DIY Concrete Forms (Forming the foundation footings!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2019
- We built our own concrete forms for our foundation. This wasn't super hard to do, it just took a couple of days to complete. Next we are going to pour the concrete into the footings!! It has been such a blast doing all of this ourselves. It can get a little overwhelming at times, but you just have to focus on the project that's right in front of you, instead of thinking five projects down the line!!
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This is the only video of diy footing forming on here, and the rest are contractors skimming through. Although I’d like more detail from stringing lines to the end but this is better than none. Thank you for uploading it
Glad you enjoyed it, we do have a video specifically about the string lines (or batter boards) if you hadn't seen that one it may help as well!
Awesome work! My wife and I are get ready to start building our mountain home in AZ.
That's awesome to hear! I hope our videos help, and good luck with your project, let me know if you have any questions!
All I can hear is my grandfather saying “Jesus Christ boy, hit the nail don’t make love to it” nice form though lol
Haha, it was hard to give it a good hit when your leg is the backstop lol! Thanks for watching!
Grandpas used to be so loving
Man me and a friend are looking to build a workshop and trying to find a video on making foundations is a nightmare. This is a great help
Glad our video was helpful good luck on your workshop!
Looking good Jackson and Chelsey!
Great video!!
Thanks!
Hey, good work and informative video. What was the copper line for where you ran it from vertical rebar to vertical rebar?
That is our ground. In our county they require a ufer ground. Usually this is done by having one piece of rebar that protrudes from the concrete that you ground your electrical system to (this uses all the rebar in the foundation as a ground). However our county requires we run an actual copper ground wire inside of the foundation. I don't remember the specific length they require. Hopes this helps!
@@PootsPastures did they call it a ground or a bonding wire?
@@PootsPastures very interesting, I have never heard of this technique before. Learned something new today!
If you se 2 peiced of pipe works good nice cean corner bends
That's a good tip! I had a couple of pieces of pipe but they were 8ft long so they wouldn't have worked.
What brand of ICF did you go with? Looks like the BuildBlock I’ve been considering for my house build. Did you like it?
I went with build block because there are only a few companies that will sell directly to consumers and they were one. They also have a plant near us so we were able to pick up the order a save on shipping. I honestly don't think there is a huge difference in the different ICF manufacturers I think it comes down to cost and what's available near you. Thanks for watching, I hope this helped
What is the price you paid for icf if you remember
I think they cost about 2,000
It is going to be very difficult to excavate the dirt in the middle after the footings are in place. Are they for a perimeter wall only?
Yes we did a stem wall with a crawl space. We have a video about encapsulating the crawlspace where you can see what it looks like finished.
But we did not excavate the mound out. Thanks for watching
I'm building one . YAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Hi, I was wondering if there has been any foundation settling in your house since you did not compact any stone under your footer. We are going to start building our house and I am very nervous about getting the foundation right. Thank you
No there has not been. We were told by our inspector not to add any contacted fill and that the foundation should sit on "undisturbed soil". If we added compacted fill we would have had to send the soil to a lab for some sort of compaction test. Hope that answers your question!
@@PootsPasturesThank you, yes it has. We have loamy sandy soil and under it clay, so I think it will settle unless we use compacted crushed stone under our foundation. Great videos and hope you guys are enjoying your new house.
Was it difficult getting those outside frames off ? How did you do it ? I’m pouring something very similar and this has been keeping me up nights because it’s pretty close to the dirt ‘walls’ of the excavation.
So in some spots we buried the boats a little to help with any gaps at the bottom of the form. In the places where the forms were partly buried it was an issue and we even had to leave some in places. However even when the forms were close to rocks or the side of the trench, as long as we didn't Barry the form they were easy to get off.
Hope that helps!
@@PootsPastures it actually does give me some insight. Thank you ! New subscriber 🍻
Thanks for subscribing! And if you have any other questions about what we did let me know an I'll try to answer them the best I can. Good luck with your project!!
Sept. 1988 I started to build my house same way. Aug. 1989 we moved in.
That's awesome! We've been at it for about a year now so it will probably take us another 6 months till we get moved in!
Thanks i want to do similar on a 700 sq foot cabin in Poland, solid straight footing is the best start for your foundation walls.
Good pal👍🏽
Thanks!
Is that your building electrical ground? What’s the benefit of that over a regular ground rod?
I think the main benefit is not having to drive ground rods into the ground. We have very rocky soil here so it would be hard to do a normal ground. It's also just how things are done in this area which isn't the best reason but it's what I got... If you dig back on pure living for life's channel they have a decent explanation of a Ufer ground.
Does it do any good to have your grounding in the concrete. It’s called grounding for a reason it goes in the ground
You obviously have done this before, sorry if you covered this. But what was your trade before? It is truly awesome that you took this part of the build on.
I actually hadn't done any concrete before this build, but let me tell you concrete is by far one of my favorite things to do. And I'm a paramedic. I had some general carpentry knowledge, and a good amount of electrical knowledge before I started.
Thanks for watching, hope you enjoy the build!
I dont think he has. No hate, just sayin.
You're all good I hadn't done anything remotely like this before, but if I had to do this foundation again I would do some things differently. But I'll get another chance when we do our barn!
How many pallets of ICF did you pick up and what size trailer..
7 pallets total and a 16ft trailer. If you check out our Instagram we have a picture of it loaded (it was a wile ago so you'll have to look for it)
How big was your foundation in square feet and how much did the ICF cost you?
The foorprint of the house is 20x32 so it's 640 square feet. The ICF'S cost just under 2,000, but would have been more if I had to jave them shipped but I picked them up from the factory myself.
Hope this helps!
Hi, I have two more questions if you don't mind answering it would really help me out. 1. How deep is your frost line and how far did you dig for the footer. 2. what material did you use to backfill. Thank you very much for your help.
Our frost line is about 24 inches, and our county requires the footings to be at least 30" into undisturbed soil. We also just used the native soil to backfill, if your going to have drainage issues and are going to do a French drain, you could use drain fabric and washed rock around the drain, but we didn't have an issue so the native soil worked for us
@@PootsPastures Thank you very much. So the bottom of your footer set 30" in to undisturbed soil? Or is the 30" measured from the top of your footing. Thank you
From the bottom of the footing, and since we are on a slight incline the most shallow portion is 30" and the deepest point is 40" so we have about a ten inch slope over 30 feet or so.
@@PootsPastures Thank you very much for the information.
Out of the 3.5 millions videos I watched on you tube, wife is always helping building stuff, why my doesn't care at all?
I guess I just lucked out lol!
Time for a replacement then
I think I learned more from his video than others
Good to hear, thanks for watching!
This is pretty awesome. Did you get any quotes to let the pros do it, or did you not even consider that? I'm kind of curious how much you saved in labor costs and if you'd do it again or if you'd rather just pay someone. I'm about to submit plans for my build and wondering if I should attempt this DIY.
So I never thought about hiring a contractor I always wanted to do it myself. I have since heard some horror stories that made me thankful I didn't hire someone. But on everything I was able to research I found that the labor is about 50% the total cost.
The couple of contractors we have dealt with (for the septic, and drywall) have been alright, we had issues with each one. it's deffinately nice not having to rely on others, but then you can only blame yourself when you mess up!
How do you know how much to dig out?
Muy bueno.
In your next video ,explain the ground requirement again please.
I will cover it again in the video where we hook up to grid power, but I'll also try to explain it here since that video is a couple weeks out. Basically there is some guy (Ufer) who found that he could use the rebar that was incased in the concrete foundation as a ground instead of having to pound ground rods into the earth. Code allows you to use the rebar that is encased in concrete as a ground, however our inspector wanted us to run a 4 awg copper grounding wire into the concrete instead of just using the rebar. Code says that the rebar has to be continuous for 20ft, or if the 20ft is made up of separate pieces of rebar they must be tied together with the normal steel tie, or you can weld them to make a connection between them. Code also says that you can use a 4 awg copper wire that is run 20ft in the foundation instead of the rebar, however I believe our inspector only wanted the wire to extend 10ft into the foundation (not sure why he didn't want the full 20ft of wire, or why he didn't accept the rebar as the ground but he's the one who passes us so we gotta do what he says)
I hope this answers your question if you have more specific questions feel free to let me know! Thanks for watching!
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Was that zip tie suposed to hold?
It was holding the rebar to the spreader. We just tried bending the rebar without taking off the zip tie and it just broke the zip tie.
Lmao
Hey awesome video!!! Buttttt what’s the song at 6:48?
I'm not sure it's just non copyrighted music that I got from TH-cams library
Great series of videos. What brand of ICFs?
Thanks! And build block they were relatively local and would sell direct to consumers instead of having to go through a lumber yard.
Hope that helps!
@@PootsPastures it does. I’m using Buildblock too on a building that’s 20x50. Doing things very similar but using fastfoot and steel forming stakes. Nervous since I’ve never done before.
I've never heard of fast foot, by the photo it looks pretty cool I'll have to do some research before we do our barn. And I was really nervous before we did our foundation too, just double check everything is level and you'll be good. After doing our concrete and a patio for one of my friends I'm kind of addicted to the sound of s trowel on concrete!
Poots, how long did it take to set up your forms AFTER you had all the string layout done? I’m at that point and trying to gauge how long to set the forms to the string, tie rebar, set the vertical rebar and be ready for concrete. BTW very nice use of the fence post pounder to bend your vertical rebar!!!!
We had a 2 week break in the middle when we went on vacation but if it were full days it probably would come out to 4 full days of work to get batter boards set up all the way to being ready to pour. The biggest challenge we had was if we forgot to get somthing at the store or needed more concrete stakes we had to drive 30 minutes back into town. Hope that helps you!
what are the width and depth of the footer itself?
The footers are 2 feet wide, and 1 foot deep. Hope that helps!
Why is it necessary to build form to pour concrete foundation? Is it cheaper to build form instead of pouring more concrete?
So In our area is done a couple of ways, the first way is how we did it which is to build a form, and the second way is to dig a narrow whole and pour concrete directly into that. I was just more confident that I could get it level and square doing it with the forms. Hope that answers your question!
@@PootsPastures oh thanks for answer. I am just taking it from financial standpoint. We are trying to design our house on budget and I was wondering if it is necessary because in our country it is cheaper to get one or two more mixes of concrete instead of framing it like you did. But I guess that highly depend on where you live
Yeah and if you are pouring a slab you can do a mono pour and pour the footings and the slab all at once which would probably be more economical. We just had a crawlspace. When we do our barn we are going to so a mono pour and do it all at once.
My wife will never go into a trench, but she will bring me a lemonade
Haha well at least she's still helping lol! I've gotten pretty lucky with mine she puts up with a lot of crap and working long hours!
Bro! You know you can use screws, right?
Back up those hammer blows with a 10lb. sledge. So ur not knocking the forms all over. Cut the handle of a long wood handle down to abt 16". You'll use it a lot more.
That is definitely one way to bed bar
Wouldn’t it be easier to use a metal stake?
We did end up buying a bunch more metal stakes. The wood stakes would have worked great if we had the right soil type. And they did work We just broke a bunch in the process
Congratulation you got that title
Why don’t you rent or buy a rebar bender, makes life a lot easier. Looking good
Once the rebar was on the ground and not on the blocks the post driver worked great. Also the half hour drive to town, then half hour back, plus cost of buying or renting somthing that I would use for about 15 minutes was not worth it. Thanks for watching!
buy rent spend spend, why put in any sweat equity.... the american way
a thumbs up to you, young man
Well as I have built myself three houses it makes life easier and the job is faster and a better job of bending the rebar to be placed properly in the footings. But hey each to their own. I will go spend a few bucks to speed things up and get a overall better product and pass my footing rebar inspections. Just saying is all.
The amount and size of bar wouldnt justify the cost. some plumbing pipe would have been better or two solid posts
I tried a couple peices of pipe I had laying around but they were so long it was unruly... thinking about it now I could have cut them with my band saw but at the time I didn't think of it.
Bang the Fuc&ing stakes in i guess! lol
it never amazes me what people try to bend rebar with when a hickey bar is so cheap and will ship anywhere from amazon....haha
The post driver was awesome it worked really well once I got the rebar off of the blocks and on the ground! Thanks for watching!
Good advise.
C'mon Man get yourself a impact driver!
I have one, if I want using it I probably left it somewhere else that day lol!
You have a great woman my friend.
Thanks I think she's pretty great!
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Get a pipe bender
You sound a bit like Casey Neistat😅
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Dang dude you needed your girl to help you lift the wood ! I'm sorry , you know how you fix that ? Push ups, pull ups and so on.. if I asked my wife to help me lift that first she would just laugh, and then she would be like. , Are you feeling ok?? I just teasing you bro, but still kinda funny!!! O yea p.s. get a large air compressor and a nail gun , and you can skip all that banging sh!t
If you bent rebar like that on my crew you’d be fired
Well when I'm building my house I'm the boss and I'm probably the best worker I have lol.
Kind of a silly comment. This guy isn't on a crew - he is a do it yourselfer. He got the job done, even if it wasn't pretty.
that is NOT how to bend rebar
Please don’t try to make all the impossible things by yourself.
Just because their impossible for you doesn't mean they are impossible for us.
Scrap the annoying soundtrack
How the hell you going to Build a house and you can't even set form board by your damn self you need your woman to help you set form boards really Utah, building a house you need to hit the damn gym
Well the house is built...