Could the World's OLDEST Coaster Be Forced to Move? Buy or Sell, Episode 27
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- It's time for Buy or Sell Episode 27, where I respond to your theories and predictions for the theme park world.
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Buy or sell: vekoma will win the family coaster race that all the manufacturers are trying to get into.
Big bear 🅱️ountain was a huge hit so I'd agree
Buy or sell you ask a question that's already been asked
The only thing is that they're quite expensive.
I’m buying
This was a buy for like 10-20 years thanks to Disney😂 but even now. Easy buy
Buy or sell: magic mountain will eventually give viper a retrack like Loch Ness monster is receiving instead of removing it
Buy: Viper is a classic, & the last of it's breed. Like Leap The Dips, If SFMM hints at its removal there will be a public outcry to save it. Me being one of them!
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@@pinball541 the GP HAAAAATE viper. I ride it all the time and more often than not I overhear people say they will never ride it again. Makes me sad that it's in it's twilight years.
@@doug8381 well they also could smooth out a few of the janky parts too
Sell: there’s little deep affection for viper as a ride outside of a small percentage of enthusiasts, and a new coaster would be much more valuable to SFMM than
Buy or Sell- the new Six Flags + Cedar Fair chain moves at least one Six Flags coaster to a Cedar Fair park or vice versa
Buy or Sell: Lighting Rod's new chainlift will make the coaster drop massively in your rankings
The top speed won't be changed so it will probably only drop 1-3 spots
the launch is part of the ride, it’s gonna drop at least 15 spots
@EnzoDiscoveryMoonLight23 oh sure a mediocre launch will make it drop over 15 spots
Sell, but idkkk
Buy or sell: Kings Island relocates Invertigo or completely removes it as well as Congo Falls to make a new entrance. Something like Cedar Point or Carowinds
Buy or Sell: RMC will build a coaster taller than 220ft in the next 10 years.
Buy honestly and I usually sell any rmc predictions 😂
Buy or Sell: The new Cedar Fair will build a Mack Hyper by 2030.
I would sell since theyre probably gonna work on finances first, but I can totally see them building something like this in the future. I just dont think it will come in six years
Mattel Adventure Park is hopefully going to be huge for Arizona. I can’t believe we didn’t have an indoor amusement park already. There’s a real lack of things to do during the summer, and the summers just keep getting longer. I think it’ll basically print money and hopefully pave the way for even more parks.
Buy or Sell: the new Six Flags. Sells off or spins off the tier 2 Six flags/Cedar Fair parks, to focus on the Tier 1 and lower end parks to enhance the overall budget
Buy or sell:If Magic Mountain announces a new coaster in 2024 or 2025, it won’t have anything to do with Golden Bear theater
Buy. Mostly cuz they wont get a new coaster in these years
Buy or sell: The Six Flags and Cedar Fair merger wont go through. This is my favourite series, please never stop making these!
Why not though?
Im gonna sell cuz Idk what reasons there are for it to fall thru
Leap the dips is a quaint coaster. If word got out that they were going to tear it down. I think money would come to the rescue. If they found a good location, Idlewild would be a perfect park to relocate.
Really curious to see how Lakemont pulls out of the tailspin, and if their operational and insurance and maintenance costs get too high and they decide to operate without rides, thats where a relocation effort can come in
As someone who has idlewild as a home park, they would treat it horribly. Palace Entertainment hasn't added a single ride there in their over 15 years of owning the park, and they've only lost a ride every year
@@SkyrushFanboyWow, Thank you for this info. I thought the owners of Kennywood took over the park and did some upkeep. I guess not. I never got to ride the wild mouse :(....
@@rbebut1they did when Kennywood was family owned they took good care of idlewild even if a lot of its rides were hand me downs they were at least investing in the park, unlike palace who done nothing with that park and have only removed things basically, Thankfully they have tragedy Kennywood Decently well, and I would say Kennywood is in one of its best places it’s been, so at least there taking care of Kennywood, but I do feel bad for idlewild. Idlewild’s Wild Mouse Still exists!
I would say Knoebels or Delgrossos would be better homes for Leap the Deeps. Idlewild hasn’t been great with expansion or preserving classic attractions.
Buy or Sell: If Arrow never went out of business, it would've been one of the top manufactures.
I don't want to think about this
well buy durr
Buy Or Sell: As a result of Universal UK, Merlin invests more into Legoland Windsor
Tbh I think I'd buy that, but add the rest of all their parks as well
Buy, for all their parks
Buy or sell: another park will collaborate with a sports team and build a roller coaster themed to them.
I could weirdly see Kings Island doing something with the Cincinnati Reds specifically. They have a lot of the same sponsors and vendors, and both have been such a historic part of the city it's hard to not picture either of them there.
@ellhil12 "Cincinnati Curtain"
Buy!
Buy or sell: The B&M flyer slowly dies out.
That kinda already happened......
Buy cuz its literally almosy dead anyway
@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3odheah exactly
Buy or Sell: Kings Island's Vortex replacement will be a Mack Stryker coaster or other unique Mack Launch Coaster
Buy or Sell Demon at Six Flags Great America will be the second arrow looper to get a restoration
Literally praying
Buy or sell, kings island moves in vertigo to valleyfair/ michigans adventure to make for their next big coaster
sell, unless they they take out congo falls and drop tower as well, that foorprint is too small on its own
@@ajmentel2453 fair enough
I would sell but I like this one. Kings island has way better plots of land all over the park (that are extremely overhyped, but still)
Buy or sell: Six Flags Great America finally gets a stand out roller coaster for their 50th anniversary
🤞since it’s my home park i really hope so
Buy or sell: MonteZOOMa: The Forbidden Fortress will be a major success
BUY: The company that is able to save Montezooma will be a hero. They were able to save what Kumbak almost single handily destroyed!
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Buy or sell: In the future, Energylandia will begin to focus on redesigning areas at the front of the park as opposed to adding new areas.
Buy or sell: Skyrush will still have the same ridership after its new seats and restraints; people will continue to avoid it because of its intensity.
no cause its more comfortable. alot of people avoid just because of the thigh crushers
@@terg8472 I agree with that, but I’d say they go hand in hand. I’d argue that more people avoid it because it’s too intense as opposed to people avoiding it because it’s uncomfortable. Like the I305 effect.
They fixed the one issue people complained about and made a fairly big deal about it. I don’t see why it wouldn’t improve ridership, at least a little.
Ngl I don't think GP really care about restraints they probably liked skyrush's old restraints more than the new age in canon restraint
@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od The only complaint I’ve ever heard from my friends are the restraints lol.
By or sell: Another Mack Xtreme spinner is purchased by 2030
Buy or Sell: Launch chains are going to become more popular in time, like with Lightning Rod or Tornado
I would sell xuz its more moving physical parts and LSMs will only get cheaper and brtter. Thats why cable lifts arent used anymore
I think the new Six Flags would def 100% work with RMC due to the close ties Six Flags had with RMC, but we shall see!
Buy Or Sell: The Vekoma junior coasters at Holiday World and King's Island will start a revolution in new gen Vekoma rides
I really think Knoebels can benefit with acquiring Leap the Dips. I think Leap the Dips would be a great fit for that park. However, living in PA and not visiting Leap the Dips ever. Shame on me. I was planning on riding it this year, but looks like that won't happen. I hope you're right and Lakemont figures it out in the next few years. I Definitely want to ride this
I'm with you on the Knoebels idea. They kinda have the perfect recipe to keep it alive. Maintenance staff familiar with antique rides and one-of-a-kind wooden roller coasters, a well attended park with tons of charm, an excellent relationship with the ACE and enthusiast community and a desire to keep the historic charm of rides alive. I don't think it will happen because I think the priority is #1 save the park, #2 lease the land and save the coaster, #3 wait a few years and hope things change. But if Lakemont starts talking about tearing it down, I could definitely see Knoebels at the top of the list for relocation.
@@LameMoviesInc I agree wholeheartedly with this comment!
I fully agree with both of you. I couldn't think of another park that has the prowess and love to take care of a ride like Leap the Dips.
As I live near knoebles I'm just thinking what the gp would say about it.
It makes sense because it would fit so well in the park, just not sure it makes sense realistically
Buy or sell: The Donkey Kong coaster at Epic Universe will be gimmicky
Buy Or Sell: With The lower tier Cedar Fair Parks getting new coasters, Michigan's Adventure will get a small scale addition
Buy or sell: Montezooma’s revenge will be the last standing schwarzkopf because of its renovation
I’d sell the Leap the Dips moving idea, but not, as you argued, because I think Lakemont will get it together (I don’t think the president even has an interest in reviving the coaster). I am selling the idea that it would move because no other park would find it an asset to pay for a coaster that will only be a permanent practical and economic nightmare for them. I can't see any park, large or small, turning a profit on the acquisition.
You never know if there's one crazy owner out there that would do it just for kicks, or if they believe they can market it as the world's oldest coaster and draw a crowd. Stranger things have happened
@@AirtimeThrills I hope so. As I am desperate for the coaster to be saved however it happens.
Knoebels has to be licking their chops right now. Taking in antique rides is kind of their thing. Not like they haven't relocated an entire coaster board by board before...
Buy or Sell: Assuming the Sixflags Cedar Fair merger goes through and bobcat is a success, we will eventually see the gravity group shuttle coaster at Dorney or some other smaller park.
Cedar point Fiesta texas great adventure and over Georgia all need another woodie so buy:
Buy or Sell: With the Six Flags - Cedar fair merger they will give Kingda Ka and Xcelerator the dragster treatment within 5 years
Energylandia definitely needs a slowdown in expansion. I've always thought they were spreading themselves too thin too fast. They should take a break and start in a few years with some new flat/thrill rides before going to another coaster. Also it will give them time to build an audience.
Nothing wrong with family coasters. They're always good adds to a park. And the new ones look pretty fun and exciting. I think a lot of the new ones are good moves and much less expensive than a new BnM.
Buy Or Sell: Skyline Attractions becomes defunct by 2030
Only time will tell. There is a chance that the P'Sghetti Bowl aka the Kid Flash coasters will be their best selling model
Buy or Sell: In the next 10 years Kings Island will get rid of Invertigo, Congo Falls, and the Timberwolf Amphitheatre to make way for a new coaster and also retheme the area to a campy monster/eldritch horror theme.
buy or sell: RMC will redo an aging steel coaster like how Morgan redid Steel Phantom
Buy or sell: in like few years silver dollar city will redo either the flooded mine or the American Plunge. It seems like the park wants to improve on older rides currently and I see that continuing.
Buy or Sell: a major theme park in the US will install a Mack Styker Coaster in the next 7 years because of Voltrons success
Sea World targeting SFDK would make sense knowing the later’s former history as Marine World. What could be a wrench in this is the ongoing ordeal with CGA. If Santa Clara manages to keep the park in place and looks for a more ideal owner after Cedar did the city dirty, maybe Sea World considers that as an option instead
Buy or Sell: The opening of Hyperia at Thorpe Park sparks a mini coaster wars in the UK with the fear of Universal on the horizon
Buy or sell (wild take): American Eagle at Six Flags Great America will get torn down in favor of a large scale Mobius Loop Coaster
Buy or Sell: if the flash is successful at six flags great adventure, magic mountain will add a next gen vekoma in the place of the golden bear theatre.
Buy or sell: with the cedar fair and six flags merge the new six flags will sell a lot of the chains smaller propertys. also Seaworld (United parks) with buy some of them and turn them into to bigger parks like the bush gardens parks.
Herschend actually built and used to run white water in atlanta before they sold it to six flags. So they have sold at least one property.
Buy or sell: Hershey will get rid of their Wild Mouse coaster by the end of 2025
Hershed did have a lease for Darien Lake, but I don't think they didn't willingly lost it
I miss herschend at Darien Lake, they did a lot to the park in the few years that they were there by retheming 2 areas of the park and adding rides to those areas.
Buy or Sell: Six Flags gives a brand new coaster to Six Flags America as it's turning 50 soon which will cause a spike in popularity, leading to more new investments.
I think RMC Roar is the most realistic option for America (other than like another family coaster since they need another one
Buy or Sell: At least 1 State with less than 5 coasters will get a somewhat major addition sometime within the next 10 years
Buy or sell: there will never be a t-Rex coaster by RMC
Buy or sell: Jaguar at Knotts berry farm will be removed in the next 5 years due to its age
Buy or sell:
Oregon's oaks park will get one of if not the first RMC wild moose coasters
(I've seen evidence online that they were considering it, and a local proposed a custom layout to showcase that they do have the space)
Buy or sell: Carowinds next coaster would be a B&M wing coaster due to project sparrow
Buy or sell, aside from B and M the next manufacturer to build a giga will be Mack
BUY OR SELL: Six Flags Great America, in addition to getting a new coaster, will refurbish either or both the American Eagle and Demon for the park's 50th anniversary
Buy or sell: with the Six Flags/Cedar Fair merger, the combined Six Flags salvages what it can from CGA's Demon and ships the parts to Gurnee, IL.
Buy or sell: Some cedar fair parks like Michigan’s adventure will not make it with the merger
Buy or sell: After Falcon's Flight, we will see another roller coaster with a downhill launch by 2030.
Buy or sell: Toon Lagoon at Island’s of Adventure will be rethemed to SpongeBob SquarePants or another aquatic theme.
Buy or sell:
Railblazer goes to Kings Island in the Vortex plot
Well you answered my question in your video.
Buy or Sell, after the Montezooma refurb Knotts will shut down Xcelerator and redo the launch.
Sell: Knott's spent the last 2 years getting Xcelerator up & running again!
Just my opinion though!
Buy Or Sell: Once Falcons Flight opens, the US will never have the fastest, longest, or biggest drop ever again
After reading "Kings Island: A Ride Through Time" (written/originally published in 2021), it mentioned that Kings Island wants to work on their kids area and water park. Because we got the kids area update in 2024, I assume the water park will come in 2025 and the next major coaster in 2026. But Kings Island is my home park, so I can always hope for 2025
KI is my home park, and I am hoping that we get something from Vekoma, Mack Rides, or RMC within the next few years
That seems logical
Buy or sell: Cedar fair parks with the merger will put dc themes on unpopular rides like Invertigo, or rougarou
Buy or sell: SFNE gets a super boomerang on the flashback and Goliath plots
Buy or Sell: the shuttle loop at Niagara amusement park will open eventually
Buy or sell: Kentucky Kingdom gets a Vekoma STC to replace T3
buy or sell: seaworld will pick up six flags st louis on a discount and it will be busch gardens st louis or something since the anheiser busch brewery is located there.
But or sell: full throttle will expand into the golden bear theater area at magic mountain
Buy or sell: After the merger, Six Flags Over Georgia institutes a chaperone policy.
It shouldn’t be just SFOG, it should be at all parks in the SF chain.
United Parks getting Darien Lake would be the best possible thing for that park. I don't think it will happen, but It would probably be a massive boost for the park.
Buy or sell:The next axis coaster goes to a Merlin park
Buy or Sell: with rmc and Sfmm making hints, Sfmm will get the 1st RMC giga (t-Rex) within a couple years, most likely for the 2025 season,with the competition from Universal
The RMC T-Rex isn't happening anytime soon. They could get Energylandia's canceled Vekoma Tilt coaster if SF bought it. We've seen it for both Flash and Georgia Surfer
I politely disagree@@edt-ze3ke
Very hard sell. RMC hints are just a joke. SFMM’s PR is also just fucking with us. RMC T-Rex is not coming anywhere any time soon. Its not even on RMCs website. Parks dont have a reason to get it- especially SFMM, who already have a single rail. Absolutely no way this happens, in my opinion.
@@edt-ze3keI can see that with the tilt coaster, assuming theres space!
I didnt know that about the GA surfer and Flash (but Im glad abt the former lol). Whats the story behind that?
@@huntzzio Georgia Surfer was supposed to Vietnam but I couldn’t find the park that was gonna get Flash before SF buying it as a last minute decision for GAdv’s 50th anniversary and also Georgia Surfer so SFOG can reveal it at their Coaster Fest presentation
But or sell: Busch gardens Williamsburg will come down with new rides
I cant believe i made it thank you
Great video! I'd love to see Kings Island get a new coaster in 2026!
Buy or sell: Kentucky Kingdom will get the first Steeplechase model from S&S.
Buy or sell: skyrush’s new restraints will make it a worldwide elite coaster and airtime thrills second favorite at Hersheypark
Buy or Sell: Canadas Wonderland builds a launched sit down coaster instead of a launched wing coaster.
Buy or sell: Nighthawk becomes an ACE landmark eventually for being the first ever flying coaster
skytrak at granada studios would like a word
Buy: because I'm surprised it hasn't already happened
Buy or sell: with the family coaster craze, more family flat rides will be built
Buy or sell: given the end of the Earnhardt deal, i305 will be given a jungle retheme
That’s definitely possible
What is your username 💀
Buy Or Sell: Airtime Thrills goes back to Denmark to ride Fonix
Buy or sell: you will mention Montezuma's revenge in at least 3 more episodes
Thank you for pronouncing my name correctly! 😁
Buy or sell six flags will build another B&M dive coaster in the next couple of years
SFMM, SFOG, and SFGAm could all use a B&M Dive in their lineup besides Fiesta being the only one to have it so far
buy or sell, kings island and carrowinds both get intamin blitz coasters by 2030
Buy or Sell: Herschend tries to scoop up CF/SF lower tier parks like Michigan Adventure, Worlds of fun as the new company focuses on their main flagships.
Buy or Sell - Michigan's Adventure's prayers will finally be answered with a new B&M Dive or Vakoma Family Boomerang (or at least a new paint job for the family bathroom)
I do agree with you on the wooden hyper. As an Ohio boy, I'd always hoped someone would try and do what Kings Island had envisioned with Son of Beast in Earnest. Maintenance would be HORRIFIC, but damn.... thinking about a hyper woodie made by GCI that runs as smooth as Mystic Timbers....
Anyway, thanks for the shout out!
Buy or sell with the completion of the merger six flags brings back the ride rotation program in some sort of way
Sell: The ride rotation program was a disaster for Six Flags, & it destroyed a smooth running coaster everytime it was dismantled!
@@pinball541 the way they did it the 1st time was bad but if they put some thought into it I think it can benefit the smaller parks that will probably get less investment then they have already
Buy or Sell: Universal UK becomes the best attended theme park in the UK within 2 years of opening.
Buy or sell: at least one of the former cedar fair parks gets a new rmc by 2030
Buy or sell: Valley fair will get a near clone of iron menace in 2025
Buy or sell: Hersheypark will get a B&M wing coaster in the next 10 years
Buy or sell: SeaWorld will buy another RMC by 2030 for one of their parks.
Buy or sell: big bear 🅱️ountain's success spawns more vekoma family launches in America
Buy or Sell: Now that Marineland is starting to cease operations, and the Six Flags Cedar Fair merger is well underway, Herschend could buy Marineland and refurbish the entire park to start some competition in Canada and also "save" the park.