Mora Kansbol Compared to 2000 and Bushcraft Forest - the knife I have been waiting for!
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- The new Mora Kansbol is the knife we have been waiting for. Compared to the 2000, which is 25 years old this year, and the Bushcraft Forest, which does not come with a 90 degree spine(!), the Kansbol has the blade and the spine I have been wanting.
I'm swedish, living in Norway. Batoning is a very common occurence here. I, personally, always carry an axe instead. I learned of batoning at a very early age, but more from a survival POV. If you have an alternative, don't do it. Also, we have lighters now. I respect the urge to want to light your own fire, But the flint-and-steel approach is too much for me.
LOL! Yes, I know we have lighters, but sometimes they break or get soaked and don't work. I carry Bics in all of my gear, but I want to be able to light a fire without it if I need to.
Batoning or splitting wood with a knife was a requirement for an outdoor knife up until the turn of the century. We shortly forgot it and picked it back up. Any wood worker would baton or hammer his knife through a work piece with a rubber or wooden maul.
I have the Bushcraft forest. I just put a 90 degree spine on it with my files. It strikes a fero rod great now. I also like the little choil on the bushcraft forest handle alot.
I agree, the handle on the Bushcraft Forest is outstanding. Thanks for watching John Chastain!
Hello sir, watched this video about five times and could understand all the words that you said after putting my earpiece.I am wondering which would be better the kansbol or the 2000.Both look quite similar but the 2000 cost 5 bucks less,if they are the same knife' blades' I would like to go for the 2000.What do you say? Also forgot to mention, I never baton in the forest,not necessary but need to chop or cut small branches or trees of two inches thick,can these two knives handle it?
Great questions! If the blade style is what is most important the 2000 will get the job done. I like the Kansbol's handle better than the 2000, but I have no complaints with the 2000's handle. I would probably not do any serious chopping with either of these knives, they are too light in my opinion.
Say Heah Tackett , I made a great Lite Trio udsing my Mora 2000 and teaming it up with my Mora Hatchet and I added my Bacho Lsplander to make my great Trio. I use it for my mild weather Afternoon Delights, a hot cup of coffee and a bajed potato beats the scenery at Mc Dee's any day. ,, .
That does sound like a perfect trio, Paulie. I haven't used the Mora hatchet yet, mostly because my Fiskars hatchet is doing great after many years of faithful service.
Oh sure, Fiskars are very good, But I like matching my tool's, Silly huh ? But that's the way Uh Huh, Uh Huh I like it. Thanx. ,, .
Oh I also wanted to check out the Boron Steel on the Mora Hatchet. ,, .
I also posted the combo in my Google Plus, if you care to see it, search Paulie 4X it'd towards the bottom. ,, .
You did say you carry an axe, yet you want the 90° on all knives. Just use the axe.
Of course, I can use the axe, but the knife is easier to wield, don't you agree?
I do agree that the knife is easier to wield. I just don't move the axe, I move the fire steel and just hold the axe.
@@jock2858 That makes sense to me.
Was there any narration or audible explanation about these knives in this video? I heard a faint mumbling in the background & the sound of the knives being pulled from their sheaths & hitting the table was loud & clear. Unfortunate because along with many other Mora knives including the popular Bushcraft Black, I have the 2000 & was wondering if the Kansbol was different enough or much better than the 2000 to consider it as well.
I'm not sure why you can't hear it properly. It sounds fine to me. Lots of folks have seen (and heard) this video without any issues. Could it be a problem with your sound card?
Don't know. The intro music in the first 15 seconds is plenty loud as are the noises you make removing the knives from their sheaths & setting them on the table. All I can hear of your monologue is a very faint background mumbling. Perhaps i have selective hearing. Oh well.
Could you honestly tell me if the newer Kansbol is really all that different or better than the 2000. I have the sickness & own far too many knives including several Moras. Any info is appreciated.
I'm sorry you are having a hard time hearing it. Bottom line: I dig the Kansbol. I like my 2000 but the Kansbol came with a 90 degree spine, and both knives are in the same price range. I guess it is just a matter of preference. If you can live without a 90 degree spine the 2000 should serve you just as well as the Kansbol. I like the Kansbol grip as well, but it would be hard to draw any significant difference between it and the 2000 other than the lanyard hole. Is it MUCH better than the 2000? Debatable, I think.
Thanks very much for your reply & the info. I was happy to come across a comparison. The Bushcraft Forest looks interesting too. I will no doubt in time, cave to my illness & add both the Kansbol & Forest to my other Mora knives.
I'm sure the sound issue is at my end although I've been viewing & listening to other videos with no problems for the past hour. Cheers.
I'll purchase a Mora Kansbol and check it out as a hunting and camping knife.Stay safe.
I like the Kansbol better for skinning and processing, especially on small game like squirrels and rabbits. The Garberg is still a great camping knife and I really like that I can put a lanyard on it. I wish Mora would have more lanyard options on their knives.
Great review but next time please record it in landscape... ;-)
Bedankt Arjaan! Ik gebruik mijn telefoon. Misschien moet ik een echte camera te gebruiken.
Thanks Arjaan! I have been using my phone. I guess I need to start using a real camera. :)
Huh? I can't hear you. Well, just barely and that's with headphones.
You probably voted for trump
I do my best to keep politics out of this channel. But, I'll play your game. You probably play with Japanese anime cards in your mommy's house.
Why does every knife need a 90° spine, It is pure punishment on the ole thumbs, my Garberg literally cut through my leather gloves, yep thats all fixed now😉. I think they should make a small spot for firesteels to please those who just gotta have it but personally for carving it sucks. When I started getting into bushcraft I thought 90° spines were a must, now that I carve with my knives everyday my opinion has totally changed. BUT putting one on is much harder than taking it off, so let um keep making um sharp, unfortunately with Mora it raises the prices a bit cause of the more hands on process.
So, like you, I have learned that carrying a striker along with the fire steel is not hard or inconvenient. With that in mind, it does not need 90 degree spine at all. I started using a "Light my Fire" Swedish Army fire steel that comes with a striker. Problem solved.
@faultroy well put, carving anything much with my opinel was getting rough 😏 lmao I know a few girls tougher than some blokes on bushcraft camp sites
Completely agree, in Sweden the knife has predominantly been a carving tool, not a fire making tool. Somehow we always managed to make fires anyway.
@@JG-ke7gj 😁 So true , the American marketing on "bushcraft" is all based upon a few popular channels who make feathersticks and strike a fire rod in each vid . If the knife don't have a sharp spine they get all bent out of shape ...Not once have I ever started a fire in a real world situation with my knife. Many of these folks don't use knives enough to even need a sharp spine yet they demand it be a measure of quality???
You see makers like LT Wright who have wicked sharp spines selling that aspect as a marketing tool and people gobble it up😂 Its all good I love a free healthy market but some things are just silly from my point of view. When I'm cold out camping ya better believe I ain't making feathers and pencil lead sticks then pencil size sticks and fluff then maybe some fat wood to warm my butt ...No WAY !! Quick kindling and a lighter maybe even some lighter fluid to really get her burning .
@@Airik1111bibles The last part had me laughing out loud cause that's exactly how I have been making fires growing up in Sweden, its cold as hell and you can't get a fire started quickly enough. In fact the carving properties of a knife is way more important and a rounded spine helps with that. Not that I mind being able to strike a fire rod with the knife, its just a matter of what serves you most.
I liked your video, and I was really curious about the Kansbol, but your mic level was so low I could barely hear you even though my levels were cranked all the way up!
Thanks Andy and sorry about the sound. I've made other videos and gotten similar comments so I upgraded my mic for future videos.
Three excellent knives 👍🏻
Most people Sweden carry an axe for chopping.
Batoning is last resort.
Mora 2000 is still the standard knife in the Swedish army.
Thanks for sharing that! I would have thought the Swedish army would have carried something more exotic. It makes me happy to know that Swedish soldiers have solid, simple gear.
3 1/2 years later, I'm just seeing this video...but I'm glad I did! I may just get a Kansbol too. I love the Mora 2000, that handle and the blade is just awesome. I wondered what the difference was between the two, basically small differences in the handles and sheaths but still the same great blade. Thanks for the info!!
Thanks for watching, Rick!
Man I’m in love with my Kansbol and I also nearly sliced my thumb clean off 😱😬 and God bless America from Scotland 🏴
Whoa! I hope you are OK. God Bless Scotland from America!
The Mora 2000 is an ideal backpacking blade, it's lightweight, highly versatile and doesn't take a lot of looking after even if you're in a damp environment next to the sea. I usually use my SAK for ferro rods anyway, though I will admit if the 2000 goes walkabout I'll probably replace it with a Kansbol.
I agree. Good point about the SAK, I should do a video on my go-to SAKs as well.
I had my 2000 for more than 15 years now and looks like shit. Seeing your knives condition makes me wonder if you are using them at all?
I do like to keep my knives clean and I polish them before videos if possible, but these knives were filmed 7 years ago and they still look great. Yes, I do use them, I just don't need to abuse them. My carbon Robust craftsman is pretty gnarly looking from living in my tackle bag, but even that one will clean up with some elbow grease and Flitz paste.
@@FreeAmericaChannel In this case you are doing fantastic job maintaining your knives!
Buy the Mora Garberg,that's all you need for everything.👍
I like my Garberg too, but I seem to carry the Kansbol the most.
I am glad you said left or right on the sheath I will get one now I know as I am left handed
I'm glad you found it helpful. You won't be disappointed.
appreciate the great comparison and overview. Going to have to upgrade to a Kansbol now!
Thanks for watching Robert! Of three knives in the same price range, it is the one to have, in my opinion. All the best to you, sir!
I wish Mora used the rubber grip on the Garberg like they did on the Kansbol.
I do too. Even if they did, I have a hard time paying that much for it.
I agree. I fell for the internet hype and got a Garberg last year and I like it the least of all the Moras I own. It's thicker than it needs to be, heavier than it needs to be and it comes with a micro bevel that needs to be removed in order to get the benefit of a true scandi grind.
@@Eurotrash4367 Which one would you suggest for bushcraft then? Thanks
@@ulary - To be honest, any Mora will make a fine bushcraft knife. Choose the one that feels most comfortable in your hand. If you are just starting out the Mora Companion is a great choice. I own just about every Mora model available and I still use the Companion as a primary BC knife and it only costs about $14 here in the US.
Turn it around. Why do you want a 90 degree spine on your bushcraft blade? Every ferro rod comes with s striker. I'm not opposed to a 90 degree spine but they can be to sharp also making some push cuts really hard on the hands. The sparks that come of a ferro rod are really hot and can stick to your knife. Why would you want to mess with the temper of your blade by using it to strike ferro rods?
I do like it that you compare the blades. For me I see no reason to get the Kansbol. I think it's more expensive over here. For somebody who does not have any knife yet and wants to go out in the bush it will be a good choice for the smaller tasks.
Thanks for your comment, Dutch Bushcraft! Most of my ferro rods did not come with a striker. I never thought about sparks from the ferro rod damaging the temper on the blade. That is worthy of some research, I think. I wonder how we could test that theory. I don't have a hardness tester. That is an intriguing problem to think about.
+Free America. I get mine from China and they all come with a striker. A carbon steel striker so you can also use it to make sparks with a flint. I did not test if it damages the blade and also have no tools to test this.
I do know when machine sharpening a already tempered and hardened blade or even drilling it they cool it down all the time worried about the heat messing with the temper. So I just wonder what a 3000 degrees spark will do to the temper of the blade? I do think it's an interesting thing to maybe get investigated.
We can only hope that some person with the test facility sees this and decides to test it for us ;)
Good video, button you use those knives? They look brand new. I wish mine looked that good. I love my Kansbol, it is now one of my favorite knives.
LOL, yes the Kansbol is pretty new in this video, the Bushcraft Forest has spent most of its time in the drawer and I have used the 2000 quit a bit, but I do like to keep them clean.
Nice knives, but don't you think that the Bushcraft has a better and safer handle ?
Better grip and a sort of "guard" so you do not slip on the blade with your hand.
A rounded spine is my preference. Why making fire with a ferro rod if it is much easier with a box of matches or a lighter ? ;-)
Greetings, John
Hi Johnny W, thanks for watching. The Bushcraft handle is fine if you are using a hammer grip but not so great if you are using it for chest lever cuts. I have not slipped past the guards on the other handles, but I'm not stabbing with these knives, generally. Of course it is easier to make a fire with matches but having the ability to use a ferro rod of your matches are soaked or your lighter is out of fluid is important. Redundancy in essential tools is something I look for.
Say Heah Why doesn't everybody say the Kansbol and the Mora 2000 are identical except for the card (90°} spine. Infact I use my Mora 2000 with my Mora Hatchet and Bacho Laplander for my very Lite Trio. The Mora Kansbol O permanently attached to my Fox Parang Bushcraft Jungle Knife Sheath. I have a few more including a Frost Clipper 840 MG. I like using my Mora 510 as my Neck knife when I take my Modified Rodent 6 which now l@@ks like a Ratmandu on steroids. I also attached my Mora Classic #1 to my Bokor Vox Black Rold after I put a belt loop with a handle strap that was a bit too big and that's where I attached my Classic #1. But I also have a Mora Forest Exclusive #277 and a old vintage Mora with a hand guard with a wood handle and metal pommel. The sheath is leather with metal trim.,,. p
I have Kansbol. I destroyed the point of the knife after batoning :/
kAs, that is too bad! I don't really baton with knives, that is the major reason why.
got a 2000, stupidly good knife for that money , but the sheath sucks... no matter the knife itself is superb
Nice... I have the bushcraft forest I like the handle shape best. I added a 90 deg spine with my dremmel tool. I use it for scraping bark off branches, more so than ferro rod use. Not sure what they were thinking when they omitted it. I think its the only bushcraft model without a 90 deg spine.
I agree, MuvoTX. If the bushcraft forest had the 90 degree spine it would be great(er).
what did he say ??? ,,, cant hear,,, low volumn,,,
Are the 3 blades the same thickness? The 2000 model has a proper engraving or punched marking.
@Free Citizen they are the same blade on every knife.
Horrible audio. Can't hear anything unless the room is completely silent.
Sorry DA Palmer, I have since upgraded both camera and microphone.
This knife has a lower price than that knife!
Well it is not the same kind of knife...
Thanks Bjorn. They are very similar, don't you think? But the Kansbol is the best of both worlds.
Hi, is the thickness same for 2000 vs. Kansbol??
Indeed, they are the same blade in all respects.
Try increasing the volume a bit.
Thanks Denis, I have a mic now and that helps a lot.
Looks like the finish on the other 2 blades is prettier but the handle and spine make a big difference on the knife and the sheath is the kansbol your favorite of the 3?
It is, the Kansbol is one of my all time favorites for fishing, hunting and camping.
@@FreeAmericaChannel it looks right up my alley i decided to get one but had second thoughts when i seen the 2000 and the bush craft
@@BUZZKILLJRJR I don't think you can beat it for the money and light weight.
Nice comparison buddy.
Thanks survivalmike!
I like the Kansbol better than the 2000 and the Bushcrsft.Kansbol has a sharp spine and is much cheaper than the two.
good video, but volume is too low.
You don't want a sharp spine on a bushcraft knife. Believe me
Thanks Paul, I think I like the sharp spine for ferro rods, otherwise, I would agree they cause some issues.
@@FreeAmericaChannel yes, I agree. I do put a sharp 90 degree on the front part of the blade. Not sure the name. Like the false edge part and keep the part close to the handle smooth for my thumb during carving. Seems to be a usable balance of both
How the knives holding up these days? Hard to hear you in the video, please explain the differences between the knives...the blades appear to be similar or the same.
so have you added the garberg to your collection yet?
I sure have. This video is pretty old, but I have the Garberg stainless and the Garberg carbon in black.
@@FreeAmericaChannel its addicting...
Is the thickness of the 2000 & kansbol the same?
They are the same blade, 2mm thick.
I never understood the whole battoning crap stupid stupidity lol. I carry an axe or hatchet if I need to chop down a tree or split firewood!
I understand why people do it, but I carry a hatchet too. I suppose if you were down to just your knife you may be forced to do it, but I haven't been forced yet.
I'm a bit lazy, and old, avoiding weight at all costs, except for the sleeping bag and the mattress ;). So, I use a Mora or Hultafors knife in combo with a Tajima folding saw, great little combo to cut almost anything.
Try using an axe in the snow with no base.
Thanks for the side by side, exactly was I was looking for. I really dont get why they just dont do a partial sharpening of the spine and leave an inch closest to the handle. That way you can scrape, strike a ferro rod and carve wood with comfort.
If you strike alot of ferro rods you should look into getting one of those Light my Fire Army strikers btw. They're awesome, unlike every other striker I've seen that sucked.
+TheKimjoh560 Thanks for your comment, I'm glad this is what you were looking for. It seems they could sharpen the spine without too many extra steps. I will check out the Light My Fire. i usually buy rods with no handles and make my own from wood.
Free America The fire steel itself is good but its nothing special, its the scraper. Its got kind of of a special edge on it that makes it exceptional. Its not just 90 degree like most are. Imitating that on a knife spine would be awesome.
Thanks! Now I have to check it out.
I just bought one!
Free America Awesome, let me know what you think :)
Regulate your volume. Great video.
Yep, I've learned a lot about using a good microphone since making this video. Thanks for watching!
I am very happy with my Kansbol! Love the dual grind for different tasks!
Thanks for watching Philip! I couldn't agree more.
The audio sucks on video.
Thanks Ramon. I've upgraded my mic since I shot this video.
Test the knife! Don't tell me if the box is from recycled materials!
Calm down Pauly. Did you forget your meds?
@@FreeAmericaChannel how did you know??!
@@FreeAmericaChannel btw, was a joke;) great review lot of info. Thanks for making the effort.
@@paulyjuan1838 I guess it was I that forgot my meds and couldn't see the humor. Thanks for watching and for the kind words.