The US Navy has been playing the aircraft carrier game for a hundred years. They have learned a few things from the wars fought and ships lost. The PLA-N stole as much design detail as they could but many things have to be learned from bitter experience. The Fujian is an expensive learning exercise. The only question is whether the rapidly collapsing Chinese economy and shaky internal political situation will allow the program to continue.
To extend that thought, this isn’t a football match. When China looses in the first season, they’re not going to have an off season to regroup and draft picks to improve their squad. If China starts something, the CCP will be dismantled and China will be rebuilt under a care taker government.
The Chinese economic situation is dire and there is no realistic solution in the short term. The Chinese have no job, their house prices are under water, banks don't even distribute real money [weird!] and people don't have the means to have children. They are heading for a catastrophe of a size this planet has not seen before. Toys like aircraft carriers are expensive when you know what you're doing with that. The Chinese are just inventing how this thing is supposed to work. On top of that there's systemic corruption which is hugely detrimental to the effort. They're not going to make it. This Fujian thing isn't going to be a threat to anyone.
@@howardtreesong4860The theory of China's collapse has been called for decades, but the reality is that it has not collapsed, but has become stronger and stronger.
Rather than mocking the Chinese efforts, we should honor the US Navy technology and logistical achievements. Our carriers are not just technological miracles but also a well-trained 3000 member team.
@@Overneed-Belkan-Witch And this experience was very expensive in terms of time, money, and lives. You can't just whip up a ship overnight and have the same experience. It doesn't work that way.
@@protorhinocerator142 Yeah, youre right. US has been through a lot since WW2. It shown them Air power through carrier project major dominance in military prowess
If nothing else, you have to give the Chinese credit for trying. They do have an idea of what external designs work best by copying US Carriers but what is inside is truly inferior. But the U.S. has over 100 years of experience that you cannot get by copying. What I found humorous was all the talk in this video about stealth. Seriously, who in their right mind thinks that an aircraft carrier is a stealthy vessel?
Not to mention combat experience. CCP only had 1 modern combat experience but their troops runaway like a chicken leaving behind their equipment and the refugees that they are supposed to protect *ahem Sudan, ahem
When I was younger I had a small sailboat (Laser like class, 4 m long). Every time I returned to port it took me an hour of preventive maintenance to prevent future malfunctions. I can’t imagine how big of a team you would need for preventative maintenance of this complex carrier.
They've found that a "tofu nuclear sub", of the PLA sank at the dock! PLA soldiers and sailors, not about meritocracy, not the smartest and best, they paid for their positions! 🇹🇼🩵🇺🇲💙🇺🇦👌
One of the bigger prompt mentioned is that the power plants on the 003 aren’t able to power the electro-magnetic catapult. So, Fujian has to stay in port or have a floating power plant accompany it everywhere. Imagine the first phase of direct combat. Destroy or disable the power plant ship. It’ll be a sitting duck.
They seem to require a lot of diesel, and I don't think energy output of a diesel engine can match the US's nuclear powered ones. They might have to increase the size of the diesel engine to get it up to par, but that'd require even MORE fuel, which would be even more expensive for an ecenomy like theirs.
@@jayc1139 I thought the fujian was nuclear. In any case, it’s been reported the electro-magnetic launcher requires more oomph than the Fujian can muster. A serious oops.
Not at all. So worthless pathetic usn Floating TrailorParks known as carriers Don't go on SHOREPOWER! ENLIGHTEN ME PLEASE! AS the ELITE PLAN, doesn't have a PRESSUIZED WATER MAFIA, their Nuclear Power plants, will be more reliable, require less maintenance, and have more stable manning and crewing needs. Of course as a IGNORANT american. You so wrapped up in bullshitting and Hype. You don't consider these things.
Probably won't be pretty. The worrisome question is, will they learn from this (hope not) or continue making mistakes. This is only their third carrier, and while it might be a disappointment it is showing an ability to learn. Remember, this is really only the second one built and the first one that is a in house design. Yes, they stole a lot of information from US design, but is ignored at our peril.
One way to tell that this is all for show: count how many replenishment oilers China has in comparison to the US. Yeah they're building large numbers of combat ships, but no oilers, and unless few of them are intended to sail more than a few hundred miles from shore, China only has 13 functional replenishment oilers, and only two of them are fast enough to keep up with their carriers. This is a bigger deal for China than it is for the US because none of China's carriers are nuclear.
"This is a bigger deal for China than it is for the US because none of China's carriers are nuclear." is a big deal for the usa as well unless the carriers want to sail without their battle fleet. but your premise is sound.
Not to mention China doesn't have established naval bases around the world to refuel out of. a US oil fueled fleet can sail from San Diego to Sri Lanka and never once stop at a non-american port. The Chinese can't get past Manila without an Oiler.
the people in charge of shit in china are party members. They have never seen real combat or have experience in formation movement within a combat theater. They know politics and where to keep their noses for political clout and favor.
I am still shocked 😅how can a country say we are the #1 power to its people when all the shit is copies from the real #1 people are not that stupid 🎉😂❤
Decoy ships can exist. There was a story that U.S. general were invited to the USSR to see the Soviet's nuclear bomber aircraft fleet. The USSR flew their only three unmarked bombers in a circle. The U.S. general went back to Washington D.C. claiming the Soviets had 300 bombers. The U.S. military industrial complex is going to state that any decoy ship will be a capable navy ship.
@orlock20 in the CCPs rush to build up their navy, they skimped on mass. For example...US Navy ships are double-hulled, CCP-built ships are *not* (proven by a filipino ship, accidentally punching through the single-hull). This allows for quicker build-times. Double-hull ships provide increased safety (if you breach, you won't sink), increased stability (increased control and performance...the extra buoyancy provided by the double-hull further increases stability). To see an example of this, compare the turning radius of a US Naval Carrier vs a CCP Naval Carrier, the CCP can't make those tight turns because they would tip over if they attempted it. The CCP carrier is forced to make large, sweeping turns in comparison. None of this reflects fighting capabilities, this is only to show how accepting the CCP is at finding shortcuts...and that's not how to win a war IMO I just know the basics
I know, right. It's one thing to try to fool your own people or put out propaganda to the world. But when the delusion is so great you start to believe it yourself... that's just suicidal for a military.
China is now the world’s largest ship building country at 44%. 90% of the world’s ship building is in Asia. As a matter of fact for every ship the USA builds China builds 100.
The video looks false. I do not know how else to put it. Where are the skid marks on the non-skid showing planes have used the carrier to take off and land? Rust? Ships in the navy attract rust like a magnet attracts iron filings. Where is the rust?
Bad actors featured in promotional film that they portray as if it's training footage🤣. More broadly, that sort of behavior happens in a copycat culture... it's a form of acting, too.
That's an indication that they are acting. It is very typical of Chinese action movie actors to have that kind of movement and facial expressions. They all came out of the same factory.
China and Russia have a history of paper tigering. We should just set up bases on Taiwan, openly recognize it as a sovereign country, and watch China kick and scream, but do nothing because they know their paper tiger would be exposed. In fact, we ought to recognize Taiwan as official "China" and call the mainland country something other than "China" (Redland?) Also, we should call the "South China Sea" "Asian Sea" instead.
Didn't a Chinese submarine sink in the harbor recently? I thought I read something about it. Apparently it didn't even make it into the ocean. Why should the condition of the rest of the Chinese navy be better?!
The first 3 chinese carriers are likely to be glorified props to practice on. The nest one might get beyond that. Given the state of their economy they should just drop the super carrier attempt, build drone carriers and more destroyers. At least that is if they are going seriously going after the entire 9 dash line and taiwan stuff. If they fight the U.S. in a way the U.S. created? They will get wrecked
OMFG every single thing they have is a knockoff, isn't it? From abover, the aircraft carriers are like, come ON! That's such a blatant copy🤣. Same with the planes - cheapish knockoffs! At least they HAVE an aircraft carrier. Look at Russia - they sent their carrier sailors to be stormtroopers on the front lines, because the "carrier" required tugboats at all times, and now their tugboats need tugboats. So, at least the Chinese carrier could beat the Russian carrier. IDK about subs, though. China's best sub sank in a river? And the navy was so embarrassed, they pretended like nothing happened? Yikes. If the Russian sub force isn't better than THAT, then Jesus... that would be a rough spot to be in.
I think you are immersed in the dream of imperialism and can't wake up. American ships are broken and can't be repaired by themselves, and their astronauts can't come back. Their own chip companies have machines that can't produce them. What is America proud of? Can't you see that the great ship of the United States has gradually sunk?
Everyone has seen in their days at school, two students, one listens to the teacher, does the homework, and genuinely learns, the other is a simpleton who copies the homework of the smarter student. We've seen them get the same grades for their homework but we all know that one of those students is going to be successful in the future and the other will not. This is the tale of those two students told on a national scale.
When you consider the additional power requirements to drive the Electromagnetic catapults on top of ship propulsion . . . there just is no point in building a carrier that isn't nuclear-powered.
Just building lots of ships doesn't make you a competent navy. What is your doctrine? What are your logistics, training, maintenance, manning, rotation it's not a simple matter. You can build lots of ships that just wastefully consume your budget. Look at the Russian navy. Lousy.
It is a long learning curve. It is foolish to claim it is better than Ford or Nimitz class. No one has any clue. Not even PLAN. American took more than 70 years to perfect super carrier operation for a starter.
There are two different aircraft carriers in this film. One is a jump carrier with a deck that angles upward at the end. This is to help aircraft get into the air without a catapult. This method of takeoff limits the range and carrying ability of an aircraft. That is the advantage of an aircraft carrier with a catapult. The catapult, if it works, it’s the aircraft into the air with more fuel and ordinance. Even then, it’s necessary to refuel the aircraft after takeoff to give them the maximum range possible.
Even if they had the money, and they had the fuel, and they had the carrier battle groups to support these carriers, and they had the need for building carrier fleets, and they had the foreign bases to supply the fleets, China has no experience at all operating aircraft carriers in war. The US Navy has millions of man-hours of experience performing high-tempo carrier operations in war. For China to get any relevant experience they would need a few years at war with someone. They will be stopped before they can acquire any relevant experience. There is no point to China operating aircraft carriers. They saw that the US Navy had some big shiny toys and they decided they want some too. They won't be able to do anything with them.
To be fair everyone copies everyone to one degree or another which makes sense from a developer standpoint. But China isn't very good at it which is amazing since their entire economy is based on copying and reproduction of other people's stuff. They never mastered it at any level.
It's one thing lying to your own people who are told not to question anything. It's another to put it out there to the world and have them call you out on that lie
Although US carriers theoretically can lunch and recover aircraft at the same time it is very rare to do so. The except is aircraft carrier qualification when the deck has few aircraft on board. The reason is the aircraft deck movement would cause interference between the two operations with aircraft parked on deck. The problems the Chinese are having indicate they don't have the experience with many systems to make the ship work. The US Navy has been working for over 100 years to develop operations on it's carriers. It is a constant process of the older hands teaching the next generation. Having 20 personal on the flight deck to train the crew will require years to develop the experience needed for one carrier. It is a very fine dance to handle 50 aircraft on the deck.
Actually depending on what's going on and the cycle, you will often have the first cycle returning to land while the second launch is in progress. TH-cam has several videos where you can see this as the standard. This wasn't done as much on older Forrestal Class CVs because they had the forward left lift at the edge of the angled deck/landing area. Some ships also operate faster or slower than others. China's issue in Flight Operations is there are several secrets and unknown aspects that aren't mentioned in TV documentaries or on TH-cam. Standing beside the runway at a training field with three Hornet pilots a few years back during a period of "reaching out", I asked if we were sharing info with the PLANAF. "No, thankfully we aren't that bad,"said one Hornet pilot with a laugh. Brazil taught the Chinese the basics after the US Navy taught Brazil. (Oops!).
Everyone is wondering about the Chinese aircraft carriers, all you have to do is buy some crap from Harbor Freight and see how long that crap lasts and how it works
Yeah it's a copy,,BUT BUT on the keel is a plaque--" MADE IN CHINA ",,,,,,ours says " MADE IN USA " !!!!! Look at their dams,,,,it's clear they saved money and when that dam goes eeeeeeeeeeeee !!! again,,Plaque on the tower says " MADE IN CHINA " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " PINGS" PONG !!!
Does the ship actually exist or is it only on a hard drive? It's so pathetic they can't even get actual footage of the ship at sea. And that turning pic looked like CGI garbage too.
A J-35 carrier prototype has been recently spotted. The assumption is, for use on the type 003. The Type 003 bubble command post raises and lowers. The logical reason it lacks the safety striping, something easily remedied with a couple coats of paint
Carriers rely on radar systems for navigation, air traffic control, and defense. They also use extensive communication systems to coordinate with aircraft and other ships. A smaller radar signature can make it more difficult for enemy missiles and aircraft to lock onto _a section_ of the carrier by complicating targeting solutions, but not to an extent that would ever be relevant.
Remember that an aircraft carrier may well be the most complex piece of equipment humans have ever built. Even more than our space ships. After all, the rockets are only now becoming re-usable, and after every single mission, any re-used component is completely torn apart for inspection and repair before being reused. An aircraft carrier goes to sea for months or years at a time, and all repairs have to be done while it is underway. Dry dock is uncommon for these ships. So if China is copying the US here... it's still going to take quite a while for them to figure out the little details that make the US Navy so durable and dangerous at sea.
I wonder why they are been mocked, I think they are on the right path to building their own ship carrier. They can only get better so long as they continue trying.
I don't know if it's just me, but but does anybody else find it a little suspicious that 90% of the video footage is AI. Generated for the Chinese carrier.
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China is recruiting ex Navy pilots to teach them Fighter tactics and carrier Ops. This should not be allowed . Period.
And those individuals have been being paid paltry sums to betray their own countries, too.
For money? They should be charged with betraying their country.
I’ve heard reports of this also. Shameful.
Money talks BS walks
@@hungnguyen-dm2jx
Money talks BS walks. I am sure this very old principle applies to most of us. Including you.
The US Navy has been playing the aircraft carrier game for a hundred years. They have learned a few things from the wars fought and ships lost. The PLA-N stole as much design detail as they could but many things have to be learned from bitter experience. The Fujian is an expensive learning exercise. The only question is whether the rapidly collapsing Chinese economy and shaky internal political situation will allow the program to continue.
To extend that thought, this isn’t a football match. When China looses in the first season, they’re not going to have an off season to regroup and draft picks to improve their squad. If China starts something, the CCP will be dismantled and China will be rebuilt under a care taker government.
You failed to factor in how the US debt will help plunge the rest of the world into recession when printing dollars finally fail....
The Chinese economic situation is dire and there is no realistic solution in the short term. The Chinese have no job, their house prices are under water, banks don't even distribute real money [weird!] and people don't have the means to have children. They are heading for a catastrophe of a size this planet has not seen before.
Toys like aircraft carriers are expensive when you know what you're doing with that. The Chinese are just inventing how this thing is supposed to work. On top of that there's systemic corruption which is hugely detrimental to the effort.
They're not going to make it. This Fujian thing isn't going to be a threat to anyone.
@@badrobotNG Kinda like how the failed attempt to get communism to work in other countries will work too.
@@howardtreesong4860The theory of China's collapse has been called for decades, but the reality is that it has not collapsed, but has become stronger and stronger.
Rather than mocking the Chinese efforts, we should honor the US Navy technology and logistical achievements. Our carriers are not just technological miracles but also a well-trained 3000 member team.
The US has achieved technological through years experience even since WW2 end
Why not both?
AAs a Chinese, I think you are right. Respect your opponent and look at your opponent objectively.
@@Overneed-Belkan-Witch And this experience was very expensive in terms of time, money, and lives.
You can't just whip up a ship overnight and have the same experience. It doesn't work that way.
@@protorhinocerator142 Yeah, youre right. US has been through a lot since WW2. It shown them Air power through carrier project major dominance in military prowess
How do you find a Chinese submarine? Answer - Look for bubbles.
I saw another vid about this, it puts out a SERIOUS amount of smoke.
More like listen them singing CCP patriotic propaganda song
Same as the Fujian if it ever tries to deploy in a hot situation. Time at sea will be measured in hours....
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🤣😂😅😁...
Over 100 years experience operating and maintaining aircraft carriers in live combat vs China.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🐁
With many lessons paid for in blood.China has a very long way to go to even match the US’s current operational abilities
If nothing else, you have to give the Chinese credit for trying. They do have an idea of what external designs work best by copying US Carriers but what is inside is truly inferior. But the U.S. has over 100 years of experience that you cannot get by copying. What I found humorous was all the talk in this video about stealth. Seriously, who in their right mind thinks that an aircraft carrier is a stealthy vessel?
Not to mention combat experience.
CCP only had 1 modern combat experience but their troops runaway like a chicken leaving behind their equipment and the refugees that they are supposed to protect
*ahem Sudan, ahem
@@rubiantarythere nowhere in Vietnam experience...😊
😂😂😂
When I was younger I had a small sailboat (Laser like class, 4 m long). Every time I returned to port it took me an hour of preventive maintenance to prevent future malfunctions. I can’t imagine how big of a team you would need for preventative maintenance of this complex carrier.
*I can confirm.*
....They have no idea what it takes to be a blue water Navy.
3:57 Not a problem, for the Chinese navy!
@@GizzyDillespeeit is a problem for a real navy then again CCP is a litoral navy or at best close enough to be called “coast guards” lol
They've found that a "tofu nuclear sub", of the PLA sank at the dock! PLA soldiers and sailors, not about meritocracy, not the smartest and best, they paid for their positions! 🇹🇼🩵🇺🇲💙🇺🇦👌
@@GizzyDillespee Their carriers are useless
How do you know? You're a naval strategist? Do you know how to handle a boat ?
I heard their sub sank without a missile hitting it 😂 “Temu”
That would actually be a second sub sinking in like a year lol
Made in communist red China what do you expect???
The Chinesium dissolves in salt water.
Deep sea exploration
Nah. Seeing is believing. Show me the sunken sub or it's just more BS.
Breaking news : Chinese nuclear submarine has sunk after colliding with fishing boat own by a 60 yr old taiwanese
Western propaganda. Submarines are SUPPOSED to sink.
The great China will quickly refloat it as that's what it's supposed to do as well.
JUST WATCH.
Damn, officially first naval kill in 80 years in Chinese civil war and it was done by 60y old with a fishing boat... now that is impressive!
link?
I legit can't tell if you are bsing me or it's real!!!!
@@Soundwave501stfuckin Google is a thing
One of the bigger prompt mentioned is that the power plants on the 003 aren’t able to power the electro-magnetic catapult. So, Fujian has to stay in port or have a floating power plant accompany it everywhere. Imagine the first phase of direct combat. Destroy or disable the power plant ship. It’ll be a sitting duck.
They seem to require a lot of diesel, and I don't think energy output of a diesel engine can match the US's nuclear powered ones. They might have to increase the size of the diesel engine to get it up to par, but that'd require even MORE fuel, which would be even more expensive for an ecenomy like theirs.
@@jayc1139 I thought the fujian was nuclear. In any case, it’s been reported the electro-magnetic launcher requires more oomph than the Fujian can muster. A serious oops.
Hell, all you have to do is damage the connection between the carrier and the power plant ship😂
@@joedomogala4636 a navy seal with a craftsman wire cutter could handle it….🤣
Not at all. So worthless pathetic usn Floating TrailorParks known as carriers Don't go on SHOREPOWER! ENLIGHTEN ME PLEASE! AS the ELITE PLAN, doesn't have a PRESSUIZED WATER MAFIA, their Nuclear Power plants, will be more reliable, require less maintenance, and have more stable manning and crewing needs. Of course as a IGNORANT american. You so wrapped up in bullshitting and Hype. You don't consider these things.
Black smoke is for SOS, they’re lost 😂
Made in China.
What can one expect?!
Made by Temu!!!
Ask Boeing or the American TV or Car industry.
Temu ships.
Cheap knockoff of the real thing
Beshi din Jaye Naa.
The only time the ccp can say "we have a big deck".
Buh dum.. Ting! 😂
"We have a big deck"
Quote: Admiral Long Wang.
@@BigDave423 hahahahaha led by Fa King Xit ya?
@@BigDave423communism has ruined China 🇨🇳
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All the Chinese carrier ops are cgi, all the American carrier ops are live footage.
live footage since carriers were a thing.
That carrier shakedown will be a disaster
Probably won't be pretty. The worrisome question is, will they learn from this (hope not) or continue making mistakes. This is only their third carrier, and while it might be a disappointment it is showing an ability to learn. Remember, this is really only the second one built and the first one that is a in house design. Yes, they stole a lot of information from US design, but is ignored at our peril.
One way to tell that this is all for show: count how many replenishment oilers China has in comparison to the US. Yeah they're building large numbers of combat ships, but no oilers, and unless few of them are intended to sail more than a few hundred miles from shore, China only has 13 functional replenishment oilers, and only two of them are fast enough to keep up with their carriers. This is a bigger deal for China than it is for the US because none of China's carriers are nuclear.
"This is a bigger deal for China than it is for the US because none of China's carriers are nuclear." is a big deal for the usa as well unless the carriers want to sail without their battle fleet. but your premise is sound.
Not to mention China doesn't have established naval bases around the world to refuel out of. a US oil fueled fleet can sail from San Diego to Sri Lanka and never once stop at a non-american port. The Chinese can't get past Manila without an Oiler.
the people in charge of shit in china are party members. They have never seen real combat or have experience in formation movement within a combat theater. They know politics and where to keep their noses for political clout and favor.
I am still shocked 😅how can a country say we are the #1 power to its people when all the shit is copies from the real #1 people are not that stupid 🎉😂❤
Yes the Chinese certainly do have a strange and far from realistic belief in there abilities ,, It is quite hilarious 😂
Despite the sheer quantity of ships in the Chinese Navy, the US Navy has far more tonnage to throw around
Decoy ships can exist. There was a story that U.S. general were invited to the USSR to see the Soviet's nuclear bomber aircraft fleet. The USSR flew their only three unmarked bombers in a circle. The U.S. general went back to Washington D.C. claiming the Soviets had 300 bombers. The U.S. military industrial complex is going to state that any decoy ship will be a capable navy ship.
@@orlock20China's warships are papier-mache, with wooden skeletons, powered by burning wood😂
@orlock20 in the CCPs rush to build up their navy, they skimped on mass. For example...US Navy ships are double-hulled, CCP-built ships are *not* (proven by a filipino ship, accidentally punching through the single-hull). This allows for quicker build-times. Double-hull ships provide increased safety (if you breach, you won't sink), increased stability (increased control and performance...the extra buoyancy provided by the double-hull further increases stability). To see an example of this, compare the turning radius of a US Naval Carrier vs a CCP Naval Carrier, the CCP can't make those tight turns because they would tip over if they attempted it. The CCP carrier is forced to make large, sweeping turns in comparison. None of this reflects fighting capabilities, this is only to show how accepting the CCP is at finding shortcuts...and that's not how to win a war IMO
I just know the basics
At least it didn't sink.
. . . Yet
...this time!
roflmao
Yet!
It hasn't hit a small fish yet...
Last place I would want to be is at sea with Communist Chinese Tofo Dredge technology. ITS HARD TO BELIEVE The Ccp takes themselves seriously. 😂😂😂
Its all for showing.
I know, right. It's one thing to try to fool your own people or put out propaganda to the world. But when the delusion is so great you start to believe it yourself... that's just suicidal for a military.
@@philipwong5858 They plan to parade this carrier down Red Square next to the T-14 Armata tank.
China is now the world’s largest ship building country at 44%. 90% of the world’s ship building is in Asia. As a matter of fact for every ship the USA builds China builds 100.
That ship is probably a RC model that they're playing in the bathtub with 😂🤣
what is it about the ccp and it's use of those camera cuts and cartoon angles?😂😂
all media is designed to appeal to the target audience
historically, the largest portion of the audience are idiots
Looks animated
Yes, the best China can do is AI. Generated combat operation
75% of the video is. Not a single real shot from the Chinese of the new stuff. 😅😅😅😅
Safety! We don’t need to freakin safety.
The video looks false. I do not know how else to put it. Where are the skid marks on the non-skid showing planes have used the carrier to take off and land? Rust? Ships in the navy attract rust like a magnet attracts iron filings. Where is the rust?
They haven't done any actual flight operations, the vid said they were doing simulated operations. It did look like a nice paint job.
DCS has better visuals of flight ops.
What is with the almost identical robotized movements of Chinese military personnel???
They lack the discipline to do things in unison.
Bad actors featured in promotional film that they portray as if it's training footage🤣. More broadly, that sort of behavior happens in a copycat culture... it's a form of acting, too.
That's an indication that they are acting. It is very typical of Chinese action movie actors to have that kind of movement and facial expressions. They all came out of the same factory.
And may I ask, ( I know this sounds beyond naive) are Chinese Military personnel allowed any sort of input??
China and Russia have a history of paper tigering. We should just set up bases on Taiwan, openly recognize it as a sovereign country, and watch China kick and scream, but do nothing because they know their paper tiger would be exposed.
In fact, we ought to recognize Taiwan as official "China" and call the mainland country something other than "China" (Redland?) Also, we should call the "South China Sea" "Asian Sea" instead.
Didn't a Chinese submarine sink in the harbor recently? I thought I read something about it. Apparently it didn't even make it into the ocean. Why should the condition of the rest of the Chinese navy be better?!
Good information. I enjoy a concise, understandable, well made video with accurate data. Thank you.
The aircraft carrier seems to be lacking in aircraft.
Funny about that....mmm
Let’s not forget that China is missing over “100 years” of carrier combat experience! Not something that you can just easily underestimate.
"Not something you can just easily underestimate".
What the hell are you trying to say,? That is basically gibberish.....
They copied every little details even different deck crew color shirts, hand signals, etc.
US Navy needs to stop recruiting China spies.
Why reinvent the wheel?
A lot of Temu grade aircraft.
The first 3 chinese carriers are likely to be glorified props to practice on. The nest one might get beyond that. Given the state of their economy they should just drop the super carrier attempt, build drone carriers and more destroyers. At least that is if they are going seriously going after the entire 9 dash line and taiwan stuff. If they fight the U.S. in a way the U.S. created? They will get wrecked
A bad dream comes true. A giant coral reef to be.
OMFG every single thing they have is a knockoff, isn't it? From abover, the aircraft carriers are like, come ON! That's such a blatant copy🤣. Same with the planes - cheapish knockoffs!
At least they HAVE an aircraft carrier. Look at Russia - they sent their carrier sailors to be stormtroopers on the front lines, because the "carrier" required tugboats at all times, and now their tugboats need tugboats. So, at least the Chinese carrier could beat the Russian carrier.
IDK about subs, though. China's best sub sank in a river? And the navy was so embarrassed, they pretended like nothing happened? Yikes. If the Russian sub force isn't better than THAT, then Jesus... that would be a rough spot to be in.
I think you are immersed in the dream of imperialism and can't wake up. American ships are broken and can't be repaired by themselves, and their astronauts can't come back. Their own chip companies have machines that can't produce them. What is America proud of? Can't you see that the great ship of the United States has gradually sunk?
Warships are only as good as their crews. If the hanger and deck personnel are not well trained, the ship will not last long in a combat situation.
could be worse......like their underwater nuclear submarine.
but we expect submarines to be underwater right?
Everyone has seen in their days at school, two students, one listens to the teacher, does the homework, and genuinely learns, the other is a simpleton who copies the homework of the smarter student. We've seen them get the same grades for their homework but we all know that one of those students is going to be successful in the future and the other will not. This is the tale of those two students told on a national scale.
Japanese Fisherman: Oh Look Chinese aircraft carrier! Kawaii!!
You're telling me they found problems dueng a sea trial? Shocker...
Thanks for this channel. I really enjoy. And the channel's woman translater's accuracy😊
When you consider the additional power requirements to drive the Electromagnetic catapults on top of ship propulsion . . . there just is no point in building a carrier that isn't nuclear-powered.
Just building lots of ships doesn't make you a competent navy. What is your doctrine? What are your logistics, training, maintenance, manning, rotation it's not a simple matter. You can build lots of ships that just wastefully consume your budget. Look at the Russian navy. Lousy.
Not to mention Chineseium steal is absolute trash!!
@@amorosogombe9650 agreed . And still usa lost to china . Why is that ?
@@daveg-Vancouver_Island agreed but why did yankeeium usa lost to chinesium ?
I think there's a fruit loop here who is confused.
the same philosophy of building huge ghost cities that hold zero population
its money laundering gone to extremes
This is an excellent video. The best and most detailed I have seen so far on the fujian
Have they set a bomb off beside it like the americans do to see how the construction is?
It is a long learning curve. It is foolish to claim it is better than Ford or Nimitz class. No one has any clue. Not even PLAN. American took more than 70 years to perfect super carrier operation for a starter.
Agreed, PLAN has no “under combat conditions” experience whatsoever.
Does no one see the large amount of AI generated graphics in this video? It makes up most of it!
why are we watching a CG movie?
They showed sailing empty deck of course can full speed
2:10 is CGI I am sour with that
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There are two different aircraft carriers in this film. One is a jump carrier with a deck that angles upward at the end. This is to help aircraft get into the air without a catapult. This method of takeoff limits the range and carrying ability of an aircraft. That is the advantage of an aircraft carrier with a catapult. The catapult, if it works, it’s the aircraft into the air with more fuel and ordinance. Even then, it’s necessary to refuel the aircraft after takeoff to give them the maximum range possible.
Even if they had the money, and they had the fuel, and they had the carrier battle groups to support these carriers, and they had the need for building carrier fleets, and they had the foreign bases to supply the fleets, China has no experience at all operating aircraft carriers in war.
The US Navy has millions of man-hours of experience performing high-tempo carrier operations in war.
For China to get any relevant experience they would need a few years at war with someone. They will be stopped before they can acquire any relevant experience.
There is no point to China operating aircraft carriers. They saw that the US Navy had some big shiny toys and they decided they want some too.
They won't be able to do anything with them.
She'll make a great artificial reef !
In summary, they are way behind.
Can China create a ship w/o duplicates? Hahaha! ...QUALITY? Oh, the world knows what "MADE IN CHINA" is.
Even their new battle rifle is a US copy of the M4.
To be fair everyone copies everyone to one degree or another which makes sense from a developer standpoint. But China isn't very good at it which is amazing since their entire economy is based on copying and reproduction of other people's stuff. They never mastered it at any level.
It's one thing lying to your own people who are told not to question anything. It's another to put it out there to the world and have them call you out on that lie
Although US carriers theoretically can lunch and recover aircraft at the same time it is very rare to do so. The except is aircraft carrier qualification when the deck has few aircraft on board. The reason is the aircraft deck movement would cause interference between the two operations with aircraft parked on deck. The problems the Chinese are having indicate they don't have the experience with many systems to make the ship work. The US Navy has been working for over 100 years to develop operations on it's carriers. It is a constant process of the older hands teaching the next generation. Having 20 personal on the flight deck to train the crew will require years to develop the experience needed for one carrier. It is a very fine dance to handle 50 aircraft on the deck.
Actually depending on what's going on and the cycle, you will often have the first cycle returning to land while the second launch is in progress. TH-cam has several videos where you can see this as the standard. This wasn't done as much on older Forrestal Class CVs because they had the forward left lift at the edge of the angled deck/landing area. Some ships also operate faster or slower than others. China's issue in Flight Operations is there are several secrets and unknown aspects that aren't mentioned in TV documentaries or on TH-cam. Standing beside the runway at a training field with three Hornet pilots a few years back during a period of "reaching out", I asked if we were sharing info with the PLANAF. "No, thankfully we aren't that bad,"said one Hornet pilot with a laugh. Brazil taught the Chinese the basics after the US Navy taught Brazil. (Oops!).
Tofu Dreg Ship... it just has to look good; AKA look like the US.
Wow I didn't know Temu have carriers for sale 😂
Their latest engine takes gas, coal, and hotpot soup...
@@danhtran6401 and gutter oil
Just let them believe in their own foolishness. Its just a propaganda for their people to see.
Everyone is wondering about the Chinese aircraft carriers, all you have to do is buy some crap from Harbor Freight and see how long that crap lasts and how it works
Chyna steals everything...
Does the Fujian come with its own tug boat? 😊
Yeah it's a copy,,BUT BUT on the keel is a plaque--" MADE IN CHINA ",,,,,,ours says " MADE IN USA " !!!!! Look at their dams,,,,it's clear they saved money and when that dam goes eeeeeeeeeeeee !!! again,,Plaque on the tower says " MADE IN CHINA " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " PINGS" PONG !!!
What trying to buy a Ford class off Temu looks like.
"Tilt" when a ship is turning, is called "heeling" on a ship or boat.
Fujian is 😛China that translates to "Happy Establishment".
Lol it's diesel powered. You'd think China would know how to build a nuclear powered carrier.
Was that a musical edit error, or just me? 😂
😂😂 I don't know but it got me paying attention again lol
@@robertprior94 It was the CCP's Belt and Road Initiative song. It's pretty horrible and the video is worse.
Does the ship actually exist or is it only on a hard drive? It's so pathetic they can't even get actual footage of the ship at sea. And that turning pic looked like CGI garbage too.
Another Russian Technology aircraft carrier, with signature smoke.
Why so many poor computer generated images of planes on decks and taking off?
Those little visible shortcomings may not be critical and may be easily fixed, but they tell on who refined is the overall design
Lets also not forget Chinese steel and materials are doo doo
Look up their 2012 national-level plan to develop good enough steel for a ballpoint pen.
It took 5 years.
I got to say it looks really slick !
🤣🤣🤣 TOFU
If fujian aircraft carrier can beat MADE IN USA probably by then America aircraft carrier can fly
A J-35 carrier prototype has been recently spotted. The assumption is, for use on the type 003.
The Type 003 bubble command post raises and lowers. The logical reason it lacks the safety striping, something easily remedied with a couple coats of paint
China Observer: the new Chinese aircraft carrier is a cheap.....
Rest of the world: We don't care...
Thank you buddy
Carriers rely on radar systems for navigation, air traffic control, and defense. They also use extensive communication systems to coordinate with aircraft and other ships. A smaller radar signature can make it more difficult for enemy missiles and aircraft to lock onto _a section_ of the carrier by complicating targeting solutions, but not to an extent that would ever be relevant.
Remember that an aircraft carrier may well be the most complex piece of equipment humans have ever built. Even more than our space ships. After all, the rockets are only now becoming re-usable, and after every single mission, any re-used component is completely torn apart for inspection and repair before being reused. An aircraft carrier goes to sea for months or years at a time, and all repairs have to be done while it is underway. Dry dock is uncommon for these ships.
So if China is copying the US here... it's still going to take quite a while for them to figure out the little details that make the US Navy so durable and dangerous at sea.
Son, you ain’t never gonna have a stealth aircraft carrier!
So their big scary carrier is worthless and they sank their own submarine. Communism in a nutshell. 😂
Not communism, state-controlled socialism, which leads to grift.
The Chinese copy everything. But there ain’t nothin like the real thing, baby.
Aircrafts carriers without planes flying... it's funny !
Launching an aircraft from a catapult and ramp is completely different
The Temu Nimitz, can’t wait for the shock tests😊
China is not a near peer.
I saw a Blackhawk chopper, a Hawkeye, an F35, and a Flopping Shark. Copyright laws have been broken here. Stealing is bad, horry fruk.
It's the Admiral Kuznetsov of the Chinese navy
As a Navy Veteran, it seems like this imagery is cgi mostly. I may be wrong.
Be like China, they said. lol
All that really matters is the quality and size of the air wing
I wonder why they are been mocked, I think they are on the right path to building their own ship carrier. They can only get better so long as they continue trying.
I don't know if it's just me, but but does anybody else find it a little suspicious that 90% of the video footage is AI. Generated for the Chinese carrier.
This is the CCPs lame propaganda video the narrator is commenting on.
Its cute they copy everything we do. Right down to the colors worn by deck crew types. Its like a little brother that tries so hard to impress🤡🤡🤡🤡
That is all the Chinese will ever be, little brothers crying for attention from other siblings.
Lots of CGI and fancy visuals but no footage of actual flight ops on the ships. Little brother still in the play area with his toys.
This too is a paper tiger. It looks good when flaunting it. But it no way looks battle built.