Pamiętam te ME. Były dwa polskie półfinały Grubba-Persson i Kucharski-Carlsson. Chyba, mogę sie mylić co do Carlssona. No i wszyscy obstawiali finał Grubba-Kucharski a tu niespodzianka i Persson wygrał. W samym finale to było zderzenie dwóch światów. Z jednej strony wyluzowany Persson, wtedy już wicemistrz świata w drużynie ale generalnie zawodnik na dorobku. Wygra to dobrze a jak nie to za dwa lata sie uda. Z drugiej Kucharz, dla którego to była być może impreza życia. W sensie indywidualnym. Podobno do rana nie mógł zasnąć z nerwów i prawdopodobnie "przegrał" jeszcze zanim podszedł do stołu. Szkoda przegranej i życzyłbym sobie zobaczyć jakiegoś Polaka w finale takiej imprezy.
I think it's kind of funny how this video was recorded in the 1980s, but most of ITTF's videos now, in 2014, look like this video in the age of HD. Hmm, funny how that works.
Whoaa what a treat! I have never seen Kucharski before. He put up a good match against Persson. The game is so different from todays. Persson was not even 20 yrs of age....still a teen.
Only one player tossing the ball up correctly for what constitutes a legal serve today. From memory, the 6 inch ball toss from a flat palm, 45% from the vertical would have come in around the time this match was played?
The new bigger ball is way better than that thing. The new ball has a much better balance of spin, speed, and control. So its easier to play the game with fewer errors and that's a good thing. Also, I'm only 1600. lol
Może widać to po jego grze i zachowaniu gdy mu coś nie wychodziło ? W porównaniu do Persona który skupił się tylko i wyłącznie na grze. Na jedno trzeba tylko zwrócić uwagę że w tych latach byliśmy zakompleksieni przez komunę on chciał coś osiągnąć a gdy mu nie wychodziło to się wku^wiał, podejrzewam że łatwo nie było wtedy żeby się wybić :)
Detherocable No doubt, but how would Persson fair up against Ma or Xu or Jike today? The game has gotten so much faster. I do like the European players but the Chinese have powered their way through in the last 10 years or so.
Rathky M Back then the chinese team looked unbeatable as well. Yet the young swedish team would adapt and ultimately beat them. I think that would also be true today. Creativity and strategy can sometimes over come the mechanical powerplay of the chinese. look up Waldner (44 years or so old) vs Ma Long in 2010. Ma won but it was far from a blow out and Waldner's close to the table blocking made Ma look silly several times. I have no doubt that a younger Waldner would find a way to beat MA and Jike just like he beat Liu guilang and Wang Liguin, both faster and more powerful players.
olaniyi570 Perhaps so, but even when Waldner was young and more agile, he was not as flexible as the Chinese, the body movement was slower by comparison and I would assume it has something to do with body weight and body type that makes European players look like stiffs at certain moments of the game. I have watched so many encounters between Chinese and European players over the years, I actually concentrated on reflexes and body movements more so than who won the point or the match. I am not saying Waldner was not a great player; contrary to that, he was one of the best if not the best to ever play and influence the game.
Rathky M no, you are wrong and unfair. typical modern thimking. the chinesebwere on top even then. yet europeans sometimesbprevailed. today the game is NOT enjiyable, speedbfucked it up
the first game I ever watched on TV - made me start playing until today ;).
Kucharski,the Mc Enroe of table tennis.Great Player.
True icons of table tennis. Their style of playing was very natural. It's a great pleasure to see such real talents.
I was skipping videos on TH-cam and now I read a commentary from Mr Professor. World is surprising :)
Świetni gracze. Introwertyk Perrson, choleryk Kucharski dali świetne przedstawienie. Dzięki panowie.
What an excellent match...both players are giving it everything they've got.
Pamiętam te ME. Były dwa polskie półfinały Grubba-Persson i Kucharski-Carlsson. Chyba, mogę sie mylić co do Carlssona. No i wszyscy obstawiali finał Grubba-Kucharski a tu niespodzianka i Persson wygrał. W samym finale to było zderzenie dwóch światów. Z jednej strony wyluzowany Persson, wtedy już wicemistrz świata w drużynie ale generalnie zawodnik na dorobku. Wygra to dobrze a jak nie to za dwa lata sie uda. Z drugiej Kucharz, dla którego to była być może impreza życia. W sensie indywidualnym. Podobno do rana nie mógł zasnąć z nerwów i prawdopodobnie "przegrał" jeszcze zanim podszedł do stołu. Szkoda przegranej i życzyłbym sobie zobaczyć jakiegoś Polaka w finale takiej imprezy.
I think it's kind of funny how this video was recorded in the 1980s, but most of ITTF's videos now, in 2014, look like this video in the age of HD. Hmm, funny how that works.
Five consecutive swedish european champions in men' s singles from 1982- 1990! The suite started and ended with Appelgren.
Pan Leszek przegrał ten mecz w głowie. Umiejętnościami nie odstawał.
Whoaa what a treat! I have never seen Kucharski before. He put up a good match against Persson. The game is so different from todays. Persson was not even 20 yrs of age....still a teen.
Chodzę do Leszka na treningi, świetny trener i zawodnik jak widać!
What à backhand from Persson !! And Kucharski seemed so angry after each point. What a pressure ...
Maciek , znowu to oglądamy :)
Classic backhand master wrist - 38 mm ball - real table tennis ball !
Fantastiskt att du har den här matchen! D är du nog i princip ensam om! Tack för uppladningen!
Keanu Reeves got an Oscar after this perfomance!
Not the same mentality, isn't it?
perrson vs john wick
Great entertaining old school match!
12:55 LOL and look at the backhand smash at 13:05 ..... whoa!!!
Persson with a green Donic Vario on the backand :-o
I heard that Grubba and Kucharski never got on, that is sad. They were both so great players. Anyone knows more about this?
fantastic double they were...
since we r being technical Persson's constant stomping would not fly these days either...either way, epic backhand and feel for the ball
JORGEN PERSSON...BEST.BACKHAND.EVER!!
Best backhand in the world belongs to Andrzej Grubba.
Du vrai tennis de table avec des joueurs au style different. Maintenant, on a l'impression de voir des clones à la table.
Only one player tossing the ball up correctly for what constitutes a legal serve today. From memory, the 6 inch ball toss from a flat palm, 45% from the vertical would have come in around the time this match was played?
kucharski's serve would be soo illegal now
Person also. He coever ball
covering was allowed. kucha dont throw the ball at least 15 cm ...
Perrson didnt seem to be troubled by it
,why did the jughes not give leszec
A warning for the way he served
Szwedzi ogrywali naszych, byli lepsi, głowy chłodniejsze.
Czemu nie kopał w stół ? Czyżby ultimatum?
Lol, Kucharski "commenting" every lost point from the 2nd game onwards. Probably didn't help his concentration! :-D
Cant see a >15, 25cm Kucharski ball throw at his serve
Głowy są ważne i nogi w 🎾 tenisie stolowym
The new bigger ball is way better than that thing. The new ball has a much better balance of spin, speed, and control. So its easier to play the game with fewer errors and that's a good thing. Also, I'm only 1600. lol
38mm better, more speen, real table tennis
Fun 2 see the numbers on the back. Kind of unnecessary and wrinkly at the same time
No ball toss of 6 inches:) straight off the hand.
polish power i polish
irregular serve, kucha!
Kucharski jest zbyt nerwowy do tenisa stołowego. Dlatego nie wygrywał
Choleryk kontra introwertyk
Zero toss on Kucharski's serves.
Pretty nice illegal serve by Kuharski..
There was no height requirement then.
Leszek byl slaby psychologicznie
A SKAD TO WIESZ BYLES JEGO KUMPLEM GRALES Z NIM JAK NIE TO GLUPOT NIE OPOWIADAJ.
Może widać to po jego grze i zachowaniu gdy mu coś nie wychodziło ? W porównaniu do Persona który skupił się tylko i wyłącznie na grze. Na jedno trzeba tylko zwrócić uwagę że w tych latach byliśmy zakompleksieni przez komunę on chciał coś osiągnąć a gdy mu nie wychodziło to się wku^wiał, podejrzewam że łatwo nie było wtedy żeby się wybić :)
Co ma tu komuna do gry w tenisa stołowego.Filmik pokazuje wszystko.
Этот Лежек псих какой то
Неспортивное поведение у него
These guys would lose 0-4 with today's players. The game has gotten so much faster with better serves and attacking power.
You've clearly overlooked Beijing 2008, where a 42-year old Persson held his ground vs Wang Hao.
Detherocable No doubt, but how would Persson fair up against Ma or Xu or Jike today? The game has gotten so much faster. I do like the European players but the Chinese have powered their way through in the last 10 years or so.
Rathky M Back then the chinese team looked unbeatable as well. Yet the young swedish team would adapt and ultimately beat them. I think that would also be true today. Creativity and strategy can sometimes over come the mechanical powerplay of the chinese. look up Waldner (44 years or so old) vs Ma Long in 2010. Ma won but it was far from a blow out and Waldner's close to the table blocking made Ma look silly several times. I have no doubt that a younger Waldner would find a way to beat MA and Jike just like he beat Liu guilang and Wang Liguin, both faster and more powerful players.
olaniyi570 Perhaps so, but even when Waldner was young and more agile, he was not as flexible as the Chinese, the body movement was slower by comparison and I would assume it has something to do with body weight and body type that makes European players look like stiffs at certain moments of the game. I have watched so many encounters between Chinese and European players over the years, I actually concentrated on reflexes and body movements more so than who won the point or the match.
I am not saying Waldner was not a great player; contrary to that, he was one of the best if not the best to ever play and influence the game.
Rathky M no, you are wrong and unfair. typical modern thimking. the chinesebwere on top even then. yet europeans sometimesbprevailed. today the game is NOT enjiyable, speedbfucked it up