HX Stomp and HX Effects || More Powerful than a Helix? (sometimes yes)
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- For my Presets visit: johnnathancordy.gumroad.com/ @line6movies have really upped the stakes with their last few updates, in particular the 3.0 firmware update introduced some algorithms for Pitch shifting, Poly Sustain and so on that I think quite a few Line 6 HX Stomp users may have found difficult to make use of due to DSP constraints. That for me is when I started to use the Helix a bit more - but what about cheaper options - could a Line 6 HX Effects be one of the cheapest ways to get essentially the equivalent raw processing power of a full Helix with an HX Stomp and HX Effects?
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1:01 could you break that lick down for your loyal patreons :)
i have lost my wife and my kid this year. Since then i have immersed myself into hours of playing my guitar. I watch your videos on helix. Your playing has so much feelings and emotions, makes me forget everything for a while. Thanks.
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+ you could use HX effects as a midi switcher for HX Stomp (no matter if it’s first or last in the chaîne): plenty of buttons, to switch both units at once.
I've thought about this before. Never considered having the cab/IR outside of the HX Stomp but using the HX Effects for cab/IR, post-EQ/compression/delay/reverb would free up the Stomp for some nice dual amp combinations
Damnit, I might have to buy a HX Effects now to go with my Stomp and two Eventide H9s
Great video, John, just got an HX Stomp, few months ago got an HX FX (both, second hand, too), now I'm trying to figure out how to get great results from both units instead of using my Floor unit, this video arrives in the right timing for my experimentation process. Thanks!
Marvellous! I was quite thor after watching this… lovely thick/full sound you’re getting.
Awesome video I'm really liking these videos using the stomp and Hx effects!
Awesome playing as always!
I ended up running the Stomp and the HX effects in 4(-or many - it's stereo!-)CM. The disadvantages (if there are any - the latency isn't noticable to my dumb ears) are totally outweighed by the flexibility. I treat the Stomp as the amp (with benefits) and last in the chain so i can use the balanced outs/the headphone jack with my Tempus, etc, in the loop. Love it.
(Still, I want a Rack/Floor/LT too. Maybe if/when I grow up one day)
Great playing and tone on the intro/outro jams. I like that one can see the Seth Baccus shirt underneath the white shirt!
Howdy John, it’s been a wee while so good to see you exploring this set up! I enjoy my Stomp/HXFX rig for the reasons you mentioned but also (IMO) there are some other positives compared to my former Helix Floor too.
1. Modular: if one unit breaks then it’s a few hundred quid to replace. A lot yes, but not a grand #Floor Plus I could probably limp on through the gig with one or the other unit - available amp/cab depending.
2. I can add or take away Exp pedals depending on what I need that day. The Floor has that big old Exp pedal attached regardless. Keeps bags lighter!
3. This might sound daft but as the cost of Stomp+HXFX is less that makes me feel less “bad” about adding fave pedals? I love the Catalinbread Ehchorec and while it’s modelled on the Helix line I find the knobs on the actual pedal easier to use - there’s only 4 for one thing! - and I don’t need to scroll through screens to do likewise with the modelled effect on the HXFX or Stomp.
4. More of a tip this one. I can power both units (and the Echorec too #win) with a teeny Strymon Ojai and two Voodoo Labs CURRENT (not voltage!) adapters. Which means I only have one regular sized plug to power my entire pedalboard. This is very cool as the plugs Line6 attaches to both the Stomp and HXFX are freaking MASSIVE and take up a ton of space in a backpack all in their own.
Hoping life is good and you’re doing well. Keep the videos coming too - it’s always a delight to hear/see you play!😊🎸👌
Sick tone!! Could listen all day..
Your phrasing is really good, you can learn all the chords and scales in the world… but it’s all about the feels
Will have to keep my eye out for a hx effects for sure. Is this the Eric lead patch? Liking the tones and playing a lot :)
Currently using HX Stomp + FS4/5 + JamMan (floor Looper) + Boss GT-6 (for floor MIDI Controller). I need to explore turning on and off different blocks assigned to the same switch at the same time. Looks like it could be a good way to expand the number of buttons on the Stomp "virtually" without having to add any actual buttons. Thanks
Another thing the stomp/hx effects lacks compared to the helix is a vox preamp. I missed that one as soon as I sold the helix. Was much harder to do solo gigs without it
Hey bud, got the hx effects and loving it, gonna get the stomp next month,
Could I load your expression patches on the hx effects ?
Came for the review, stayed for the jokes
Let me know when you find them
How does the latency compare between the 4 cable method versus in series? Is it really noticeable? Also sonically isn’t it still 2 stages of D to A regardless?? Great video thx sir
John how do you set up stomp and hx at the moment? Do you use send/return, or just output of fx into input of stomp?
How long have you been playing and/or practicing seriously to get your chops? Love the pick work, wish I was there but I'll keep practicing
24 years!
Are you going from the output of the hx effects into the input or the stomp? I’m thinking about doing this and wondering if there are any unity gain differences between the two?
Hey brother
i have the hx stomp as well as apogee duet 2
not able to know how to connect the inputs to get a stereo sound as im getting only mono
im sure u would be the right help
thank you
How do the HXStomp+Effects compare to the Full Helix DSPwise?
It's more than a Helix
When I hear
That old song they used to play
Good one! :-) (rim shot)
That exact thought (and melody) also popped into my mind!
I have an Hx Stomp and I'm thinking if I should step up and buy a Helix LT or just combining an HX Effects would be the smart move. The bigger brother, Helix Floor is out of my league right now.
Can you sync the 2 loopers via MIDI?
Hey John have been loving your channel for some time and am finally going digital I think. I messed about with Positive Grid on my iPad but never could get great tones. I love fusion inspired sounds and was wondering if you felt the HX Stomp is up to trying to get the sound (but sadly not the hands and incredible mind) of Allan Holdsworth? On that point actually, would you be open to taking a paid commission to try and programme a few patches for me if I get the HX, of course Allan, but also a few others? Also, what do you prefer to amplify the HX - I dont have studio monitors at the moment but do have a Headrush active speaker (obviously mono)? And does the HX sound OK going through a traditional cab with the IRs switched off? Thanks in advance :-)
th-cam.com/video/BRujR6vEBcY/w-d-xo.html theres a few videos I've done trying to achieve something approximating Allan's tone!
I use jbl lsr305 at home, plenty of people use the headrush speakers and I think get decent results?
@@johnnathancordy Thanks John that is helpful to know. And come back to me on that other question about the Allan H preset if you like?
I noticed a Mesa Nomad amp. I have the Mesa Nomad 100. I am deciding between the Ampero Stomp II or an older HX effects. I clearly see the Ampero II looks like a clone of the HX stomp. I really don't need modeling. I use a Two Notes Torpedo Captor 8 for my Mesa and EVH 5150III EL34 50 heads. I send Two Notes Torpedo Captor 8 out to drive stereo fx. Then I use Two Notes Torpedo Cab M IR boxes in stereo. Parallel signal routing for certain scenarios is something I want for my rig. There is too many choices now.
Any way to avoid the 4ms latency by running the stomp & hx effects together?
I don't think so...
7:25 “Many ways to skin that cat…if you’re into animal cruelty”! 😂😂😂
I have two plans. HX Stomp and POD GO. Next, HX Stomp and Boss GT1000.
The Stomp and the Kemper is also a nice combination.
@@jimmcdougall9973
Kemper isn't amp simulator but profiler. It needs more money and operation technique. Of course Kemper is good.
came for the info, stayed for the cat skinning references
Classic intro, very subtle and Loki you might say... I suspect Jim will approve , made me laugh 😆
Pulls out the Olympic White Stratocaster.
Very stupid question but how are able to afford so much gear which is that expensive !
Great question, looking forward to this being addressed in a video
@@Deep_Jimpact 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Scribble strips is really hard to say.
Not a great Scrabble score either
Ha. The intro. I should've seen the low-key comment coming...🤣
I noticed that HX Effects aren’t selling well and are in wicked sale, not to mention a stomp XL kicks this setup’s butt. I hope that’s not the reason.
A stomp XL would be half as powerful. So. Yeh there's that.
“I wasn’t marvelled by it” doesn’t work.
That's what I said, it's sort of like if a comic movie had no get up and go
@@johnnathancordy can you be marvelled by something?
@@Deep_Jimpact depends how much they are paying
I run an HX FX into a full sized Helix and I still run out of DSP (Blues Lawyers, come at me, I'm ready 😈)
The question is...how?
Still run out of DSp ?Which city are you supplying electricity from them bro !
@@johnnathancordy I'll quote Nigel Tufnell on Joe Satriani: He plays a lot of notes, many notes, very fast notes... But where are they going?
@@pratyulmusic I use more energy than the bitcoin Blockchain and/or Denmark or Ireland
@@Superstacco hahahaha
You don't even need to use 4CM. Just use an FX Loop block on either device, plug in Send to Input and Output into Return, and plug in to the appropriate Input. Two cables and done. And with one more cable you can use MIDI from the "core" unit to control the unit in the FX Loop (or vice versa). I don't think you'd lose any of the stereo image since most stereo goodness is post-amp/cabinet, and either device can handle that with ease. Here's a fellow YT'er explaining it: th-cam.com/video/wfg__ajbnTU/w-d-xo.html
But you still get double latency using HxStomp and HxEffects regardless of going series or using FX Block to insert one device into the other, right? Guess there is no way around having two stages of A/D & D/A conversion happening when using two units.
@@stevethebeeline44 unfortunately no way around it, though I'd wager for most Regular Joe cases the latency is a moot point. Just play some dang music for cryin' out loud. :)
@@jnh73 4ms of latency using both is barely noticeable. Have both units set up with Bluguitar Amp1 on a pedal board and no latency issues worth noting. I know in DAW getting anything less than 10ms of latency and amp sims respond well! Yep all too easy to get obsessive about the small details. Looks like 1.38 meters from speaker gives 4ms delay. So just like putting your amp that far away again. 😂 you’d want to have some crazy bat hearing for that to be an issue. 👍