd probably take a K361 over the M40x but actually I'd spend the extra on the K371 myself. Theres also the Beyer Custom One Pro or even better the Custom Studio but I think thats out of that price range.
@@WheezyTech The k371 aren't available where i live, and the dt 770 and msr7 are out of my budget :/
I dont want to buy the same headphones again (even if i liked them) because i wanna try new things, maybe i'll go with k361 as i'm not that much of a bass head and recently i've started to listen to more acoustic and vocal based music
@@erikalfa45 did you get the k361? What'd you think about it?
Yea, Noel's right, the sound of the m40x is nowhere close to how so many people have described them.
The marketing blurb from audio technica says they are tuned flat for accurate frequency response. Nope , they have elevated bass and a couple of treble peaks that makes the treble sound sharp. I think it's clean treble but still pretty sharp.
I've owned them now for 5 years and I like them as a fun headphone even though the bass is a little thick or fatty.
I'm not knocking them, just saying , don't believe the descriptions of sound you may have heard
I had it, loved it, but the hinge cracked and I threw them away because I was so pissed. I regret that, I should have tried harder to repair it.
Hey @Wheezy Tech, I’m a sub and I really like your content.I really need your opinion because I don’t have so much to spend. I play the drums and for sessions i have always used the M40s that the studio provides for tracking and recording. But now I’ve moved to a new city and I’m building my own home studio, I have got everything from the mics to the sound mixer but I’m really contemplating on the headphones. Because a lot of people hype the AT 40s but I’ve been seeing really good reviews on the K 371s and I find that it’s one of the most underrated headphones in the same price range and it comes with a few more features compared to the M 40s. But could you please tell me which headphones is more promising for the sound?
Again you do really good work here and I really appreciate this channel.
Are they good enough for mastering ???
What should I apply to the earpads of these to avoid dry rot please?
Do you have any headphone recommendation for music production / studio monitor at the same price range of the m40x or m50x? I'm planning to use it in my home studio from music production to mixing and mastering. Thanks!
My personal choice, as a total amateur so its just my opinion. I'd use any half decent closed back as a monitor, great choices are AKG K371 and K361, Beyerdynamic DT770Pro, as well as Sony MDR7506, Audio-Technica M50/40 for tracking and when you need isolation. The K371 is probably the most "neutral" from a production standpoint. The DT770 the most comfortable. The MDR7506 has a rather forward sound sig that can bring your vocals forward so you can hear yourself better when tracking but its not accurate for making mix decisions on it. M50/40 are good, better built alternatives to the MDR7506 but pricier.
And then for mixing and mastering I'd alternate between speakers and an open backed headphone like the Sennheiser HD560S, HD650/6XX or Hifiman Sundara.
I realise all this is more than you asked for, so to answer your question more specifically. Probably the AKG K371, it's not the most well built headphone but its very well tuned, very detailed, easy to drive from an audio interface and a great all rounder in general. Basically perfect for what you want.
@@WheezyTech Thank you so much for the detailed response. I appreciate this bigtime. Your thoughts on AKG K92? This is what I have so far. Is it worth the change to the K371 or should I just stick with the K92?
@@ChrisFoxPH I have not heard the K92 but I have heard the K371 and I've seen the frequency response graph of the K92. But with that info I'd say yes the K371 is an upgrade.
Hey bro I know your probably not gonna see this comment but worth a shot..these headphones and the scarlett hp60 MkIII are selling for the same price on my facebook marketplace for $100 NZD, what would be the better purchase out of the two for producing at a beginner to intermediate level?
i find for me mixing with these mixing and mastering i need that bass i start from the grand up sound wise for me it's not muddy also, I don't find them uncomfortable to wear for me i do use this for mastering and mixing i guess i am just a bass type guy and they work fine for me i have tried some that cost more and don't work for me and same say there is more bass but i can't hear it like i do in the 40x any way good video
Watching this video while using the ath m40x on my phone. by the way i want to use it on my computer usb port.since my pc 3.5mm port is not working, Does using a 3.5mm to usb sound card would affect the sound quality? Thank you
one weird thing about these is that for me they were really harsh with lack of bass on my pc, but more or less fine on my phone. really dont know why. no other headphone had that kinda behaviour.
I think it has to do with your PC's dac and your phone's dac
As a long time Grado fan I finally decided to get the M40X after the 2nd failure of the cables in the SR125. I thought they would be better constructed and liked the removable cable. But they lasted only about a year because the plastic broke at the hinge he talks about in the video. It turned out to be a good thng because I was never satisfied withe sound of the M40X. The treble seemed too dominant, mostly because the midrage was much weaker than I like. I sent the Grados back to get the cable replaced and they put a more sturdy one on it. Now I'm much happier because the sound I love is back.
The cable connector is the same on the m40x upwards and you can buy official cables and pads off amazon for about a tenner each
This is true, you could buy the 1.2m straight cable for ~£20 if you wanted to. You could also buy replacement original earpads, but I don't know why anyone would unless they are some kind of masochist that actually likes the originals :p Its quite common for people to instead buy the HM5 pads because they are much more comfortable. If you were to buy a 1.2m cable and a set of pleather HM5 pads you'd be looking at somewhere around £50 which is almost as much as the M40x already. And people online are often buying the angled sheepskin ones which are like £40 for the pair youre looking at £130+ at that point. Theres so much better out there for that money :)
@@WheezyTech to be fair the pads change the tone
@@antyvirusuk8056 Yeah they do quite considerably, I did cover that in the review. This headphone doesn't make sense for a lot of people, it's not neutral so there's no point buying it for that, it's not comfortable so it doesn't please for casual use without adding third party earpads which further colour the sound and increase the price. IMO there's really no point to this headphone unless you specifically are looking for a ~£70 headphone for monitoring audio.
@@WheezyTech i've heard the AKG K371 is meant to be insanely good
@@antyvirusuk8056 yes K371 is really good, I'm very impressed so far. It's not perfect but what is. I've been working on my review for that all afternoon. Will be up next week.
After listening to a few sound demos of the M40X's I just couldn't see what the hype was about?
Idk, i get them because they're the cheapest and good few options for a closed back budget other than the sony mdr 7506 or the shure srh440
What do you recommend for $ 100, for casual use, day to day, music, movies, etc.?
Thats easy, the DT770 Pro. Because its super comfortable, built like a tank and has really good quality sound. It might not be the best for listening to music because it has a lot of treble energy. But for movies, TV, games and general day to day use, its my go to headphone.
@@WheezyTech thanks
Spooky, I just got a pair of these used and was unimpressed by the sound. I went on TH-cam to see if there was anything I should know about them and here you are, saying all the things I was thinking (sibilant treble and boomy bass). I think for everyday listening I prefer my $30 Monoprice DJ headphones. I got them to use as monitors, so I'll try them and hopefully they at least work OK in that capacity.
I dont think they make bad monitors, as long as you arent expecting to hear a particularly accurate sound whilst monitoring. I think depending on what youre recording, that pretty much any headphone can work as a monitor as long as it doesnt leak sound into whatever it is that youre recording. But for casual listening this headphone is way over hyped.
will you be doing DT 770 Pro review soon?
Its on my list to do, probably in January
I tried M50x for a short time, and i couldn't stand them. Very sharp sibilant peak. I kind of get the impression that many headphone reviewers/users who hype these things have a pronounced case of... hearing damage. I also didn't prefer the Presonus Studio HD7, which appears to be manufactured by Superlux Taiwan and identical to something like HD681. Sharp piercing sibilant sound.
What i'm wearing right now are Yoga CD-68, 40mm over-ears that i got for 20€ at a local musician store, rebranded to their house brand. They also pop up as Monacor MD-480, TDK (Europe) Classic DJ (not actually suitable for DJing, they're pretty leaky from outside in), and a number of other brands, some of them much more expensive. The differences extend to the cable quality, headband foam, colour of various bits, and pads, but people who have several different ones say they all sound the same. I fell in love with the sound the second i tried them at the store, just how inoffensive it is. The comfort... can be diabolical though. They can be bent to shape, but... well. Do you think you'd like to try finding a pair and give them a shot?
RAA site has measured them twice, once as Brainwavz HM3 and once as Fisher Audio FA-004. Trying to apply AutoEQ in EqualizerAPO with either measurement tells me that the HM3 measurement is bonkers wrong, and the FA measurement is more close, but still a bit weird. There's are for sure spurious traits in the measurement. Compensating diffraction of measurement head against my ears simply makes no sense.
Am I right in assuming the M40x is a bit better than M30x? How are these two compared to AKG K 361?
I want to know the same, I don´t know if I should buy the m40x or the K361...
@@coldbass320 I bought the K361. Best decision of my life. Your ears will thank you for how good the sound is and how comfy it is.
@@saivikas9580 Oh wow, thank you!!
try out the cooler master mh751
They need hm5 pads for the good sound stage
No soundstage in both 40 & 50 😢
Beyerdynamic DT770 is preferred for more enjoyable music listening ❤
I don't understand why someone would think these are flat. No sub bass, boosted high bass and 2 murderous peaks at 10&15k.
That's...odd? I wouldn't at all describe my m40xs as sibilant or bassy. The direct opposite.
Granted, I've got those big ol angled sheepskin pads on them. I'd think people are just assuming you'd be replacing those godawful stock ones. Pulled them out to double check here and- yeah, they're practically anemic compared to my other stuff.
If anything, they genuinely do sound flat compared to my beyers. Especially the customs.
Wouldn't really recommend these nowadays anyway. Plenty of options available for about the same cost that sound better.
I thought flat was what We need?
Awesome
Cheap closed headphones with nice bassy sound that you need to change pads on, I recommend the Superlux 669. Wonder how many have tried it. Cheaper than M40x for sure.
So many people say how good the Superlux stuff is for the price, I'm gonna have to pick up a few of them
It's just bloody uncomfortable, clamps strongly, even with the pads I chose (Misodiko), but at least it's got reasonable isolation, and the sound is worth it.
What do you recommend then? I’m about to replace my RS175 and I’m looking for the best audio quality for around 150 pounds.
AKG K371, they are tuned to the harmon response which a lot of people agree is the most nutral response. However there was a supply and demmand quality control issue but if you are patient and don't mind returning for a new pair they are great
@@antyvirusuk8056 Ended up with the HD 599, they were on sale :)
@@TheMeryn very different style of headphone but one i really do reccomend
These headphones have the most perfect reproduction ive ever heard. Just listening to source audio clips versus other headphones near the same price point makes them seem leagues above the others
I can agree on the general characteristics of the sound.... Just tested briefly M40x and M50x when I bought my M50x. The M40 sounded more avarage pair and less detailed. On the other hand the details I could hear on M50x just blew my mind. My first decent headphones ever. Before judging me to go on hype I did test few others including DT770... :D Also wanted good isolation from the world surrounding me which these cans do provide. I am also a bit allergic to "soundstage" since it feels to me that music gets colored and less punchy/detailed. I hope I got my terms correct :D
what is better akg k361 or m40x for listening to music
Probably the 361 (From what I've read) and as an owner of M40x just try to stay away from them, incredibly uncomfortable for my ears and head. The sound is alright, though it feels 2-dimensional and sounds pretty closed in. I ordered the 361's just today so I'm fairly excited and those are considered as the new M40X practically, heard they sound wider and have better bass clarity. If I were you just go with the K361
@@als6164 i think that i am not going for the m40x. I am looking for another one new. I am thinking of sivga 006 because it is natural like the 361 one's
@@als6164 how has ur 361 been?
Am I the onlyone going Bonkers with that Rattling background noise?
Is the 770 flat and good for mixing?
i never had a very good mix with my dt770 ........
@@ChrisBessy then what do you prefer AtH M40 or DT990
I was going to get the M40X after watching this probably gonna get something else. What can you recommend me for 100$ dollars?
K361 if you are looking for a more neutral sound
@@WheezyTech sadly all of those other options over the ath m40x are a lot more expensive in my country, i haven't found a good alternative in the same price range. i think that is part of why there is a lot of hype.
@@WheezyTech different country different prices, the k361/k371 were being priced the same as the m50x but a little bit expensive , while the m40x on the other hand was 72$ more cheaper so should i go for the m40x instead? Ive got an aftermarket pads for only 6.5$ from a local brand
m40x or k371 ???
K371
I disagree. There is a TH-cam binaural review where m50x is clearly bass coloured headphone whereas m40x was the closest to the source among m20 to m50x series
Have both and id take m40x any day, even tho the build quality is kinda mediocre on m40x. For gaming the m50x is terrible, has basically no soundstage.
Also had the dt 770s (80ohm) model which sound worse than any of the audio technicas. Unless you only care about sub bass and bright highs. If you like vocals, female vocals specially the beyerdynamics are terible.
M40x has no soundstage either. The DT770 has better build, more detail, and actually has soundstage. You're entitled to prefer the M40x tho. You do you.
@@WheezyTech imo in gaming the soundstage is bit better than m50xs.
And i can agree with the dt770 points, specially the build quality and soundstage is really good. Only thing i didn't like on those were the mids, specially the upper mids and lower treble where female vocals usually land.
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your mic has a buzzing sound . listen closely
Yeah I fixed that now. It was a noisy switching power supply bleeding interference into the XLR cable
not being bias at all the m40x is better than the m50x lol
In your opinion
Most definitely. I have both and the m50xs have no soundstage, worse upper mids (female vocals), lower sub bass and a bit higher treble.
Also the m40xs sound a lot better if you swap the pads for hm5 pads for example. The same cant be said for the m50x, those soundsignature changes a lot when you change the pads to hm5 ones.
You're entitled to your opinion but the M40x has no soundstage either the M50x has *measurably* more sub-bass, the M40x more mid-bass. Both have a peaky treble but with the M50x perhaps having slightly higher peaks. HM5 pads increase soundstage on both models, ruin the sound on the M50x and make the M40x ok I suppose. *Measurably* makes the M40x more v-shaped, more sub-bass and higher treble peaks. Funnily enough, more like an M50x. So yeah if you want a comfortable M50x with soundstage. But an M40x with HM5 pads. You do you.
why people that produce video about pro-audio equipment have the most problems with having good mic quality uff... this little bee in the backgroundsound makes me so nervous xD
Hd25’s... that is all 🙂
Youre obsessed with those cans :p
Is the clamp worth the sound?
Rubbish.. this pair of headphones is exceptional..
In your opinion. I could say your opinion is "Rubbish" who is correct? I'd say check your attitude at the door.
@@WheezyTech I am sorry. My language was inappropriate. I apologize. But I believe their sound is crystal clear. Take care.
There's a static noise in your video
what you said about m40x is not true smh
Its exactly true