3 lessons: 1) always blow up jimmy wong's lands and/or mana rocks 2) never trust any thing Josh Lee Kwai says 3) destroy all creatures Craig Blanchette controls
Started listening to the Command Zone podcast about 2 weeks ago, and now this is my favorite MTG content channel. The Podcasts are perfect for my long commute and the Game-Knights episodes are top notch and fun. Shout out to Jimmy and Josh, and all the people behind the Command Zone.
7:15 Game Knights #33 Theros Beyond Death 17:00 Game Knights #32 Holiday Edition Elesh Norn 24:15 Game Knights #30 Throne Of Eldraine 30:20 Game Knights #26 War Of The Spark Pointless Feud 37:10 Game Knights #26 War Of The Spark Kaya's Wrath 42:33 Game Knights #28 M20 Did Jimmy Draw Too Many Cards? 47:19 Game Knights #23 Ravnica Allegiance Wrong Threat To Target 51:42 Game Knights #28 M20 Was Amaz Too Mean? 56:42 Learn From Our Mistakes Final Takeaways
48:35 by sacing Bloodghast Josh could have killed Emrakul with Judith. I think that was much bigger misplay there :D I also think there is a lesson to be learned - when mana-screwed look carefully for each small edge you can get instead of being salty. You can still win if you play well and others fight between themselves.
@@JohnDoe-df7bl With Lavinia on board are 0 mana spells are automatically countered. Edit: That said I would have personally held onto it. If Lavinia died in a boardwipe it would have really helped him, which was probably better then what any card in his hand could have done. But discarding it was actually best for him since Lavinia never left the board.
The standout one for me was the famous Firesong and Sunspeaker episode. Where Josh has Aetherflux Reservoir ONLINE and is storming off on his turn everytime. And the guest drops an Erebos, which stops lifegain. AND JOSH DOESNT IMMEDIATELY MURDER THEIR FACE HOLE. Erebos is the one thing that would prevent the death star from taking over the game while it's out, so the logical option is to murder it's controller, preferably while it's on the stack so you can continue to go off. I guess he didn't do this because it's kinda mean for someone's first guest appearance, but I feel like that was the one that stands out to me consistently.
Sheldon Chambers I remember thinking that same thing in that episode, but Josh had made a table agreement that he would only Aetherflux Reservoir the person who attempted to hit him under 65 life. That was just a good play by her to keep Josh under control while getting around the agreement.
This is a great episode! Thanks for the intense gameplay analysis! You are absolutely right, making correct plays in Commander is REALLY hard and lots of people are waiting on you to make your decision so you can't just sit there forever and make an assessment. Getting better at this gameplay sets a great example!
I really love these types of shows. I recently went back and re-watched some of your old episodes like this. Super helpful for me trying to learn better play.
Approaching 3 weeks straight of podcasts (there is about 20 days worth of podcast content so far). That is for all the hard work and editing and for creating a smooth enjoyable podcast around the best format in magic 😃
i feel like timing is something my group has problems with. knowing when to use removal or understanding when a threat effects them i feel is something new players and some old players might have in games
[Game Knights #23 DJ Utter End + Planar Bridge] I think there is another line of play not discussed that deals with BOTH, even if he still wants to target the hydra. And that is, DJ saying to the table: "So I don't like the hydra hitting me every turn, but the planar bridge is just too big of a threat. Jimmy, can you let me deal with the hydra threat instead of destroying your planar bridge, by not hurting me with whatever you get from Planar Bridge?" EVEN IF DJ was secretly 100% committed to killing the hydra regardless, presenting that deal creates the chance Jimmy doesn't use the bridge against him and that DJ has now basically dealt with BOTH threats
*Can you tell the Devs of MTG Arena to implement a match replay/recap function?* I've noticed that I've made some wrong decisions (mainly due to my lack of threat assessment), I'm familiar with mechanics since Kaladesh, but I've neglected to build too many of my own decks, My knowledge of specific cards, and their "value" is minimal at best. I do think that...analyzing game play will help improve deck building, and in turn potentially improve decision making. But without the ability to record or review matches, whether digital or physical, reduces max potential of improving with MTG (and other strategies). Great video; Perfect timing(for me); Thank you all at The Command Zone for producing content! ♥
What I find very interesting is searching for the moment the game was won. It's not always the actual card ending the game sometimes its a previous spell not being countered from 2 turns ago, a deal being made with another player or even one misplaced removal, etc. It helps your future treat assessment.
Something big that wasn't covered in this was when Josh in the first brawl episode was basically holding the table hostage with rivers rebuke. I get that anyone who had their board bounced was basically guaranteed to lose but what no one seemed to consider was if they didn't do anything to Josh they were still going to lose. In a situation like that I think the best strategy is to get the whole rest of the table to agree to make that person the arch enemy.
Great video as always guys! Just wanted to also let you know you're lighting and sound are always really on point and I really appreciate it! It's so off-putting to have to constantly adjust volume when different people are talking. Thanks for giving us stuff to do while we're quarantined. God bless you guys!
A note about the end discussion involving 3rd/4th place players being "forced" into using their removal spells/other resources to stave off the biggest threats due to seating etc.: Scenarios like this just show, to me, why instant speed interaction is so important. If their interaction can be played on the problem player's turn, they can sand bag their removal until the problem is pointed at them, and then use it only when they have to.
Ooo this is early. 33 seconds since the video came on. Here's my comment without any context. If I could turnback time, I'd have stopped playing standard a while before I did. EDH for life.
I feel the biggest mistake that should have been answered was back in Episode #21, The Guilds of Ravnica episode. After the massive stack play, where Elesh Norn was played, and Adam Savidan played Dictate of Erbos. Now it’s been on my mind, but why didn’t Adam sacrifice the zombie to Yahenni before the Dictate resolves so that Elesh Norn would have lived, killing Josh’s bored when he phased back in. From what us the viewers saw that would have been the play I believe.
Khronogi I would say they are both complex in chess on your first move there are 20 different moves you can make by turn two there is a billion moves you can make and yes a computer can make the right moves to win but there are grandmasters who have beaten computers in best of 7 games
The first time y’all did this was my favorite command zone episode. I have a mono-white Kytheon Gideon tribal deck. Miraculously I’ve never had a problem with slow starts but my table group knowing that didn’t let me keep a creature on board, but I got a boat load of cool enchantments. (they’re only relevant in the endgame) Early game, the Edgar markov deck at the table went to swing at me. I was holding up a swords to plow shares for the mindslicer at the table, but out of spite exiled markov. I ended up winning with Cathars Crusade and deploy to the front but it caused a loud argument at the table at the time. I probably would be regretting it if I didn’t leverage the fact I was mono white
Someone in my playgroup made a huge mistake against my deck once. So I was playing a Locust God draw ramp deck which is very powerful. All of our board states were equal and there was a board wipe confusion, (he actually had two in his hand that had to do with creatures). So he plays the one that destroys all creatures instead of exiles. One line on the locust God is whenever it dies, it may come back to my hand. So taking out the 4 mana from commander cost, I was able to play that and another one of my combo pieces and win the game on that turn. If he was paying attention to my cards and my combo, and played the exile creatures, he would have won on his next turn as the life totals were 10, 7, 18, and 6.
Im pretty sure they will knowing nerd girl lost that game and had a terrible game well not quite terrible but how it turned out not the way she wished for command zone wants everyone to have fun with magic and to enjoy the game being behind happens there is always more games to come :)
@@DarthSnugglePuss Hes frustrating for playing well? You'd hate playing against most people who are decent at the game then, let alone a professional player.
Really agree about the point regarding finishing games quickly. A game of commander is a competition at its core, dragging things out is just insulting your opponents. Play your deck to your best of your abilities and don't feel bad about winning.
12:50 the easy fix to that whole situation to put aside speculation is to just sacrifice your Xenagos to the Altar of Dementia once he targeted it with mirage mirror...even if you weren't sure what he was going to do with it, it was obviously his only out. That removes everything about who should I have killed or what not. Sacrifice Xenagos there and he did not have enough to mill you out.
I think it's a great thing you make genuine mistakes. Why? Because A; it makes the video's feel genuine, unlike most MTG content which is scripted alot. B; Makes me feel better about myself and my playgroup, that we're not the only ones making mistakes sometimes.
The whole "pointless fued" topic is actually a bit more valid than people realize. When you establish yourself as a "dont mess with my stuff" sort of player, you cue people in on the fact that you are reactionary. That when you say you have something, and will do something, that you'll do the thing. Nothing more satisfying than a Spike player complaining because they removed your thing, and you removed some thing of theirs back. "They have (thing) why wouldn't you use that on (thing)?!" A. don't touch my stuff......B. You LITERALLY just removed some thing of mine, you had the option to remove (thing) yourself, don't just bitch that your "master plan" of "ha HA I'm gonna remove HIS thing and then he HAS to remove the OTHER player's thing since IT is the THREAT!!" didn't work. C. DON'T TOUCH MY STUFF
plz make more game knights episodes and more commander gameplay, it is one of my most loved things on youtube and you guys do it best! when i discovered game knights i watched all episodes in 3 days! plz make more :)
The episode with Nerdgirl I don't think Amaz was too mean, he got the win. But I think it looked way worse because she helped out a few times not lose, and you guys had a bit of a vendetta against each other. There was definitely a line in that game where Jimmy should have Mindslaved Amaz, smashed his stuff into Josh, after Jimmy had already set Josh back a bit with the first Mindslaver usage. OR used Josh's stuff against Amaz instead of saccing it. I think that's the bigger misplay in that episode rather than Amaz being mean, or Jimmy Necropotence for 25. Without going back and watching that (rough) game, but I remember thinking "why do this instead of x" regarding the mindslaver.
52:48 I don't mind what Amaz did, he was just using his commander to his full potential. sure, maybe it was mean, but I don't mind stuff like that. The only playstyle I mind is someone playing stacks that takes 50 turns to win, that is my only gripe. that is where I draw the line. Infect is ok, destroying everything is ok, so long as you win quickly. but destroying everything or locking the game down and taking 20 turns from then on to win is not ok in my book. I will sorcery speed scoop if you do that. I have made massive mistakes that cost me the game. at one time, I was playing Locust god and I just need 1 more creature to win and I forgot locust god as an ability on him that lets me draw a card and get a locust. I saw that afterwards and was like "oh no!". I so rarely use that ability on him that I forgot about it. if I had that one creature I would have won the game. another time, I play out a Fiendish duo (gives everything that's not hitting me double strike) and right after, someone plays a corrupted consience on it, suddenly they have a 5/5 doublestriker with infect and I have nothing, suffice to say I died the next turn. I wouldn't say that was a misplay, it was a politics card, everyone did double damage so long as they weren't hitting me, but I ended up handing the other player the win.
Completely agree. Beating a dead horse is not something to do to a friend. If they want to play it out because they think they can win, that's their decision. But "making" them sit there while you are the only one playing is bad social manners. Borderline bullying.
I had a situation last night where there was a Yarok player with Leyline of Anticipation and Seedborn muse on the table. I asked the person playing Feather if he could kill either permanent. He then swung 11 damage at me playing Varina, Lich Queen. Yarok player won 2 turns later with 62 4/5 plants from Avenger of Zendikar.
Personal Anecdote I was playing Edgar Markov against a Mono Blue deck and an atraxa super friends. Atraxa had 4 planeswalkers, all close to ult. I had no board to speak of, but a Merciless Eviction top deck. The blue player had a single planeswalker and a load of artifact ramp, and open mana. I knew he had a counterspell. So I decided to be open, and asked if he'd let me resolve merciless eviction to stop atraxa from ulting next turn. He said no. I was baffled. I laid out my case that I was going to cast this card regardless, so he had two options. Either he counters it, we both go down a card, saves his Teferi (commander) and let's atraxa do their thing, or he allows it, keeps his counterspell for later, suffers virtually no damage as he can recast teferi that turn, and neuters atraxa. He still said no. I was absolutely sure he was just being obstinate and making a bad play. Still not quite believing he was serious, I cast eviction, and he counters it. "Alright, then we both lose." Next turn atraxa drops doubling season and another walker, ults everything and we lose. I confronted him after, and he revealed that he was holding isochron scepter and summary dismissal. But he didnt have the mana for the dismissal after countering my eviction. But he had to counter the eviction to have enough mana to combo off next turn with teferi, his artifacts, a tutor and dramatic scepter. So he wasn't being an idiot. I had just put him into a position from which he couldn't win.
No no no. It's not about what Amaz did. It is about the *WHOLE* game. During the whole game she was barely able to to play anything. The fact of why it felt mean is not because of what Amaz did to her, it is because of what he did to her CONSIDERING the rest of the game. Basically she was unable to play or make her deck shine. If you read the comments you will realize how people kept saying that it would've been better to record another game instead.
@@samyravs7792 True, which is something some people don't get but there is the problem. This is content and content for a lot of people wants to be entertaining but when stuff like this happens the content seems unfair which can make some people upset and therefore Amaz appeared as 'mean'.
An episode I wish you guys discussed was the episode with Jacob and Evelynn, and the massive "potential " mistakes in it. Would have been a good discussion on the politics ( was Evelynn right to take those deals with Jacob/was he right to offer them? ), along with "was it a missplay to not remove some of her ramp ". Personally I feel Evelynn was in the right to take the deals, but Jacob was missplaying by offering most of them.
YOU SHOULD DO A GAME WITH JOSH PLAYING VIAL SMASHER AND THRASIOS, JIMMY PLAYING BRAIDS, ASHLEN PLAYING KOSELEK, AND CRAIG PLAYING SAMUT! That would be a game!
There's never a way to be certain what would have happened charts the beauty of magic....no one can predict card draw/human decision ....you can predict what MAY happen but there can always be a homebrew deck that has cards you can't expect or know what the could draw.
I would like to point out sth in the elesh norn - mangara situation: jimmy did not leave W up. Remember, he still controlled Samut, which would allow him to use mangara TWICE with elesh norn on the stack, so he could get rid of legendary land for example, or anything else he'd like.
I’m sure you guys have tried, but if you could get LSV and Marshall on the show, since they do LR you should do the format you did with Prof and Wedge for Iconic Masters, but using jump start or maybe mystery boosters
Regarding the last topic "sitting position", do you think the player's position should be randomize before each edh game? Maybe it's a bit unnatural. When I want to play a game I just sit in the next chair or the only available chair.
I am loving how you are modifying songs for magic theme. i have done it with songs for dnd/wow/magic since grade 7 and have even posted a few magicified songs in comments on your older videos.
I might be wrong but I think the whole Mammoth situation is different. Chittering Witch is on the board and I believe the three yellow tokens represent rats. If Jimmy blocks with a 1/1, the Mammoth has 5 toughness remaining. Prior to playing a creature, or while holding priority, Reid could throw a rat at the Formation to shrink it for the fight. If this is true, isn’t the best line to make three tokens and only have them block the Mammoth? If Jimmy makes three tokens and block all against the Mammoth, Reid will just throw the three rat activations at the Formation (or depending on what he wants out of the turn, accepts the trade). If he throws three tokens only at the Mammoth, that means Reid would have to sink two activations into the Formation before another creature triggers the fight. In this latter scenario, there is the possibility that he won’t want to sink that many resources into the Formation and leave it for another turn.
Greetings from Germany. You made me a great fan of your channel and EDH, especially Josh, cause he often plays the commander of my choice from new released products. Keep going, you are creating superb content, I´m looking forward to the next GK episode (already watched every released episode until now for at least 4 times).
People are always either really scared, or completely ignore my anje falkenrath deck, and I think it comes down to whether they find my deck being thinned scary.
Mistakes ive learned from. 1. Throwing cards results in early scoops 2. Repeatedly take everyones turn with mindslaver makes people mad 3. Zozu land destruction is not an ok deck
I'm really digging the first two examples here. I think it highlights a political concept that most Commander players coming from 1v1 play suffer from. DO NOT take out a player unless they aren't useful to you anymore. Weight up how dangerous they are to you, and how dangerous they are to your opponents. You really only want to be messing with them if there is something they have going that makes them a threat to you, but not the rest of the table. There are ALWAYS deals available if you have the ability to kill someone, following through on that only removes that political potential AND commits your own resources. It's a last ditch effort that you don't want to be playing for unless that line ends in you winning the game.
I think a cool Game Knights game would be taking all of the people that kind of had a bad game or did not do much during the game and bringing them back as a sort of redemption game.
so... when I started playing commander, I remember going out of my way to putrefy a voltaic key when there were other more logical targets for it. Never gonna get over that...
Sure would be! I think Tolarian has a video on it... I've seen it in some video I'm sure. I have some tips for you in the mean time that I've learned the hard way. If you have green in your deck, never keep a hand that doesn't have at least one green mana cuz chances are most of your ramp is green. (This tripped me up when playing triple coloured at first) You want to keep a hand you can play. The mana you keep should match the mana costs in your hand. Even if that means keeping two white lands in an esper deck. Make sure you can play at least two cards. Or keep a hand that has at least one ramp spell and MAKE SURE you already have the mana to play it. Never trust that you will draw into the thing you need to make your hand work. You don't want to sit out four turns on that hope. If it doesn't work out after that's chance but keeping a hand that doesn't work is a choice.
During the Theros Beyond Death episode if Jimmy blew up Crystal Scepter the entire game changes. The two MVP cards of that episode were the Scepter and Uro.
As for the jimmy necropotence situation. I’m fairly certain necropotence makes you discard into exile therefore negating the potential benefit to recur with his graveyard deck or gain any value from that. 25 was probably too much
I used Necropotence in response to Josh stealing it, which is why I discarded those cards into my graveyard to be able to exile them with my commander and cast Mindslaver over and over again- jimmy
The Command Zone. Right! In that case definitely good idea. I totally whiffed only the you not having necropotence anymore 😅 thanks for clarifying. I just started playing a year ago and I love your channel!!
A mistake my play group makes a lot is not assessing threats going in to the game. There is one guy in my play group that likes to build things on the 9-10 power level, and the rest of us play like 6-8 power level decks. Most of the time when we get into the game with this player I tend to be the only one dealing with his threats, and this leads to him winning 90% of the games we play unless I am playing my Grand Arbitor IV deck (which everyone hates so I play that as a last resort). So basically, my play group needs to focus him a little more.
Nah, I'll disagree. Watch that episode again from at least 45 to the end. Just watch her do absolutely nothing with her deck. It's a tokens deck. You can see the decklist online. It's a fairly weak deck. It doesn't really have a ton of things to do where it could explode. She doesn't have things that could deal with his board state. I mean, I guess there are some board wipes there, Hour of Reckoning is a 7mana 4WWW board wipe, Austere Command doesn't kill everything, and it's 4WW. It looks like it'd be a fun deck in certain situations with a certain playground, but not with this group. He easily could have just attacked her and won without being a giant ham.
@@andrewlaverghetta715 it was fine, he just crushed her at the end. Nothing wrong with that. Ultimately she was mana screwed for most of the game, can happen to any deck even very high powered ones.
Please do another? threat assessment episode. Both assessing which cards are threats and which players might be threats, but that would be a lot harder to judge.
In my opinion, a mistake is where you accidentally break the rules. Like an easy one that doesn't really have a of of consequences, is forgetting to untap your permanents before you draw, its a mistake, but it doesn't really matter in the end. All the arguments that are being made here isn't that these moves were 'mistakes', but that there were more optimal moves that could have been done that could have put the person in a better position. In a format like commander, I don't think you should always be making the most optimal moves. if an opponent is behind on lands and I draw a terrastodon, if I destroy 3 of their lands, they are basically out of the game, which would be an optimal move because I removed an opponent. But that isn't very fun to play against, and I am ruining that persons game. (I'm just using an example) which isn't very fun to play against.
Well i mean going after the guy who has three lands isnt even the optimal play with a terrastodon (obviously least threatening) Surely there would be better permanents to destroy. And by that is what you call accurate threat assessment
@@sulaimanhyatt-butt1453 I'm glad you completely ignored my point and went after a quick example I gave, rather than the actual reason I posted the comment!
You kinda do make the soft point that "this is the optimal play because it removes an opponent" as a means to support the conclusion that you "sometimes dont make the optimal play for the sake of fun" but it buys into this philosophy that "knocking someone out is ALWAYS the optimal play to win" which is PATENTLY false in multiplayer. I get the ultimate conclusion, sometimes you need to make the altruistic play for the sake of the game, but then the example was "meh..."
I was playing a game and kept a one-lander in a Syr Konrad. My goal was just to be telling my opponents what to do. I survived for a stupid long time. A Meren player was trying to combo off and my goal was to just cast my commander and necropotence. I ended winning that game by discarding 30+ creatures with necro in play.
@@traycarrot Pretty much. One misplay begetting another. When you have a situation where one person is leagues ahead of the other 3, you need to be able to switch gears and go "OK, even looking at this selfishly, forming some alliance to make sure he doesnt win is MY best chance to win." And honestly...the act of not hurting your new allies, read as "don't just swing your giant beatsticks", ends up putting you in an advantage. May not have been able to swing at Jimmy because of the deal, but that doesn't mean I HAVE to swing at my other 2 opponents and do some of your work to kill them. I've won games because I've held damage and suddenly the archenemy didn't have enough damage to actually kill everyone.
My dad and I had a huge argument after a game because we were facing a kamal deck that was gonna trample us to death, and his "answer" to it was Avacyn, and I immediately conceded the game and we had a fight because his threat assessment couldn't even be described as bad, it's nonexistent. So we just don't play together anymore.
Worst misplay that happened. Well I consider it a misplay. One of my friends was playing korlash. He had alot of lands and had an equipment that gave it a boost equal to the number of swamps he had. It was a big threat. I got to cast citadel siege in order to tap down the korlash but my other friend counters it for no reason. Then my friend playing korlash casts a sheoldred and my other friend just lets it resolve. Obviously we ended up losing that game
If you want a guy who is more on the humorous side, ask Serge from LRR to join for a game. Hes really fun to play with from everything ive seen. Just, remind him kitchen finx, finks? Idk, just remind him it cannot go in a deck that isnt white green, he tends to do that a lot in commender. Ben Ulmer(i think thats his last name) made it a joke in their christmas commander game using commanders that are red green
The Necropotence was stolen by Josh when this happened, so by the time I went to my cleanup step, the rule that my discarded cards would be exiled is no longer in play on my side of the battlefield - jimmy
Is it a mistake not playing to win? Since whenever I play commander with my friends, there is nothing on the line. I don’t play cards that shut people out of the game, counter spells, or MLD cards so people can play their decks and I just enjoy playing the game with them. Is it better to just play jack and durdle as much as I want since I don’t care about winning, or should I make them earn their wins?
So during commander league, a guy I was playing started trash talking telling me he was gonna take my muldrotha once it hit the graveyard (I had a kaya ghostfirm on it). Well he shouldn’t of done that because I had been holding a ground seal because I didn’t want to ruin what his deck was able to do, which was target stuff in graveyards. Anyways, shut his deck down. Then we got paired up again and feud carries over. he promised to not take my muldrotha if I didn’t ground seal. So instead, I ashiok dream rendered him and just kept exiling his stuff so nothing ever hit the graveyard. Then kept playing ashiok because of muldrotha.
For everyone asking about where to get Craig's ring:
Once you kill enough players with infect, the Phyrexian's send you one in a gift box.
@@kingdare4585 Well, you don't have any black mana, so I think you just need to expend two lives.
nah they gonna send it in a secret lair
@@frigidblaze1 the secret lair is only partially furnished though, you have to bring a lot of your own accoutrements
@@kingdare4585 You don't seem to understand how the most blessed Compleation works.... But to answer your question, you don't.
3 lessons:
1) always blow up jimmy wong's lands and/or mana rocks
2) never trust any thing Josh Lee Kwai says
3) destroy all creatures Craig Blanchette controls
Also always asume Josh is holding a response or will use Vedalken Orrery
so basically play worldfire got it
Joseph Lord worldfire is banned in EDH.
4) Win and laugh
And beware of DJ's ability to ensure the strongest player the win.
Jimmy, "math is for blockers" famous last words.
Why didn’t the show this game. It would have bine sooooo funny
@@wyatthammond4670 it's still too soon for Jimmy
MATH IS FOR BLOCKERS LMFAO
Title: "Learn from Our Mistakes."
Jimmy: mAtH iS fOr BlOcKeRs
Bearforce One: Am I a joke to you?
Who are we to deny the bears their meal.
Lol.
That monent when you own some one a favor
Marco DiTommaso yes. Bear Force One was a joke to him
I love that Craig is more active in the podcast! Keep him coming!
Started listening to the Command Zone podcast about 2 weeks ago, and now this is my favorite MTG content channel. The Podcasts are perfect for my long commute and the Game-Knights episodes are top notch and fun. Shout out to Jimmy and Josh, and all the people behind the Command Zone.
I've really enjoyed the Edhrec podcast for an alternative podcast! This is for sure an awesome podcast and one that totally got me into Edh as well!
7:15 Game Knights #33 Theros Beyond Death
17:00 Game Knights #32 Holiday Edition Elesh Norn
24:15 Game Knights #30 Throne Of Eldraine
30:20 Game Knights #26 War Of The Spark Pointless Feud
37:10 Game Knights #26 War Of The Spark Kaya's Wrath
42:33 Game Knights #28 M20 Did Jimmy Draw Too Many Cards?
47:19 Game Knights #23 Ravnica Allegiance Wrong Threat To Target
51:42 Game Knights #28 M20 Was Amaz Too Mean?
56:42 Learn From Our Mistakes Final Takeaways
Thank you - can you do not take all the color pie please?
"You must learn from the mistakes of others. You can't possibly live long enough to make them all yourself." Sam Levenson
I thought the main lesson was always "If Josh plays UG, he's the Archenemy."
Josh is always the Archenemy as he's always aiming to just lock everyone out of the game and play dirty with "politics".
any Simic player is the enemy
Rule 1 in threat assesment: always play like Craig has blightsteel colossus and Some haste
48:35 by sacing Bloodghast Josh could have killed Emrakul with Judith. I think that was much bigger misplay there :D
I also think there is a lesson to be learned - when mana-screwed look carefully for each small edge you can get instead of being salty. You can still win if you play well and others fight between themselves.
Especially that salty thing matters a lot, if you don't get salty you play a lot better.
Also Josh in that episode discarded a mana crypt. LIKE WHAT!
@@JohnDoe-df7bl With Lavinia on board are 0 mana spells are automatically countered.
Edit: That said I would have personally held onto it. If Lavinia died in a boardwipe it would have really helped him, which was probably better then what any card in his hand could have done. But discarding it was actually best for him since Lavinia never left the board.
The standout one for me was the famous Firesong and Sunspeaker episode. Where Josh has Aetherflux Reservoir ONLINE and is storming off on his turn everytime. And the guest drops an Erebos, which stops lifegain. AND JOSH DOESNT IMMEDIATELY MURDER THEIR FACE HOLE. Erebos is the one thing that would prevent the death star from taking over the game while it's out, so the logical option is to murder it's controller, preferably while it's on the stack so you can continue to go off.
I guess he didn't do this because it's kinda mean for someone's first guest appearance, but I feel like that was the one that stands out to me consistently.
Sheldon Chambers I remember thinking that same thing in that episode, but Josh had made a table agreement that he would only Aetherflux Reservoir the person who attempted to hit him under 65 life. That was just a good play by her to keep Josh under control while getting around the agreement.
I guess "I concede, let's play again" is something that should happen more in Game Knights.
Maybe extra turns, but Game Knights is more aimed at your one big play through
Craig is such a legend. Please have him on to play again🔥🔥
When amaz started blowing up her lands I immediately felt like she was going to set him on fire.
This is a great episode! Thanks for the intense gameplay analysis!
You are absolutely right, making correct plays in Commander is REALLY hard and lots of people are waiting on you to make your decision so you can't just sit there forever and make an assessment. Getting better at this gameplay sets a great example!
37:04 I'm so glad we finally have a decklist for the legendary mill deck
@Joseph Marler
did they make a video on it and if so what's the name of the video . i would love to see it
I really love these types of shows. I recently went back and re-watched some of your old episodes like this. Super helpful for me trying to learn better play.
Thanks for all the tips and how to be a better player. I feel like I'm a better player because of all the help you guys provide.
I LOVE the in-depth strategy over Game Knights! This should be a lot more content of your podcasts after new GK eps!
Approaching 3 weeks straight of podcasts (there is about 20 days worth of podcast content so far). That is for all the hard work and editing and for creating a smooth enjoyable podcast around the best format in magic 😃
i feel like timing is something my group has problems with. knowing when to use removal or understanding when a threat effects them i feel is something new players and some old players might have in games
[Game Knights #23 DJ Utter End + Planar Bridge] I think there is another line of play not discussed that deals with BOTH, even if he still wants to target the hydra. And that is, DJ saying to the table:
"So I don't like the hydra hitting me every turn, but the planar bridge is just too big of a threat. Jimmy, can you let me deal with the hydra threat instead of destroying your planar bridge, by not hurting me with whatever you get from Planar Bridge?"
EVEN IF DJ was secretly 100% committed to killing the hydra regardless, presenting that deal creates the chance Jimmy doesn't use the bridge against him and that DJ has now basically dealt with BOTH threats
*Can you tell the Devs of MTG Arena to implement a match replay/recap function?*
I've noticed that I've made some wrong decisions (mainly due to my lack of threat assessment),
I'm familiar with mechanics since Kaladesh, but I've neglected to build too many of my own decks,
My knowledge of specific cards, and their "value" is minimal at best.
I do think that...analyzing game play will help improve deck building, and in turn potentially improve decision making.
But without the ability to record or review matches, whether digital or physical, reduces max potential of improving with MTG (and other strategies).
Great video; Perfect timing(for me);
Thank you all at The Command Zone for producing content! ♥
What I find very interesting is searching for the moment the game was won. It's not always the actual card ending the game sometimes its a previous spell not being countered from 2 turns ago, a deal being made with another player or even one misplaced removal, etc. It helps your future treat assessment.
Cool concept!!
Something big that wasn't covered in this was when Josh in the first brawl episode was basically holding the table hostage with rivers rebuke. I get that anyone who had their board bounced was basically guaranteed to lose but what no one seemed to consider was if they didn't do anything to Josh they were still going to lose. In a situation like that I think the best strategy is to get the whole rest of the table to agree to make that person the arch enemy.
Great video as always guys! Just wanted to also let you know you're lighting and sound are always really on point and I really appreciate it! It's so off-putting to have to constantly adjust volume when different people are talking. Thanks for giving us stuff to do while we're quarantined. God bless you guys!
A note about the end discussion involving 3rd/4th place players being "forced" into using their removal spells/other resources to stave off the biggest threats due to seating etc.: Scenarios like this just show, to me, why instant speed interaction is so important. If their interaction can be played on the problem player's turn, they can sand bag their removal until the problem is pointed at them, and then use it only when they have to.
Ooo this is early. 33 seconds since the video came on. Here's my comment without any context.
If I could turnback time, I'd have stopped playing standard a while before I did. EDH for life.
I feel the biggest mistake that should have been answered was back in Episode #21, The Guilds of Ravnica episode. After the massive stack play, where Elesh Norn was played, and Adam Savidan played Dictate of Erbos. Now it’s been on my mind, but why didn’t Adam sacrifice the zombie to Yahenni before the Dictate resolves so that Elesh Norn would have lived, killing Josh’s bored when he phased back in. From what us the viewers saw that would have been the play I believe.
I love this episode! Would love to see more like this in the future.
Ditto! I love getting gameplay retrospective
Critical analyzing your games is what makes every player better even outside of magic as this is exactly how chess players get better at chess
I mean, magic is just as complex and intuitive as chess, maybe even more.
Much more. A computer can make the perfect chess play. It's impossible with magic.
Khronogi I would say they are both complex in chess on your first move there are 20 different moves you can make by turn two there is a billion moves you can make and yes a computer can make the right moves to win but there are grandmasters who have beaten computers in best of 7 games
The first time y’all did this was my favorite command zone episode. I have a mono-white Kytheon Gideon tribal deck. Miraculously I’ve never had a problem with slow starts but my table group knowing that didn’t let me keep a creature on board, but I got a boat load of cool enchantments. (they’re only relevant in the endgame) Early game, the Edgar markov deck at the table went to swing at me. I was holding up a swords to plow shares for the mindslicer at the table, but out of spite exiled markov. I ended up winning with Cathars Crusade and deploy to the front but it caused a loud argument at the table at the time. I probably would be regretting it if I didn’t leverage the fact I was mono white
great idea for a podcast episode. really enjoyed it. recently the podcast episodes have been really divers and informative
I love these types of episodes, it is really useful to think about these typical game situations.
Someone in my playgroup made a huge mistake against my deck once. So I was playing a Locust God draw ramp deck which is very powerful. All of our board states were equal and there was a board wipe confusion, (he actually had two in his hand that had to do with creatures). So he plays the one that destroys all creatures instead of exiles. One line on the locust God is whenever it dies, it may come back to my hand. So taking out the 4 mana from commander cost, I was able to play that and another one of my combo pieces and win the game on that turn. If he was paying attention to my cards and my combo, and played the exile creatures, he would have won on his next turn as the life totals were 10, 7, 18, and 6.
Please have MTG nerd girl back on so she can have a chance at an actual game.
Jason Miller for real 😳
Im pretty sure they will knowing nerd girl lost that game and had a terrible game well not quite terrible but how it turned out not the way she wished for command zone wants everyone to have fun with magic and to enjoy the game being behind happens there is always more games to come :)
And never have Amaz back. The dude was frustrating to watch.
@@DarthSnugglePuss Hes frustrating for playing well? You'd hate playing against most people who are decent at the game then, let alone a professional player.
@@spudster8887 I’m sorry you’ve taken an issue with my opinion.
Really agree about the point regarding finishing games quickly. A game of commander is a competition at its core, dragging things out is just insulting your opponents. Play your deck to your best of your abilities and don't feel bad about winning.
12:50 the easy fix to that whole situation to put aside speculation is to just sacrifice your Xenagos to the Altar of Dementia once he targeted it with mirage mirror...even if you weren't sure what he was going to do with it, it was obviously his only out. That removes everything about who should I have killed or what not. Sacrifice Xenagos there and he did not have enough to mill you out.
I think it's a great thing you make genuine mistakes. Why? Because A; it makes the video's feel genuine, unlike most MTG content which is scripted alot. B; Makes me feel better about myself and my playgroup, that we're not the only ones making mistakes sometimes.
The whole "pointless fued" topic is actually a bit more valid than people realize. When you establish yourself as a "dont mess with my stuff" sort of player, you cue people in on the fact that you are reactionary. That when you say you have something, and will do something, that you'll do the thing. Nothing more satisfying than a Spike player complaining because they removed your thing, and you removed some thing of theirs back. "They have (thing) why wouldn't you use that on (thing)?!" A. don't touch my stuff......B. You LITERALLY just removed some thing of mine, you had the option to remove (thing) yourself, don't just bitch that your "master plan" of "ha HA I'm gonna remove HIS thing and then he HAS to remove the OTHER player's thing since IT is the THREAT!!" didn't work.
C. DON'T TOUCH MY STUFF
I would absolutely love to have more episodes like this.
Where do I get Craig's Phyrexia ring
From Craig's house while he is asleep.duh
@@CaptBackwards didn't think about that. Thank you
exactly its awesome, any links to the store?
ismail köylücü maybe try Shapeways or other 3D print services? It seems like it’s printed
Quite possibly found on etsy
plz make more game knights episodes and more commander gameplay, it is one of my most loved things on youtube and you guys do it best! when i discovered game knights i watched all episodes in 3 days! plz make more :)
The episode with Nerdgirl I don't think Amaz was too mean, he got the win. But I think it looked way worse because she helped out a few times not lose, and you guys had a bit of a vendetta against each other. There was definitely a line in that game where Jimmy should have Mindslaved Amaz, smashed his stuff into Josh, after Jimmy had already set Josh back a bit with the first Mindslaver usage. OR used Josh's stuff against Amaz instead of saccing it. I think that's the bigger misplay in that episode rather than Amaz being mean, or Jimmy Necropotence for 25. Without going back and watching that (rough) game, but I remember thinking "why do this instead of x" regarding the mindslaver.
52:48 I don't mind what Amaz did, he was just using his commander to his full potential. sure, maybe it was mean, but I don't mind stuff like that. The only playstyle I mind is someone playing stacks that takes 50 turns to win, that is my only gripe. that is where I draw the line. Infect is ok, destroying everything is ok, so long as you win quickly. but destroying everything or locking the game down and taking 20 turns from then on to win is not ok in my book. I will sorcery speed scoop if you do that.
I have made massive mistakes that cost me the game. at one time, I was playing Locust god and I just need 1 more creature to win and I forgot locust god as an ability on him that lets me draw a card and get a locust. I saw that afterwards and was like "oh no!". I so rarely use that ability on him that I forgot about it. if I had that one creature I would have won the game. another time, I play out a Fiendish duo (gives everything that's not hitting me double strike) and right after, someone plays a corrupted consience on it, suddenly they have a 5/5 doublestriker with infect and I have nothing, suffice to say I died the next turn. I wouldn't say that was a misplay, it was a politics card, everyone did double damage so long as they weren't hitting me, but I ended up handing the other player the win.
Completely agree. Beating a dead horse is not something to do to a friend. If they want to play it out because they think they can win, that's their decision. But "making" them sit there while you are the only one playing is bad social manners. Borderline bullying.
I had a situation last night where there was a Yarok player with Leyline of Anticipation and Seedborn muse on the table. I asked the person playing Feather if he could kill either permanent. He then swung 11 damage at me playing Varina, Lich Queen. Yarok player won 2 turns later with 62 4/5 plants from Avenger of Zendikar.
This was a wonderful video! Not many people admit to their mistakes.
Personal Anecdote
I was playing Edgar Markov against a Mono Blue deck and an atraxa super friends. Atraxa had 4 planeswalkers, all close to ult. I had no board to speak of, but a Merciless Eviction top deck. The blue player had a single planeswalker and a load of artifact ramp, and open mana. I knew he had a counterspell. So I decided to be open, and asked if he'd let me resolve merciless eviction to stop atraxa from ulting next turn. He said no. I was baffled. I laid out my case that I was going to cast this card regardless, so he had two options. Either he counters it, we both go down a card, saves his Teferi (commander) and let's atraxa do their thing, or he allows it, keeps his counterspell for later, suffers virtually no damage as he can recast teferi that turn, and neuters atraxa. He still said no. I was absolutely sure he was just being obstinate and making a bad play. Still not quite believing he was serious, I cast eviction, and he counters it. "Alright, then we both lose." Next turn atraxa drops doubling season and another walker, ults everything and we lose. I confronted him after, and he revealed that he was holding isochron scepter and summary dismissal. But he didnt have the mana for the dismissal after countering my eviction. But he had to counter the eviction to have enough mana to combo off next turn with teferi, his artifacts, a tutor and dramatic scepter. So he wasn't being an idiot. I had just put him into a position from which he couldn't win.
No no no. It's not about what Amaz did. It is about the *WHOLE* game. During the whole game she was barely able to to play anything. The fact of why it felt mean is not because of what Amaz did to her, it is because of what he did to her CONSIDERING the rest of the game. Basically she was unable to play or make her deck shine. If you read the comments you will realize how people kept saying that it would've been better to record another game instead.
They can only record one game. They only have time for one
@@samyravs7792 True, which is something some people don't get but there is the problem. This is content and content for a lot of people wants to be entertaining but when stuff like this happens the content seems unfair which can make some people upset and therefore Amaz appeared as 'mean'.
An episode I wish you guys discussed was the episode with Jacob and Evelynn, and the massive "potential " mistakes in it. Would have been a good discussion on the politics ( was Evelynn right to take those deals with Jacob/was he right to offer them? ), along with "was it a missplay to not remove some of her ramp ".
Personally I feel Evelynn was in the right to take the deals, but Jacob was missplaying by offering most of them.
You "Flowers for Algernon'd" your own songs
YOU SHOULD DO A GAME WITH JOSH PLAYING VIAL SMASHER AND THRASIOS, JIMMY PLAYING BRAIDS, ASHLEN PLAYING KOSELEK, AND CRAIG PLAYING SAMUT! That would be a game!
There's never a way to be certain what would have happened charts the beauty of magic....no one can predict card draw/human decision ....you can predict what MAY happen but there can always be a homebrew deck that has cards you can't expect or know what the could draw.
I feel I lose games because I use my removal against people who targeted my stuff earlier instead of thinking about how I can win
I would like to point out sth in the elesh norn - mangara situation: jimmy did not leave W up. Remember, he still controlled Samut, which would allow him to use mangara TWICE with elesh norn on the stack, so he could get rid of legendary land for example, or anything else he'd like.
Command zone, you inspire me to become a better mtg player. Thank you.
I’m sure you guys have tried, but if you could get LSV and Marshall on the show, since they do LR you should do the format you did with Prof and Wedge for Iconic Masters, but using jump start or maybe mystery boosters
Regarding the last topic "sitting position", do you think the player's position should be randomize before each edh game? Maybe it's a bit unnatural. When I want to play a game I just sit in the next chair or the only available chair.
I am loving how you are modifying songs for magic theme. i have done it with songs for dnd/wow/magic since grade 7 and have even posted a few magicified songs in comments on your older videos.
Yet another great episode! I hope to get a chance to play some games with you guys at MagicFest Reno this weekend!!!
I might be wrong but I think the whole Mammoth situation is different. Chittering Witch is on the board and I believe the three yellow tokens represent rats. If Jimmy blocks with a 1/1, the Mammoth has 5 toughness remaining. Prior to playing a creature, or while holding priority, Reid could throw a rat at the Formation to shrink it for the fight.
If this is true, isn’t the best line to make three tokens and only have them block the Mammoth? If Jimmy makes three tokens and block all against the Mammoth, Reid will just throw the three rat activations at the Formation (or depending on what he wants out of the turn, accepts the trade). If he throws three tokens only at the Mammoth, that means Reid would have to sink two activations into the Formation before another creature triggers the fight. In this latter scenario, there is the possibility that he won’t want to sink that many resources into the Formation and leave it for another turn.
You know what you're doing here, right? You're just giving everyone a reason to binge watch every episode of Game Knights.
Now, THAT's proper threat assessment.
Greetings from Germany. You made me a great fan of your channel and EDH, especially Josh, cause he often plays the commander of my choice from new released products. Keep going, you are creating superb content, I´m looking forward to the next GK episode (already watched every released episode until now for at least 4 times).
People are always either really scared, or completely ignore my anje falkenrath deck, and I think it comes down to whether they find my deck being thinned scary.
The holiday episode is a perfect example of one player (who is in essentially last place) deciding the winner of the game
Mistakes ive learned from.
1. Throwing cards results in early scoops
2. Repeatedly take everyones turn with mindslaver makes people mad
3. Zozu land destruction is not an ok deck
I'm really digging the first two examples here. I think it highlights a political concept that most Commander players coming from 1v1 play suffer from.
DO NOT take out a player unless they aren't useful to you anymore.
Weight up how dangerous they are to you, and how dangerous they are to your opponents.
You really only want to be messing with them if there is something they have going that makes them a threat to you, but not the rest of the table.
There are ALWAYS deals available if you have the ability to kill someone, following through on that only removes that political potential AND commits your own resources. It's a last ditch effort that you don't want to be playing for unless that line ends in you winning the game.
I don't think I'd mind another GK with Amaz in it. I think it would be especially entertaining to have Duke Reid join that game. :)
I think a cool Game Knights game would be taking all of the people that kind of had a bad game or did not do much during the game and bringing them back as a sort of redemption game.
Command Zone: "Learn from our mistakes!"
Also Command Zone: "But are they though?..."
And also- all our friends made mistakes, but we didn't
so... when I started playing commander, I remember going out of my way to putrefy a voltaic key when there were other more logical targets for it.
Never gonna get over that...
Guys one thing I think we never see is the hands you keep in game nights. Thinking “knowing when to mulligan” would be a decent topic
Sure would be! I think Tolarian has a video on it... I've seen it in some video I'm sure. I have some tips for you in the mean time that I've learned the hard way.
If you have green in your deck, never keep a hand that doesn't have at least one green mana cuz chances are most of your ramp is green. (This tripped me up when playing triple coloured at first)
You want to keep a hand you can play. The mana you keep should match the mana costs in your hand. Even if that means keeping two white lands in an esper deck.
Make sure you can play at least two cards. Or keep a hand that has at least one ramp spell and MAKE SURE you already have the mana to play it.
Never trust that you will draw into the thing you need to make your hand work. You don't want to sit out four turns on that hope. If it doesn't work out after that's chance but keeping a hand that doesn't work is a choice.
During the Theros Beyond Death episode if Jimmy blew up Crystal Scepter the entire game changes. The two MVP cards of that episode were the Scepter and Uro.
As for the jimmy necropotence situation. I’m fairly certain necropotence makes you discard into exile therefore negating the potential benefit to recur with his graveyard deck or gain any value from that. 25 was probably too much
He didn't have necropotence at thst time so would have discarded into GY
I used Necropotence in response to Josh stealing it, which is why I discarded those cards into my graveyard to be able to exile them with my commander and cast Mindslaver over and over again- jimmy
The Command Zone. Right! In that case definitely good idea. I totally whiffed only the you not having necropotence anymore 😅 thanks for clarifying. I just started playing a year ago and I love your channel!!
A mistake my play group makes a lot is not assessing threats going in to the game. There is one guy in my play group that likes to build things on the 9-10 power level, and the rest of us play like 6-8 power level decks. Most of the time when we get into the game with this player I tend to be the only one dealing with his threats, and this leads to him winning 90% of the games we play unless I am playing my Grand Arbitor IV deck (which everyone hates so I play that as a last resort). So basically, my play group needs to focus him a little more.
Amaz did nothing wrong. If there was a villain in that game then it was Jimmy for putting mindslaver in his deck in the first place :)
Nah, I'll disagree. Watch that episode again from at least 45 to the end. Just watch her do absolutely nothing with her deck. It's a tokens deck. You can see the decklist online. It's a fairly weak deck. It doesn't really have a ton of things to do where it could explode. She doesn't have things that could deal with his board state. I mean, I guess there are some board wipes there, Hour of Reckoning is a 7mana 4WWW board wipe, Austere Command doesn't kill everything, and it's 4WW. It looks like it'd be a fun deck in certain situations with a certain playground, but not with this group. He easily could have just attacked her and won without being a giant ham.
@@andrewlaverghetta715 it was fine, he just crushed her at the end. Nothing wrong with that. Ultimately she was mana screwed for most of the game, can happen to any deck even very high powered ones.
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Look at that.
@@andrewlaverghetta715 Keep knighting lol.
Please do another? threat assessment episode. Both assessing which cards are threats and which players might be threats, but that would be a lot harder to judge.
4:25 to skip the intro stuff
In my opinion, a mistake is where you accidentally break the rules. Like an easy one that doesn't really have a of of consequences, is forgetting to untap your permanents before you draw, its a mistake, but it doesn't really matter in the end.
All the arguments that are being made here isn't that these moves were 'mistakes', but that there were more optimal moves that could have been done that could have put the person in a better position.
In a format like commander, I don't think you should always be making the most optimal moves. if an opponent is behind on lands and I draw a terrastodon, if I destroy 3 of their lands, they are basically out of the game, which would be an optimal move because I removed an opponent. But that isn't very fun to play against, and I am ruining that persons game. (I'm just using an example) which isn't very fun to play against.
Well i mean going after the guy who has three lands isnt even the optimal play with a terrastodon (obviously least threatening) Surely there would be better permanents to destroy. And by that is what you call accurate threat assessment
@@sulaimanhyatt-butt1453 I'm glad you completely ignored my point and went after a quick example I gave, rather than the actual reason I posted the comment!
You kinda do make the soft point that "this is the optimal play because it removes an opponent" as a means to support the conclusion that you "sometimes dont make the optimal play for the sake of fun" but it buys into this philosophy that "knocking someone out is ALWAYS the optimal play to win" which is PATENTLY false in multiplayer. I get the ultimate conclusion, sometimes you need to make the altruistic play for the sake of the game, but then the example was "meh..."
I was playing a game and kept a one-lander in a Syr Konrad. My goal was just to be telling my opponents what to do. I survived for a stupid long time. A Meren player was trying to combo off and my goal was to just cast my commander and necropotence. I ended winning that game by discarding 30+ creatures with necro in play.
Bucket List Item: Exploit Jimmy and Josh's mistakes at a table one day!
Ahh, playing Archenemy every game, i know the feeling well, Estrid Stax is frowned upon in my playgroup and at my LGS
It looks like DJ is in a few of these, I'd love his take.
Shouldn't the Thorn Mamoth be forced to attack every time a creature is played by its controller? It didn't have a "may" in the card text.
47:28 so glad this questionable play was eventually brought up
@@traycarrot maybe as a missplay, but I personally wouldn't call him an idiot
@@traycarrot Pretty much. One misplay begetting another. When you have a situation where one person is leagues ahead of the other 3, you need to be able to switch gears and go "OK, even looking at this selfishly, forming some alliance to make sure he doesnt win is MY best chance to win." And honestly...the act of not hurting your new allies, read as "don't just swing your giant beatsticks", ends up putting you in an advantage. May not have been able to swing at Jimmy because of the deal, but that doesn't mean I HAVE to swing at my other 2 opponents and do some of your work to kill them. I've won games because I've held damage and suddenly the archenemy didn't have enough damage to actually kill everyone.
My dad and I had a huge argument after a game because we were facing a kamal deck that was gonna trample us to death, and his "answer" to it was Avacyn, and I immediately conceded the game and we had a fight because his threat assessment couldn't even be described as bad, it's nonexistent. So we just don't play together anymore.
Great episode. Love the ones on gameplay.
What you guys think about infinite combos ? Not worth using for the sake of fun?
Craiiiiggggggg! Seriously guys more Craig B is never a bad thing!
Craig and Josh, nice hats.
Worst misplay that happened. Well I consider it a misplay. One of my friends was playing korlash. He had alot of lands and had an equipment that gave it a boost equal to the number of swamps he had. It was a big threat. I got to cast citadel siege in order to tap down the korlash but my other friend counters it for no reason. Then my friend playing korlash casts a sheoldred and my other friend just lets it resolve. Obviously we ended up losing that game
If you want a guy who is more on the humorous side, ask Serge from LRR to join for a game. Hes really fun to play with from everything ive seen. Just, remind him kitchen finx, finks? Idk, just remind him it cannot go in a deck that isnt white green, he tends to do that a lot in commender. Ben Ulmer(i think thats his last name) made it a joke in their christmas commander game using commanders that are red green
44:05 Necropotence causes you to exile discarded cards... so you wouldn't have access to them right?
The Necropotence was stolen by Josh when this happened, so by the time I went to my cleanup step, the rule that my discarded cards would be exiled is no longer in play on my side of the battlefield - jimmy
@@commandcast OH yeah... true... that static effect would no longer effect Jimmy... you guys are really good at magic lol...
Great classic!
Keep up with that little opening act guys!
It's one of the few moments that made my day
Is it a mistake not playing to win? Since whenever I play commander with my friends, there is nothing on the line. I don’t play cards that shut people out of the game, counter spells, or MLD cards so people can play their decks and I just enjoy playing the game with them. Is it better to just play jack and durdle as much as I want since I don’t care about winning, or should I make them earn their wins?
That card is definitely inspired by Jimmys Dino suite
Is the video from Ashlen still coming? The one, where she tests the Drone bag?
So during commander league, a guy I was playing started trash talking telling me he was gonna take my muldrotha once it hit the graveyard (I had a kaya ghostfirm on it). Well he shouldn’t of done that because I had been holding a ground seal because I didn’t want to ruin what his deck was able to do, which was target stuff in graveyards. Anyways, shut his deck down.
Then we got paired up again and feud carries over. he promised to not take my muldrotha if I didn’t ground seal. So instead, I ashiok dream rendered him and just kept exiling his stuff so nothing ever hit the graveyard. Then kept playing ashiok because of muldrotha.
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