2017 AT&T American Cup - NBC Broadcast
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- March 4, 2017 - Prudential Center - Newark, N.J.
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I think this needs to be said: Nastia is a very good commentator and she deserves all the credit for it!!!
Yes! There was so much heavy criticism when she first started, but I think the skill required for this level as a commentator goes unrecognized. It's watching everything, critiquing everything in your head and choosing exactly what to comment on and how to word it, keeping the pace of the commentary consistent and flowing appropriately with the competition, minimizing dead air except during choice points in routines, making sure you're correct technically in everything you say, making sure that every word is acceptable to gymnastics governing bodies in the US and internationally, controlling your breathing, controlling you speaking speed and tone, the pressure from being watched and heard by millions, all recorded, all for hours on end. It's mentally and physically taxing, and it takes time to learn to do it well.
People fuss about Tim needing to retire, and while I like him fine (except he needs to remember that "heighTH" is not a word), they cannot switch out everybody at once. Nastia needed a few years to get solid before anybody could consider Tim's retirement. I'd like to see Jonathan Horton take over for Tim eventually -- the commentating of his that I've seen is quite good.
I'm ready for someone new to replace Al Trautwig, but again, it can't all be done at once. It would be like an entire sports team of rookies.
You can talk as much smack on the commentators as you want but they're the only reason I know what little I do about gymnastics haha Tim is good at explaining how things work
"Nastia if you ever did have a disaster....."
Al, you were there for 2006-2007
Right? I was like "Bruh, you commented on quite a few of them. You getting dementia there?"
AfanasyevaFan this is late. But also the comeback in 2012
There is definitely an improvement in Nastias commentary since 2015. Noticed it at the Olympics and noticed during this broadcast, a lot more confidence in her voice and input.
"if you can keep your deductions to a minimum, you're good" and in other news water is wet
followed by "that is if you are a good gymnast".
"Stop trying to make the color score system happen"- Regina George
LOL
Bwahaha! So true!
Tim has been explaining that every meet since 2006 😂 😑
nastia's commentating has improved
I'm glad they explained the low scoring. I saw the international feed last week and thought that the judges were being unfairly rough. I really like Yul Muldauer. His form is very nice (pointed toes, legs together, etc)!
Knowing what we know now about MH, I came back to watch this comp. So awful what Riley and Laurie were going through. Riley was "beat up" for a reason. Heartbreaking
Same 😭 like when she fell off of bars I swear when Maggie came up to her she looked scared. And it made me so sad
The handshake between yul and his coach was goals 😂
I was a little disappointed for Riley this competition but very proud she was able to come back and do her floor routine. as Al, Tim & Nastia said she is a new senior and just needs a bit of experience under her belt and she will be fine
love seeing new talent for USA Gymnastics.
I really loved Riley’s floor routine- I loved her choreography! In fact this routine kind of reminded me a little bit of Lilia Podkapaeva’s in 1996!
I am so proud of Reagan! she had alot of disapointment around RIO but she sees to have come back stronger and she will make it to tokyo!
Ragan actually took the alternate position very positively! I think she's going to be the front runner of USA Gymnastics this year!
Wow that did not age well at all
Sadly injury ended that possibility. I doubt you’ll see her try for Paris either. It’s tough but that is the way the sport works unfortunately.
Thank you so much for posting this!
I love Nastia as a commentator. Class act!
Thank you so much!!!
LOL Even Tim calls him King Kohei. I can't even.
And I was literally just trying to watch this on NBC too, let's go
Honestly watching Riley’s coach now makes me feel just weird. She didn’t even go up to check on her with that scary fall 😐
I really hope we are not going to have to hear about Nastia and her dad's relationship every competition for the next quadrenniam.
3 yrs latter and this still happens at every meet 😂😂
Great event
Tim Daggett: If you happen to be reading this, there is no such word as "heigth." The word you're looking for is "height." Have a good day!
Yul Moldauer is definitely on my radar now 👀👀👀👀👀👀
same HAHAHAHA.
Sorry Tim. Yes USA has dominated since 2011 but the Karolyi's did not create the greatest dynasty in the history of gymnastics, that title still belongs to the completely dominant Soviet Gymnasts
How many did the Soviets win in a row?
Every gold medal from 1952-1980 in the women's team final. And a total of 72 golds compared to the USA's 37
molly inglis we have people like Simone aly now regan Riley
Lara Amaro Not if they take long breaks to go to every RED CARPET EVENT, AND INTERVIEW. That is more important to them than winning medals. They are athletes not Hollywood actresses.
You think Simone Biles, Laurie Hernandez, and Aly Raisman will not come back to compete again?
LOVE
The US Men always interest me. From my point of view they always come out strong for Qualifications then Break down for Team Finals. The Japanese Men do the opposite. they usually underperform in Qualifications then Surge for Team Finals. so weird 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Knowing what we know now, Valari Liukin saying, "don't change anything," sounds a little ominous.
I had actually said in my heart that Valeri Lukin would be the perfect choice to give the women's gymnastics team and they actually gave it to him -- I'm speechless --- happy speechless
I always appreciate Asuka's presentation
Why do they keep changing the scoring system I just started to understand the old one
Because of the Code of Points. It has ALWAYS been like that. Even when it was the 10.0 system, they constantly needed to be upgraded and changed. The first year post-Olympics in the new Olympic Cycle with a new Code of Points, is always the most underscored.
As a viewer, I do cringe when I see major falls and mess ups, but I'm aware that gymnastics is super difficult at this level. I hope all the competitors know they're all great athletes going against each other.
Can't wait for P and G championships this year! I think Riley has something. She actually reminds me a lot of Nastia.
yul and akosh are adorable together
Did anyone else find themselves singing along or doing something during Regan's Floor Routine? That song is my favorite Grace that we do down at Camp!!!
Did anyone else notice that on Riley’s dismount she didn’t really get her second foot down on the first bhs? It started then not just in the second bhs
These girls better get it while the goings good. Cuz once the supreme queen (Aka Simone) is back on the scene, shits gonna get real!!
That being said, Raegan has a lot more work to do but I'm confident she can up that difficulty and get more consistent.
Very impressive
"This is rileys weakest event she really is good on the uneven bars and balance beam" -Nastia *Falls on bars... *Falls on Beam and almost breaks neck... Way to go nastia
Go USA
Yul Moldauer is a superb talent and in no doubt will be the new star for the US men, but I hate the way Tim Daggett is hyping him up in this first senior international unnecessarily! He hypes the US men up all the time, then when it really counts they don't deliver.
true, they do have talent but have yet to put it all together at the Olympics since '08 when they were so clearly the underdogs. but there is something about yul that does scream special, more so than when mikulak first came on the scene. but like every amazing junior that pops up I just want to protect them from injury and burn out and hope for success.
I adore Yul's gymnastics. Really clean, gorgeous, and consistent. But you're totally right that Tim needs to stop unnecessarily hyping him up. Like Tim was saying that Sam Mikulak could challenge Kohei and possibly win the all around when that just isn't realistic. Like at best if Sam hit 6 for 6 (which basically never happens) he could have maybe challenged Max Whitlock for bronze.
Yes exactly! Anybody could have challenged Whitlock for the bronze whereas Kohei and Oleg were heads and shoulders above the rest of the field. I hope Yul has a bright future because the US men really do need it, I just fear that he could end up in the same net as the rest of the US team, not delivering when it counts most. And part of that problem is poor coaching.
I mean Yul did just beat Oleg though. That's a big deal
Adam Travis He did but Oleg didn't have his best day. Had he been on form Oleg would have certainly have beaten Yul.
I know after this competition a lot of people were saying that the end of The US women dominance was over. I say to those people R. E. L. A. X.
This is a big rebuilding year for Team USA. with no returning Olympians and a bunch of new seniors.
Those people have probably overlooked the fact that Simone, Aly, Laurie and Madison have all expressed interest in returning to elite.
Craig Tilley exactly. Thankfully there is no team competition this year at world championships so the US has time to get our girls a lot of competitive experience in big meets.
Craig Tilley I am very excited for P&G Championships & World Championships this year and next year to see who can step up in the absence of Simone Biles to be the next AA champion
Marta helped to put the championship-class system in place. Valeri will do a fine job as the new head coordinator. USA has SO many gymnasts to choose from. I knew of a couple of women who had to compete for other nations, since there wasn't room on the US team. Too competitive.
trinibwoy27 The next AA champion is obviously Morgan Hurd
At this point after 2020 they might as well go back to the 10.0 scoring system. Because that's how low the scores would probably be anyways.😂
It is the FIRST year after the Olympics. Therefore, a new Code of Points which means routines have to be restructured. I think they will get better as the years go on.
Ok Riley mccusker did not get a 7.2 execution on bars. she fell, took .5 worth of swings after she fell, hit her feet on the floor, and had multiple form breaks and a hop on the landing. Yet only 2.8 was taken?? WAY OVERSCORED
Rileys floor music sounds so much like 'This is Halloween' from the nightmare before christmas
Well that's because it is This is Halloween
Remored it is
I noticed that, too!
"She is a person." Thanks for clarifying that!
what is going to be the new team composition if its not 5 girls?
Amy Patterson 4
Tim go away and let Nastia speak
so sad to believe that both of the us girls' coaches were abusive with the gymnasts
The US men I am excited for this new quad are Yul, Akash, Donnell, John Orozco coming back from injury and obviously the returning Olympians Chris Brooks, Danell Lleyva, Sam Mikulak, Alex Naddour & Jake Dalton
trinibwoy27 Donnell Wittenberg is the United States best chance for the men to win Gold Medals. He has tremendous strength. Donnell Wittenberg has great techniques especially on rings, and high bar.
Michael Silverman He is obviously weak in a few events like Pommel but definitely a force on Rings, P Bars & Vault
100% Reagan and Riley, 75% Asuka, 50% kim and Dutch, 25% Chinese girl and 0% who ever you be. Thats why I prefer BBC, a sprinkle of everybody.
Melanie my girl, your time to shine will come
can someone tell me what Rylie's bars dismount is called? it looks so cool!
Salto fwd with ½ turn (180°) into salto bwd tucked or [Half-in back out]. Basically it's almost the same dismount as Nastia's from 2008 but Nastia did the ½ turn in the second salto instead of the first.
Olivia Hill Its called a half in back out
Ragan's a tiny little powerhouse
I like to see more of the Euro gymnasts. As well as the Americans and Canadians.
Oleg you are the best. Good luck.
And once again, Tim Daggett can go pound sand.
Sigh really hoped to see eythora thorsdottir competing!!
Netherlands is definitely one of my favorite teams to watch. Eythora especially
Victor Mendoza they competed in Stuttgart
chushiben tisha volleman was here
no ethora is stupid dumb and she has the most ridiculous choreographry ever!!! she makes a fool of herself while the judges are trying not to laugh and comentaters try not to make her sound like the fool that she is
they said that Marta & Bela created the Biggest Dynasty in Gymnastics!!! I thought it was Lioned Arkyav!!! from the Russia!!!
The first time I saw ragen was 2016 trials I thought she was 12
Was this the first gymnastics meet after the Olympics?
I believe so.
Kaylee Carnahan in the U.S, it was
Ragan Smith talks so fast😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😅
does Riley Mccusker is going to Tokyo??
So...what? Mustafina stops competing and Russia is forgotten?
I don't think they ever compete at the American cup.
Roman Natale They do compete at the American Cup, Mustafina did in 2011.
MissLilRedRooster that was the last time because russia said they weren't sending anymore gymnasts to this meet because they thought Aliya was scored unfairly
that akash modi looked like he had no hands when he was running on vault.
So will Laurie, Simone etc be trying for a second olympics
More than likely yes. It is not uncommon for the team to take a year off.
Rebecca Spellmeyer It better not stay common. It takes them too long to return to gymnastics shape, and win medals!!!
Jessica Matulick yes they just need some time off after all the hard working and training for the olympics
Does anyone think that Gaby will be back?
Kristin Anzelc Hopefully.
i wish....................
i do gymnastics
Sasha Artemev didn't win an Olympic medal on Pommel Horse, he won a World medal and then helped win Olympic Team Bronze using his pommel horse routine. He fell off during the Olympic pommel horse finals.
Also asuka teramoto wasn't an Olympic medalist either. Al kept saying that if you noticed
The entire time, I was thinking Yul looks like some one. Then it hit me. Is that you Showty from Mighty Mouth? Lol congrats congrats. I can wait to see who will actually be on the Olympic team 2020. Too much talent for the girls to tell. Unless something goes wrong, the only one I am sure of is Biles. If Raisman doesn't retire, her too. The rest...I don't know. It's anyone's game. The boys... well it's anyone's game all around for them.
What the heck, that was not king of the hill if after Ragan someone else went on floor
Andrea E it's King of the hill by who's in the rotation, I don't know how they choose within a rotation
Is it just me or does Tisha Volleman look kind of like Mustafina? Look at 1:00:52
The greatest dynasty in all of gymnastics was obviously the Soviet Union Al
#tokyo2020!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
36:12
God, Tim is soooooo annoying!!
Many of us are trying hard to build an audience for artistic gymnastics and the incessant complaining about those who are commentators for the sport is not helping our efforts. If you can't say something positive why not say nothing at all? Or at least make suggestions about what you want changed!
I said what I said firstly because I wanted to and secondly because I can.
Mark Hudson Why?
Perhaps Marks is hoping better commentators will draw more viewers.
He's been annoying since the 90s. He needs to retire. And has he had work done?
Great competition. But little drawback that I want to point out. It's still very early to determine how competitive the women will be since Martha Karyoli has retired as the headcoach for the USA Team and Simon Biles isn't going to be competing in the next olympics and the new code of points. It sounds a little confusing at this point. Overall, it was great turnout for this competition. See you this coming summer.................
Antonio Lopez How do you know Simone Biles is not going to compete in Japan, and other international competitions before August of 2020?
I just know that she's is willing to give one last shot before retiring. The rules of competition are getting harder and harder every 4 years. It will reflect a lot on how they're judged in getting really close to the best score possible. Instead of 5 there will be only 3 who will represent The United States in the next Olympics....
Antonio Lopez Simone will still be trying for the next Olympics. Aly too. It's normal for the olympic team too take time off after.
thought Riley got 5th
hmm and oleg...just mmmm
So sad that China isn't as good as before
as you might have seen by the end of the quad,xie yufen was a B team gymnast for China, possibly a C team gymnast. China is better than they’ve been in a while, don’t worry!
nobody thinks anything in gymnastics looks easy. stop saying that.
Where is the frenchgirls ?
geraldfabiani idk they were at this meet
They're here
Melanie De Jesus Dos Santos is competing in this event btw
Melanie de Jesus dos Santos was here. 😍♥️
i think you should put the british gymnasts on this because its a shame on british people
agreed! thanks for the support
Your welcome!
Mr Hufflepuff there's an international steam that was uploaded last week.
Mr Hufflepuff I love Amy Tinkler ❤❤❤❤❤ actually I am a huge fan of most of Team GB- Claudia Fragapane, Ruby Harrold , The Downie Sisters Ellie & Becky, Charlotte Rupp ❤❤❤❤❤
Mr Hufflepuff yeah but Sam oldham did pretty bad at this competition so they didn't really show him
Everybody but the Americans seemed a little of
Off
*ragan falls* “i can’t believe it!” like everyone makes mistakes with a skill like that u shouldn’t be like omg how did she fall, it’s easy to fall. it was like she could hear everything he was saying...
Ok but the U.S girls were SO overscored
This American Cup for the women is such a mess LOL. I hope Ragan fixed her vault form, so UGLY LMAO. Riley needs more experience obviously.
It's always a mess a year after the olympics lol
Gracie C. Ragan's vault is usually better. She pushed a bit high off the table this time I think.
Riley is just soooo stiff and ungraceful