@@gregniedzialek5770 Plymouth came up with GTX because GTO was already taken. Really didn't stand for anything. Plymouth later called the GTX the gentleman's muscle car. Mike
My dad bought his 69 440 GTX brand new when he came back from Vietnam. In 1985 he died from Joe Camel and the Marlboro Man. 2 months before he died he gave it to me I still have it, the only thing changed on the car are the wearable parts.
I have a 72 RR that I bought when I was 19 in the Navy during the Vietnam War and I still drive it. I've only changed the wearable parts too. It's 52 years old, I went through it 5 years ago, it's a brand new old muscle car . 340 automatic. From Texas 🤠🥳
I had a 68 GTX and it was a beast. I also own a 64 Dodge Polara with a mild built 440. People on this sight comparing Toyota's to this GTX is like comparing a SCUD missile to a Patriot. Sox and Martin raced with GTX's not Camry's. lol
I got a 13.65 @100.84 mph out of my 69 coronet R/T back in the day,3.55 gears and 440 mag. Still have that thing though it just sits now not neglected though.
Wow the Mopar 440 Super Commando made 375 hp at ONLY 4600 rpm!!! I always knew the 440 was a bad motha, especially the 440 Six Barrel/Six Pack but I didn't quite realize it had that kind of power. Probably makes 440-450 horsepower by the time it hits 6000 rpm. And they had very good street manners compared to the 426 Hemi. You really had to know how to properly tune a Hemi in order to own one. They needed periodic valve adjustments and stuff like that. The 426 Hemi, which was originally designed for use in NASCAR, runs best at high RPM. Not a very good engine for everyday street use. But still the baddest big block of the true muscle car era
I may have already posted this but I can't remember. I went to high school with a guy that drove one of these to school. This was in 1991 if I recall correctly. His had some rust spots under the paint and had the 383, not the 440. It was the coolest car on the lot and there were lots of cars. I last saw him walking across the college parking lot and we spoke for a moment. He had gotten married and said "the wife convinced me to sell the Plymouth, I am trying to buy it back." I'm still single and I am so glad I kept the 1972 truck I drove to that high school. Hang onto your old cars if you can.....you can always get another wife. :)
I worked with a guy who has a restored '68 Charger 440. He said he told the wife that he would never sell it unless he found a car he wanted more. Women, man!
Something was wrong with your friends Plymouth GTX He must have replaced the standard 440 motor with a 383 or the car he was driving was a Sport Satellite with an optional 383.
I find it ironic that even in '69 people were already complaining about computers in cars; I suspect this is more a vacuum valve and links more than electronic in this case.
Definitely my bag. Love B-Body Mopars. My favorite muscle cars. The Roadrunner/Super Bee were generally the lightest and quickest of the bunch depending on options, engine, trans, axle ratio etc. The GTX and Dodge Coronet R/T were more of an upscale executive muscle car like an Olds 442 or Buick GS. The thing I do like better about the GTX/Coronet R/T is that the 440 was the base engine instead of the HiPo 383 that came standard in the Roadrunner/Super Bee. All could be had with the 426 Hemi too though
i always am amazed when my grandfather tells me stories of these cars and what they used to do , and when i watch these video's and i actually see facts i try to still imagine the stories and tell myself please these cars are way faster then what they are showing . All my grandfather ever talks about is his GTX and how he use to smoke everything on the road .
They were fast 4 second or better 0-60 and 12 second 1/4 mile.. The tests were done on a crappy dirty, slippery track. Look at the take off the car sits while the tires are spinning,so the clock is running and the car is sitting and spinning.. I have a bone stock 68 Charger R/T 440 and it outruns my 2010 Challenger SRT-8 ! Both stock !!
Keep in mind what your grandpa would have been up against back in the day. It IS true, most V6 sedans of today could beat a 440 GTX. But most modern V6 sedans could also beat 1960s Maseratis, Jaguars and definitely Porsches. A Porsche 911S was in the high 7-second range to 60, and a Jaguar E-type was barely under 7. There are VERY few cars from the 60s that could outrun a current mid-level Lexus or BMW. The hottest Ferraris could probably do it, maybe the top-level 427 Vette. But not much else. So your grandpa was right, his GTX would have been among the absolute heavyweights back then, it's just that what was fast then and what is fast now are worlds apart. A modern 5.0 Mustang would have been a solid competitor in the NASCAR races of the 60s, bone stock!
Same for my Dad,he tells me all the time about how he beat everything that jumped beside him in his 70 Challenger 383. The good ol days,wish I came up in the 70's...
Yeah, and today, some v6s could not only outrun yesteryear's V8s, today's V6s can get 20+ MPG, last 200,000 miles, start in the rain or cold, and never need a tuneup.
My dad had one of these brand new he got it as soon as he got back from Vietnam. New it ran 13's but after he put on some mohoc drag tires it ran 11's low 12's. His fastest time ever was 11.11 126mph. His had a 4.10 rear end and the automatic. Growing up we had 3 cases full of trophys he won with that car I wish I could find it and buy it. Everybody in my family says it's there dream car. All my uncles and cousins had muscle cars like chevelle 454 nova SS, Camaro RS/SS, Olds 442 and they all said dads was the fastest by a lot. They actually said the car was a freak of mechanical engineering and ran way faster then it should have but dad worked at Chrysler so who knows what he ordered or had done to it but he swears it was bone stock except the tires. They said it would outrun the hemi roadrunners through the quarter but the hemis would blow by him right after the line like he was setting still. His was the 440 magnum super commando tan with black vinyl top. Now according to this my 2014 Dodge Avenger is faster then dads GTX but that's stock tires of course but my car does 0-60 in 6.1 seconds and a 1/4 in 14.2 which is damn good for a 3500lbs V6 3.6 but I highly highly doubt it. For one I have seen the time slips and trophies for his car compared to mine so I know better.
There's literally no way that car at full weight with slicks ran 11.1 factory stock, it must have had a cam, headers, more displacement, head work, something.
Saw a mildly beefed 69 Road Runner 440 4bbl aluminum intake,4500 stall convertor w/ 4.10 gears run 11 sec 1/4 mile on stock modern tires through the mufflers at Great Lakes Dragway Union Grove, Wis. in 2001. Car looked dead stock!!!!! Beautiful to watch launch,too. It never lifted the front wheels up, it lifted the WHOLE BODY and took off!!!! My dad said it reminded him of the Super Stock Dodges of the early 60's. He put slicks on and ran a 10.95 w/ open headers..... Con't....
I think it’s cool how Bud Lindemann says GIT X! The cars back then were so cool and he knew it!!! Sounded like a beast and made me think some decent wheels and tires would chop seconds off these times.
in 82 our landlord owned a white 69 gtx 440 convertible with cragar ss mags. He took me out for a few drives, even raced a couple of cars top down. I owned many rare mopars myself incl a 70 roadrunner conv. Thanks Michel.
Neighbor's step dad had a gloss black 69 GTX, back in the mid 80's. 440-4spd car. I was a kid so don't know what performance mods were done, but it would absolutely annihilate those fat Mickey's in the rear through all four gears!!! Garage kept and always under a car cover. We weren't allowed anywhere near it. The man adored that car, and for good reason. With the fatties out back and skinnies up front that car looked and sounded like a beast. And it was!
I was a "driver mechanic "in 69 and was often the 4 sp performance driver. I am so sad i can't find me in a picture. I didn't take picture cause that was illegal around development projects. My honorable discharge got me the best job ever.
I sat behind my dad hanging on to the bars of the headrest as the ole man banged gears as we beat his buddy’s road runner . It was the twin to this but 4 speed . I was maybe 5 .
If only cars today had the personality and performance of cars of yesterday, and without the computers controlling every little thing the car does. You, the driver, control the car, and not the computer. :)
My cousin bought one of these in 1976. $1000. In 1978,I bought a 69 Torino GT with a 428SCJ and 4.30 posi for $650 and the dealer said that he just sold a 67 Hemi Dart the week before. Yes.that's what he said. A guy in my autoshop class had a 67 L-88 Corvette,another had a 440 'Cuda.Another guy had a 68 GTO... And the rich kids at Midland High had Pacers or Granadas.lol Because of the OPEC oil embargo,Musclecars,especially the big block cars, were, dirt cheap,until about 1980...we either wrecked,or junked 'em..Ha ha!
street max cars weighed about 3550 to 3700 pounds, 115 mph in the 1/4 mile was possible with 9 inch wide slicks of the day. they had 450 to 475 hp at the crank
Fine by me. I'd definitely settle for a 440. Better street engine than the 1966-69 solid lifter Street Hemi's. But the 70-71 Hemi's became a more refined street engine because they used a hydraulic cam for emissions reasons
If you look at today's cars, we've come a long way. Stock 0-60 time on my 96 Integra GSR is 7.1 secs on a 4 cyl 30mpg car with better cornering. Impressive considering that's the exact same stock time for this GTX that likely gets half the gas mileage. Nevertheless, I can't deny that the GTX is a beautiful car. I know some of the new 4 cyls can keep up, but there's still something about the feel and sound of well-tuned classic muscle that makes my heart pump and brings a smile to my face! =)
Those times are with god awful garbage skinny tires...spinning the tires takes alot out of your 0-60 mph and / or 60 foot times..that car with modern rubber easily does 0-60 in under 6 seconds, and of course would handle much better. Lets see your GSR do a burn out like that lol....
Sweet video. For their day, the GTX was one of the best handling big-inch cars on the road. Anyone else notice the at-length description of the Air Grabber system that this one didn't have, even though they said it did? It's a little hard to squeeze that fiberglass box in there with the A/C compressor installed.
I owned a 70 440+6 GTX 4spd Ramcharger hood. Stock crank rods pistons, heads & valve sizes. Racer brown flat tappet 509 lift with sealed power anti pump up lifters. With slicks, headers and better rear gears it went 11.89 in the 1/4.
I wish Car and Track did a review on the Road Runner instead. I love the stripped-down nature of that car.....just a bench seat, 3 speed on the floor, and 383 cubes of go up front. Still, the GTX was awesome.
"It makes the driver feel as though he is driving the thing and not a computer" hearing that in 2019 is pretty funny. If only they knew what was coming
I remember my dad ordered a hemi roadrunner with bench seats and automatic on the column! First person in the showroom bought the car! Too bad I never got to abuse it before someone bought it!
MY FRIEND GOT HIS ROYALTY CHECK FOR THE HIT "TIME WONT WAIT FOREVER" FOR PLAYING LEAD GUITAR IN THE GROUP THE "RIPTIDES" AND ORDER A DRK BLUE 69 GTX WITH A 426 HEMI. HE HAD TO WAIT 12 WEEKS AND GOT IT WITH A 4 SPEED! WOW
It always makes me laugh when people compare '60's and '70's cars to todays cars. How cars of today can completely out perform those cars in every way. Well NO SHIT Sherlock. That's over 40 years difference in technological advancement. Try going back 40 years before the 60's and compare the performance of those cars to the cars of the '60's and '70's. Basically you are doing the same thing.
Big O' straight line car. I had a 1969 Plymouth Satellite 318, looked like a Road Runner, blue very pretty car. As sports cars these cars were lacking big time, I now have a Dodge Intrepid with the cop package and it is a real handler on corners, 3.5 v6 250 hp.
Yeah, when they pop the hood and you see those screw caps on the battery, you know it's the 70's or earlier. Like a rotary dial on a telephone. Or rabbit ears on th TV. Gosh, as Archie and Edith sang, those were the days.
People who would compare this car to a V6 imported grocery getter just don't get it. I grin ear to ear every time I slide behind the huge ribbon-thin steering wheel of my matching numbers B7 69 GTX and twist the pentastar key! As for the highly touted performance of the Camry, I have seen many implode in my rear view as my RB motor sings its strident battle cry! Bet that Camry won't be a standard to compare contemporary performance vehicles to 48 years from now!
I bought a 1969 Road Runner 383 new. It had a STIFF suspension. On the BQE headed toward the Williamsburg, I had to slow it real down cause it would jump lanes because of the piss poor road surface. 4 speed, 3.23 gears, boy did that like to cruise at 80 mph.
"It ain't no Hemi mama, but it's quick". --------------- "If you're a car buyer that falls in the family category, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘢 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘻𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨, this one could be your bag". "The best Get-X yet"... Hell yeah
my neighbor bought one from the classifieds for 1.700 and it was built and had dragway stickers on the rear window it did 12 seconds in the quarter it was a true bullet
Just another little fact about the sixties muscle cars, back in the sixties Car & Driver recorded a 0 to 60 with a Pontiac Catalina, and recorded 3.9 seconds. Can only imagine if it had decent tires...
Ohhahaha That is Sooo Cool !! And Funny at the Same Time !! 😁👍Watching That Boat do the Cones and a little Curvy Turning Really wasn't what I was Expecting ! Next The Challenger. I Think I've seen that in Tran Am. 😉✌️
I wouldn't be so sure Michael Keegan those polyglas tires had extra plys put into them for better grip in I think 1970 you might be right thou I'm go in to have to relook it up
Love the car, I had a 69 RR, but if you have to use power to rotate the car it is not going to run the course fast. Most of the big 3's 400+ CI engine cars in stock condition just don't put out the kind of trap speed that would get you anywhere but solidly in the 13's. So good but not much beyond quick even when you give them traction.
I don't know. Several cars I had ran 100mph in the quarter, stock. That is more than enough for 13's. 70 383 RR, 66' GTO 389 Tripower, 69' Dart Swinger, 69 Olds F85 W31, 65' Impala SS 396 did it pretty easily. The ones that ran much better than expected were the 67' Belvedere with a 383/4 Speed, and the 70 Sport Fury with a 440. The real shocker was the 71 Buick 225 4 door hardtop with a Stage 1 455, and a 3.15 Posi rear. It was heavy enough it just hooked and went, and even at close to 5000lbs it ran 99.1 mph! All of them just had a sharp tuneup, and some had aftermarket wheels and tires. Some had some serious gears in them but were factory - the W31 olds 350 had a 4.30 gear from the factory! Most were 3.55-3.91 however.
Its funny how some people post comments about how today's are faster than a 45 year old muscle car. A Hellcat and Super Snake are about 60 grand, and a Ford SHO is only a 13 second car, just like some muscle cars are 13 second cars.... even though most are 14 or 15 second cars. A muscle car's performance from the 70's is still respectable by today's standard.
fastcop136 People that have only driven modern cars and don't have any skills for a 45 year old car won't understand, but they can hang in the corners as good as any equivalent assembly line car today. All you gotta do is strap on some modern radial tires and some large brass.....
+gtn383ci I'm sorry but these old cars will still handle like absolute hell with modern tires. Their suspension is awful from a performance standpoint, grippy tires will only further exploit the already atrocious body roll. A modern equivalent would be a Hellcat, and that would blow the doors off of this thing in the corners. And Hellcats don't corner very well by today's standards. Muscle cars look cool, sound great, and are a ton of fun, I love them. But they are not fast in the corners without extensive pro-touring modifications.
The muscle cars from the 60's & 70's were fast but in the day we always had traction problems, braking issues and we never worried about handling because most didnt especially the big blocks. Today, the new cars launch much better, run more consistently, handle and brake much better. Would I rather have a 68 Charger R/T than a 2016 Charger Hemi? Hell yes but the new one will out perform the old one in everyway but looks and nostalgia.
Shhhiiiiiitttt my 1976 Ford LTD does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds at half throttle with the 400 V8 :D No disrespect intended. I love these videos and i sure as hell love Plymouth and Dodge.
4211959 : I failed to make myself perfectly clear. The Road Runner came STANDARD with a 383. If you wanted a different engine, you had to order it. The GTX came standard with the 440. Do you know what was the year the 440 came out? Before, Chrysler's biggest engine was the 413. I had a 1972 Newport with a 400 V-8. The 400 is a bigger bore than the 440. The 440 has a longer stroke, but the 400 is a bigger bore. The 400 is basically a bored out 383. They both have the same stroke.
Btw 2:75:1 is a pretty tall gearing ratio, will probably save you a lot of gas.. and make your Ford a lovely cruiser.. 40-50 mph just off idle sounds relaxing... :)
Even though the tires sucked the 1/4 mile MPH will be very close to the same with bias ply or slicks, a 3.23 or 3.91 rear ratio. The 1/4 mile speed indicates the amount of power the car has to the wheels and really doesn’t change much due to traction or gearing. A 1969 Plymouth GTX 440 with a factory tune, through the mufflers would run about 96 mph in the quarter. That equates to a minimum elapsed time for that speed of 14.09 seconds. Its just not capable of running 13’s in street trim.
@MrPFFlyer yeah, I was there. I had one, all my friends had cars like that. I had a 69 Mustang Boss 302, my chums had Hemi Chargers, Ford Torino SCJ's, Challengers, Camaros, you name it. They are fond memories but don't compare to a new car. A new Mustang V6 will outrun most of them.
The 68-70's handled better than the 71-79 b bodies, even with front and rear sway bars on the later models. The older cars were lighter, and had a narrower rear track that seemed to make them more neutral in cornering, less oversteer. Still love to watch get rung out though!
Well, having had a 69 Charger R/T 4 speed, which I drove the socks off of, and having owned several 71 to 79 B's I can tell you the difference was vast in handling characteristics. Maybe it was the extra wheelbase, lack of weight, more power to 'get out of trouble' in an under/oversteer situation on that 69. I do know that Chrysler fiddled around with spring rates from 73 on along with that lousy isolated rubber mounting system that made the cars feel very disconnected from the road. Weights kept going up and up while engine power and response went way down. For example, my 72 Coronet sedan handled ok.. just ok, with its standard suspension and lil 318. My 76 Fury sedan, with its standard suspension and 318 was scary in the rain. Very tail happy. Mileage was much worse as well. Just some of examples of why I feel the older 68-70s were better overall cars, that's all.
Adam Trombino Hey thanks a lot. When I get my 70 Charger and GTX up and running,I'm going to test it against my dads 71 charger and my 71 satellite. Thanks again for that info. Coming from a fellow veteran Mopar owner,I know your word is tried and true. Thanks again friend.
Well. after 20+ yrs of playing w Mopars, here's what I know.. Again, seems the 68-70 models w the factory hd suspension seem to be better balanced and controllable off the show room floor. I suppose the 67s would be too, though I've never driven 1.. That said, on my latest 79 300 ( Cordoba shell) I put it on a serious diet, lost almost 400 lbs, and modified the suspension with 1 5/16th torsion bars, stock hd frt and rear swaybars, polyurethane bushings throughout, modified Hemi rear leaves, KYB shocks, solid front subframe mounts, ( poly's are available from sources like Just Suspension and PST ) lowered the frt end 1 3/4 inches, lowered the rear 2.5 inches, set the frt caster to positive 5* 0 toe, stock camber. That being said, the car tracks beautifully, though the ride is stiff. 1 finger driving straight ahead. As long as I am careful w the throttle, it'll go around a corner like a Vette. I am using 255/60 tires. Now.. in the rain the car is very tail happy. Even on dry pavement, once that Sure Grip is trying to hook, the car will want to skip around in a turn under power. Gotta be careful! I've had that thing in a power slide that would make foreign cars cry! Another thing of note is brakes. please, do not rely on drums at the corners! Get at least a hd frt disc brake kit w semi metallic pads, and rear shoes, for much better stopping power. 10 inch rear drums also won't cut it. Find an 11 inch backing plate off a full sized car and adapt it over. Alot of 'newer' B's and C's had them, swap them out. R and M police/taxi cars had them too. Updating the factory brakes is very important for 'spirited driving' Wink wink..
Adam Trombino Thanks a lot, you have a 79 300. Hmm yep pretty good car but my favorite and also another dream mopar is the 78-79 Dodge Magnum. I want one so bad,hopefully I'll be able to get one... I think my 71 satellite sebring with 383 has drums in the back,as my 70 Charger and GTX and I thought that discs in the front alone might get the job done,but I'm glad you recommended me to get rear drums as well. I know a little about mopars,but not as much as you. Maybe you could help me out when I get to doing the restorations,I'll subscribe to you,so I know how to contact you sometimes and ask your advice...What videos do you frequently watch on TH-cam?
The best modern musclecar is the 2002/2004 Z06 which has posted high 11's completely stock and low mid 11's with just a good tune and better tires. They weigh just over 3000 pounds and can be had for around 25 grand and Hemi Heads are now available for LS series engines. Most cars today with turbos/superchargers/VVT/DOHC and AWD cannot beat these cars and if they do it's not by much and it's usually a car that cost over 70 grand more to get it done.
Had bronze / or copper color one in late seventies. Remember the sound of wot, had 50's on back, and then with stupid gas prices I had to sell it. Man I wish I'd kept it in storage.
I am almost 66 and a true gear head. This is the first time I have ever heard a GTX called a gettix or Jittix.
C moore trying to create an acronym like GOAT
What did GTX stand for?
@@gregniedzialek5770 Plymouth came up with GTX
because GTO was already taken. Really didn't
stand for anything. Plymouth later called the
GTX the gentleman's muscle car. Mike
Gran Touring eXperimental.
Some kinda chrome cricket? We don't need that horn...
My dad bought his 69
440 GTX brand new when he came back from Vietnam.
In 1985 he died from Joe Camel and the Marlboro Man. 2 months before he died he gave it to me I still have it, the only thing changed on the car are the wearable parts.
Wow. What a story. I love it. And I luuuv these cars. You have a gem. I can only dream.
I love these video's too. It's stunning indeed.
@@johanbrand8601 thanks, I REALLY wish my dad was here, But the car is a dream.
Just found a 69 GTX in Florida. 95% of the car is
still there. I am getting the car even if I have to sell
my soul. Mike
Thats so awesome! RIP to your Dad
I have a 72 RR that I bought when I was 19 in the Navy during the Vietnam War and I still drive it. I've only changed the wearable parts too. It's 52 years old, I went through it 5 years ago, it's a brand new old muscle car . 340 automatic. From Texas 🤠🥳
I had a 68 GTX and it was a beast. I also own a 64 Dodge Polara with a mild built 440. People on this sight comparing Toyota's to this GTX is like comparing a SCUD missile to a Patriot. Sox and Martin raced with GTX's not Camry's. lol
I got a 13.65 @100.84 mph out of my 69 coronet R/T back in the day,3.55 gears and 440 mag.
Still have that thing though it just sits now not neglected though.
Wow the Mopar 440 Super Commando made 375 hp at ONLY 4600 rpm!!! I always knew the 440 was a bad motha, especially the 440 Six Barrel/Six Pack but I didn't quite realize it had that kind of power. Probably makes 440-450 horsepower by the time it hits 6000 rpm. And they had very good street manners compared to the 426 Hemi. You really had to know how to properly tune a Hemi in order to own one. They needed periodic valve adjustments and stuff like that. The 426 Hemi, which was originally designed for use in NASCAR, runs best at high RPM. Not a very good engine for everyday street use. But still the baddest big block of the true muscle car era
I may have already posted this but I can't remember. I went to high school with a guy that drove one of these to school. This was in 1991 if I recall correctly. His had some rust spots under the paint and had the 383, not the 440. It was the coolest car on the lot and there were lots of cars.
I last saw him walking across the college parking lot and we spoke for a moment. He had gotten married and said "the wife convinced me to sell the Plymouth, I am trying to buy it back."
I'm still single and I am so glad I kept the 1972 truck I drove to that high school. Hang onto your old cars if you can.....you can always get another wife. :)
I worked with a guy who has a restored '68 Charger 440. He said he told the wife that he would never sell it unless he found a car he wanted more. Women, man!
PotatoGunsRule yup still have my 69 charger rt grom i high school i bought in 1976😊
Hopefully, a wife who loves old muscle cars too! There are lots of 'em out there!!!
to bad he put the 383 in.. it came with a 440 or a hemi
Something was wrong with your friends Plymouth GTX
He must have replaced the standard 440 motor with a 383 or the car he was driving was a Sport Satellite with an optional 383.
I find it ironic that even in '69 people were already complaining about computers in cars; I suspect this is more a vacuum valve and links more than electronic in this case.
I never knew the GTX could handle like that. Pretty impressive for a car that size, especially with the "Polyglide" tires.
oh this one is my bag alright! I'm off to my local Plymouth dealer right now! Oh wait.....
icemanroyal oh wait they shut down in 2001 rip Plymouth
Definitely my bag. Love B-Body Mopars. My favorite muscle cars. The Roadrunner/Super Bee were generally the lightest and quickest of the bunch depending on options, engine, trans, axle ratio etc. The GTX and Dodge Coronet R/T were more of an upscale executive muscle car like an Olds 442 or Buick GS. The thing I do like better about the GTX/Coronet R/T is that the 440 was the base engine instead of the HiPo 383 that came standard in the Roadrunner/Super Bee. All could be had with the 426 Hemi too though
Buy American while you still can. Oh shucks!
The Gittics has a crazy set of legs!...on the quarter-mile route to Squeelsville!!
it ain't no hemi mama, but it moves!
karl kamphefner - pass the bongos daddy-oh !
Very surprised how well the gtx handled all those tests definitely a daily driver
Love these old tests that describe the styling in detail as if the viewer is blind.
i always am amazed when my grandfather tells me stories of these cars and what they used to do , and when i watch these video's and i actually see facts i try to still imagine the stories and tell myself please these cars are way faster then what they are showing . All my grandfather ever talks about is his GTX and how he use to smoke everything on the road .
They were fast 4 second or better 0-60 and 12 second 1/4 mile..
The tests were done on a crappy dirty, slippery track.
Look at the take off the car sits while the tires are spinning,so the clock is running and the car is sitting and spinning..
I have a bone stock 68 Charger R/T 440 and it outruns my 2010 Challenger SRT-8 ! Both stock !!
grampy is right...... i grew up back then...a lot of fun and i was paying 45 cents a gallon in 1976
Keep in mind what your grandpa would have been up against back in the day. It IS true, most V6 sedans of today could beat a 440 GTX. But most modern V6 sedans could also beat 1960s Maseratis, Jaguars and definitely Porsches. A Porsche 911S was in the high 7-second range to 60, and a Jaguar E-type was barely under 7. There are VERY few cars from the 60s that could outrun a current mid-level Lexus or BMW. The hottest Ferraris could probably do it, maybe the top-level 427 Vette. But not much else.
So your grandpa was right, his GTX would have been among the absolute heavyweights back then, it's just that what was fast then and what is fast now are worlds apart. A modern 5.0 Mustang would have been a solid competitor in the NASCAR races of the 60s, bone stock!
Same for my Dad,he tells me all the time about how he beat everything that jumped beside him in his 70 Challenger 383. The good ol days,wish I came up in the 70's...
Yeah, and today, some v6s could not only outrun yesteryear's V8s, today's V6s can get 20+ MPG, last 200,000 miles, start in the rain or cold, and never need a tuneup.
"Down the 1/4 mile route to Squeelsville".......... love it
Bud's copy was onomatopoeia 100%
This is cool
That is NOT an N96 air grabber car.
'69 was the best looking model for sure.
69 was cool, but 67 was the best.
My favorite GTX is the original...the 67
@@karlkamphefner8529 There all good and I most definitely would not forget about the 71!.
I am 65 and when i was a teen i couldnt wait for this show to come one, Bud was a great and honest guy.
"It aint no HEMI mama" LMAO.......love this show and the catchy phrases.
My buddy had a 69 roadrunner with a 383. 4spd white with a black vinyl top. Loved that car!
I had a buddy decades ago with a brown 1970 Cuda 440 six-pack 4 speed, that sucka moved!
My dad had one of these brand new he got it as soon as he got back from Vietnam. New it ran 13's but after he put on some mohoc drag tires it ran 11's low 12's. His fastest time ever was 11.11 126mph. His had a 4.10 rear end and the automatic. Growing up we had 3 cases full of trophys he won with that car I wish I could find it and buy it. Everybody in my family says it's there dream car. All my uncles and cousins had muscle cars like chevelle 454 nova SS, Camaro RS/SS, Olds 442 and they all said dads was the fastest by a lot. They actually said the car was a freak of mechanical engineering and ran way faster then it should have but dad worked at Chrysler so who knows what he ordered or had done to it but he swears it was bone stock except the tires. They said it would outrun the hemi roadrunners through the quarter but the hemis would blow by him right after the line like he was setting still. His was the 440 magnum super commando tan with black vinyl top. Now according to this my 2014 Dodge Avenger is faster then dads GTX but that's stock tires of course but my car does 0-60 in 6.1 seconds and a 1/4 in 14.2 which is damn good for a 3500lbs V6 3.6 but I highly highly doubt it. For one I have seen the time slips and trophies for his car compared to mine so I know better.
Chrysler advertised 440 SixPack 4 speed cars at 13 flat... 110 mph... 4 bbl. 440's were much slower, the 4 bbl. Magnum cam was too mild...
@@BuzzLOLOL
440 gtx and runner were like 13.80 with crap TIRES
There's literally no way that car at full weight with slicks ran 11.1 factory stock, it must have had a cam, headers, more displacement, head work, something.
Nice... I always liked the '69 tail lights on the GTX and Road Runner😏👍🚗🏡
Saw a mildly beefed 69 Road Runner 440 4bbl aluminum intake,4500 stall convertor w/ 4.10 gears run 11 sec 1/4 mile on stock modern tires through the mufflers at Great Lakes Dragway Union Grove, Wis. in 2001. Car looked dead stock!!!!! Beautiful to watch launch,too. It never lifted the front wheels up, it lifted the WHOLE BODY and took off!!!! My dad said it reminded him of the Super Stock Dodges of the early 60's. He put slicks on and ran a 10.95 w/ open headers..... Con't....
Back when spokesman all had that two packs a day and bourbon voice...
I think it’s cool how Bud Lindemann says GIT X! The cars back then were so cool and he knew it!!! Sounded like a beast and made me think some decent wheels and tires would chop seconds off these times.
in 82 our landlord owned a white 69 gtx 440 convertible with cragar ss mags. He took me out for a few drives, even raced a couple of cars top down. I owned many rare mopars myself incl a 70 roadrunner conv. Thanks Michel.
I just LOVE these vintage road tests.
Bud lindeman & crew the original "no prep" racers. I really appreciate these videos
The only thing missing was the 1/4 mile E.T. Awesome video 💪❤ Mopar👌
Neighbor's step dad had a gloss black 69 GTX, back in the mid 80's. 440-4spd car. I was a kid so don't know what performance mods were done, but it would absolutely annihilate those fat Mickey's in the rear through all four gears!!!
Garage kept and always under a car cover. We weren't allowed anywhere near it. The man adored that car, and for good reason. With the fatties out back and skinnies up front that car looked and sounded like a beast. And it was!
one of my first hi-perf experiences was a friends 69 gtx convertible it was a total blast late-night top down 440 super commando, 727
"....a slight hint of oversteer..."
....as the rear wheels slide out ahead of the driver LOL
🤣Great Comment
I was a "driver mechanic "in 69 and was often the 4 sp performance driver. I am so sad i can't find me in a picture. I didn't take picture cause that was illegal around development projects. My honorable discharge got me the best job ever.
I miss my '70 GTX 440 Commando. I still dream about it....35 years later.
I sat behind my dad hanging on to the bars of the headrest as the ole man banged gears as we beat his buddy’s road runner . It was the twin to this but 4 speed . I was maybe 5 .
Beautiful in all respects. I wonder tho how much better the times would have been if the driver could figure out how to hook up the tires
If only cars today had the personality and performance of cars of yesterday, and without the computers controlling every little thing the car does. You, the driver, control the car, and not the computer. :)
Jason Carpp Computers make cars faster how do you think The Hellcat and 840hp Demon exist.
Most new drivers don't have skill. Too busy with iphone, adn double double latte to worry about actually driving.
My cousin bought one of these in 1976. $1000. In 1978,I bought a 69 Torino GT with a 428SCJ and 4.30 posi for $650 and the dealer said that he just sold a 67 Hemi Dart the week before. Yes.that's what he said. A guy in my autoshop class had a 67 L-88 Corvette,another had a 440 'Cuda.Another guy had a 68 GTO... And the rich kids at Midland High had Pacers or Granadas.lol Because of the OPEC oil embargo,Musclecars,especially the big block cars, were, dirt cheap,until about 1980...we either wrecked,or junked 'em..Ha ha!
street max cars weighed about 3550 to 3700 pounds, 115 mph in the 1/4 mile was possible with 9 inch wide slicks of the day. they had 450 to 475 hp at the crank
68-70 b-body mopar is hard to beat.
It ain't no Hemi mama!
Fine by me. I'd definitely settle for a 440. Better street engine than the 1966-69 solid lifter Street Hemi's. But the 70-71 Hemi's became a more refined street engine because they used a hydraulic cam for emissions reasons
@@jeremythompson9122 Strong street engine > de-tuned race engine
A good friend bought a new 1969 Roadrunner for I think $3500.00 , it sits in his garage with less than 35 K on it. 383 bench , Hurst shifter .
If you look at today's cars, we've come a long way. Stock 0-60 time on my 96 Integra GSR is 7.1 secs on a 4 cyl 30mpg car with better cornering. Impressive considering that's the exact same stock time for this GTX that likely gets half the gas mileage. Nevertheless, I can't deny that the GTX is a beautiful car. I know some of the new 4 cyls can keep up, but there's still something about the feel and sound of well-tuned classic muscle that makes my heart pump and brings a smile to my face! =)
Those times are with god awful garbage skinny tires...spinning the tires takes alot out of your 0-60 mph and / or 60 foot times..that car with modern rubber easily does 0-60 in under 6 seconds, and of course would handle much better. Lets see your GSR do a burn out like that lol....
loving the "slight hint of oversteer" at 4:42 as he's looking through the passengers window haha
little bit.
Sweet video. For their day, the GTX was one of the best handling big-inch cars on the road. Anyone else notice the at-length description of the Air Grabber system that this one didn't have, even though they said it did? It's a little hard to squeeze that fiberglass box in there with the A/C compressor installed.
Also the sound track was funky, either they were neutral slamming or it was a manual, but it didn't have a Dana 60!
I owned a 70 440+6 GTX 4spd Ramcharger hood. Stock crank rods pistons, heads & valve sizes. Racer brown flat tappet 509 lift with sealed power anti pump up lifters. With slicks, headers and better rear gears it went 11.89 in the 1/4.
Great family car if you have a strong zest for life
I wish Car and Track did a review on the Road Runner instead. I love the stripped-down nature of that car.....just a bench seat, 3 speed on the floor, and 383 cubes of go up front. Still, the GTX was awesome.
Impressed with the lack of lean and the tendency for oversteer. Never thought a B'Body was much of a drivers car.
"It makes the driver feel as though he is driving the thing and not a computer" hearing that in 2019 is pretty funny. If only they knew what was coming
I remember my dad ordered a hemi roadrunner with bench seats and automatic on the column! First person in the showroom bought the car! Too bad I never got to abuse it before someone bought it!
Back in 1968 I was torn between a 440 Dodge Charger & a Pontiac GTO... I bought the 400 Cubic Inch GTO and it was a great choice for me,
John L you still have them
I had a 1968 GTO, that thing was powerful!
MY FRIEND GOT HIS ROYALTY CHECK FOR THE HIT "TIME WONT WAIT FOREVER" FOR PLAYING LEAD GUITAR IN THE GROUP THE "RIPTIDES" AND ORDER A DRK BLUE 69 GTX WITH A 426 HEMI. HE HAD TO WAIT 12 WEEKS AND GOT IT WITH A 4 SPEED! WOW
OMG..If only cars were made like this today.
You've gotta love this clip at 4:40;
"...at high speed cornering there's a slight hint of over-steer"
Same 0-60 as my 1997 VW Passat Wagon! Somehow I'd rather have the Road Runner.
It always makes me laugh when people compare '60's and '70's cars to todays cars. How cars of today can completely out perform those cars in every way. Well NO SHIT Sherlock. That's over 40 years difference in technological advancement. Try going back 40 years before the 60's and compare the performance of those cars to the cars of the '60's and '70's. Basically you are doing the same thing.
Vaya buen video pues pura Nostalgia sobre este Plymouth gtx 440 six pack Hemi de 1969 pues
Loved the part when the presenter says "The Driver is running the thing, not the computer".
Big O' straight line car. I had a 1969 Plymouth Satellite 318, looked like a Road Runner, blue very pretty car. As sports cars these cars were lacking big time, I now have a Dodge Intrepid with the cop package and it is a real handler on corners, 3.5 v6 250 hp.
THATS CRAZY. YOU CAN TELL THIS IS FROM THE 60S. GREAT VIDEO
Yeah, when they pop the hood and you see those screw caps on the battery, you know it's the 70's or earlier. Like a rotary dial on a telephone. Or rabbit ears on th TV. Gosh, as Archie and Edith sang, those were the days.
I need one of those cars. The exact same as the one in the video. It's so nice.
You have to look, but you can find them. I just did. Mike
I find it interesting how the GTX was available with the column-shift automatic, were they rarer than the console shift automatic?
People who would compare this car to a V6 imported grocery getter just don't get it. I grin ear to ear every time I slide behind the huge ribbon-thin steering wheel of my matching numbers B7 69 GTX and twist the pentastar key! As for the highly touted performance of the Camry, I have seen many implode in my rear view as my RB motor sings its strident battle cry! Bet that Camry won't be a standard to compare contemporary performance vehicles to 48 years from now!
I bought a 1969 Road Runner 383 new. It had a STIFF suspension. On the BQE headed toward the Williamsburg, I had to slow it real down cause it would jump lanes because of the piss poor road surface. 4 speed, 3.23 gears, boy did that like to cruise at 80 mph.
It was called the air grabber on the roadrunners too they just had a decal on air cleaner saying coyote duster
"It ain't no Hemi mama, but it's quick".
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"If you're a car buyer that falls in the family category, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘢 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘻𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨, this one could be your bag".
"The best Get-X yet"...
Hell yeah
it was the road course that garnered real respect
my neighbor bought one from the classifieds for 1.700 and it was built and had dragway stickers on the rear window it did 12 seconds in the quarter it was a true bullet
Gotta love the soundtrack for the engine sounds in the slalom 🤣
Just another little fact about the sixties muscle cars, back in the sixties Car & Driver recorded a 0 to 60 with a Pontiac Catalina, and recorded 3.9 seconds. Can only imagine if it had decent tires...
That car had a racing engine
Ohhahaha That is Sooo Cool !! And Funny at the Same Time !! 😁👍Watching That Boat do the Cones and a little Curvy Turning Really wasn't what I was Expecting ! Next The Challenger. I Think I've seen that in Tran Am. 😉✌️
That's true. 12.5 seconds @ 114 mph, to be exact. I have a Car Life road test of that car.It also had 4.56 gears and a stock engine.
I wouldn't be so sure Michael Keegan those polyglas tires had extra plys put into them for better grip in I think 1970 you might be right thou I'm go in to have to relook it up
“ it ain’t no hemi mama” - love it 💜
This is the car I always wanted
Love the engine sound
@Jabberdau They used several different tracks for the show, but I think this one was at Grattan Raceway near Belding, MI.
Love the car, I had a 69 RR, but if you have to use power to rotate the car it is not going to run the course fast. Most of the big 3's 400+ CI engine cars in stock condition just don't put out the kind of trap speed that would get you anywhere but solidly in the 13's. So good but not much beyond quick even when you give them traction.
I don't know. Several cars I had ran 100mph in the quarter, stock. That is more than enough for 13's. 70 383 RR, 66' GTO 389 Tripower, 69' Dart Swinger, 69 Olds F85 W31, 65' Impala SS 396 did it pretty easily.
The ones that ran much better than expected were the 67' Belvedere with a 383/4 Speed, and the 70 Sport Fury with a 440. The real shocker was the 71 Buick 225 4 door hardtop with a Stage 1 455, and a 3.15 Posi rear. It was heavy enough it just hooked and went, and even at close to 5000lbs it ran 99.1 mph!
All of them just had a sharp tuneup, and some had aftermarket wheels and tires. Some had some serious gears in them but were factory - the W31 olds 350 had a 4.30 gear from the factory! Most were 3.55-3.91 however.
Union Blacksmith : The 440 came out in 1966. 1965 was the last year for the 413.
Its funny how some people post comments about how today's are faster than a 45 year old muscle car. A Hellcat and Super Snake are about 60 grand, and a Ford SHO is only a 13 second car, just like some muscle cars are 13 second cars.... even though most are 14 or 15 second cars. A muscle car's performance from the 70's is still respectable by today's standard.
fastcop136 People that have only driven modern cars and don't have any skills for a 45 year old car won't understand, but they can hang in the corners as good as any equivalent assembly line car today. All you gotta do is strap on some modern radial tires and some large brass.....
+gtn383ci I'm sorry but these old cars will still handle like absolute hell with modern tires. Their suspension is awful from a performance standpoint, grippy tires will only further exploit the already atrocious body roll.
A modern equivalent would be a Hellcat, and that would blow the doors off of this thing in the corners. And Hellcats don't corner very well by today's standards.
Muscle cars look cool, sound great, and are a ton of fun, I love them. But they are not fast in the corners without extensive pro-touring modifications.
The muscle cars from the 60's & 70's were fast but in the day we always had traction problems, braking issues and we never worried about handling because most didnt especially the big blocks. Today, the new cars launch much better, run more consistently, handle and brake much better. Would I rather have a 68 Charger R/T than a 2016 Charger Hemi? Hell yes but the new one will out perform the old one in everyway but looks and nostalgia.
Shhhiiiiiitttt my 1976 Ford LTD does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds at half throttle with the 400 V8 :D No disrespect intended. I love these videos and i sure as hell love Plymouth and Dodge.
This is so satisfying!
When not doing dragnet monologues, they plugged Plymouths. OPEC approved of this commercial...
Beautiful cars. I wish I owned one today. But the issue with most Mopars was that they were too too heavy.
4211959 : I failed to make myself perfectly clear. The Road Runner came STANDARD with a 383. If you wanted a different engine, you had to order it. The GTX came standard with the 440. Do you know what was the year the 440 came out? Before, Chrysler's biggest engine was the 413. I had a 1972 Newport with a 400 V-8. The 400 is a bigger bore than the 440. The 440 has a longer stroke, but the 400 is a bigger bore. The 400 is basically a bored out 383. They both have the same stroke.
After the 413 Chrysler had a 426 wedge before the hemi came out for NASCAR and NHRA in 1964...
66 was first year for the 440
love the backing music
crazymanbrad cool cars and great music.
Btw 2:75:1 is a pretty tall gearing ratio, will probably save you a lot of gas.. and make your Ford a lovely cruiser.. 40-50 mph just off idle sounds relaxing... :)
If Bud was born 20 years later we would be getting gems like "this car is more fun than a Weekend at Bernies."
@sloman571 newer cars also use fuel more efficiently, generating more horsepower with more miles per gallon than the old gas guzzlers.
This is y cops liked the Mopar B bodies of the day!
Yo bro, I posted a red 69 RoadRunner SuperBee like this from TNN 20yrs ago!
Even though the tires sucked the 1/4 mile MPH will be very close to the same with bias ply or slicks, a 3.23 or 3.91 rear ratio. The 1/4 mile speed indicates the amount of power the car has to the wheels and really doesn’t change much due to traction or gearing. A 1969 Plymouth GTX 440 with a factory tune, through the mufflers would run about 96 mph in the quarter. That equates to a minimum elapsed time for that speed of 14.09 seconds. Its just not capable of running 13’s in street trim.
"Every Which Way But Loose" came out in '78. The song and the movie.🤔
that is a super rair car, a GTX with power steering, breaks, A/C, bumpergards, is it still around?
@MrPFFlyer yeah, I was there. I had one, all my friends had cars like that. I had a 69 Mustang Boss 302, my chums had Hemi Chargers, Ford Torino SCJ's, Challengers, Camaros, you name it. They are fond memories but don't compare to a new car. A new Mustang V6 will outrun most of them.
The 68-70's handled better than the 71-79 b bodies, even with front and rear sway bars on the later models. The older cars were lighter, and had a narrower rear track that seemed to make them more neutral in cornering, less oversteer. Still love to watch get rung out though!
How come. The power of all motors for Mopar were decreased after 71, so how would the post 71's handle worse?
Well, having had a 69 Charger R/T 4 speed, which I drove the socks off of, and having owned several 71 to 79 B's I can tell you the difference was vast in handling characteristics. Maybe it was the extra wheelbase, lack of weight, more power to 'get out of trouble' in an under/oversteer situation on that 69. I do know that Chrysler fiddled around with spring rates from 73 on along with that lousy isolated rubber mounting system that made the cars feel very disconnected from the road. Weights kept going up and up while engine power and response went way down. For example, my 72 Coronet sedan handled ok.. just ok, with its standard suspension and lil 318. My 76 Fury sedan, with its standard suspension and 318 was scary in the rain. Very tail happy. Mileage was much worse as well. Just some of examples of why I feel the older 68-70s were better overall cars, that's all.
Adam Trombino Hey thanks a lot. When I get my 70 Charger and GTX up and running,I'm going to test it against my dads 71 charger and my 71 satellite. Thanks again for that info. Coming from a fellow veteran Mopar owner,I know your word is tried and true. Thanks again friend.
Well. after 20+ yrs of playing w Mopars, here's what I know.. Again, seems the 68-70 models w the factory hd suspension seem to be better balanced and controllable off the show room floor. I suppose the 67s would be too, though I've never driven 1.. That said, on my latest 79 300 ( Cordoba shell) I put it on a serious diet, lost almost 400 lbs, and modified the suspension with 1 5/16th torsion bars, stock hd frt and rear swaybars, polyurethane bushings throughout, modified Hemi rear leaves, KYB shocks, solid front subframe mounts, ( poly's are available from sources like Just Suspension and PST ) lowered the frt end 1 3/4 inches, lowered the rear 2.5 inches, set the frt caster to positive 5* 0 toe, stock camber. That being said, the car tracks beautifully, though the ride is stiff. 1 finger driving straight ahead. As long as I am careful w the throttle, it'll go around a corner like a Vette. I am using 255/60 tires. Now.. in the rain the car is very tail happy. Even on dry pavement, once that Sure Grip is trying to hook, the car will want to skip around in a turn under power. Gotta be careful! I've had that thing in a power slide that would make foreign cars cry! Another thing of note is brakes. please, do not rely on drums at the corners! Get at least a hd frt disc brake kit w semi metallic pads, and rear shoes, for much better stopping power. 10 inch rear drums also won't cut it. Find an 11 inch backing plate off a full sized car and adapt it over. Alot of 'newer' B's and C's had them, swap them out. R and M police/taxi cars had them too. Updating the factory brakes is very important for 'spirited driving' Wink wink..
Adam Trombino Thanks a lot, you have a 79 300. Hmm yep pretty good car but my favorite and also another dream mopar is the 78-79 Dodge Magnum. I want one so bad,hopefully I'll be able to get one... I think my 71 satellite sebring with 383 has drums in the back,as my 70 Charger and GTX and I thought that discs in the front alone might get the job done,but I'm glad you recommended me to get rear drums as well. I know a little about mopars,but not as much as you. Maybe you could help me out when I get to doing the restorations,I'll subscribe to you,so I know how to contact you sometimes and ask your advice...What videos do you frequently watch on TH-cam?
The best modern musclecar is the 2002/2004 Z06 which has posted high 11's completely stock and low mid 11's with just a good tune and better tires. They weigh just over 3000 pounds and can be had for around 25 grand and Hemi Heads are now available for LS series engines. Most cars today with turbos/superchargers/VVT/DOHC and AWD cannot beat these cars and if they do it's not by much and it's usually a car that cost over 70 grand more to get it done.
Groovy, this sort of car is my bag baby, yeah!
A vision of beauty!
Had bronze / or copper color one in late seventies. Remember the sound of wot, had 50's on back, and then with stupid gas prices I had to sell it. Man I wish I'd kept it in storage.