Why Your Vocals Sound Thin

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  • @HelpMeDevvon
    @HelpMeDevvon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Visit www.helpmedevvon.info for goodies!!

    • @maisonarmanimusic
      @maisonarmanimusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does every frequency spectrum mid high low has to be same volume to have a fuller mix?

    • @khayree
      @khayree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to thank you Devvon.
      Every single one of your videos is the formula. I have several questions I will ask a few.
      What interface do you use?
      What resolution are you recording at?
      . Other than the Neve what else do you use on your mix buss?
      I am currently using an Antelope orion synergy core and I am very dissatisfied with it. Primarily what I am missing with it is top in. I used to use ARME 800 and I loved it when I can pair mixes from the RME to the Antelope the Antelope sounds muffled same song same mix.
      Do you do consultations?
      Last question for now I am looking at the lynx Aurora.16 Ch AD/DA Or Apollo 16Ch hexa core.
      I use a 16 channel passive Summing mixer powered by Neve 1272 with an API 2500 hardware on the mix bus.
      The Antelope orion synergy core converters are not crisp it’s like 30% of the mix is covered with blankets.
      If you do consultations send me an email with a cell number I will gladly pay you for your time and knowledge. Again I greatly appreciate as an older producer you taking the art form to another. level
      great music and great engineering skills etc. Appreciate you
      Khayree
      Khayree1@protonmail.com

    • @UziBlancoOfficial
      @UziBlancoOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which DAW do you use?

    • @beatsbyisaiahangels818
      @beatsbyisaiahangels818 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please put out a course and Pro tools certification class
      and SELL IT! So I can help fund this channel

  • @drowzee3333
    @drowzee3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    i’m 80% of my way through a bachelors degree in audio production and this man teaches me way more than anyone else

    • @iamshoni
      @iamshoni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree with all of this!

    • @The_BurningMan
      @The_BurningMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i was interested into getting a degree too, is it worthy ?

    • @Jp-tl4gj
      @Jp-tl4gj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@The_BurningMan get it for status & networking

    • @TheSecondC2
      @TheSecondC2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Jp-tl4gj lol no

    • @Jp-tl4gj
      @Jp-tl4gj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheSecondC2 you sleep

  • @StrykerGamingOfficial
    @StrykerGamingOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    It's crazy how you've taught me almost everything I know. I'll keep continue to grow and improve myself. I'm forever thankful to you bro

  • @hadbeats6798
    @hadbeats6798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Help me Devvon is my favorite show on the internet. This man is a gift from god

  • @johnmiller3394
    @johnmiller3394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Bruh, my stuff sounds 10 times better now with your tips than when I was recording before I heard of you!! I literally went and re-EQ'd and compressed some vocals on some old recordings I had did using tips I got from you and they just sound worlds better. thank you so much!!

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I need a “stay with me” T-shirt ASAP!!

    • @emsanchez85
      @emsanchez85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sir 🧐 wtf is a "T-shit"

    • @terrymiller111
      @terrymiller111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He'll lead you to the promised land if you let him. #BlackAudioMoses

  • @portofly94
    @portofly94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I didn't even think I needed to watch this. Now I feel like I just had a revelation and I'm about to go re mix all my projects. Critical breakthrough every time. Thankful for you, bro.

  • @RailorGamesYT
    @RailorGamesYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damnnn bro that analogy before the eq part about loudness and perception made my mind click!!🔥🔥🙏🏻

  • @yamwast
    @yamwast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    When i started mixing i used to cut too heavily at the low end of the vocals - i've found a mixture of low-mids cutting & the "mud" region of 200-400hz to be a better solution. as well as some multiband compression, subtle stereo imaging and a touch of waves doubler all help give vocals that full sound. nice video!

  • @jasonchu4400
    @jasonchu4400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    i understand everything so precisely Devon this shit so under-rated, we need a mixer who does not just do other people's vocals, but YOUR OWN Vocals! we're not tryna make beats or produce, we tryna learn how to mix our own VOCALS!!!!!
    it's kinda rare for a engineer to teach you how to do vocal mixing....because they're all focused on making beats

    • @EthanRadell
      @EthanRadell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you really gotta look at the eq and listen to yourself. Its the only way to get a custom mix thats perfect for you.

    • @lilboat223
      @lilboat223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bro what? do you know what an engineer is? their main purpose is to mix vocals. producers make beats

    • @jasonchu4400
      @jasonchu4400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no dooode there's different type of Engineers in Music Production itself....let alone REAL Mechanical, Software, Electrical Engineers in real life...
      the main purpose of an "Engineer" is to mix vocals....hella false my ninja
      does a master engineer or acoustic engineer "main purpose"...is to mix "VOCALS"???? no i dont think so!
      FIRST OF ALL
      YOU SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONE to know how and stylistically mix your own vocals...
      so you can at least have the English to talk to an engineer when you pay for their services you know what you want
      SECOND if you want to keep the style of the beat PURE then send stem vocals to the Producer that MADE THAT BEAT ITSELF! then let HIM Mix YOUR VOCALS....to HIS OWN STYLE OF his beat instead of a third-party unless you know them and did your homework and have a significant amount of experience using mixing services of all sorts including your own

    • @lilboat223
      @lilboat223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jasonchu4400 bro I had a stroke trying to read that

    • @moleedaboi
      @moleedaboi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's certainly not underrated

  • @rtistofficial6070
    @rtistofficial6070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Litterally was ready to buy a new microphone unitlll I heard this, thanks man

  • @Everrrrr
    @Everrrrr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I make metal but that original vocal take is great. Nice melodies and flow.

  • @d3crypt3d
    @d3crypt3d ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that lighting is 🔥

  • @user-mz3ni8yu4v
    @user-mz3ni8yu4v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Every time he posts I’m always excited !

    • @Lushcon
      @Lushcon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Every single time!!!!

    • @BallNeverStops7
      @BallNeverStops7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no kiz

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That means a lot!!

    • @emsanchez85
      @emsanchez85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pause lol but yeah, me too.. but pause 😂

    • @Lushcon
      @Lushcon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emsanchez85 not even pause worthy 🙈🤣

  • @lokiemane3586
    @lokiemane3586 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man don’t miss. It’s like I’m actually in school. & he be giving us homework to do. Good teaching skills. I’m impressed.

  • @dwaynejessome1728
    @dwaynejessome1728 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you've got a good way about you Devvon!

  • @Georgiareneepittsmusic
    @Georgiareneepittsmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are SO great at teaching. Thank you for answering so many Production questions. You make it so less overwhelming!

  • @Moabel
    @Moabel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a great teacher bro ... this is definitely your calling

  • @obeelaynemusiq
    @obeelaynemusiq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this tip as just save my mix...it made my whole song come to life...thank you sooo much, continue posting a lot of these tips,.. u r amazing ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

  • @montgomeryhaines2087
    @montgomeryhaines2087 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this technique. This causes those frequencies you like to stand in more.

  • @tferris8754
    @tferris8754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lord Have mercy HE IS SUCH A GREAT TEACHERRRR!! Thank you!!!!

  • @felixdavidsson3555
    @felixdavidsson3555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the absolute best tutorial ive seen on anything music related, thanks!

  • @noshitjohnny
    @noshitjohnny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you literally helped with the problem i been having for months thank you

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s good to keep listening to the vocals in the mix too.

  • @GG-dz1nf
    @GG-dz1nf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic, I can hear the difference even on my iPad speakers. Amazing tip!

  • @matthewutley5370
    @matthewutley5370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is great. I have no damn idea why I never thought about this... My vocals sometimes have that thin / tinny sound, depending on the song. I'm certain this is the issue.

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes this will help a lot!!

  • @EddyBeats6
    @EddyBeats6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This dude is a walking gem smh we need more yourtubers like him ‼️

  • @tdrew474
    @tdrew474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’d be dope if you could do a tutorial video recording a full song start to finish using one of your templates. I’m pretty new to the whole recording thing but so far your videos have been helpful, purchased a couple templates of yours to help start my recordings. Keep up the good work tho bro, appreciate what you’re doing!

  • @de-freitas-matt
    @de-freitas-matt ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir saved my vocals here. Thank you!

  • @Hoodienestoo
    @Hoodienestoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shout out to u for all this info fr

    • @jaklair
      @jaklair ปีที่แล้ว

      yoooo vroooo wanna collab HML

  • @cusiworld458
    @cusiworld458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly man , I’ve wasted hours watching other guys tutorials snd videos and I wish I found you a year ago , you have nothing but great tutorials and content !!!! Keep it up man thank you !!!!!!!

  • @Asholuck
    @Asholuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, the concept of about the ear attention toward loud frequency is cool

  • @maavinomusiq
    @maavinomusiq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting how i see this now, i did that to a vocal today. Its a good trick for real✌🇯🇲

  • @petussuss
    @petussuss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    now we need a tutorial on your
    lighting its crazyyyy good

  • @ramboee8211
    @ramboee8211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:00 bruh had me locked in like a kid that was getting in trouble 💯‼️💯

  • @StevedaveTodd
    @StevedaveTodd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir, are a gem to the recording industry. Thanks!!!!!!

  • @KlavarRecordings
    @KlavarRecordings 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned a new thing today that was brilliant, it thickened the vocal up at the click of 1 button. Pressing the phase invert on the EQ made the vocal thicker, only slightly but enough to notice the difference.

  • @pickleman5041
    @pickleman5041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That headphone wire is f***ing wit my OCD. I want to reach inside my monitor, grad his headphones and turn them around. Great video.

  • @GarrettJohnson80
    @GarrettJohnson80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your tips you are one of the realest person on TH-cam

  • @Chebito710
    @Chebito710 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro you just helped me understand wtf wtf. Thank you. Btw nice beard on that face

  • @Pensacola2
    @Pensacola2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He got the passion and the gems seriously how does this channel not have like 3mil subs

  • @crimewavbeats5532
    @crimewavbeats5532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My rule of thumb is to keep it natural as possible, today's mixing styles sound more "thinny" due to the preferred brightness and modern microphones, once you start tweaking excessively and cutting or boosting too much you, kill dynamics and ultimately killing the integrity of the human voice , me personally I just rid of unnecessary sub lows and then tame the lows ,(usually with a eq cut at 3 or 500hz and multiband compression to control the low end ) boost at the top and then compress and automate ,the d-ess just a tad .that way the vocal is consistent and balanced across the board

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like your approach!

    • @crimewavbeats5532
      @crimewavbeats5532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HelpMeDevvon aye man I learned a lot from you and Leslie Braithwaite lol

  • @clayblay
    @clayblay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. You made this concept easy to grasp. You' re engaging and that's the sign of a great teacher.

  • @minisynthmaniac
    @minisynthmaniac ปีที่แล้ว

    Just taking my first steps recording vocals and your advice is really valuable. Subscribed

  • @garrettscroggs
    @garrettscroggs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for doing these. I can never learn enough!

  • @exhaust4246
    @exhaust4246 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    O ma God 🤯 I finally got it ... you literally fixed my problem
    Bro much love to you man ❤

  • @alirezamahjourian3839
    @alirezamahjourian3839 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi devvon. I'm from iran and till now i learn alot of thing from you.
    You're my teacher bro. ❤❤

  • @MostHigh27
    @MostHigh27 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you Devvon!!!!! 💗💗💗 Thank you for this 🥰

  • @misteros4406
    @misteros4406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're a good teacher, since I star to watch your video I saw evolution on my mix

  • @Keepfaith101
    @Keepfaith101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I needed this video! I been trying to figure this out for a minute. 🙏🏽 thanks

  • @iamkingjrose3112
    @iamkingjrose3112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most definitely a great way to break it down. Respect

  • @lefapharoe7018
    @lefapharoe7018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    First To Comment Here, Keep Going Uncle Devvon, Mad Respect And Love From South Africa🇿🇦

  • @ISLANDVISUALS309
    @ISLANDVISUALS309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another banger 🐐🔥

  • @GrantFoxOfficial
    @GrantFoxOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is extremely helpful

  • @Robscure_
    @Robscure_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    makes me wanna go back and remix a whole project now that i know what the problem with the vox was lol. thanks devvon, another gem for future reference

  • @sonnybrasco9735
    @sonnybrasco9735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how you explained this bruh. Dope video

  • @kchathurangamusic
    @kchathurangamusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is longtime problem for me. today i will understood . thank you very much Devvon. Wish to success your all things

  • @jrdynamic07
    @jrdynamic07 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Devon actually helps !!! Thanks for the information and strategies

  • @deebornrich
    @deebornrich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man , you a blessing Fam, the actuality of you sharing the knowledge you learned yourself to us, is a blessing bro, I’ve learned so much from you over the past year, it’s crazyyy!!!💯🔥much love BroGod !!!

  • @CPRJnuski
    @CPRJnuski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    between you and wavy wayne i learnt alot

  • @UziBlancoOfficial
    @UziBlancoOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 request/suggestion.. when you do the play backs, maybe let the active an bypass parts play a little longer so we can hear an understand the examples a little better

  • @KiaOrion
    @KiaOrion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Devv you be KILLIN THESE

  • @Kawakajii
    @Kawakajii ปีที่แล้ว

    youre an amazing teacher thank you so much and your music is always fire

  • @Laurieryt
    @Laurieryt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are an absolute LEGEND 💎

  • @edwinreyna2460
    @edwinreyna2460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My guy didn’t even flinch when he boosted that frequency. 8:29

  • @camillehylton8805
    @camillehylton8805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You nailed it again bro !!!! 100%

  • @Brad2900
    @Brad2900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome mate, love it, cheers

  • @user-tg2cw1un6i
    @user-tg2cw1un6i 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So many gems 💎

  • @joeg2018
    @joeg2018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have always wanted to learn how to correctly create a wide vocal sound effect (haas effect) where I would duplicate a vocal track and pan one hard left and the other hard right.. That part is easy, but when I would play it back in mono I would always get some phase cancellation going on.. Have you made a video about this in the past? If so, where would I go to watch it..? If not, would you be able to make one? Thanks and I really appreciate what your doing here. Keep it up! :)

    • @lilghob
      @lilghob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Record two independant takes instead .

  • @selah_benjaminb7990
    @selah_benjaminb7990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip! Recently just switched from reason 11 to studio one 5, the eq’s are much more accurate and with free game it makes even more sense!! Keep up the good work my brotha!!! ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

  • @ZonymaUnltd.
    @ZonymaUnltd. หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subtractive EQing is so crucial.

  • @201jayy
    @201jayy ปีที่แล้ว

    AMAZING VIDEO youjust fixed my #1 problem!!! thank you davon

  • @bodunrinjaiyeola1042
    @bodunrinjaiyeola1042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man! You’re a gem

  • @thomvsjs
    @thomvsjs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I appreciate your tutorials, big up

  • @alphareaper8158
    @alphareaper8158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In another word what frequency you decide to attenuate, boosts the other untouched frequencies, so you get a better equalization in frequencies, great vodeo

  • @LupeNunezDotCom
    @LupeNunezDotCom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Devvon!

  • @lostee2001
    @lostee2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Devvon....you helped me!! Thank you, so much for sharing!!

  • @iamshoni
    @iamshoni 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an awesome tip! I can’t wait to try this on my vocals.

  • @moutderire5658
    @moutderire5658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are loved devvon 😂😍

  • @HabaeksMusic
    @HabaeksMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting for these..damn thanks men📣

  • @drecurry9857
    @drecurry9857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because I know on the eq explained video you said 1-4K is for presence in the mid range . To boost and if harsh do the boost in the Lower end of the spectrum “1.5 k”

  • @thesailamemoirs
    @thesailamemoirs ปีที่แล้ว

    man i was vibing to the singing more than the information😂😂

  • @denezruss4409
    @denezruss4409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i've been wacthing your videos! thanks to you i start to really understand how to produce a music! thanks for everything

  • @fhulunari
    @fhulunari 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is gold. 🔥

  • @yrora678
    @yrora678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Devvon, would you record a video about Izotope Nectar 3 and how would you use it with other plugins? I would be so happy. :)

  • @JokerMansBeats
    @JokerMansBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Randomly came across this vid. Good info here. Keep up the good work.

  • @ELMCinc
    @ELMCinc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. 💪🏾

  • @TieDiesel
    @TieDiesel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mannnnn! You are alwayz on point bro! Great Stuff! Thx bro!!!

  • @fernan4x
    @fernan4x 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dope vid Devvon!

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    really good tip! thank you Devvon

  • @djcj
    @djcj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lifesaver. Thank you.

  • @iavinmccormick7931
    @iavinmccormick7931 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this song that’s so much for your help

  • @crushtrend666
    @crushtrend666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep goin the good work bro, learn a lot with your contents 💯

  • @applecrazy1
    @applecrazy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You still think the Neumann TLM 103 is the best bang for your buck? You still use it? Is the shockmount worth paying 150 euro more?

  • @matthewcoldheart4783
    @matthewcoldheart4783 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're real helpful brother! Cheers!

  • @ksmit
    @ksmit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Davon! You helped me.

  • @mr.dollar420
    @mr.dollar420 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Video - many thanks!

  • @HatinKiwi
    @HatinKiwi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another helpful tutorial as always

  • @NovaBro.
    @NovaBro. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a hero brother. Thank you for sharing this 😌

  • @JunyL
    @JunyL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    gracias bro this it makes a big difference to my mixes