Massive jam w/ Keystep Pro, Subharmonicon, ARP Odyssey, DFAM, SH-01a, MI Clouds, and lots of effects
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A live, semi-improvised performance, all on hardware, and inspired by the anticipation of the new (school) year. I wanted to do one last huge setup, with a lot of different gear, before the semester starts and I get busy. I was super happy with where this one went.
At the heart of it is the Arturia Keystep Pro, which is sequencing four melodic lines (bass on ARP Odyssey, pads on SH-01a, melodic arp on Subharmonicon, and granular melody on Clouds), while also providing clock for the non-MIDI DFAMs. Despite the huge assortment of gear on the table, this one just worked for me because the instruments each have a really beautiful baseline sound.
Arturia Keystep Pro - Sequencing and clock
Korg ARP Odyssey into Empress Echosystem - Bass
Roland SH-01a into Strymon Ola into Meris Ottobit Jr. - Pad
Moog Subharmonicon into Meris Polymoon - Arp melody thing
Mutable Instruments Clouds into Strymon Magneto - Granular melody
Moog DFAM into Empress Multidrive into Union Tube & Transistor Lab - Kick and snare
Moog DFAM into Erica Synths & Ninja Tune Zen Delay - Hi hats and noise weirdness
Written and recorded in a 48-hour period and uploaded as is, with EQ, compression, and limiting on the master.
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Appreciate how you break down what everything is doing..dope 👍🏾
Another awesome jam!! I have to be careful watching this guy's vids because I always end up seeing at least one piece of gear that I can't possibly live without lol. It gets expensive being a fan of this dude ;)
Absolutely insane man, my new fav! :o
I'm not crying kuz I'm light hearted, I'm crying kuz I love it!
You didn’t gel with the keystep for the same reason I’ve not gelled with my programmable step sequencer. It’s not a creative process like non deterministic chance ones like Bloom or Varigates, or a Mimetic Digitalis or Turing a machine through a quantiser. It’s happy accidents we live for in the modular world and the ability discover sweet spots as we play. Great setup up and progressions here though.
+Jay Hosking Wish I would've not bought a Keystep pro and listened to your opinion. I had so many problems with it... at the end it wouldn't even turn on. Garbage. Going to try and go with the Novation you talked about enjoying so much.
Really sorry to hear it. I do know some people love it, but hopefully the Novation works out for you!
That's a beautiful track Jay.
Perfect full arranged track with a lot of nuances, without a DAW in 48 hours. I'm jealous.
Great stuff as always, Jay. That ARP Odyssey sounds awesome - love the opening arpeggio. Reminded me of Deadmau5 "The Veldt". Sorry to hear you're not getting along with the KeyStep. It's been on my radar since Loopop did a review on it a couple of months back.One thing that occurred to me while watching the video would be to experiment with routing the MIDI data from the KeyStep through the NDLR perhaps? Maybe set up some sequences on the KeyStep to mute certain tracks/parts and allow the NDLR to take over i.e use MIDI CC messages via the control channel on the NDLR to automate the Chord Degree or Type. Could be interesting? Just a weird random thought :) I saw Slentendre Beer achieve something similar with their BeatStep Pro / KeyStep combo.
Often when I see setups this large, the results don't always live up to expectations. This is impressive in every sense of the word. I'm just now getting from a one voice setup to a two voice setup (hopefully three soon), and this has given me a lot of ideas of where to go from the present. Every aspect of this is amazing, and it's great to see how you utilize each synth's features to the fullest.
Found your channel the other day and soooo glad I did! I've been hooked on your videos. As someone who has been wanting to experiment with synths for a long time merely out of love for the sound, it's magic watching you create and explain what you're doing. Gives me inspiration that I might be able to create something semicool myself someday. I guess for me it's just a matter of deciding on an entry level at this point. Definitely my favorite channel on TH-cam at the moment!
Did you find your entry yet m8? Feeling like im kinda in the same position as you :)
Wow! Your music is so excellent, these 5 minutes were an invitation to a dream...
Many thanks.
Thank you for all explanations as well.
Congrats from France!
Amazing and I DO Appreciate the text telling us what you are using, despite what I am about to say:
Why does no one modulate a(in the classical sense) the key signatures? Changing chords to suit that? That seems to have disappeared and it just becomes maybe change the root note for flavour, but no Major/minor, no Eb to C7th etc. Forgive me if I missed this, but it's a genuine question. I certainly see it is not beyond you or your creative sensibilities which are well on show here. Thank You again, still lovely stuff of course.
This is excellent - as other people have said the breakdown of what’s going on is great. A lot of effort in this and it totally pays off.
Very nice Jay sounds amazing ! Do you know if the Keystep Pro would be able to arpeggiate my Juno 106 synth ? Not sure of the keysteps routing capabilities...Thanks !
Tha ARP, omggg
Yeah, it has tone to spare!
Absolutely stunning! One of the best tracks I have heard in ages! Great gear - true - but expertly used and musically delightful. New subscriber - job done! Can't wait to check out more of your videos.
Absolutely right, if this gear is in the hands of a noob it will shit out bricks
Fuuuuuu, that was gorgeous. Almost instantly became one of my favorite jams. Just wanted to quickly check it out on my phone and ended up watching the whole thing. I have to go on my computer and check it with the headphones!
Dude, just how many pieces of gear do you have? How the heck do you store all of them? I keep seeing more and more stuff that weren't feature before!
Great session. Although curious what features of the Keystep made you not jive with it fully. I just ordered one lol
That was really cool, i enjoyed everything about that set.
Let me start by saying, I love everything about this jam it's completely brilliant! Thank you for sharing! I also want to comment on two things. First I love what I've taken to calling the Moog tiny's. The DFAM, Mother32, SubH and MiniT they have a pretty fun Moog sound and are generally approachable synths. I also wanted to note that the front panel of the Korg ARP Odyssey reminded me a little of the ARP 2600 front panel with things pointing to sliders in some kind of child's electronics experiment kit (I always loved that about the ARP 2600 and instantly love that in everything else I see that even vaguely reminds me of it).
I do have one question (and if this is a Patron only sort of question I respect that). But what do you use to record this on a PC? Do you bring it in as a L/R mix through an audio interface or do you bring in each sound in and downmix them to a track? Either way which interface do you use to record? I've been using a Focusrite RedNet A16R (x2) for line-in level stuff (I admit it's overkill for my purpose).
I use the Allen & Heath Qu-16 to bring in each sound individually, although with master-level devices (e.g. Octatrack), that's sometimes only a stereo in. Here it's five stereo ins and one mono in. I also use the Soundcraft Signature MTK when recording with Sam, my drummer friend, and the Steinberg UR44 or iRig Pro Duo with a portable setup.
I record into Reason, which is basically only acting as a tape. I'm usually mixing the music during setup, getting levels and tone right, so not really any mixing in the box, but I do master using EQ/compression/limiting. And thanks!
I kinda agree about the front panel and the 2600, but it seems to me to have more in common otherwise with the Cat. The odyssey has the sequencer and arp and a few extra parameters but to me it feels like it’s the cat underneath.
@@apparatusvivi leider kann mein 2600 das nur im loop.....
@@Andreas.von.Lieres I take back my comparison with the cat. I use both of them a lot and there are pretty big differences. The cat has a sub octave on each vco. It doesn’t have ring modulation. I love using the two of them together.
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Best bass guitar I’ve ever heard. And I’m very old.
I absolutely love the Zen Delay, it really is more of an instrument than just an effect. It's a great secret weapon.
Actually stopped looking at the gear and just listened to the music after a while. Really cool.
How do you keep note of your patches? Don't you get anxiety your current configuration will be lost forever whenever you're gonna try something new?
I don’t keep track of the patches, and yeah, everything’s gone forever when I disconnect a given setup. Means I actually have to finish songs, and that I have to do my best to get it right, which leads to better results. And thanks!
@@JayHosking Brave. Kudos, bro.
Really great man! That DFAM patch for the kick and snare is f-ing bad! Great stuff
This just popped up and I assumed it was new. Found I'd already Liked it. Even by your standards this is a banger
Thank you. One of my favourites. Putting up a live version in the near future.
@@JayHoskingyou might also have sold me on a Zen Delay for an Intellijel Cascadia...
This is beautiful, 4 spins later, and.still on cloud 9 - so many small gold nuggets, the Hoskingianna is strong here🌥️✨
Can listen to this jam for hours 💚✌️ Thanks J 🤗
I played around with the zen delay before it's so amazing
I'm sorry... the likes were at 808 and I ruined it by making it 809.
Awesome jam as always. So much going on here! I can only imagine what the cabling setup looks like, haha!
Hah! Wasn’t pretty.
Jay in your view, which would you recommend as a sequencer...the Deluge or the Keystep Pro ? I need something to bring my instruments together, I have the Machinedrum UW , Tb303, Perfourmer, Artria Drumbrute, and 2 Juno's. I've had these instruments for many years but only starting to use midi sequencing and clocking now. Crazy but true. Im old school and like hands on, and dont like menu diving. ( reminder 303 is on din sync ) or is there a different sequencer you would suggest ? I really want to use the Perfourmer to its fullest capabilities too
Of the two you mentioned, I'd go with the Deluge, but that's because I haven't (yet?) gelled with the Keystep Pro's workflow. But for more complicated arrangements, I'm fond of the Toraiz Squid and Novation Launchpad Pro mk3. Best of luck!
really cool!
Damn, Jay! This is massive, indeed. One of my favorites of yours. Simply beautiful. That Subharmonicon
Nice work
I had some annoying bugs when I first got my keystep pro, mostly with the USB midi
But it appears to be fixed now with a firmware update - so that’s great
My main wish.. is I was hoping I’d have more CC automation
Like 5 knobs per track not 5 knobs total
But yeah, loving the feel of the keys and many of the note sequencing features
My first hardware sequencer
(Well, I used to own an electribe sx back in the day, but it was a very different beast!)
that zen delay is like its own instrument, interesting...
Very interesting rich synth set up !
How did you managed sound (audio interface, Mixer, etc.) with all those devices ?
I heard it at least 20 times yet ☺️
I use a combination mixer / audio interface, which I'd definitely recommend. And thanks!
Dude, nice jam! Lots of things going on in this track. You're the conductor for the Hosking Synth Symphony. When does the tour start?
As soon as music pays the bills (i.e. probably never haha). And thanks!
@@JayHosking I can assure you it will, -
Zen delay at least £500. For a freaking delay!
Jay, I'm looking for a delay machine to hook up to my synthesizers. Do you have advice on what to buy for a real good worth for your money basis?
The Empress Echosystem is full of great algorithms. The Meris Polymoon gives you a lot of weird spacy exploration beyond delay. Ans the Erica Synths Zen Delay is for super wild hands-on performance. Best of luck!
Great Jam and fantastic explanations. Well done :)
It was good except that arp, just kind of 1 note
Would def appreciate any tips / tricks on using the Subharm
i have been able to make it do what i want a few times, but it sometimes feels like you fall into dangerous ruts with it.
Honestly, I mostly turn dials until I like the sound. Aside from that, I think the manual is really useful for explaining the subdivisions and also the tuning temperaments, and that can help a lot. Best of luck!
Jay, you're amazing. Thanks for the videos. How much gear do you own (if you had to guess)?
More than a little, but maybe not as much as you might think?
omfg. this is pure gold. so fucking envious of your talent. I need this on spotify!!!!!!!
That was awesome!
I think you're gonna need a bigger boat!
Beutiful composition
nice, is this all set up via patch bays that are off screen? or are you direct connecting all the chains and have to move stuff around?
Direct connecting. I do a different setup each time I make a song. And thanks!
Absolutely loved this👏🏼👏🏼 I really get what you mean about the keystep pro. I was also hoping it would be the “one to rule them all”, but something about it just hasn’t quite clicked with me. I have no idea why, it seems to have everything I wanted, but I find myself using it less and less. Anyway, keep up the good stuff my man💪🏼💪🏼
Thanks! And yeah, it's weird. I'm going to explore the KSP a little more and see if I'm missing something.
Quantize has left the building.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
Jeez man, way too good!! 👍🏾👍🏾
Just a small modular system can't hurt can it? Just a few modules, going to keep it sensible.... Good job wrangling all that gear, it's sounding lush 😎
I’ve worked very hard not to acquire more modules than are useful for my needs, but every week I’m still browsing 6u and 9u cases like a dummy. And thanks!
Same... I now have a completely full 6U rackbrute and it's a puzzle to fit things in even with 2hp and micro versions. It would be so much easier with a larger case.... 🙄
As always....just plain " cool"!
Another great tune! Do you use pittsburgh modular sv-1 at all in any clips?
Haven’t tried it but am super interested in the blackbox version. Maybe one day I’ll give it a spin!
That's a pretty complex deal but very nice results as usual. Main design flaw in Keystep Pro for me is that there isn't a version with full-size keys and, more importantly, a set of velocity sensitive pads with velocity outs like on Beatstep. Huh... does beatstep have velocity outs?
Offhand, I'm not sure, but I would expect so. And I agree about the small keys. Makes me wonder if I need to give the Novation SL Mk3 a spin again.
@@JayHosking Yeah the Novation is the alternative and has some nice features but not nearly enough outs. And I just checked you don't get velocity outs on the beatstep. I just don't understand why the manufacturers don't get it considering we're well into the eurorack era and people who use keys need these features. And the Novation is the fugliest thing I've ever seen, like the maschine controllers. I can't make music looking at that really.
Beautiful music! It's probably just the mood I'm in this morning, but I was just thinking that all this setup and explanation would need to cross the fine line into satire would be the addition of a Moon Armada Baby-bot. 😜
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Amazing.
Nice jam ! I am a big fan of Arturia's keyboards. I heavily use my Keystep and its sequencer in my own work, but the Keystep Pro seems like an amazing tool. A bit on the higher end for my finances, but who knows ... maybe one day !
Keep up the great work.
SubH sounds good 😎👍🏼
Pretty nice jam. You sold some Zen Delay with this! The sole thing I did not quite enjoy was the rhythms produced by Clouds. I felt they did not have a place in the ensemble. Your using the Zen Delay to intro the hi-hat sound was, on the other hand, absolutely brilliant.
This is so fucking sick. Love love love this jam. Check out my stuff if you'd like. I started making music on youtube like a month ago
Take care dude.
Amazing work as always, thanks for sharing 👍
That's really amazing. LOVE it! Love the longer ones!
Fantastic Jam!! I too had high hopes for a pro keystep, thought the pro would have full sized keys...so no. I was looking for the ultimate center-piece hardware sequencer, I bought a Casio MZ-X500 to fulfill this quest, it did not. Now using 3 sequencers MIDI clocked together and lots of MIDI thru boxes. I think I have the ultimate now??
I recently started using Arturia Keystep Pro. Which instrument do you recommend to use with the CV outputs?
There are so many options to choose from that it's hard to say. Right now I'm quite partial to the Noise Engineering Manis Iteritas, and think that's a good use of the CV. Best of luck!
@@JayHosking Thank You
I love seeing hardware!
Wow, super nice sound and well explained!
Ooooh, gear porn. Thank you
So beautiful
JESUS you're awesome
Nice work. Good sound.
Nice annotations! Thanks!
You truly are the master of DAWless performance! I Can't believe how much things you can manage at once, and each piece has a carefully chosen role and spot to shine. And you manage to never make it sound overwhelming or show-offy but always extremely musical.
I wish I had 10 grand to buy all this awesome gear.
What an awesome/interesting sound rig you have going there. Keystep pro, 2 dfam’s, subharmonic,ARP, Sh101, a Euro rack system………. Plus much more I’m not familiar with.
Really nice stuff here
This is wonderful, I’ve got a little understanding of how some parts of this work but the whole thing, I am wonderfully clueless
This massive jam is waaaaayyyy better than the last massive jam I experienced.
This made life better.
Lovely!
Jay, awesome channel. Love your stuff. I'm a doctor in Amsterdam with the same hobby. Can I ask you a question? I currently have a moog sub 37, nord stage 2, prophet 6, nord drum 2, and elektron analog rytm. I have them all connected to an iMac with logic pro X but I would prefer to jam dawless. What I'd like to be able to do is have the analog rytm as my tempo master, start a beat on this, and then be able to play a bass line on my moog for instance, and then immediately let that loop, so I can then play chords on the nord, let that loop, en play a lead on prophet, you get my drift. All synced (preferably to rytm). What would you recommend for me? Can I do this with my current gear, do I need a 'brain/sequencer', and which one do you recommend, as you obviously have tried many (and are not very positive about the keystep pro). Hope you find the time to answer, merry christmas!
A lot of people do like the Keystep Pro, so don't listen to me! Plus, I need to give it another spin soon. But for myself and the setup you're describing, I'd consider one of two things: either the Launchpad Pro MkIII, which can sequence four devices (Sub37, NS2, P6, ND2) and easily sync to the Rytm; or, if you're feeling more adventurous and think that your setup might expand, either the Octatrack or Digitakt with their eight MIDI tracks. I am usually reluctant to recommend the Octatrack, even though it's my favourite, but if you're already into the Elektron thing, one of these two boxes might be a good addition. Best of luck, and thanks!
@@JayHosking thankyou! can you do the live looping with both the digitakt and octatrack, or only with the octa? and what about things like the squarp pyramid? thanks!!!!!
@@tendingtropic7778 If you want to just capture audio, you could use a number of audio loopers that have MIDI sync (e.g. RC-505). You could record in MIDI with either Digitakt or Octatrack while playing live, though Elektron sequencing can be a bit finicky when done in real-time. Pyramid is fun and leads to neat ideas but wouldn't be my first choice.
@@JayHosking Thanks again! last question: I can confirm that I'd prefer recording/looping via midi, not audio. So if the digitakt/octatrack live loopiong route is a bit finicky (don't want that), and the squarp pyramid wouldnt be your first choice, what would be? Once again, thanks and I'll leave you alone after this haha. Merry christmas!
Jay I like what you have to say I just can’t read fast.
Sorry! Yeah, I'm not always successful in hitting that sweet spot of how long to keep text on the screen. Constantly trying to get better at it.
Arturia just released an update today for the keystep pro. I wonder if it fixes the issues you were having with it
I'll check it out!
@@JayHosking i have one coming next week. Its nice to see arturia putting out firmware releases pretty frequently. Im sure they will have the bugs fixed. This is a huge item for the company
sounds like ableton
I should come here more often. Good music, and no GAS. I like what you make, but don't want any of the gear. It's good for both my ears and my wallet.
Epic! much to take in....just came to see what the Keystep could do! Fab jam
I always want to just turn on your videos and zone out, but then I get so wrapped up in your comments I can't stop watching!
hey jay, great vids man. just curious, what kind of mixer are you using?
Allen & Heath Qu-16. And thanks!
Jay Hosking 🤟
Man that odyssey sounds good. I use my Cat for bass like that but wow I wouldn’t mind having an odyssey too.
I always come back to your channel both for ther quality of the music and to swteal you some tricks in my production and still don't get why the hell you just have 12.5k subscribers instead of hundreds of thousands. Not Joking. you deserve more
ps it's your "fault" :D if I've just bought a matriarch and a subharmonicon. and a Dfam (used, from a friend) and in the end also a Crave as I've finished my money and the mother 32 was 4 times more expensive :D
Hah. That's a great collection of instruments! Enjoy.
Jay Hosking I know 😍 And I am. (Ableton, beatstep and sub phatty just weren’t enough 😅) What I really miss now are your amazing pedals. They will come in time
Ps I kinda hate you. Not only you are great at composition and one of the best at dawless sessions but, man, you got a great voice!
Wonderful track, very smart use of effects too. Hankering after that Zen delay, in the meantime I'm using my Dual Monotron delays!
Absolutely holy shit man. What an amazing array of dream equipment and superb performance and process details. I've seen that Zen Delay a couple times now and absolutely on my wishlist!
nice sounds great
Thanks for this!
Absolutely in love with the sounds produced man! Very lush jam as well. Cheers! ✌😍👍
Amazing performance + extremely helpful detail on what you are doing. Fantastic work! Inspiring!
DFAM + ZEN DELAY = ♥️
Really nice live