The Medway Megaliths - Have I Found Smythe's Lost Barrow?

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  • The Medway Megaliths are amazing feats of human engineering - from a past so distant it makes the Roman period look like yesterday. Some of them may still have more to reveal to the modern archeologist than we think. Let's have a look at a promising and unexpected candidate!
    Some information and drawings are from publications in Archeologica Cantiana, notably Paul Ashbee, the co-director of the Sutton-Hoo excavations.
    Ashbee, Paul, 2000, 'The Medqway's Megalithic Long Barrows', Archeologica Cantiana Vol 120
    Ashbee, Paul, 2003, 'The The Warren Farm Chamber: A Reconsideration', Archeologica Cantiana Vol 123

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  • @museonfilm8919
    @museonfilm8919 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Some nice detective work there!

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...And very time consuming. Thanks for liking!

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This story actually grew as it was told - like so many do. My eyes were as big as dobby's when I saw that summer-photo. A bit disappointing that this one got so little attention so far...But, of course, that shouldn't be the reason to do it.

  • @LeeGee
    @LeeGee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I left England to live in my wife's Hungary. I really miss the beautiful historical sites you show in such a respectful and loving way. Thank you.

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for that! Coincidentally, I left England in 2020 for work and private reasons but then was fortunate enough to go back many times for work. During those periods I am working off my home sickness by making these videos. So, In a loving way they are indeed made.

  • @MargitMesser-vo5or
    @MargitMesser-vo5or ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Makes you want to go there and have a look for yourself!

  • @sofa-lofa4241
    @sofa-lofa4241 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video,
    I heard of Smythe's megalith about 30 years ago and walked the field next to the White horse stone many times, there are sarsens in the hedgerows but no more than average for the area, possibly fragments of Smythe's, but probably not,
    There is an outcrop of Kentish Ragstone breaking through the surface in this area, lots of great building material... And sources of countless false leads!... I've found a few!

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh, fascinating, thanks! The location of Smythe's in that field, say, at the 90m contour line is well researched, so your sarsens in the headgerows could well be some of the fragments that were removed from the field. Or, more likely, just random sarsens that were moved out of the way. The location of that faint hint on the aerial photograph is spot on location-wise, but could be anything really. But it would be so easy to just walk over the area with a GPR unit or a magnetic field flux-meter that it seems a shame not to give it a go.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting! Thanks.

  • @spudspuddy
    @spudspuddy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There's more unrecorded sarens, a lot more, strewn all over Waldeslade woods nearby, 2 un-excavated mounds near fort Luton and more sarsens dumped by builders around the Walderslade housing estate randomly dumped by the builders who just wanted them out of the way, The area around the top of Detling hill could be seen for miles around and may have been why it was chosen for burials, our ancesters seem to choose hill tops in the landscape above their villages

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will be looking them up, thanks for that!

  • @mikerouch416
    @mikerouch416 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Keep pushing for mainstream to pay attention! We've lost so much for so little.

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I'll do my best...

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, and I'd always be grateful for suggestions where to go next.

  • @missktofdk
    @missktofdk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good job! Subscribed!! 🤓👏

  • @cargumdeu
    @cargumdeu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I could implore you to do one thing that would be to try and retain your German accent, because it makes what you say more distinctive and memorable. Ignore people who try and get you to pronounce pagan with a hard G. Everyone knows what you mean. You do serious topics in a very attractive light-hearted way, very watchable. More power to your elbow.

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think, try what I might, that accent is now with me to stay, so no worries. Anyway, thanks very much for the kind words - helps to keep trying my best!

  • @beezig
    @beezig 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video, I came across your channel whilst looking into the Uffington White horse, ive recently been seeking out all the hillforts and Long barrows in Wiltshire, 2 places I recommend visiting are Lockeridge & Piggledene, all part of the Avebury landscape, lesser known, but fascinating places to visit.

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great! Thanks for the nice comment and for the ideas where to go - always much appreciated!

  • @tweedyoutdoors
    @tweedyoutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi! I just discovered your channel this evening thanks to a suggestion from WC21 Productions (UK) Ltd. I was in this area yesterday and made a video of some of these sites but have to say yours feels a lot more professional!
    Very interesting to learn about Smythe's Megalith, and having seen that outline in the field you identified in that aerial imagery I can see it elsewhere too now (e.g. the aerial imagery in OS Maps).
    Unfortunately the publicly available LiDAR data I'm aware of (on the incongruously named houseprices website) doesn't seem to quite cover that location, stopping short a little to the north.

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Tweedy!
      Thanks for that! Yes, I do try to make them as 'professionally' as I can, having a full time job and being a one man show. The down-side is that I barely manage to squeeze out one per month and, apparently, that makes youtube hate you. It is, however, the only way for me. As a non native speaker, I need to script, then learn by heart, and then improvise on top of that to make it come across more authentic. If I tried to sit in a pub with a gazillion people all around, as you do, and just chat away, the result would be pathetic, trust me!
      I thoroughly enjoy watching WC21's stuff, as different as his style is from mine (or is it?). Do you follow Paul and Rebecca Whitewick, by the way? They do a lot of videos close to my old home, the Cotswolds, and might give you some ideas, too.
      Keep the good stuff comeing! All the best, Matt

    • @tweedyoutdoors
      @tweedyoutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MattMesserPics Yes TH-cam can feel a bit demanding at times! I get a little flurry of activity each time I upload a new video, then it usually dies down to practically nothing within a day or two of that. I had assumed / hoped more people would find my older videos because they're searching for subjects they're interested in (I do this a lot) but it seems in practice the vast majority of views for me come from recommendations and there freshness is obviously a very important signal. I don't mind too much though, I'm not expecting to make any money out of this, it's just a hobby for me, and I really enjoy the interactions in the comments.
      I should try actually scripting a video one day! Although only a few of my videos are "documentary" style, more of them are just me in the outdoors walking and/or camping reacting to whatever I find, so a script wouldn't really work there.
      Yes I occasionally watch Paul and Rebecca Whitewick's videos. Do you watch Allotment Fox? I really like the way he focuses on place names, which it seems can tell you a surprising amount about a place's history. Especially as when you study maps you notice so many things have names - hills, woods, farms étc - and all of them were named for a reason. I guess what he's doing is a sort of linguistic archaeology...?

  • @Terry9624
    @Terry9624 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    sad that the ancestors count for so little

    • @mikerouch416
      @mikerouch416 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed

    • @missktofdk
      @missktofdk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Censorship is insane on TH-cam 🤦‍♀️

    • @missktofdk
      @missktofdk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They don’t!
      Vatican and Smithsonian have put a lot of effort into keeping us in the dark.
      The pre-flood civilization was way more advanced than us..
      #SumerianTablets
      I recommend: Matthew Lacroix to anyone tortured by cognitive dissonance ☝️🤓😇

    • @missktofdk
      @missktofdk ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/R8ZJGdU1TTE/w-d-xo.html

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously, things are much better now than in Victorian times. But seeing how the last bit of visible mound is being ploughed away as we speak, did shock me a little...

  • @britishlongbarrows
    @britishlongbarrows 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just came across this - how could I have missed it - wonderful introduction to some of the Medway Megaliths including my (second) favourite pile of rocks - Little Kits Coty House. The crop mark photograph is tantalising and is certainly as good a possibility as any for the site. If that is its location then there is a good likelihood that it has been covered by the spoil from the tunnelling and may survive. Personally, I'm not convinced. Where the OS have placed the chamber can't be considered too accurate. A long barrow right here - aligned NW-SE - would have been constructed in the bottom of a small dry combe (more modern explanations for erosion here exempted). My guess is further north but, if you pursue this, I'll be happy to be proved wrong...off to check the CTRL excavation reports 😀

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Grahame, Thanks for that wonderful and detailed comment! I am not sure now where I have read that, as I phrased it, some thought has gone into positioning Smythe's on the map. Possibly in one of Paul Ashbee's papers? I've linked them in the description of my video - well worth a read for anybody interested in the Medway Megaliths. Thanks againand all the Best! Matthias

  • @mikemcgrath5188
    @mikemcgrath5188 ปีที่แล้ว

    even if your ruins are ruins, you have much more than myself in uhmerikah on the east coast close to NYC. i shall certainly view future videos.

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว

      And very kind, Thanks! I lived just east of NYC for four years and loved it! I always wondered why the native Americans haven't left more traces of that kind - perhaps their life was focused on following those epic heard of bison, making them mostly nomadic. They certainly had many thousand years to leave monuments.

  • @longboz
    @longboz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hello Mathias
    just a few metres from the white horse stone is the site of the earliest neolithic house found in Britain
    the site has been well excavated in recent times, But the site has been completely destroyed by the railway line

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, I didn't picture it that far away. The bank of the railway line is nearly 100m from the (new) white horse stone and I thought the neolithic house was just 10m or so south-west of the stone. Or was it next to the old stone, the site of which, I believe, is indeed now under the railway? Could you point me to a map, perhaps old OS? I'd be thrilled to learn more about that site.

  • @govang5191
    @govang5191 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You , explained our mistake, pissin the eh mm the celts off ,
    But yir knowledge passes on to the youth ,
    So it was really Germans that won the 1966 world cup
    Grrrrrr , Thank You Agin .

    • @MattMesserPics
      @MattMesserPics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, you see? So even in the 60s, TV couldn't be trusted. And here we are today, ranting about Fox-News.