Im using wired iem nowadays and not tws anymore. I used Sony wf1000xm4 before but the battery only last for 9 month something until it has a draining issues and now it's completely unusable. So much for a new tech... This is not only happened on my sony earbuds but also a lot of other Bluetooth earbuds i own before. Im getting sick of replacing it for a new one every couple of months thts why im going back to iem..
It is obvious that some type of equalization is being applied by the manufacturer (phone or headphones) when LDAC is selected. No way a codec would change the characteristics of the sound this much.
@@AneeqAbdullah-mo4junah. Bitrate does not change the sound profile. Also, the bitrate of TH-cam is rather low, so the fact that a difference can be heard invalidates the bitrate argument.
OMG I found exactly this and thought I was mad at first. I'd go even further and say that I prefer the iPhone sound - it's less muddy and sounds really similar to AirPod Pro 2 sound. The volume also seems higher than on the Nothing phone. Nothing have a chance to improve this - especially the low volume on Android - but I still am frustrated that they went LDHC not LDAC.
Ldac is patented by sony, so it's gonna be very expensive if they wanna use another company's tech for they're product's since it's still they're competition, also i don't get why you're angry sinde ldac an ldhc have practically the same characteristics
I have used or own all the latest earbuds using all of these codecs. My favourite sounding earbuds raw denon and they use AAC and sound better than any of the higher level codecs.
Hey Aaron! In short, two questions: 1. I saw you wearing a Ferrari cap in the previous videos since you got a 'fresh' haircut. Are you a supporter of Scuderia Ferrari F1 team? or it's just a random cap you choose to wear? 2. I would like to know would the frequency response curve have slight differences under the use of different codec?
I look at hi-res like bio food. You can't always taste the difference, but you know it's probably better for you. So much of our perception is influenced by the subconscious. Better quality could matter more than what meets the ear.
Love your channel bro. Quick question, for the absolute best sound quality, in all the earphones, earbuds you've listened to, which do you think are the best for the gym? Great channel
What @TheGamingAudiophile said. It's the hardware. Apple's AAC implementation is more efficient and standardized across their devices, a major edge over the fragmented nature of Android's AAC implementation.
Wow you really didn’t talk about the lossless audio. I wanna know when playing on android vs iPhone what music file you used. Was it 320 kbps or lossless file like with .flac????
Would you more recomend Nothing Ear (2) or Sony True Wireless WF-1000XM4? I have feeling that Sony WF-1000XM4 are becoming litlle bit obsolete and have problems with batteries, but they are tested and proven in real live. On the other hand Nothing Ear looks good and they have good value for their price.
I think it's not all about the codecs. For example Edifier w240tn has only SBC but on all reviews they say that their sound quality is top notch! So the tuning is very important! For models that have higher bit rate codecs maybe it makes difference if you use them on SBC/AAC vs LHDC/LDAC and maybe it is made this way on purpose so that the customers say "yeah, the sound on lhdc/ldac is better than sbc/AAC". But it's all speculations and theories.
I tried Sony WF-1000XM5 with both LDAC and AAC with an original CD played with my Sony 4k bluray player that supports both LDAC and AAC. I couldn't tell the difference, honestly. I perceive it more on my Samsung A52 using TH-cam music, although the bitrate is just 256. I think it's true that Android's AAC codec is bad, but the difference with LDAC is not dramatic as the sound is still worse than through my PC and my bluray player using AAC. And the same happens with the Momentum TW3, no dramatic difference between AAC and aptX on my Android, and way better through AAC over PC and bluray player than through aptX over my Android phone.
I tested LDAC bluetooth drivers on Win10 with Sony wh-1000xm4. I couldn't tell a difference between LDAC with 900kbit/s and SBC with 300kbit/s (DSEE was on) Difference was nowhere near your samples in the video, no idea why. So I experienced no upside to the better codec, just the downside of stuttering connections if other things like a xbox controller where connected to (Audio would start to stutter because of limited bandwidth)
Please use something like Usb Audio Player Pro next time to compare. It can broadcast audio bypassing android system and use bit perfect. Transmiting sound as it is. I think the difference is to be found.
Interesting that AAC on an iPhone is similar. That may be because Apple has invested a lot in AAC since that's the best you're getting with Apple's own buds and headphones.
I do perceive the different in the codecs you've used on the Nothing phone in this video. However I am personally using the Pixel 7 with AAC and I have to say that codec sounds pretty good to me. To me with all earbuds this is much more about frequency response. If you use tuning with a smooth pink noise it can also sound very detailed on those lower regarded codecs like AAC even on Android phones. In my opinion in this example the mids and high frequencies sound better on the iPhone over AAC then with the Nothing phone on LDAC. I am personally tuning my earbuds on the given codec and it means I'd have to use different settings on AAC compared to LDAC to get the tonality right for me. It can be really tricky to get the right tonality in the mids, upper mids to highs region. That is a very tricky region to get right and to sound natural in my opinion. In all the tuning I do I listen to pink noise if that sounds right and also binaural recordings of nature sounds to check on realism of the mids and treble frequencies too. For me tuning is not all about boosting the frequencies, but more so about balancing the frequency response and that really opens up the sound as well to a sound that is more detailed and much more open and transparent.
Are you sure you were using AAC on the phone 1? I’ve done similar test myself, and discovered when disable HD audio, it default to SBC. I think this is due to how crap AAC is on android. You need to enable AAC in the developer menu.
I have the lhdc one + oneplus buds pro 2, which both support lhdc 5.0. But my phone is a samsung s24 ultra. I'm limited to 48khz at lhdc, probably because my phone doesn't support it?
I'm an ordinary music and podcast listener (not an audiophile). To me, i can't hear the difference between LDAC and AAC. Im using edifier neobuds pro. Hence, I'm using AAC for longer battery consumption.
AAC sounded great on my Galaxy Note 9 and Windows 11 laptops, but sounds pretty trash on my S23 Ultra - the bass often delays with a doubling effect while the treble distorts intermittently. It might just be an optimization issue for that phone but I was surprised how much worse it sounded.
Guys i have s 21fe with ldac no lhdc. I m thinking about to buy nothing ear 2 or sony link buds s which support ldac. I also use tidal. Will I hear the difference? What u think? I need a good call quality.
The difference is because each and every Android phone has some different audio chip and so does the iPhone! So the same earbuds and headphones sound different with different smartphones!
In this case, what service would you recommend using to listen to music in Hi-Res ? I use Pixel 6 Pro and headphones by Sony wh-1000xm4. Thanks for your reply in advance )
It seems lhdc on iphone is losing something in terms of soundstage (like the right earbud has lower volume and bass). It's amazing what iphone can do when it uses a lower bitrate codec vs a lossless one.
There is nothing important about hi-res (especially earphone ). To understand the subtle differences with mp3, you need to have an amplifier and a headphone or monitoring speaker (which is still not a big difference and the difference is as much as double Atmos on/off in mobile ) Nothing , came to advertise, weakened the AAC in his earphones so that hi_res shines more But with the same AAC iPhone that you are comparing, you will understand that this trick was from Nothing
![If you can't hear this then you're not an audiophile [See description for link to followup video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/48PxwspDvrE/mqdefault.jpg)
New technology always makes old technology look like trash.
🤣
Im using wired iem nowadays and not tws anymore. I used Sony wf1000xm4 before but the battery only last for 9 month something until it has a draining issues and now it's completely unusable. So much for a new tech... This is not only happened on my sony earbuds but also a lot of other Bluetooth earbuds i own before. Im getting sick of replacing it for a new one every couple of months thts why im going back to iem..
It is obvious that some type of equalization is being applied by the manufacturer (phone or headphones) when LDAC is selected. No way a codec would change the characteristics of the sound this much.
yes way when it has over 3 times the bit rate
@@AneeqAbdullah-mo4junah. Bitrate does not change the sound profile. Also, the bitrate of TH-cam is rather low, so the fact that a difference can be heard invalidates the bitrate argument.
OMG I found exactly this and thought I was mad at first. I'd go even further and say that I prefer the iPhone sound - it's less muddy and sounds really similar to AirPod Pro 2 sound. The volume also seems higher than on the Nothing phone.
Nothing have a chance to improve this - especially the low volume on Android - but I still am frustrated that they went LDHC not LDAC.
Ldac is patented by sony, so it's gonna be very expensive if they wanna use another company's tech for they're product's since it's still they're competition, also i don't get why you're angry sinde ldac an ldhc have practically the same characteristics
I'm listening to this on LDAC headphones and the difference on both comparisons is clear.
I'm listening on non ldac lon lhdc OnePlus Z2 neckband and even I felt the difference,idk some different EQ setting is applied for ldac
I have used or own all the latest earbuds using all of these codecs. My favourite sounding earbuds raw denon and they use AAC and sound better than any of the higher level codecs.
How should I interpret the fact that I am listening to this using the SBC codec and I can hear the differences? :)
It's like watching TV ads on your own TV screen :D
Bcoz you're listening to a compressed version of it and not what he is listening to
Hey Aaron! In short, two questions:
1. I saw you wearing a Ferrari cap in the previous videos since you got a 'fresh' haircut. Are you a supporter of Scuderia Ferrari F1 team? or it's just a random cap you choose to wear?
2. I would like to know would the frequency response curve have slight differences under the use of different codec?
❤Good video, could you make one, talking about your day-to-day smartphone and why??
This is some good info that audio picky people like me need to know, thank you Aaron ILAW.
Love the comparison. I have an iPhone and this vid helps a lot with these earbuds. Keep up the great work.
I look at hi-res like bio food. You can't always taste the difference, but you know it's probably better for you. So much of our perception is influenced by the subconscious. Better quality could matter more than what meets the ear.
wow that apples AAC codec is pretty dope...
Love your channel bro. Quick question, for the absolute best sound quality, in all the earphones, earbuds you've listened to, which do you think are the best for the gym?
Great channel
Hey Aaron. Can you do a comparison between LHDC and LDAC?
Ldac vs aptx hd vs Lhdc which is the best on Android only I have ldac sony xb910
Any reason or explanation of why AAC on the iPhone sounds a lot better than AAC on most of the Androids? 👀
It's processor intensive. iPhones are more powerful than Androids and have a more efficient OS.
What @TheGamingAudiophile said. It's the hardware. Apple's AAC implementation is more efficient and standardized across their devices, a major edge over the fragmented nature of Android's AAC implementation.
Very nice explanation there @cenen7021
Hello Sir,
I am using nothing phone 1. I want to buy TWS and my main purpose is calling over phone and teams. Should I buy nothing ear 2?
Good question, I'm curious about his opinion!
Wow you really didn’t talk about the lossless audio. I wanna know when playing on android vs iPhone what music file you used. Was it 320 kbps or lossless file like with .flac????
Would you more recomend Nothing Ear (2) or Sony True Wireless WF-1000XM4? I have feeling that Sony WF-1000XM4 are becoming litlle bit obsolete and have problems with batteries, but they are tested and proven in real live. On the other hand Nothing Ear looks good and they have good value for their price.
I think it's not all about the codecs. For example Edifier w240tn has only SBC but on all reviews they say that their sound quality is top notch! So the tuning is very important! For models that have higher bit rate codecs maybe it makes difference if you use them on SBC/AAC vs LHDC/LDAC and maybe it is made this way on purpose so that the customers say "yeah, the sound on lhdc/ldac is better than sbc/AAC". But it's all speculations and theories.
I tried Sony WF-1000XM5 with both LDAC and AAC with an original CD played with my Sony 4k bluray player that supports both LDAC and AAC. I couldn't tell the difference, honestly. I perceive it more on my Samsung A52 using TH-cam music, although the bitrate is just 256. I think it's true that Android's AAC codec is bad, but the difference with LDAC is not dramatic as the sound is still worse than through my PC and my bluray player using AAC. And the same happens with the Momentum TW3, no dramatic difference between AAC and aptX on my Android, and way better through AAC over PC and bluray player than through aptX over my Android phone.
My phone doesn't have LHDC support. Will it use only AAC 😅
I tested LDAC bluetooth drivers on Win10 with Sony wh-1000xm4. I couldn't tell a difference between LDAC with 900kbit/s and SBC with 300kbit/s (DSEE was on)
Difference was nowhere near your samples in the video, no idea why.
So I experienced no upside to the better codec, just the downside of stuttering connections if other things like a xbox controller where connected to (Audio would start to stutter because of limited bandwidth)
Fix your ears 👂
@@deykno87 since I acknowledged the difference presented in the video, maybe you should fix your reading.
How can you get LDAC on Windows? (Win11 in particular...)
Please use something like Usb Audio Player Pro next time to compare. It can broadcast audio bypassing android system and use bit perfect. Transmiting sound as it is. I think the difference is to be found.
Interesting that AAC on an iPhone is similar. That may be because Apple has invested a lot in AAC since that's the best you're getting with Apple's own buds and headphones.
You don't need any of those codecs if you have the between 3anc, it beats them all regardless of codecs
I do perceive the different in the codecs you've used on the Nothing phone in this video. However I am personally using the Pixel 7 with AAC and I have to say that codec sounds pretty good to me. To me with all earbuds this is much more about frequency response. If you use tuning with a smooth pink noise it can also sound very detailed on those lower regarded codecs like AAC even on Android phones. In my opinion in this example the mids and high frequencies sound better on the iPhone over AAC then with the Nothing phone on LDAC. I am personally tuning my earbuds on the given codec and it means I'd have to use different settings on AAC compared to LDAC to get the tonality right for me. It can be really tricky to get the right tonality in the mids, upper mids to highs region. That is a very tricky region to get right and to sound natural in my opinion. In all the tuning I do I listen to pink noise if that sounds right and also binaural recordings of nature sounds to check on realism of the mids and treble frequencies too. For me tuning is not all about boosting the frequencies, but more so about balancing the frequency response and that really opens up the sound as well to a sound that is more detailed and much more open and transparent.
Hi bro, can nothing ear 2 hear “lossless music” on iphone - apple music apps ??
Are you sure you were using AAC on the phone 1? I’ve done similar test myself, and discovered when disable HD audio, it default to SBC. I think this is due to how crap AAC is on android. You need to enable AAC in the developer menu.
I have the lhdc one + oneplus buds pro 2, which both support lhdc 5.0. But my phone is a samsung s24 ultra. I'm limited to 48khz at lhdc, probably because my phone doesn't support it?
Which Hi Res codec do you like the most?
Curious are those codes a software or a chip in headphone? why some headphone lacking of ldac or aptx?
Will the results of the soundpeats capsule 3 pro review you made 4 months ago change? Did you use LDAC then?
I'm an ordinary music and podcast listener (not an audiophile). To me, i can't hear the difference between LDAC and AAC. Im using edifier neobuds pro.
Hence, I'm using AAC for longer battery consumption.
AAC sounded great on my Galaxy Note 9 and Windows 11 laptops, but sounds pretty trash on my S23 Ultra - the bass often delays with a doubling effect while the treble distorts intermittently. It might just be an optimization issue for that phone but I was surprised how much worse it sounded.
Guys i have s 21fe with ldac no lhdc.
I m thinking about to buy nothing ear 2 or sony link buds s which support ldac. I also use tidal. Will I hear the difference? What u think? I need a good call quality.
what about aac on mac?
Im using a pixel 6a and this phone supports only AAC 😢
Better than samsung hifi codec?
Thanks Much !
What if you have a S22ULTRA?
The difference is because each and every Android phone has some different audio chip and so does the iPhone! So the same earbuds and headphones sound different with different smartphones!
can you review sony wh ch 720n😇
Which one is better Sony wf xm4 Or nothing ear 2? P. S. Sony fits my ear
Sony
I like aac on iphone better than any codec on android
😂😂😂
In this case, what service would you recommend using to listen to music in Hi-Res ?
I use Pixel 6 Pro and headphones by Sony wh-1000xm4. Thanks for your reply in advance )
Who can I add this F* option in android 12
It seems lhdc on iphone is losing something in terms of soundstage (like the right earbud has lower volume and bass).
It's amazing what iphone can do when it uses a lower bitrate codec vs a lossless one.
Actually, I can't tell the difference between hires flac and 320 kbps mp3 files.🤷♂
Does nothing phone1 support ldac
Yes
There is nothing important about hi-res (especially earphone ).
To understand the subtle differences with mp3, you need to have an amplifier and a headphone or monitoring speaker (which is still not a big difference and the difference is as much as double Atmos on/off in mobile )
Nothing , came to advertise, weakened the AAC in his earphones so that hi_res shines more
But with the same AAC iPhone that you are comparing, you will understand that this trick was from Nothing
AAC on iPhone >
You need hi-res, sony, LDAC.
Nothing else.
These earbuds are nothing compare to my galaxy buds
My joyroom sounds better than this earhype 2