In an interview right after this, Mao said "I had a lot of regrets in today's game. Many of my jumps were failures." "I like this program, so I'm happy that it got a high rating." "I couldn't show where I've been working hard." Mao's antagonists are blaming her for this, but this result is a rare case for Mao. No one is happy with the result. Judge is wrong.
I didn't say "only" I said "every negative comments I checked were koreans" it's not prejudice it's a fact. and you are korean too... like I said in my previous comment, I also surprised at the result at first. but if you see the score sheets of both SP and FS, there are no "ridiculous" marks for Mao. and Mao was ahead of 10 points in SP, Akiko won the FS with 126 points! I think Mirai's score was a bit too low but other than that, it's pretty fair score.
I really love her, she's one of my favourite skaters... But this didn't have the usual mao-feeling... Poor mao... She messed up the jumps but tge step sequence was quite good and i could see mao again
I'm a Mao fan and I agree that Akiko should have won this. Mao should've placed fourth in the freeskate (behind Suzuki, Nagasu and Li) and finished third overall. At the same time, you guys shouldn't hate on Mao. You should blame the judges for ridiculously overscoring her. Even she was surprised by her victory and wasn't too happy about it. I swear, judges have gotten so biased nowadays and are always letting the "favorite" win. Look at Skate Canada as well!
wear your glasses!!!! she did not get downgraded or received 2 GOE points for any element. She did one 2L and got .26 goe . The 3Loop in combination recived .5 GOE. Even-though she doubled out on a few jumps but none of her elements were downgraded. In this sport, you are rewarded more for perfecting an easier jumps then failing a hard one. She learned from her years of going for countless 3 axels and multiple 3-3 combos in one program.
though I can understand the frustration, I thought those commentaters loosing their cool that much was too much. at least they should have checked the score sheet before criticize anything and do it logically according to the judging system. I feel sorry for Mao who has nothing to do with the judging has to be treated like a some criminal.
yes, she was so mad that she won with the performance. right after kiss&cry, during an interview and at the awards ceremony, it was so clear that she was so disappointed. Mao is too humble that she couldn't take the outcome. I still believe that she deserved the win after seeing the score sheets tho. it was hard for me to watching her like that. but that's the reason why so many of us love her and support her. I hope she wouldn't feel too bad about this.
I dont care the mistakes, or the scores, I really like the performence, this IS NOT a boring skate, its enjoyable, and has such a good interpretation of the music, you really watch this performence with ease, and enjoy every single part of it, not only the jumps.
GOE? wrong edge(sign “e”)-2 to -3,unclear edge at take-off F or Lz -1 to -2. under-rotated (sign < ) -1 to -2. I think that Suzuki was subtracted.and PCS, asada 64.54.suzuki 62.11. There is not the big difference(Its judged regardless of a jump) .TES suzuki 64.51,TES asada 52.78.The difference 11.73 points.The difference of the short program is 9.35 points. The eurosport in Germany said that Mao was lucky. Exactly.
知恵袋を見ていたら、回答に2012年のNHK杯での海外各局の解説者と実況アナの言葉がありました。私がニコニコ動画から拾ったものもあるようですが、以下引用紹介します。 浅田が勝った？（She has won?）あー、おかしい（ridiculous）ね。 本当におかしいよ。 浅田も信じられないかもしれないが、私たちも信じられない。 私も信じられないよ。酷い（horrible）ね。酷いよ。 100点台にのった4人のうちのひとり（Four of the 100 winner？）になっただけでも、 浅田はすごかった。けど、本当に、これは法を捻じ曲げた茶番だね （ 採点のシステムが正義というシステム自体を侮辱することをやってしまった。 辞書ではtravesty of justice＝ an act of the legal system that is an insult to the system of justice.）。 これはスポーツであって、贔屓（を評価するもの）ではないんだ。 確かに浅田は勝った。2回のワールドチャンピオンとして。 2回のワールドチャンピオン（の実績）、それが今回浅田が勝った唯一の理由だ。 ああ、本当に酷いね。今夜は浅田が2位だったよ。 どうやったら浅田の演技が未来のものよりよかったなんていえるんだい？ あり得ない！ そうだね。考えられないよ。 鈴木はフリーではトップだったけど。でも本当に…本当に…。 本当に「信じられない(Bizarre)」といういい方が、もっと礼儀正しい表現かな。 そうだね. 演技構成点がよかったんだね。あの演技の後で、彼女も信じられないだろう。 そうだね。でも浅田が今日の試合では優勝したんです。だけど、私も信じられない。 以上。たぶん、以後はミラクル・マオは世界中の視聴者から、不正八百長爆上げ採点忖度疑惑選手として見られたのかもしれません。バンクーバー五輪のキムヨナ批判を支持する者は少なくなったかもしれません。 この演技構成点(PCS)は審判の気分次第というか主観で、点数が出る傾向もあるので、ある意味、何らかの理由で忖度されている選手には、信じられないような爆盛得点があるわけです。一般に不公平採点だ、不正採点だと、ファンの皆さんが騒ぐのも仕方ありませんね。見た目クリーンなノーミスの演技ならともかく、誰が見ても大失敗した選手が、見た目クリーンにノーミス演技した選手に、爆盛PCSで得点が上回り優勝する。会場の観客たちの多くは不審に思うし、海外各局の解説者と実況アナは驚愕し酷評する。とくに、この2012年NHK杯と2008年世界選手権の優勝者に対し、世間の目はどのように見るのだろうか。たぶん、選手は何も悪くない、爆上げ不公平採点した審判が悪い、いや、金を出しているスポンサーだ、スケ連だ、ISUだと責任転嫁をしまくるのだろうか。優勝した選手本人も被害者と言えるかもしれないと言うのかもしれませんね。 演技構成点で、8点と9点ばかりの審判がいるし、GOEでも2回転になったジャンプに加点がついているし、一回転になったジャンプや2回転になりエラーまであるルッツにマイナス点を付けない審判がいる。贔屓にされてますね(^_^;) このFSでの未来ちゃんは見た目ノーミスのパーフェクト演技に見えた。フィニッシュした後、ニコリとしており満足した滑りができたことを実感したようだ。得点を知ったとき、暫定2位で納得している様子だった。しかし、最終滑走の真央は失敗ジャンプが目立つ演技をみせながら、未来ちゃんより上位の2位でした。 未来ちゃんの演技動画のコメント欄のほとんどは外国語だけどに、グーグル翻訳で読むと、未来の演技の採点に対する不満が目立ちます。以下引用、「浅田選手と他の選手とでは判定基準が異なるようです」、「浅田真央がみらいの成績よりも高い得点を得てはいけない。このスポーツは恥ずべきです」、「真央がみらいより高い得点を得たとは信じられない。このスポーツはなんて冗談なのでしょう」、以上。 このFSの真央動画のコメント欄で、気になった一言がありました、 「長洲選手の態度は同じアスリートとしていただけないと思いました。点数に不満なら浅田選手ではなくジャッジにその不満をぶつけるべきだったのでは？正直今回の長洲選手にはガッカリしました」というものです。それは一般論としては正解かもしれませんがね。 この動画の視聴上では、未来ちゃんが真央にどのような態度で不満を示したのか確認はできないのですが、まあ最終滑走の真央の演技の有様を見れば、絶対、自分の方が順位が上だと確信するのも無理はないことです。しかも、2位なら初のGPF進出ですからね。落胆は大きいでしょうね、唖然としたかもしれません。ある意味、この試合結果で、真央は未来ちゃんからの信頼を失ったかもしれませんね。しかし、この真央ファンのコメントは無情ですね。観客や実況アナや解説者も信じられない結果なのだから、負けた選手の気持ちも汲んでほしいものです。ある意味、身勝手な真央ファンの本質が見えます。もし、相手が真央ではなく、ヨナに対してなら、逆によくやったと喝采するのでしょうね。実際、真央ファンは審判に不満をぶつけず、キムヨナ批判ばかりしている感じがしますが変ですね。(￣▽￣;)
more like it's coming from their anti-japan sentiment? korean ppl say they feel incredibly competitive with us. and they have been doing the same type of negative campaign not only Mao but to other Japanese athletes such as MLB players or national football team. and like you said, Mao is one of their favorite anti-japan targets because of yuna. they attack Mao just because of that. tho Mao has never ever said or done anything wrong to Yuna and Korea. that's so sad, isn't it?
They actually said very nice things about her skating and recognized her as a top athlete who has all the elements. No, they are not being disrespectful to Mao; they only disagree with the score.
Thank you yuna. but I honestly felt immediate heartfelt tweets and comments from other skaters from all over the world is more touching than Yuna's money. especially after I read the the comment she made in one of korean articles right after 2011 tokyo world was postponed due to the earthquake. she said that it was good thing because she can practice more. btw, I've never seen anyone who insist a praise for donating. you are making me feel like yuna donate just because she wants to be praised...
Most agree that she shouldn't have won. However, I don't think this will become Chan case because Mao is beyond peeved that she won. Chan accepts amazing scores and screams at bad ones. Mao was mad to where Akiko was trying to comfort her for winning! If you looked at the post-interview, she kept on saying how annoyed she was that she won even though the interviewer was trying to get her to say something good about her performance. Thank you, Mao, for being humble - and judges, PLEASE LISTEN!
doesn't matter if they dissed Mao or not, though it's unbelievable to diss any skater's performance if that was true. the point is they admitted that Mao deserved the score according to the judging system. that's the whole point.
I can't believe the result. I don't want Mao to win in such a way. Maybe she feels the same thing. I believe that Mao do the perfect performance in GPF. I'm sure that she will :)
Suzuki did skate her best and that's why she won the free. However, Mao also got the marks that she deserved. She received -GOE for the elements she failed to do, but for every other elements she did she executed them perfectly and got +GOE. Artistry, skating skills and all that were perfect. Don't forget she has level 4 for all spins and steps that worth 3.90. She will, however, need to skate CLEAN in the GPF for sure if she wants the gold there.
if you look at Mao's score sheet, there is nothing you can argue about her points. Her doubled elements are precisely reflected in her score. She won with the >9 point leads in the short programs (not the free). NEW or OLD systerm, Akiko's points and placement in the short would never allowed her to win.
Not very convincing since Philip Hersh himself is a joke. ;p did he say the same thing to yuna kim when she won FS with horrible performance in the 2010 Turin world ? Eurosports forgot that Mao was about 10 points ahead of Akiko in SP.
dont blame Mao, she is not the judge, and i think the judges know what they are doing, they have been doing the job longer than any of us, btw, look at the score of Kim in 10 and 11 world championships.
Total score in current judging system is TES + PCS. Yuna Kim's high PCS score helpled her earn record 228.56 points at the last Olympics. Mao's extremely difficult two 3Axels wasn't enough. Patrick chan always scores high even if he makes mistakes with his jumps. Yuzuru Hanyu's record score in SP is thanks to high PCS, too. I think these commentators should see the score seat by the judges. Like it or not, that's the judging system of late. You must know the "skating" as well as jumping
what an idiot ... Asada landed two 3A in FP but what about 1T and downgraded 3F ??? She only got 5.13 points from these 2 jumps that's why she lost to Yuna. And her skating skills are not enough to beat Yuna as she is way too slow. FYI, Yuna's TES was 78.30, Asada only got 64.68.
lol it's funny. watching all the thumbs ups for good comments are gone in a moment and all the negative comments get thumbs ups instead, you can tell korean yuna bots are swarming around on this vid. korean ppl are so funny haha
We should calculate finely.It is possible to say that its ridiculous immediately, but the calculation of the protocol takes time. It is that a judgment was fair to be important.Neither Suzuki and Asada had the unfairness.A commentator must not say such a thing"ridiculous"
I of course don't know Mao personally but I hope that people will have enough sense not to judge her character by the results of this competition- she has absolutely no control over how the judges score her. None at all. No, of course this program shouldn't have held over Suzuki or Nagasu, and it's clear that she understands that by her surprise at seeing her score. I just hope that no one thinks badly of her-she's a great, great skater- this was a terrible error on the part of the judges.
yeah, I know that they are always nice to Mao. probably that's why I felt weird this time. and I can imagine most of broadcasts reacted the same way, actually i did too. but then again, I still think they should have been more carefull. because if you check the score sheet, although there are some points that need adjustment, there are actually no such "ridiculous" things on Mao's marks. btw, I totally agree with you about racism/nationalism plus Mao bashing. I would call THIS as "ridiculous".
The shock of the popped jumps finally has worn off. What she executed was great, especially the combinations (2A-3T AND 3L-2L-2L). The 3L was the best loop she's done in 3 years. She still should not have won, but now I almost can understand the respectable score she got for this program. The 3 flip was solid too.
I rarely look at this program because i know it was tainted and people shit on her a lot for it but today, looking at it again, the girl got 67 for pcs. We can all agree if anything thats 3 points too low for Mao, a master artist. Now for the technical score, Mao got 52. The girls achieved 42 ALONE in her 2014 record sp, in a program TWICE as long as a sp, with 4 more jumping elements and spins/footwork etc, an extra 10 Points is NOTHING. Granted she popped 4 jumps, but those doubles added together is one triple jump worth. 117 is not an overmarked score, its correct scoring. I might argue her colour of medals but thats another convo
common now really? 2008 worlds is completely different where Mao actually made 1 mistake and pulled everything together.. but no, you're a korean so you are terribly biased against japanese skaters.. shame shame...
Mao's free skate may not have been the best of her ability but the scores she got perfectly reflected that, and overall when one looks at the sp and fs she was the clear winner! this is a gourges performance and her artistry is just evident in her freeskate regardless of her mistakes, and that's why she in many aspects is in a league of her own!
Chicago Tribune's Philip Hersh tweets: "Mao Asada's FS score total joke. I don't care how good the rest of program is, no way u get 8.21 skills with popped triple, 3 doubled ones."
Is this? 1 2Lo 1.80 0.26 0 1 0 1 2 1 1 1 1 2.06 Add＋0.26,At first the maximum and the minimum are cut.Then, it is not listed with failure in the GOE guidelines. Height, flow, force, landing,,,etc The umpire determined that there was not a problem.
She is not a movie star, and these's not ridiculous.The current rule is not an old judgment system. As for the 6.0 judgment system, an appearance was important. In other words it was determined in an impression and subjectivity.But, as for the present times, its different. A score is decided on all elements by the new judging system(Code of Points) Therefore we dont understand a score if we do not calculate in detail .
mao deserve the win mao leads the sp 10 points from akiko and akiko win the free skate Mao got level4 in spins and steps seq. even if she has miss some jumps the performance was amazing why koreans keep buzzing Mao? remember yuna also win 2010 world with ass combination and almost no life performance in the free skate but got 130 so please leave Mao she deserve this win
I'm sorry but Japanese skaters can't act to save their lives. All they're good at are repetition. Practice point jumps and look like sticks in the process. Yuna Kim is in a league of her own from the rest of the skaters in the world by a long shot.
It made no difference if Yuna scored 228 or 218 at Vancouver 2010. She was still the unanimous champion in the eyes of all former world champions, TV commentators and numerous real skating fans around the world. The judges could be so wound up in giving exception GOE but so what ? Only the jealous Japanese kept complaining about it. Really ludicrous !
blah blah blah let's cease the crucifixion currently happening and acknowledge this win for what it is: a by the skin of her teeth win for mao asada made almost entirely possible by the 9.35 point advantage she had over akiko suzuki following the short program. fin.
Ridiculous belief.Everybody were high in the score.(in NHK)This competition is relative. evaluation.190 is not a score standard.There's 200 competitions, too. You should calculate a protocol.Extremely fair.It's true! I always read judgments fairly.
looking and comparing score sheets from other competition, it looks to me that whenever skaters took off on a wrong edge, or underrotated a jump, they get -GOE for TES, but also deduction from PCS (under skating skill, performance/execution). Mao didn't underroated anything, where as Suzuki underroated one jump, and that certainly reflected on their PCS.
suzuki,3t3t=8.2pts mao,3f2lo=7.1pts The toe loop toe loop is not difficult. and Suzuki has become the single Lutz.(short program) On the other hand, Mao was perfect.
117?? What? !!! That's ridiculus.. That!!! is ridiculus... She can't believe it.. We can't believe it..I can't believe it... That's horrible...That!!! is horrible.Really It's a travesty of justice. Does the sport no favour. She won it as twice world champion. That's only reason she won. xxxx. How we can say that performance is better than Mirai? I have no idea..
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The cold hard fact is that she got the season highest PCS even though she only nailed three triples. Irrespective of whatever sacred and holy goal or passion Asada carries, this victory is none other than "a travesty of justice," "a total joke," and "bewilderment" as criticized by world famous figure skating commentators and journalists. Please explain how her quest for a holy grail goes completely in sync with "a travesty of justice" of this ridiculously unfair score.
Can you explain a score of Suzuki? Explain it concretely if you say to there.What is a problem? The adding up of the score is readable in a protocol.plz
I think the win should have gone to Akiko, but I understand why the points were so close. Akiko should have won by 1-2 points possibly and people are acting like she should have won by a landslide. There is no way for the judges to know that it would have came down to less than a tenth of a point difference between them in the end. The math would just be too hard to do in the time they are given.
World famous figure skating journalists in unison announced Asada's score was a "total joke," "a travesty of justice," and "a bewilderment." Find any such comments on Yuna Kim's score for the 2010 worlds.
Maybe, that it is because your computer is slow since the processor is slowing down because of the lack of memory in your computer hard drive. Mao skates with speed and grace so it is your lack of perception to which I think it is your greatest weakness. Mao is fast and she's not a sluggish skater like you THINK you want to see here.
Even Asada Mao seemed to have been surprised that she the judges gave her high scores despite her lackluster performance. NHK Trophy is epitome of skating coruptions filled with dirty money.
I adore Asada, but the commentators nailed it here (as they usually do); this was ridiculous. This reminded me of 2012 Worlds, when Chan won and the audience was shocked (and booed). A cliched swan lake (what's next, Carmen?) free with MAJOR errors beats Akiko's totally original, joyous free skate on skating skills and choreography??? I just hope Akiko doesn't let this discourage her at Worlds, as she's got the best free of all the field, and the talent to match.
Asada has been regressing technically for over 3 years. She won this competition with what..3,4 triples? This is the program that couldn't even compete technically on the novice level, yet she is still being held up. This is just crap i mean, just freaking ridiculous.
why are you people bashing Mao?? oh not again! Korean people... *sigh* did she do something wrong? poor Mao.. please stop the hate comments. OK? people who have complaints should complain to the judges that made this scoring. well, some jump was not good but the overall performance was not so bad. 2A-3T, 3Lo-2Lo-2Lo, that was nice jumps.. Mao, good luck for next GPF
this things happen in figure skating hundreds of times, esp with patrick chan and yuna kim, but when it happened to mao chan why suddenly everyone seems want to commit suicide? blame it to the marines
She won the GPF with only three clean triples. Sadly, that is the current level of the single ladies figure skating. Nobody commits a suicide over such a lowly victory.
Because this is exactly what happened when Kim Yuna won her competition, so many Japanese tried to make her out to be a cheat and accused the Korean skating federation for bribing the judges. It's called KARMA.
＞her mistake jumps,double jumps are recieved lot of goe. The PCS doesnt decrease by the failure of a double jump and the jump.and GOE,too.Everybody are added..But the fall is deducted points.bcuz,it loses a flow and the timing of the performance.
lol...this should be the new rules **Winner of the Long program should get:LP points + SP points + (point missed in the short) + (in case those are not enough + more points to win the competition). This would be a fair rule!!!! a lot of smart people would agree to this.
In an interview right after this, Mao said
"I had a lot of regrets in today's game. Many of my jumps were failures."
"I like this program, so I'm happy that it got a high rating."
"I couldn't show where I've been working hard."
Mao's antagonists are blaming her for this, but this result is a rare case for Mao.
No one is happy with the result. Judge is wrong.
NHK杯は、日本選手の優勝が多いイメージが、ある。
I didn't say "only" I said "every negative comments I checked were koreans" it's not prejudice it's a fact. and you are korean too... like I said in my previous comment, I also surprised at the result at first. but if you see the score sheets of both SP and FS, there are no "ridiculous" marks for Mao. and Mao was ahead of 10 points in SP, Akiko won the FS with 126 points! I think Mirai's score was a bit too low but other than that, it's pretty fair score.
I really love her, she's one of my favourite skaters... But this didn't have the usual mao-feeling... Poor mao... She messed up the jumps but tge step sequence was quite good and i could see mao again
PCS爆上げ…なんでこんなにヤバい演技であんなに嬉しそうに出来たのかな？点出たから？普通アスリートなら点出ても自分に納得できなくてあんなニヤニヤできなくない？
優勝すればニヤニヤします（・∀・）ﾆﾔﾆﾔ
I'm a Mao fan and I agree that Akiko should have won this. Mao should've placed fourth in the freeskate (behind Suzuki, Nagasu and Li) and finished third overall.
At the same time, you guys shouldn't hate on Mao. You should blame the judges for ridiculously overscoring her. Even she was surprised by her victory and wasn't too happy about it.
I swear, judges have gotten so biased nowadays and are always letting the "favorite" win. Look at Skate Canada as well!
wear your glasses!!!! she did not get downgraded or received 2 GOE points for any element. She did one 2L and got .26 goe . The 3Loop in combination recived .5 GOE. Even-though she doubled out on a few jumps but none of her elements were downgraded. In this sport, you are rewarded more for perfecting an easier jumps then failing a hard one. She learned from her years of going for countless 3 axels and multiple 3-3 combos in one program.
though I can understand the frustration, I thought those commentaters loosing their cool that much was too much. at least they should have checked the score sheet before criticize anything and do it logically according to the judging system. I feel sorry for Mao who has nothing to do with the judging has to be treated like a some criminal.
yes, she was so mad that she won with the performance. right after kiss&cry, during an interview and at the awards ceremony, it was so clear that she was so disappointed. Mao is too humble that she couldn't take the outcome. I still believe that she deserved the win after seeing the score sheets tho. it was hard for me to watching her like that. but that's the reason why so many of us love her and support her. I hope she wouldn't feel too bad about this.
Japanese always cast a stone to yuna kim. No one casts doubt on yuna's score except japanese. Know yourselves !!
I dont care the mistakes, or the scores, I really like the performence, this IS NOT a boring skate, its enjoyable, and has such a good interpretation of the music, you really watch this performence with ease, and enjoy every single part of it, not only the jumps.
自分もビックリしたけどちゃんとプロトコル見るとおかしい加点などはないし納得できる点数でしたよ。SPで10点近くも差があったし、決まった2A-3Tは素晴らしい出来だったし、ジャンプ以外の要素でレベルや加点を取れるように努力した結果だと思います。ファンなら浅田選手の努力の結果もちゃんと見てあげて下さい。長洲選手の態度は同じアスリートとしていただけないと思いました。点数に不満なら浅田選手ではなくジャッジにその不満をぶつけるべきだったのでは？正直今回の長洲選手にはガッカリしました。
ガッカリした、と言ってるけど、長洲選手は2位ならファイナル出場できたのだよ。知らなかったのかい。他選手の悔しさや心情も考えてあげたらどうだい。結局、彼女は一度もファイナル出場できずに引退したよ。何度もファイナル出場してる真央とは違うのだよ。海外各局の解説者と実況も言ってるよ、「真央のFSの演技が長洲選手より良かったなんて言えない」とね。いくら何でも、三回転ジャンプが一回転や二回転になったものが4本もある選手が優れているのかい。むしろ、この試合では、真央にガッカリしたよ。それに真央は4位でもファイナル出場できたのさ(-_-;)
バンクーバー五輪での結果で、いまだに一部の真央ファンがキムヨナ批判をしているけど、ヨナは見た目クリーンなノーミス演技で金メダルだった。真央は凡ミス続けた大失敗演技なのに、銀メダル。最終滑走の長洲選手は見た目ノーミスのパーフェクト演技に見えたのに総合4位で台落ち。上位4人の演技を比較してみたけど、3位のロシェットの演技もちょっとだけミスがあるように見えたけど、目に見えた大きな失敗はなかった。一番ひどい演技に見えた真央が銀メダルなのに、いまだに、真央ファンは不満を言ってる。ファンの不満と言えば、ネットで、見かけた北米あたりの書き込みで、2位ロシェット、3位未来とかあったよ。不満に思っているファンはいるよ。ヨナの金メダルは疑われていない。滑走順に恵まれたね、真央が暫定3位か最終滑走だったら、台落ちも不思議でなかったね。ホント、長洲選手は真央のおかげで不運ばかり、不満もあるさ。世界中から真央は信頼されていると思っているのかね。真央の不自然で不可解な優勝と言えば、2008年世界選手権大会。真央ファンなら知ってるでしょ。全世界のフィギュア専門の記者による「歴代最低のワールド女王は誰?」のアンケートで、ダントツの票を集めて、2008年の浅田真央が選出されたいわくつきの大会。中野さんのファンの間では、開催都市の名前から「ヨーテボリの悲劇」と言われて語り継がれてるね。以下のこの言葉、
『プロトコル見るとおかしい加点などはないし納得できる点数』
『2A-3Tは素晴らしい出来』
この言葉まるで、キムヨナ批判を弁護しているイメージだね。海外各局の解説者と実況が手厳しい酷評をしたということは、今後、真央に対しての同情などなくなるということだよ。世界の目が、不正八百長裏工作疑惑選手としてみるようになったということだね。バンクーバー五輪でのキムヨナ批判に同情してくれている者はいないのではないかな。(-_-;)
この『点数に不満なら浅田選手ではなくジャッジにその不満をぶつけるべき』は、理想だけど、現場の選手の心情考えたら不満はあるだろうね。FS2位真央とFS3位未来の出来を納得できるの ? それに真央の演技にはスピード感も欠けていたように思った。はっきりいって、真央の努力を強調してるけど、五輪銀メダルで元世界女王がジャンプを基礎から見直すなんて言ってること自体おかしいのだよ。普通の上位選手は、3Aこそ跳べないけど、他の5種類のジャンプは上手に跳べる。この試合もそうだけど、真央は低難度のサルコウがまるであてにならない、というか、ループとフリップ以外に何らかの不安要素を抱えている。今までは、3Aに挑戦しています、とか言って誤魔化せたけど、この時のGPシリーズは3Aに挑戦していない。普通の選手と同じ目で見られるということさ。だからこそ、他の選手も真央の無様な演技に不満や不信感が出てくるのさ。選手はみんな努力しているよ。真央みたいに審判から優遇されてないだけだよ。あの突出したダントツ1位の演技構成点を見れば分かるでしょ。真央はスピンやステップなどのスケーティング技術が凄いと強調するけど、欧米の選手たちのアレを見て、どう思うかね。
『正直今回の長洲選手にはガッカリしました』というコメントが気になり、長々と書きました。この大会に、長洲選手がどんな気持ちで臨んでいたか、考えてみなかったのかな。ここまで、不可解な結果に終われば誰でも不満はでるものですよ。(・・;)
真央ファンが嫌うキムヨナ擁護の際のコメントに感じるのは何故(;・∀・)
2回転ジャンプに加点が付いてるの ?
貴方はスケオタそれともマオタ?
Best loop in 2 years, since 2010 worlds.
Poor Akiko...
the reaction of audience says all about this awkward situation...
GOE? wrong edge(sign “e”)-2 to -3,unclear edge at take-off F or Lz -1 to -2.
under-rotated (sign < ) -1 to -2. I think that Suzuki was subtracted.and PCS,
asada 64.54.suzuki 62.11. There is not the big difference(Its judged regardless of a jump) .TES suzuki 64.51,TES asada 52.78.The difference 11.73 points.The difference of the short program is 9.35 points. The eurosport in Germany said that Mao was lucky. Exactly.
これは他動画に書いたコメントです。他動画では承認制のため公開されず非表示になっていました。長文になりますが、投稿したいと思います。
ミラクル・マオの不自然な優勝かつ不公平な採点について、もう一つ取り上げたいと思います。2012年NHK杯です。この大会は、ネットなどを見ても、真央の優勝に関しては微妙な感想ですね。普通なら、これでは優勝どころか表彰台さえも危ういと思われたみたい。ところが0.05点差で優勝。優勝が決まった瞬間、会場は微妙な空気に包まれたそうです。観客は正直ですね。FS演技は上位4人の中で最低の技術点のくせに、突出した演技構成点。せめて、見た目ノーミスの演技ならともかくボロボロの失敗演技。演技構成点は審判の主観が反映されやすい得点ですが、ここまで演技自体がひどくて優勝した選手は珍しいのではないでしょうか。これこそ不正を疑われても不思議はないのですけどね。ミラクル・マオのファンは、もしヨナなら、お決まりの不正八百長裏工作とか言って騒ぐでしょうが、ミラクル・マオに対しては何も疑わず大喜びですかね。ミラクル・マオは優勝回数の多さを誇れるようですが、2008年世界選手権といい、ミラクル・マオの優勝にも不可解なものがあります。私としては、子君ちゃんが台乗りできなかったことが悔しいですけどね。結局、子君ちゃんはGPシリーズの表彰台は無縁で終わりました。未来ちゃんも2位なら初のGPファイナル出場がありました。そして、未来ちゃんはGPファイナルは無縁で終わりました。また、この時、台乗りしてれば、未来ちゃんと子君ちゃんの二人の表彰台姿が見れたのに、残念。
浅田真央 鈴木明子 長洲未来 李子君
技術点 52.78 64.51 56.36 59.35
演技構成点 64.54 62.11 59.14 55.14
鈴木さんは、見た目クリーンで見事パーフェクト演技にみえました。そして演技後、ガッツポーズ。万雷の拍手を受けていました。最終滑走はミラクル・マオでしたが、三回転ジャンプがぬけて一回転や二回転になりました。具体的には、一回転になったのは3Sの1本。二回転になったのは3Lo ,3Lz, 3Fの3本。スピード感も足りないような気がしました。これでは不正審判八百長裏工作のインチキ選手と言われても仕方ないと思います。バンクーバー五輪のヨナは見た目クリーンなノーミス演技をして優勝しましたが、NHK杯のミラクル・マオは誰もが表彰台すら無理と感じた失敗だらけの下手くそ演技なのに、優勝しました。2位は鈴木明子さんですが、誰もが鈴木さんの優勝を信じて疑いませんでした。ニコニコ動画で視聴した外国の翻訳解説付き動画で印象に残った解説者たちの酷評ぶりを以下引用紹介します。
『最後の組の日本女性二人の演技は本当に対照的でした』
『表彰台に上がることはちょっと難しいと思います』
『彼女が勝った？？』
『ありえない』
『これは本当に可笑しなことです』
『彼女自身も信じれないし、私たちも信じられない』
『ひどいことです』
『でも…あ、これ本当のこと？』
『正義が笑いものに転落しました』
『恥ずかしいことです』
『今夜2位ですけど、あの演技がどうして未来より上なのかまったく理解できません』
(FS1位鈴木 FS2位真央 FS3位長洲未来)
『あ…これは本当に、これは奇怪なことです』
『観客も信じられないでしょう』
以上、はっきり言って、まさに誰もがあきれ返った優勝だったね。技術点は上位4人の中で最低、演技構成点は突出してダントツのトップ。まあ、下手くそ演技のミラクル・マオを見て、人情深い審判たちが不憫に思い、沢山の得点をあげたんでしょうね。この映像を見て世界中の人たちは、どんな印象を持ったのだろうね。
鈴木さんはGPシリーズの優勝は二回しかないよね。全く優勝したことのない選手から見たら凄いことだろうけどね。その後、2位とかはあるけど。国別対抗を除けば、優勝は2013年の全日本のみ。優勝の栄光に彩られたミラクル・マオには及ばないのは仕方ないだろうけどね。この大会結果、納得できるかな、ミラクル・マオがノーミス優勝なら納得できるだろうけど。人の胸中は分かりませんね。私なら納得できないけどね。
知恵袋を見ていたら、回答に2012年のNHK杯での海外各局の解説者と実況アナの言葉がありました。私がニコニコ動画から拾ったものもあるようですが、以下引用紹介します。
浅田が勝った？（She has won?）あー、おかしい（ridiculous）ね。
本当におかしいよ。
浅田も信じられないかもしれないが、私たちも信じられない。
私も信じられないよ。酷い（horrible）ね。酷いよ。
100点台にのった4人のうちのひとり（Four of the 100 winner？）になっただけでも、
浅田はすごかった。けど、本当に、これは法を捻じ曲げた茶番だね
（ 採点のシステムが正義というシステム自体を侮辱することをやってしまった。
辞書ではtravesty of justice＝ an act of the legal system that is an insult to the system of justice.）。
これはスポーツであって、贔屓（を評価するもの）ではないんだ。
確かに浅田は勝った。2回のワールドチャンピオンとして。
2回のワールドチャンピオン（の実績）、それが今回浅田が勝った唯一の理由だ。 ああ、本当に酷いね。今夜は浅田が2位だったよ。
どうやったら浅田の演技が未来のものよりよかったなんていえるんだい？
あり得ない！ そうだね。考えられないよ。
鈴木はフリーではトップだったけど。でも本当に…本当に…。
本当に「信じられない(Bizarre)」といういい方が、もっと礼儀正しい表現かな。
そうだね.
演技構成点がよかったんだね。あの演技の後で、彼女も信じられないだろう。
そうだね。でも浅田が今日の試合では優勝したんです。だけど、私も信じられない。
以上。たぶん、以後はミラクル・マオは世界中の視聴者から、不正八百長爆上げ採点忖度疑惑選手として見られたのかもしれません。バンクーバー五輪のキムヨナ批判を支持する者は少なくなったかもしれません。
この演技構成点(PCS)は審判の気分次第というか主観で、点数が出る傾向もあるので、ある意味、何らかの理由で忖度されている選手には、信じられないような爆盛得点があるわけです。一般に不公平採点だ、不正採点だと、ファンの皆さんが騒ぐのも仕方ありませんね。見た目クリーンなノーミスの演技ならともかく、誰が見ても大失敗した選手が、見た目クリーンにノーミス演技した選手に、爆盛PCSで得点が上回り優勝する。会場の観客たちの多くは不審に思うし、海外各局の解説者と実況アナは驚愕し酷評する。とくに、この2012年NHK杯と2008年世界選手権の優勝者に対し、世間の目はどのように見るのだろうか。たぶん、選手は何も悪くない、爆上げ不公平採点した審判が悪い、いや、金を出しているスポンサーだ、スケ連だ、ISUだと責任転嫁をしまくるのだろうか。優勝した選手本人も被害者と言えるかもしれないと言うのかもしれませんね。
演技構成点で、8点と9点ばかりの審判がいるし、GOEでも2回転になったジャンプに加点がついているし、一回転になったジャンプや2回転になりエラーまであるルッツにマイナス点を付けない審判がいる。贔屓にされてますね(^_^;)
このFSでの未来ちゃんは見た目ノーミスのパーフェクト演技に見えた。フィニッシュした後、ニコリとしており満足した滑りができたことを実感したようだ。得点を知ったとき、暫定2位で納得している様子だった。しかし、最終滑走の真央は失敗ジャンプが目立つ演技をみせながら、未来ちゃんより上位の2位でした。
未来ちゃんの演技動画のコメント欄のほとんどは外国語だけどに、グーグル翻訳で読むと、未来の演技の採点に対する不満が目立ちます。以下引用、「浅田選手と他の選手とでは判定基準が異なるようです」、「浅田真央がみらいの成績よりも高い得点を得てはいけない。このスポーツは恥ずべきです」、「真央がみらいより高い得点を得たとは信じられない。このスポーツはなんて冗談なのでしょう」、以上。
このFSの真央動画のコメント欄で、気になった一言がありました、
「長洲選手の態度は同じアスリートとしていただけないと思いました。点数に不満なら浅田選手ではなくジャッジにその不満をぶつけるべきだったのでは？正直今回の長洲選手にはガッカリしました」というものです。それは一般論としては正解かもしれませんがね。
この動画の視聴上では、未来ちゃんが真央にどのような態度で不満を示したのか確認はできないのですが、まあ最終滑走の真央の演技の有様を見れば、絶対、自分の方が順位が上だと確信するのも無理はないことです。しかも、2位なら初のGPF進出ですからね。落胆は大きいでしょうね、唖然としたかもしれません。ある意味、この試合結果で、真央は未来ちゃんからの信頼を失ったかもしれませんね。しかし、この真央ファンのコメントは無情ですね。観客や実況アナや解説者も信じられない結果なのだから、負けた選手の気持ちも汲んでほしいものです。ある意味、身勝手な真央ファンの本質が見えます。もし、相手が真央ではなく、ヨナに対してなら、逆によくやったと喝采するのでしょうね。実際、真央ファンは審判に不満をぶつけず、キムヨナ批判ばかりしている感じがしますが変ですね。(￣▽￣;)
more like it's coming from their anti-japan sentiment? korean ppl say they feel incredibly competitive with us. and they have been doing the same type of negative campaign not only Mao but to other Japanese athletes such as MLB players or national football team. and like you said, Mao is one of their favorite anti-japan targets because of yuna. they attack Mao just because of that. tho Mao has never ever said or done anything wrong to Yuna and Korea. that's so sad, isn't it?
Is Mao the only one skater in the world who got a 2point GOE on a popped 2 jump from a judge? I don't think so.
They actually said very nice things about her skating and recognized her as a top athlete who has all the elements. No, they are not being disrespectful to Mao; they only disagree with the score.
안늦었음 스즈키아키코 금메달 주셈 ㅈㄴ 망오연기에 구성점수가 64점?...?.?...? 밴쿠버 아사다마오 실수 2번(토룹 팝, 트플 다운) 64점의 구성
여기는 존나 망한거에 64점 ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ. ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ. ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ존나웃기다 스즈키아키코 ㄹㅇ 불쌍;; 이외에도 좆본특유의 영웅만들기에희생된 안도미키 같은애들도 불쌍함.. 연습방해한거보면 싫긴한데 마오년한테 깔리는거보면 불쌍ㅉ...
Thank you yuna. but I honestly felt immediate heartfelt tweets and comments from other skaters from all over the world is more touching than Yuna's money. especially after I read the the comment she made in one of korean articles right after 2011 tokyo world was postponed due to the earthquake. she said that it was good thing because she can practice more. btw, I've never seen anyone who insist a praise for donating. you are making me feel like yuna donate just because she wants to be praised...
Most agree that she shouldn't have won. However, I don't think this will become Chan case because Mao is beyond peeved that she won. Chan accepts amazing scores and screams at bad ones. Mao was mad to where Akiko was trying to comfort her for winning! If you looked at the post-interview, she kept on saying how annoyed she was that she won even though the interviewer was trying to get her to say something good about her performance. Thank you, Mao, for being humble - and judges, PLEASE LISTEN!
doesn't matter if they dissed Mao or not, though it's unbelievable to diss any skater's performance if that was true. the point is they admitted that Mao deserved the score according to the judging system. that's the whole point.
I can't believe the result.
I don't want Mao to win in such a way.
Maybe she feels the same thing.
I believe that Mao do the perfect performance in GPF.
I'm sure that she will :)
Suzuki did skate her best and that's why she won the free. However, Mao also got the marks that she deserved. She received -GOE for the elements she failed to do, but for every other elements she did she executed them perfectly and got +GOE. Artistry, skating skills and all that were perfect. Don't forget she has level 4 for all spins and steps that worth 3.90. She will, however, need to skate CLEAN in the GPF for sure if she wants the gold there.
Asada Money
What's that?
本人だって驚いてたし何を叩いてるんですか
去年は鈴木選手が僅差で逃げ切ったし逆だったですよね
プロトコル見てもそんなに変なところはないし
浅田選手もいつもと同じくらいのＰＣＳもらっただけ
文句言うならＩＳＵに言えばいいのに
長洲選手より上なのが不自然なのさ(^▽^;)
if you look at Mao's score sheet, there is nothing you can argue about her points. Her doubled elements are precisely reflected in her score. She won with the >9 point leads in the short programs (not the free). NEW or OLD systerm, Akiko's points and placement in the short would never allowed her to win.
Not very convincing since Philip Hersh himself is a joke. ;p did he say the same thing to yuna kim when she won FS with horrible performance in the 2010 Turin world ? Eurosports forgot that Mao was about 10 points ahead of Akiko in SP.
>A judge gave her the full 2 GOE on the doubled 3Lo.? The season greatest joke
1 2Lo 1.80 0.26 0 1 0 1 2 1 1 1 1 2.06
Its 0.26 points GOE.
dont blame Mao, she is not the judge, and i think the judges know what they are doing, they have been doing the job longer than any of us, btw, look at the score of Kim in 10 and 11 world championships.
Total score in current judging system is TES + PCS. Yuna Kim's high PCS score helpled her
earn record 228.56 points at the last Olympics. Mao's extremely difficult two 3Axels wasn't enough. Patrick chan always scores high even if he makes mistakes with his jumps. Yuzuru Hanyu's record score in SP is thanks to high PCS, too.
I think these commentators should see the score seat by the judges.
Like it or not, that's the judging system of late. You must know the "skating" as well as jumping
what an idiot ... Asada landed two 3A in FP but what about 1T and downgraded 3F ??? She only got 5.13 points from these 2 jumps that's why she lost to Yuna. And her skating skills are not enough to beat Yuna as she is way too slow. FYI, Yuna's TES was 78.30, Asada only got 64.68.
lol it's funny. watching all the thumbs ups for good comments are gone in a moment and all the negative comments get thumbs ups instead, you can tell korean yuna bots are swarming around on this vid. korean ppl are so funny haha
We should calculate finely.It is possible to say that its ridiculous immediately, but the calculation of the protocol takes time. It is that a judgment was fair to be important.Neither Suzuki and Asada had the unfairness.A commentator must not say such a thing"ridiculous"
We should regard a free program, both results as short program.I thought that the ISU made an extremely fair decision.
I of course don't know Mao personally but I hope that people will have enough sense not to judge her character by the results of this competition- she has absolutely no control over how the judges score her. None at all. No, of course this program shouldn't have held over Suzuki or Nagasu, and it's clear that she understands that by her surprise at seeing her score. I just hope that no one thinks badly of her-she's a great, great skater- this was a terrible error on the part of the judges.
yeah, I know that they are always nice to Mao. probably that's why I felt weird this time. and I can imagine most of broadcasts reacted the same way, actually i did too. but then again, I still think they should have been more carefull. because if you check the score sheet, although there are some points that need adjustment, there are actually no such "ridiculous" things on Mao's marks. btw, I totally agree with you about racism/nationalism plus Mao bashing. I would call THIS as "ridiculous".
キム・ヨナのこと言えないね。(^-^)
The shock of the popped jumps finally has worn off. What she executed was great, especially the combinations (2A-3T AND 3L-2L-2L). The 3L was the best loop she's done in 3 years. She still should not have won, but now I almost can understand the respectable score she got for this program. The 3 flip was solid too.
I rarely look at this program because i know it was tainted and people shit on her a lot for it but today, looking at it again, the girl got 67 for pcs. We can all agree if anything thats 3 points too low for Mao, a master artist. Now for the technical score, Mao got 52. The girls achieved 42 ALONE in her 2014 record sp, in a program TWICE as long as a sp, with 4 more jumping elements and spins/footwork etc, an extra 10 Points is NOTHING. Granted she popped 4 jumps, but those doubles added together is one triple jump worth. 117 is not an overmarked score, its correct scoring. I might argue her colour of medals but thats another convo
common now really? 2008 worlds is completely different where Mao actually made 1 mistake and pulled everything together.. but no, you're a korean so you are terribly biased against japanese skaters.. shame shame...
Mao's free skate may not have been the best of her ability but the scores she got perfectly reflected that, and overall when one looks at the sp and fs she was the clear winner! this is a gourges performance and her artistry is just evident in her freeskate regardless of her mistakes, and that's why she in many aspects is in a league of her own!
Chicago Tribune's Philip Hersh tweets:
"Mao Asada's FS score total joke. I don't care how good the rest of program is, no way u get 8.21 skills with popped triple, 3 doubled ones."
Is this?
1 2Lo 1.80 0.26 0 1 0 1 2 1 1 1 1 2.06
Add＋0.26,At first the maximum and the minimum are cut.Then, it is not listed with failure in the GOE guidelines. Height, flow, force, landing,,,etc The umpire determined that there was not a problem.
Stupid persons may push dislike button. Like berryzmusume99.
She is not a movie star, and these's not ridiculous.The current rule is not an old judgment system.
As for the 6.0 judgment system, an appearance was important.
In other words it was determined in an impression and subjectivity.But, as for the present times, its different. A score is decided on all elements by the new judging system(Code of Points)
Therefore we dont understand a score if we do not calculate in detail .
mao deserve the win mao leads the sp 10 points from akiko and akiko win the free skate Mao got level4 in spins and steps seq. even if she has miss some jumps the performance was amazing why koreans keep buzzing Mao? remember yuna also win 2010 world with ass combination and almost no life performance in the free skate but got 130 so please leave Mao she deserve this win
だから何処が？具体的におかしいところを指摘してみて。今日、日曜だしすべて説明しよう。
PCSはJO～CoC～NHKとそんな大きな変動ないでしょう？特に公式戦のCoCとNHKは同じ値を示してるじゃない。PCSはジャンプの失敗とは関係なく演技構成なんだし
演技面で何か問題があったの？
見た目失敗ジャンプして演技構成点爆盛云々での理由付けは、真央ファンがキムヨナ批判するとき困るのでは。(^▽^;)
I'm sorry but Japanese skaters can't act to save their lives. All they're good at are repetition. Practice point jumps and look like sticks in the process. Yuna Kim is in a league of her own from the rest of the skaters in the world by a long shot.
It made no difference if Yuna scored 228 or 218 at Vancouver 2010. She was still the unanimous champion in the eyes of all former world champions, TV commentators and numerous real skating fans around the world. The judges could be so wound up in giving exception GOE but so what ? Only the jealous Japanese kept complaining about it. Really ludicrous !
blah blah blah let's cease the crucifixion currently happening and acknowledge this win for what it is: a by the skin of her teeth win for mao asada made almost entirely possible by the 9.35 point advantage she had over akiko suzuki following the short program.
fin.
Ridiculous belief.Everybody were high in the score.(in NHK)This competition is relative. evaluation.190 is not a score standard.There's 200 competitions, too. You should calculate a protocol.Extremely fair.It's true! I always read judgments fairly.
This pretty much shows how Japanese figure works. And u know, only Japanese blame Yuna Kim's score being so high while others praise Yuna lolz
ショートでの貯金、フリーではジャンプのミスが続いたけど、スピンとステップで全てレベル4。難易度の高いコンビネーションジャンプは二つとも成功、技術点はジャンプの失敗の分は正当な引かれ方をしている。
その代わりに64点という高い芸術点でカバー。結果117点。合計185点。
１位で何もおかしくない。
そうです。審判の採点は絶対ですから当然でしょう。そう考えると、バンクーバー五輪での採点にいまだ不服を言ってる一部の真央ファンのお頭は異常ですね(^_^;)
looking and comparing score sheets from other competition, it looks to me that whenever skaters took off on a wrong edge, or underrotated a jump, they get -GOE for TES, but also deduction from PCS (under skating skill, performance/execution). Mao didn't underroated anything, where as Suzuki underroated one jump, and that certainly reflected on their PCS.
suzuki,3t3t=8.2pts
mao,3f2lo=7.1pts
The toe loop toe loop is not difficult. and Suzuki has become the single Lutz.(short program) On the other hand, Mao was perfect.
2Lo,2Lz(e),1S,2F ....... she won.
117?? What? !!! That's ridiculus.. That!!! is ridiculus... She can't believe it.. We can't believe it..I can't believe it... That's horrible...That!!! is horrible.Really It's a travesty of justice. Does the sport no favour. She won it as twice world champion. That's only reason she won. xxxx. How we can say that performance is better than Mirai? I have no idea..
No money.Pasquale Camerlengo,Tatiana Tarasova,Lori Nicol
A score appears by the effort of the superior artist like them and players.
真央ファンの皆さんへ
隣国の真央ちゃんへの誹謗中傷があまりにも酷いのでCBCの記事を貼りましたが、すぐにスパム攻撃されて見えなくなってしまいます。もし消えていたら再コピペしてもらえると助かります。
しかし、海外各局の解説者と実況の批判が凄かったから、世界中の人が、真央は不正八百長爆上げ採点裏工作で優勝した忖度選手として認識したと思います。もはや、正義を語る資格はないと判断されていると思います。^_^;
Let's see, Referee is Korean..
Referee：Ms. Chihee RHEE(KOR)
Technical Controller：Ms. Deborah NOYES
Technical Specialist：Ms. Zsofia KULCZAR
Assistant Technical Specialist：Ms. Olga MARKOVA
Judge No.1：Ms. Olga KOZHEMIAKINA(RUS)
Judge No.2：Ms. Hailan JIANG(CHN)
Judge No.3：Ms. Mami MAEDA(JPN)
Judge No.4：Ms. Marketa HORKLOVA(CZE)
Judge No.5：Ms. Salome CHIGOGIDZE(GEO)
Judge No.6：Ms. Janice HUNTER(CAN)
Judge No.7：Mr. Doug WILLIAMS(USA)
Judge No.8：Ms. Tricia MORITZ(AUS)
Judge No.9：Ms. Saioa SANCHO(ESP)
2Lo,2Lz,1S,2F --> She won!. wow!
ISU : Show me the money.
What do you mean?
@@Google-U What "did" I mean 7 years ago? I don't know. Maybe it was about stolen medal or something. Ignore it.
@@core047
I'm sorry. I was just curious. I'll ignore it.
@@Google-U Don’t need to be sorry. FYI “show me the money” is a cheat commend(infinite resource) used in starcraft which was the most famous game in ROK.
@@core047
So it was!
Apart from that, I also learned that the movie "Jerry Maguire" has a famous line "Show me the money".
Sorry for the inconvenience. Have a nice day. :)
The cold hard fact is that she got the season highest PCS even though she only nailed three triples. Irrespective of whatever sacred and holy goal or passion Asada carries, this victory is none other than "a travesty of justice," "a total joke," and "bewilderment" as criticized by world famous figure skating commentators and journalists. Please explain how her quest for a holy grail goes completely in sync with "a travesty of justice" of this ridiculously unfair score.
Maybe japan spent DIRTY MONEY.
DIRTY GAME, DIRTY PLAYER.
asada mao is an AMATEUR FOREVER !!!
Without money she CANNOT PLAY.
HAHAHAHAHA..
jeez.....it was held in japan, i guess that is why she has won?
but yes! you have to critize the judges, they are wrong, not mao.
Can you explain a score of Suzuki? Explain it concretely if you say to there.What is a problem?
The adding up of the score is readable in a protocol.plz
I'm rubber, you're glue.
If I'm Japanese, I would watch this video before I start complaining about other skaters' scores.
いままでいままで
スケートはジャンプがすべてですか？ステップ、表現力、スピン、そして、SPの出来があっての表彰台でしょ？なぜ、八百長とかインチキとか言えるのでしょうか？彼女の表現力は素晴らしかった。
それを言うと、真央ファンのキムヨナ批判はどうなんだ、ということになります。海外各局の解説者と実況の批判の声を無視するのですか。多くの人は、見た目が大切です。(^_^;)
異常な爆上げ演技構成点、あの表現力が長洲選手より上とは思えないけどね。(-_-;)
I think the win should have gone to Akiko, but I understand why the points were so close. Akiko should have won by 1-2 points possibly and people are acting like she should have won by a landslide. There is no way for the judges to know that it would have came down to less than a tenth of a point difference between them in the end. The math would just be too hard to do in the time they are given.
World famous figure skating journalists in unison announced Asada's score was a "total joke," "a travesty of justice," and "a bewilderment." Find any such comments on Yuna Kim's score for the 2010 worlds.
Maybe, that it is because your computer is slow since the processor is slowing down because of the lack of memory in your computer hard drive. Mao skates with speed and grace so it is your lack of perception to which I think it is your greatest weakness. Mao is fast and she's not a sluggish skater like you THINK you want to see here.
Even Asada Mao seemed to have been surprised that she the judges gave her high scores despite her lackluster performance. NHK Trophy is epitome of skating coruptions filled with dirty money.
mao program is beautiful
im your fan
I adore Asada, but the commentators nailed it here (as they usually do); this was ridiculous. This reminded me of 2012 Worlds, when Chan won and the audience was shocked (and booed). A cliched swan lake (what's next, Carmen?) free with MAJOR errors beats Akiko's totally original, joyous free skate on skating skills and choreography??? I just hope Akiko doesn't let this discourage her at Worlds, as she's got the best free of all the field, and the talent to match.
Mao, don't bully me like this. I almost have a heart attack. please don't do this again in GPF T^T
Asada has been regressing technically for over 3 years. She won this competition with what..3,4 triples? This is the program that couldn't even compete technically on the novice level, yet she is still being held up. This is just crap i mean, just freaking ridiculous.
lor????=lol WTF? 1 inches?=1 inch pps???=ppl need I say more?bwahahahaha
why are you people bashing Mao?? oh not again! Korean people... *sigh*
did she do something wrong? poor Mao.. please stop the hate comments.
OK? people who have complaints should complain to the judges that made this scoring.
well, some jump was not good but the overall performance was not so bad.
2A-3T, 3Lo-2Lo-2Lo, that was nice jumps..
Mao, good luck for next GPF
2A-3TL, 3F,,3L-2L-2L,spins are wonderful, it is ashame that Mao did not hold there
this things happen in figure skating hundreds of times, esp with patrick chan and yuna kim, but when it happened to mao chan why suddenly everyone seems want to commit suicide? blame it to the marines
Poor Akiko.... T^T
She can't believe it and We can't believe it.
She won the GPF with only three clean triples. Sadly, that is the current level of the single ladies figure skating. Nobody commits a suicide over such a lowly victory.
this is shocking.
Because this is exactly what happened when Kim Yuna won her competition, so many Japanese tried to make her out to be a cheat and accused the Korean skating federation for bribing the judges. It's called KARMA.
Someone claims to be Korean here, but when I click their ID, they are Japanese!
＞her mistake jumps,double jumps are recieved lot of goe.
The PCS doesnt decrease by the failure of a double jump and the jump.and GOE,too.Everybody are added..But the fall is deducted points.bcuz,it loses a flow and the timing of the performance.
lol...this should be the new rules **Winner of the Long program should get:LP points + SP points + (point missed in the short) + (in case those are not enough + more points to win the competition). This would be a fair rule!!!! a lot of smart people would agree to this.
The same to you who have a plethora of time reading & stalking one TH-cam user's comments.
스즈키는 점수 보고 어느정도 예상은 한듯 의미심장한 웃음을 짓고..아사다는 편히 웃지도 못하는..에휴..괜히 선수들만 민망한 상황이구만...위에서 잘 좀 했으면...개인적으로 2013 WC에서 무라카미도 아까웠는뎅..
I think it's because Mao and Korea's Kim Yuna competeswith each other
Where is Justice? FS should be expeled from OLYMPICS... Shame on MAU
actually you koreans are bashing yuna too by blaming Mao's result here. because yuna herself have been accused by the same reason before.
Just take a look at your own country's dirty videos about Yuna Kim on TH-cam. And then you will know how gentle these comments are.
What a shame, Asada..