Wagon Tracks from the 1800's Still Exist!
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- Wagon tracks worn into the rock are a look back in time from the 1800's. - Penitente Canyon
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As a builder in Texas back in the early 90’s I remodeled an old 1800’s house near Bandera, Tx that was a stagecoach stop. You can still see the old wagon ruts going off in 2 different directions.
Thats awesome i live in new england so theyre way more common here but texas was settled very early by the spanish so you coukd prolly fibd even older ones...when we got my house we cleared the backyard and found an old track set down to the lake for carriages
How fascinating!
I hope as a builder you are also a preservationist. These treasures into our past can never be replaced .
I had a freind, dead now, but his in laws lived in what is a stagecoach stop in Spartanburg. SC. Their old store had a mill stone in it and we found old relics of shoes that the store sold. Ladies shoes that button up the side, men's as well..
That was in the early 80s.
1980s that is outside of Woodruff, SC.
Wish I could have used Antal detector around their homestead there.
It's the old " WORKMAN " place between Spartanburg and Woodruff.
The pioneers were badass! My, how we’ve devolved.
'Evolved'.
Yep
And they probably never complained how bad it sucked.
You don't know, what you don't know.
I imagine someone asking an old pioneer how they got to California and they say, I walked.
@@alfandeddie It was like, 'Little House on the Prairie.' They set up camps along the way. They used their wagons as a home. Their wagons were FULL of food and clothes. Alot of times they walked along-side the wagons because the wagons were ruff and shaking. Model-T cars did the same thing.
Brother. While my daughter would do a five day chemo week at the hospital, I would spend the night with her, and just go through your videos. I truly appreciate them all. Incredible Chanel! 🙏🏽.
I hope she is well.
I hope you guys are doing well specially your daughter
Sending lots of peace and positive energy to you and your daughter
May the good lord keep his hand on your daughter and you
In the name of Jesus you're baby girl is going to be good. God bless you and your family.
I remember many years ago, flying from one coast to the other, the pilot pointed out the wagon ruts of the Oregon Trail. Amazing that you could see them from the air!
I may have been your airline pilot! I flew for Ozark Air Lines from 1978 to 1986. I used to make PA’s to the passengers, pointing out visible parts of the trail, in western Missouri, Kansas and Nebraska.
How in the heck did you know this even existed? Thank you for showing me a piece of history I never dreamed would still exist.
I remember learning about this in grade school
Right? I've lived in Colorado about 55 years and never knew about the trails
You can also find them in High rock canyon, northern Nevada.
Check Oregon trail ruts in wyoming
@@swampdonkey1517 Yes, there's a great section of ruts on the Oregon trail in Guernsey, Wyoming!
So hard to imagine just how tough and determined these folks were. Awesome video and thanks for sharing.
There are alot of unmarked graves along many of these trails of those who did not survive the trail. Young and old.
Wow Interesting, that's a good point.
@@MorticiaAdams.. really just common sense
@@asmodeus1274 I think she was just making conversation and did not require your smartass comment! You are probably lacking in intelligence or "common sense".
I can’t even begin to imagine how many. The use of this trail goes clear back to at least the 1700’s when they were search for gold. It’s crazy.
I piss on those graves. They deserve nothing but my disrespect and urine.
Salute to those that made this trek back in the day. That had to be tough.
It killed many, many people.
We have no real idea.
@Cha Man I’m glad you gave yourself a thumbs up too
@Cha Man You're a real keyboard badass!
Especially if you were traveling from the east coast to the west coast. It wouldn't take you a few days...it would take you a few decades. And since the average life expectancy back then was around 40 years old, chances were pretty good that you'd die enroute.
@@centuryrox That was due to child mortality not adults dying early
I was metal detecting around 2 sets of wagon trails deep in the woods of NC. They dated back to the 1800s. Me and my buddies found several civil war buttons and us matron head large cent and 2 cent piece
There are trees in the sierras that are scarred from rope burns where the settlers pulled their wagons up. Seeing them gives you chills.
Very cool.
Seeing how steep some of the paths were I was wondering. Thanks. Peace from Canada.
Wow, I have always wanted to see some of these trails. My travels have always been up and down the east coast but I'm determined to explore further West some day, God willing.
Donner pass?
@@jenn8286 Carson Pass.
Wagon ruts and any traces of the Old West are fascinating and really grab your attention. Excellent video🌅
The Oregon Trail is very near where I live; I love going there and imagining what it would have been like to stand there 170 years ago. when the pioneers were passing through. The trail/road is still very visible.
+Ragemutt
170 isn't long in the big scheme of things but look at the progress man has made since then! The biggest advance in science and technology out of any 170 year period EVER. The scope of that is staggering. Staggers ME anyway! *grin!*
@Chuck Blankenship So Chuck, explain how that cheery message ties in to an admiration for history. You another home grown prophet predicting doom? People have been going on with that stuff for millenia...yet on mankind trudges. Do you have a date for us? A rough estimate will do.
When I travel around the Mojave Desert and Death Valley, I trip out imagining early pioneers treking through the heat.
@Mustang .308 Settle down.
@Mustang .308 Whew...Seems I innocently stumbled into 'taterville.
These marks really make me realize how blessed we are because our forefathers never gave up!
Scotts Bluff, NE famously has tracks from the wagons passing. Plus, old graffiti (names/dates carved into the rock) is there to see as well. Pretty cool
Very cool! The museum at the base of the bluff is great!
I was visiting an old sugarbeet farmer over in Marsing Idaho one time and he took my wife my daughter and I to a spot nearby and showed us ruts that were part of the Oregon Trail. He was a fascinating old guy and really knew lots of Idaho history👍🏻
Did he show you a patato?
Such Harder Times Back Then, But Also Such BETTER TIMES. When a man or family could actually feel and breath FREEDOM in the air.🤠👍
Amen
Ya if you got sick you died. No anesthesia Average life span was 50 years. Lol good times
@@Vernbubba; I don't think it was fifty years!
@@guynorth3277 I just looked it up cause now I was curious and in 1860 the average life span was 39.4 years. This was mainly due to infant mortality rates. Tough times for sure
Freedom to die of Cholera, TB, Diphtheria, Polio, starvation, exhaustion, the elements......
Just think of all the hopes and dreams that flowed through those tracks.
And the grave sites
Imagine those pioneers seeing all those snowflakes, those Karens and BLM nuts today...
There’s something similar in the highlands of Scotland where I often go. Foot prints and gouges in the rocks. That’s very interesting.
We have quite a lot of fossils in the part of New England that I live in, I would love to see some of these wagon ruts.
The Oregon trail is literally 10 feet from my family room windows, I find artifacts just outside the front door..
That pretty cool
Because the trails were so rough with ruts and gullies they had to cross, the cart wheels were up to 8FT in diameter! This allowed the wheel to roll across the gullies from one side to the other and not get stuck down in them.
I like how this guy is just being himself - without guile.
Can you imagine the hardships they must have endured? Such a rich piece of history! Ty for showing this; so cool
My God, no road rest stops, bathrooms or running water. Imagine having to survive that trip? Apparently, this is how CAA started, formerly, HAA. Took 2 months for emergency services by smoke signals, but they were there to help.
This is so cool!! I'd love to be able to do some exploring like that. Thanks for posting this 👍
You are an empath. You always have a sense of what others feel or possibly went through riding in those carts or wagons across those bumpy rocks. Your humanity, decency and goodness comes through during your narration. I actually like your open scene which is not always played at the beginning of all of your videos. Is there a reason? Your look on the sky coaster is adorable. Your facial expressions are priceless.
Huh
@@VOOODOOO37found the idiot
My first thought was “ I wish I had a metal detector there”. Awesome find! Truly spectacular. Thank you for sharing. 🤠
Lewis and Clark trail in Oregon there still exists original wheel tracks as well
I cannot imagine driving a wagon through Monarch Pass and I-70. It is 2021 and a lot of parts are still basically only wide enough for 1 car.
Can't imagine the scores of wagons that went over those rocks to wear a rut into those boulders. What a hard long trip.
I spent most of my life here in the valley and lots of locals do not agree with the story Re-told here... First, Oregon trail never went through S. Colorado.... lots of those tracks stop right into mountain sides or peter out into just one rut up a cliff...there are lots of 10 inch ruts that go nowhere... Archeologist in the area can only say they are used by Mexicans to get firewood.... But lots of people think they are from a pre history civilization that is not recorded yet. Possibly same civilizations that created lots of mounds and structure no Native American Claim.....This guy is just repeating what he found to read. More information will be let out over time, stay tuned.
My parents live in Kansas and the Oregon trail goes thru their property and you can still see the ruts to this day
How cool!!
I've seen several places along the Oregon Trail where tracks are still visible. One was at Golden Spike National Monument in Utah, another at the Whitman Mission (National Historical Site) in Washington. Shows how many wagons traveled the trails and compacted the ground.
Chris, your videos are far more interesting and educational than any of the public school systems we have today. Just doing your research and learning about the "cardettas" that traveled over that terrain during the mid 1800s is a bonus whenever watching a video like this one for example. You research your history, show us the details, and sometimes even discover old photographs. Really cool, man. It's what keeps your fans watching.
Roughly 200+ years, that Spain had people traversing the area, for the King, the Church, and gold! A lot of History is not taught in school these days. Great video!
Laura Ingalls Wilder books and the gold rush was in the 1880's. The west wasn't what you'd call settled prior to that. That's about 141 years.
America has a lot on interesting history, I see hand built dams (The China Dam 1860), I have found ancient Chinese coins (lost by Chinese Miners), old abandoned towns and plenty of gold nuggets here in Arizona ........Thanks for the video !
In Kingman Arizona I Know where there is Wagon Wheel ruts along with Hoof Ruts From the Livestock that were doing the work.
Also, My Friend and I Found Petrified Wood along with Ancient Petroglyphs carved into the rocks near the Colorado River
Sometimes men would pick away "wheel busters"
So some of those deep ruts were not simply carved out by wagon wheels.
Because they used that route so much for so long.... they repaired it, and smoothed trouble spots, by hand...
I was going to say the same thing 👍
I was wondering why only the wheels seemed to make a path yet the oxen hooves and human traffic had no effect on it what so ever.
@Tom Jenkins Hooves and feet didn't always hit the same spot, so no continuous wear.
Wagon wheels always rode in the same spot; most wagons were made the same width.
Those are truly ruts made by continuous traffic.
@Tom Jenkins
Ever been to a 4x4 park?
You don't have multiple paths to get from point A to point B.
You have this one road out there, the other road out there is 100 miles south.
3 or 4 wagons at a time, hundreds of wagon trains.
We got out there on wagons before rails, had to do it for about a hundred years.
Soft stone + steel hooped wheels × multitudes of 4 wheel, 2,000 lb carriages = ruts, my man.
@Tom Jenkins
Well, don't buy it.
That's your dealio.
That is what it is, bro.
You can think that those are "natural ruts."
My concern is that you can't wrap your head around what it actually is, ruts from wagons, but you can wrap your head around the wind, or water, or whatever have you, is responsible for those ruts. That just so happen to be in the easiest place for a wagon to transverse, and a wagon's width apart. And they're not out by themselves, but rather, connected.
Like a trail or something.
One road. Lots of carriages.
Lots of time.
There were 6 main trails that all the people on the western seaboard used to get over there till the railroads connected it.
However, I'd love to hear more on your "natural erosion " theory.
Do tell.
I know of a spot in Montana that still has wagon tracks and boot tracks, even rope burns on the trees from helping the wagon down the steep hill sides, I believe it's part of the original mulan trail.it's like stepping back in time. About a 2 hr hike by Jen Montana
Ml
We have trails just like that here in santa barbara ca. The end of the line.
Back in the day, oh my those words remind me of my dad😢and his wagon stories he would tell me it would take 3 days to get to the closest town. Great find though.
They need to be preserved!!!! Wow !! Very interesting!!!!
Thank you to those who came before and for you sharing this story.🙏
I think this is one of the coolest thing you've shown on your channel. I've never heard of these wagon trails and for sure would never have seen them if they weren't on your video. So I really appreciate you showing us this. Thank you.
Wow love old western history. To see these tracks is awesome
Are they from wagons? In solid rock? Doesn’t look right to me.
Those were Tough, Tough people who built America!!! Extraordinary!!! Can you imagine yourself trekking across this? Great Video and Thank You for sharing!
Yay!! You went to Penitente Canyon! Love hiking there! Penitente Canyon got it's name from the Penitents. The ruts were caused from the carts carrying wood. The "rock" is called volcanic tuft.
Then you watched the video.
@@james1795 Not only did I watch the video, but I lived near there.
I'm like a kid on Christmas when your videos pop up!!! I really do appreciate your dedication to bringing the world your videos, while living your dream ! God bless brother 🙏
I find it interesting that those Boulder impressions are considered to be erosion from wind
They are...
So humbling to get just the slightest idea of what our ancestors endured. Thank you for another excellent history travel video!
You have a very natural and intuitive way of talking to people. Like you’re just opening up to a friend. Thanks. Never change.
I was so excited to find a new video and boy was this one incredible. Never knew these "grooves" made by wagon wheels even existed. You are always exploring, finding and sharing such awesome places and things. But as always, YOU are the star of the show and main reason I watch. You are absolutely adorable and so handsome.
Trail ruts near Guernsey Wyoming as well.
I’ve camped near there.
Ash Hollow in Western Nebraska has 170 year old wagon wheel ruts. The grade was so steep they had to use 2 oxen teams per wagon to power ascent and control descent.
In California on Highway 88 you can see where the settlers came across and one spot of tea review point and you can see the wagon tracks like you said go into the Rocks below
Astounding! Imagine what went on in that exact spot just in another time - wow !
I love your enthusiasm and respect for history. In the California Mojave desert there are many similar tracks over rocks from 1800's wagons supporting the military carvery forts of the time.
Easy to see deep grooves from iron clad wagons hauling Cinnabar ore down from the eastern hills near Calistoga, CA.
Calistoga has so much history and is a beautiful place.
I've had a pothole in front of my driveway for over 2 months.........I can certainly relate to the hardships these people must have endured 😎
Only if you drive on bare rims, with all your life's possessions with you, two thousand miles from home! No cell.
@@bob_frazier "that's the joke"
im in ohio and the State Flower is the Orange Barrell...
Hi Chris, that is some pretty awesome history right there. Thanks for sharing, much love. xx💖
Bull Creek park Austin Texas - There are wagon wheel tracks and some boot prints right next to the tracks. The mud turned to rock and they are forever a reminder of the pioneer spirit.
If you go to Rome, Italy, there are still chariot wheel ruts that are 2000 years old.
Thanck ! You wraite my comment but not whit my bad english ! Bye bye from Italy !!! My town is near at " via Aurelia" ,one very long road of ancien roman !
M just shows how far we come from cars to wagons ,we had it ruff back then going over the hills and grow the woods in a horse and wagons pulse getting scalp hold up shoot at and soo on.
It’s incredible that families made it.
It’s also incredible that now their descendants are the softest and most weak among us in our country today.
Enjoyed your video. I live Northern Wyoming, the Bozeman trail 👣 wagon tacks remain to this day. They are amazing, history should be remembered. Thank you young whipper snapper. Peace ✌.
INCREDIBLE!
If only those rocks could tell their stories!!!!!
This is amazing. I love that you show it and I hate that you show it. The “Brad was here” people are gonna come for their selfies and evry 50th must carve his name in the rock....
Hopefully they’re too lazy to hike that far.
I was not there.
@@bradc9491 ...or were you?
They already have if you look closer at some earlier in the video.
As you know I love history! And yes a metal detector would be great! The old wagons headed westward from the east often dropped their loads to make it over the mountains, it would be interesting to see any finds.
Loved seeing these wagon tracks, never knew about them.
My granny told me a story of her childhood. She was 3-4 years old in 1916-17 living in Oklahoma. She was riding in the buckboard with her daddy headed back home from town and cousin, Frank James who was elderly came riding up on them. My granny wanted to ride on the horse, so Frank pulled her up and they all road back up to the house.
Sandy Ca, if they dropped their loads to get over the mountains, what would be the point of continuing the trip with an empty wagon?
I can't even begin to imagine!!!!! Thanks for sharing! Pat
That was a ruff ride. If ya drank cream before you started you have a gut full of butter at the end. 😬👍
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
This is the most coolest shit I've ever seen great vid bro
I know right? I never imagined this history still existed.
@@jonaeflure it's amazing stuff like this still exists I'm mind blown right now lol cool stuff
Groovy man. ( sorry couldn't resist ;-)
@@vintage_85 It was there in 1975 Kojak .
@@jonaeflure; I do remember this from grade school (it was parochial)
Crazy to imagine wagon trains going over those rocks. Have to wonder how many wheels they broke. Thanks for another interesting video!
I was literally thinking the same thing and when I opened the comments, your comment was first. I was wondering how many wheels they broke or how they knew where they were going. I have so many unanswered questions haha It also looks like the rocks drop off a bit so what happens when the wagon goes over the rocks? No GPS back then so they would have to know the route maybe? How did they know where they were? I would love to ask them these things
@@c.b5996 how about the camber some of those tuts were on? when he was walking on flatter land & ruts on the side of the hill
@@tripplefives1402 ok but if the stone is brittle it would crumble & if it was hard steel wrapped wooden wheels would not cut grooves into stone, i know because i am a 27 year plus stone fabricator/shaper. those tracks look like they are/were made in a soft medium that hardened. if i had zero experience working/cutting/shaping stone i may believe the ridiculous narrative of wagon ruts carved stone.
There are wagon ruts visible in south central Texas from years ago. Can you imagine putting everything you owned in a wagon, then heading across the country not knowing for sure where you're going?
Awesome! My Great-Great-Grandfather rolled the trails as a distributor/supplier of sorts to the general stores that were popping up in the new settlements.
🌹Thank you for sharing & letting me experience things vicariously thru u that I'm unable to get to
🕊 PEACE 💜 BLESSINGS 👼
Awesome dude! Another place added to my ever growing list that I want to visit! 😄
You made a very good 7min 37sec video of some American history, what kind of people give it a thumbs down???
In 1968-69 I spent the summers travelling the country and saw a number of old wagon roads and traces.
I feel like you, that history embedded in rock or forests, is amazing!
Cheers,
Rik Spector
In Europe we still use Roman roads, 2000 years old.
The Romans would be proud. 😎
Absolutely amazing 🙌
I've lived here all my life and have never known about this! Haha!
Maybe you should try getting out once in a while.
I spent most of my life here in the valley and lots of locals do not agree with the story Re-told here... First, Oregon trail never went through S. Colorado.... lots of those tracks stop right into mountain sides or peter out into just one rut up a cliff...there are lots of 10 inch ruts that go nowhere... Archeologist in the area can only say they are used by Mexicans to get firewood.... But lots of people think they are from a pre history civilization that is not recorded yet. Possibly same civilizations that created lots of mounds and structure no Native American Claim.....This guy is just repeating what he found to read. More information will be let out over time, stay tuned.
I love how you always see the possibility of something being a "shelter" or made into a home. I am the same way. I always look at a cave, over hang or other shelter as something that could be made to provide shelter. Rocking up the entrance to a cave or propping up huge sticks, limbs, branches to cut off the cold wind, building a fire and making something into a warm, cozy dry place to seek shelter. I love the way you think along with everything else about you. Someone else could take a camera and show the same places and it would not be near as interesting or AWESOME as when you are narrating and carrying me along for the "ride".
Bloody incredible!! I hope those historically significant tracks will be protected for future generations to appreciate.
They had to follow the wagon grooves back then. No Google Maps or Waze.
In a hundred and fifty years people will still be finding signs of where the homeless lived in Southern .
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fornia.
That was FANtASTIC.
I really liked this video. Thank you
I feel bad for the poor animals that had to haul the wagons over that terrain! poor things... cool that those tracks are still there, thanks for that.
The tracks are clearer up at signature rock near Guernsey.
Yes. Much cleaner and people's initials too.
We just don't know how good we have it. They where strong willed people.
Shame we just turned to flowers and cupcakes! We would not last a week in the ol west!
i heard of this when i was a kid. thanks for your time to show us up close the amazing history of america. fantastic
That's so cool, thanks for sharing. 👍
Amazing video, we whine about our lives now imagine what our ancestors went through. No wonder most had such short lives. You really get the sense of things looking at those wheel ruts. I have seen the ones in the Oklahoma panhandle, I don't know how those have lasted so long, I think they may have been preserved by volcano ash also, there is a volcano site there also, called Black Mesa. The site of the wagon wheels is grown with weeds, but ruts can be seen. It's been so long ago, I may be wrong. There were sites there where foot prints of dinosaurs could be seen, and they still dig for their bones too. Sorry I am long winded LOL
Come to Wyoming some time there are trails like that cut in to rock that are 5 foot deep
Made from wagons 20 feet tall...?
Such a stupid explanation for this.
@@mykuntstynx9463 They actually kept increasing the size of the wheels, which were obviously man made, so the wagons could follow the deepening trail (lessening the risk of getting stuck).
Sylvie at Newearth does a great job exploring these cart ruts worldwide in her videos. You should watch.
I love her videos.
That was amazing.
I'd say those trails are a lot older then the 1800s ,think about it.
Yes. I agree
I'm in Texas, the hwy 4 miles from my house runs along the ost el camino real. It dates back to the early 1600s, when the Spanish was here, and they turned Indian trails into their wagon trails. Most of its paved now though. We're still using it.
Tens of thousands of yrs
@@MHB7000 that's what i think also, we've been around a long long time.
Do you always travel alone? I really like your videos. Keep them coming.
Question: Wouldn't the oxen also leave a rut? Statement: the ruts don't maintain their spacing
I’d have to say the wheels would be burning a deeper mark from the weight on a steel band wheel. If the animal did not have shoes it would leave a vary soft footprint
Here the asphalt roads are rutted where the horses trot, pulling the Amish buggies, and not where the wheels roll.
@@ducati135
Yep rubber tires.
Not wooden steel wheels right?
And I said they did not have shoes on their animals either.
@Tom Jenkins You need to get together with the cart rut people and have babies.
I have a family tradition where I visit Colorado and ski every spring break and when I go this year I'll be sure to hike out there to find some tracks! Thanks!
I've walked in the wagon ruts of my pioneer ancestors on the Oregon Trail in Eastern Oregon. It's pretty amazing. Was at the opening weekend of the Interpretive Center in Baker County and watched the reenactment of a wagon train coming in. Something I will never forget.
Tons of wagon wheel ruts in northern California.
Isn’t Cal still in its rut?
Damn that's funny 🤣
@@toooldtochange6098 Too funny lol. It is after all the land of nuts and fruits.
Yes the ruts and old tracks are marked. They can be seen at the old snowmoble park off of Pilgrim Creek Road on the way to Medicine Lake. All from the late 1800s. We found them while mushroom hunting.
I think the oxen would have broken their legs trying to walk on that crap. We need another theory.
Hmmmmm.....
I'm not sayin' it was aliens.....but it was.......
Burrows
Are you serious? Deer and elk can RUN easily through this topography at 40-50 MPH.
@@greg6235 Not strapped to a wagon that weighs 1000 lbs trying to haul it up and down hills in that terrain, get real Greg-o. Lmao 😂
Our history is amazing. Thanks for showing us this. I hope people don't come out with metal detectors. Anything old found here should be left where it lies. It belongs to this place.
Its amazing the life they had on the trail the hardships an the good times i collect Diaries of the people that rode on the trail love your videos its a great teaching tool Thank you.
PRETTY COOL STUFF, THANKS