Please, please, PLEEEEEEASE do Which Pokémon Would DreamWorks Heroes Choose! I just want DreamWorks x Pokémon to be fair, because the heroes of DreamWorks needs a Pokémon team too.
@@leighanneslegoproduction353 while we’re at it, let’s also do Disney and Pixar protagonists/heroes (I bet five dollars that Osmosis Jones/ basically Dave from Pahkitew Island would get a sobble for….. reasons)
Agreed. I think at one point it was mentioned she's 200 in human years. But, given that demons age slowly, lot of fans treat her like she's in her 20s mentally. Sorta like a 10 human years is 1 demon year for her.
It's even weirder because there haven't been mass howls of age gap about 99.99% of every popular vampire media ever produced, from Bram Stoker-Buffy-Vampire Diaries-Twilight etc.
I think it's plausible that Vox has a crush on Alastor, and he just can't accept the rejection and of the show ever implies as much, I will yell out I KNEW IT!
I hope Adam will come back as a demon. His first wife left him for another man. His second wife probably left him after the story of the apple. But I think that Lute will leave Paradise to stay with him. She will be the first woman in his life that never leave him.
@@BloodMoon-jd1fk I hope it will happen 🤞🤞 In that case we'll have two couples formed by an angel and a demon: Sir Pentious, a redeemed demon turned into an angel, and Cherry Bomb, a demon, next Adam, a fallen angel turned into a demon, and Lute, an angel. It would be interesting. But, for now, we don't know... 😔
Considering Alastor is canonically Asexual, I don't see Alastor being in a relationship. I get why he is shipped eith like half of the cast, I got to respect his status as asexual.
Hes an aroace and guess what aroace can still be in relationships or queerplatonic relationships. To think that they cant be in relationships is disrespectful
I at first seem to have not paid enough attention the first time I watched the episode because only by the second viewing did I even notice they weren't a couple even though iirc Carmilla deadass calls him a friend.
These two are in the top tier with HuskerDust Chaggie and (Insert the ship name of Cherri x Sir Pentious) and (Insert the ship name of Lilith x Lucifer)
The last plot point was GOLD. It's complicated, and beautiful, and doesn't villainize EITHER SIDE!!! Antagonize one-another, but does not turn either side into out-and-out bad guys. It would be a REFRESHING change in Viv's series. I doubt we're going to be supposed to hate Lilith, at least not like we hate Vox or... Stolas' screeching ex-wife. Also I LOVE to hate Val.
For the Lucifer X Adam one was hilarious because of this one sentence "You mess with my daughter and now I'm going to FUCK YOU 😏" that sentence that alone is what started it
Why is it always the crack ships with the phenomenal top tier names 😂😭 like the other day I found out the ship name for Lucifer and Vox is ‘AppleTV’ ITS SO CREATIVE AND FOR WHAT!? 💀
Huskerdust was pretty much confirmed to be a thing long ago, just a slow one- first Angel would become Husk's best friend and then they would hit it off.
Adam and Lute are honestly my favorite ship on the show. It sucks what happened to Adam, but right now I’m just on copium that he’ll come back as a sinner, even if I know that’s unlikely.
Also, they forgot RadioDust(Alastor x Angel). Yes, I know Alastor is asexual and I think also aromantic. But I feel like him and Angel would be cute together. Like, in a different universe of the show, not necessarily the one we're watching. I'm not saying this is what needs to happen in the actual show. Just my personal opinion.
@@morganann7759Alastors VA Said He Mispoke About Him Being Aromantic,I Headcanon He’s On The Aromantic Spectrum But Can Still Feel Some Romantic Attraction,I Love Radiodust Too But You Can Headcanon Him As Greyromantic Or Something To Make It Ok :D
@@Anna-hy4sb true, but when i say ship, I do mean more than romantic. Adam and Lute for me approaches several other character groups where id want a story just from their perspective, romantic or not. thats why i want to see more about them, doesn't have to be romantic. to a lesse extent im like that with Angel and Husk. if they take on a more mentor, Mentee friend/familial role I am all in on that.
For beings that were alive (kinda) well over a century such age gap wouldn't matter. IRL age gap matters because of a) experiences people been through and b) people aging biologically.
Alastor does NOT see Charlie as a daughter, you all need to be for real. They don’t seem like a family dynamic at all, and y’all constantly fall for his manipulation.
In all fairness, the audience falling for a sociopathic character's manipulations can mean that their manipulative tendencies are really, really well written. For instance, GLaDOS from Portal, who is manipulative and controlling and gave me Stockholm Syndrome right through the fourth wall. ...or, it could mean that the audience has the collective intelligence of a plastic spoon.
@@ceinwenchandler4716 LMFAOAO The plastic spoon part was it!! I think both are true in this case, Alastor is very well-written, and the audience also would think it’s true if any of the Vee’s said they were actually wanting to change.
You say that like him being a full on gaslighter and manipulator somehow makes the ship better lol. That said, he may not believe it, but Charlie sees it that way. Or at the very least she believes that is what he is trying to do. So either way this is just another strike against a ship that was already at the bottom of the ocean.
@@ymir6286 When did I say that made the ship better?? I love the ship but it is undeniably toxic, and Alastor is using her. Saying that they can't be shipped because they have a "family" dynamic is unrealistic.
@@melonpeach9723 Did you skip over the second half of my comment about Charlie seeing him that way, or at least as someone who is trying to be a parental figure? Whether or not Alastor was being genuine (I agree that he wasn't) doesn't change that Charlie buys it, meaning that's how she views him. 💀
Alastor is canonically aroace, meaning he wouldn't be interested in anyone at all, so he really shouldn't be shipped with anyone (that's called aroace erasure and it happens way too often in fandoms). I absolutely 100% see VOX having a thing for Alastor, but Alastor would not return those feelings. It's entirely one-sided. edit: also note how they point out Angel being gay but not Alastor being asexual :/
People in fandoms have ignored canon sexualities since forever, be it straight, gay, aroace or whatever, not to mention the author mentioned herself that fandom can ship however they want since it doesn't change canon.
I knew that Charlastor was gonna get the sink, but I'm not really upset about it. I ship it and I really like it, but it's very obviously a crackship. On the topic of Niffty, I really hope that Baxter will be introduced in Season 2 for a lot of reasons, but mostly because I ship him and Niffty. The two shorties deserve each other.
You should know how much I love the Lily x Lucifer couple. Yes, they haven't interacted in the series at the moment. So what? I still love the dynamics of such pairs. I really want this apple family to be happy. Come on, Viv. Well, what should you do? It is worth noting that throughout the series, these two are referred to as "separated", not "divorced". Also, even in the absence of Lilith these 7 years, Lucifer still wears an engagement ring, so on his part, marital love is quite strong.
Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:33 Rules 0:47 Charlie x Vaggie: Ship It 1:32 Husk x Angel Dust: Ship It 2:47 Zestial x Carmilla: 5-Star Cruise 3:18 Vox x Valentino: Swim 4:07 Vox x Velvette: Sink 4:37 Charlie x Alastor: Sink 5:28 Lucifer x Adam: Shipwreck 6:03 Lucifer x Alastor: Swim 6:41 Alastor x Vox: Sink 7:26 Kate Killjoy x Tom Trench: Ship 8:02 Cherri x Angel Dust: Sink 8:27 Cherri x Sir Pentious: 5-Star Cruise 9:09 Niffty x Husk: Sink 9:42 Lute x Adam: Swim 10:13 Lilith x Lucifer: Sail
For me, every ship that includes Alastor is a sink to the center of the earth. First bc of the aroace erasure. And, I've already heard too much of "aroace people can still date" yes, that's totally true and valid, I say that as a demisexual and demiromantic. But please, being realistic, in the show and canon, Alastor doesn't even have a 0.1% chance of dating anyone. You just have to know his character. Yes, AUs exist. Yes, there's freedom of shipping. Yes, you can enjoy it "without harming anyone" (it's still aroace erasure). But no, there's no chance for an Alastor ship to become real in the actual show.
Charlie and Vaggie's relationship should definitely sail, these two are really adorable together! Vox and Valentino's relationship should swim because Val is pretty abusive, but he and Vox had at least some chemistry from what we saw in the show. Angel and Husk along with Sir Pentious and Cherri Bomb's relationship should sail because after Angel and Husk sang Loser, Baby they grew closer together and support each other. Sir Pentious and Cherri Bomb are great together even though they battled in the Pilot, however they grew closer in the final battle and if Cherri Bomb does get redeemed, maybe she'll reunite with Sir Pentious in Heaven. Plus can we see more of Carmilla and Zestial's relationship, please? Also if anyone ships Angel Dust and Valentino, then you are out of your mind!😍🤢💘💔
I mean he's been in hell for over 100 years and likely died around his thirties so he's technically around 130-140 years old chronologically still younger than Charlie though
I would love to see a scene where Vaggie lets Charlie sleep on her lap after Charlie has an emotional breakdown Vaggie would sing you are my sunshine while Charlie is asleep
If I was a writer, this would be my answer. I have canon sexualities/identities/whatever for characters, but do whatever you want with them in fan works. Just don't expect of me to approve of them or care about them.@@mydumblife8067
Tbh Charlastor is a fanon ship and I personally ship alastor and Charlie because they are so cute with their dynamic. But it’s fanon ship, not canon, fanon.
Correction Stayed Gone was when Alastor proceeded to give a 1 sided beat down on Vox while Vox struggles to deal with active competition and Alastor desirables Vox's power and signal entirely
My working theory on Lucifer x Lilith is that they are still in love. But that the reason they are separated is due to a combination of things. Ok hear me out (TM). We have been getting a lot of mixed signals from Viv about Lilith. She has been kept under wraps and all the visual cues we get are tinted ominously. Her singing to Hell graphic is tinted heavy with flames. Her taking Charlie away from Lucifer. But I think these are misdirects. Because all of the stories we hear about her from Charlie represent her as compassionate and fighting to bring Hell together as a community. Charlie sees her as the compassionate parent that was there for her through her childhood. Lucifer was lost in his depression and had lost all faith and hope in Humanity. So recontextualize the Imagery of Lilith with this understanding. Thus Lilith singing to Hell is still her trying to rally Hell. And yeah its going to be red tinged she's in Hell. The scene with her taking Charlie needs to consider that Charlie was entranced by the story of her fathers dreams. Who do you think told her those stories. Lucifer is broken and depressed about his dreams failing as hard as they did. He is not going to bring it up. Lilith shared the dreams with Charlie. And then when Charlie got time to play with her father, which he adored, she would ask him about his dreams. And as someone that has struggled with deep depression that sort of conversation can be devastating. Lucifer would likely not be able to deny Charlie and thus he would have to crash straight into his nightmare. Thus Lilith would enter and gently take Charlie away so that Lucifer could go back to trying to pull himself out of the pit of depression. This was an act of mercy and compassion from Lilith. So Lilith had picked up the dream that Lucifer had. She had not given up on Humanity and was trying to bring the people of Hell together. Charlie even mentions that her idea of the Hotel was a continuation of her mother's fight. Lilith had been fighting for Hell all along. So what happened? So in trying to bring the people of Hell together she was met with pushback. Heaven obviously saw it as a threat. Sera afraid of the Demons finding out they have no idea how Heaven works must have terrified her. Sera definitely has severe imposter syndrome and lives in dread of everyone finding out. But the opposition by Heaven was more remote. She obviously met opposition more locally. The more predatory Overlords would see Hell coming together as a community as a threat to their accumulation of power. People unified are not as easy to prey upon. So the worst of the Overlords pushed back against her attempts. Without Lucifer supporting her endeavors she needed some muscle. This is where she tagged Alastor in. Alastor's MO of serial predation in life seems to have been somewhat Dexteresque. He preyed upon people he considered uncivil. Still evil to the core but he only ate other evil. So when Alastor's soul landed in Hell Lilith approached him and offered to boost his power substantially in exchange for his soul. She charged him with removing the problematic Overlords. That Zestial and Carmilla remain shows that Demons that show signs of empathy and compassion were not targeted by Alastor. Tension remains between them. But there is a truce. And then the Vees showed up. Oddly boosted in power similar to Alastor they quickly rose in the ranks of the Overlords. But when Alastor went to confront Vox he met his match. It must have been close because Vox is not interested in a rematch. But it was this that sent Alastor into retreat for 7 years. This left Lilith exposed. And this is when Heaven struck. They sent Adam backed by the exterminators to deal with Lilith any way he thought would work. But he had his own agenda. An ego the size of his could not stand that Lilith turned her back on him. So he told Hells power couple that unless Lilith joined him in Heaven he would turn Heaven's military loose on Hell and specifically target young Charlie. Charlie is the only thing that still meant anything to Lucifer. And Lilith is of course a loving mother. And they had no idea how to defeat the Angels at the time. So of course they gave in. The deal was struck that no Hellborn citizens would be targeted by Heaven's armies and Lilith went with Adam to be his pet in Heaven. Thus when Adam died Lute in a rage went to Lilith and told her that the deal was over and Charlie now had a target on her back. If Lilith wanted to save Charlie she would have to return to Hell and talk her down from any further action. And this is where the current lore ends. Season 2 will see Lilith return to Hell initially as a foil to Charlie. Trying to talk her out of her plans. But because they are a continuation of Lilith's original plans Charlie will be able to win her over. Charlie sucks at connecting to sinners. She just has too much of a gap in life experience. She is a sheltered princess and they are people that have fallen to the depths of Hell and are tormented in no small part by their own emotional damage. She just cannot break through. But she does provide hope and a safe place. What Charlie offers is sanctuary and the expectation that people can get better. But to maintain that Sanctuary you need to be able to defend it. Thus Charlie has to do the very thing Husk pointed out she is afraid to do. She had to deal with her own problems. And those are that she has not accepted her position or power. Thus Lilith and Lucifer together again will guide Charlie on a path of understanding her power and how she can protect those she cares for. So this is my current theory of how and why Lilith X Lucifer is still a thing. I am pretty sure it fits the current narrative being put out by Viv. Including the twist I think she has in play for what gets a person into Heaven. I think it is mental well being. Sir Pentious was dealing with crippling social anxiety. And it was his journey to overcome it and express his feelings to Cherri that clinched it for him. Well that and an act or true altruism. But compared to others in Hell his was a fairly straight shot to overcome. And Charlie's Hotel was the ideal place for him to find his way. She is going to heal her father, there will be stumbles along the way. And she is going to reunite her parents. And rainbow sprinkles for everyone.
2:24 I really wonna see friendship. I think it be out of character for both of them to go any further and I d already find their dynamic genius. Don’t change that.
fun fact, charlie is actually older than alastor, shes over 200 years old while alastor is closer to 120 years old, which makes him the 3-4th oldest member of the main cast (not counting lucifer)
Yeah Ada x Lute Definently deserve a 5 star Cruise rating in my opinion. Hopefully Lute's arc in the future can shed some more context on their relationship.
There's one other ship I don't hear some people talking about and it got me thinking of it and that's Charlie X Emily. Ever since their first interaction to each other they have some similarities to each other that could be almost sister like but not really. And the idea of the 2 of them being together could unite both hell & heaven into 1 if possible but I don't know. Does anyone else believe that or sink,sail or ship it!?
Ships: 0:50 Charlie x Vaggie 1:37 Husk x Angel Dust 2:50 Zestial x Carmilla 3:24 Vox x Valentino 4:11 Vox x Velvette 4:41 Charlie x Alastor 5:30 Lucifer x Adam 6:09 Lucifer x Alastor (my life) 6:56 Alastor x Vox 7:30 Katie Killjoy x Tom 8:06 Cherri x Angel Dust 8:37 Cherri x Sir Pentious 9:12 Niffty x Husk 9:45 Lute x Adam 10:16 Lilith x Lucifer
6:58 Something I like about this ship and have been seeing a lot of more recently is where the ship is actually one sided on Vox's end and was aware of Alastor being asexual or aroace but when Alastor rejected the offer to join Vox basically took it as he was down right rejected him and is why he's so mad at Alastor whether or not who would still love him if this is canon would also be very interesting because it's obvious he's obsessed with him from spying on him and keeping a photo of him so I could say it would still be somewhat there but I'm fine with it if it's not canon at all
Vox brings the best out of Valentino, which is not much better than his normal self. the scenes of them together makes Val tolerable in the moment. evil besties with benefits
I love Charlie and Alastor as a father and daughter dynamic and nothing else, he literally says: “I care for you like the daughter I never had” “It’s funny, you could almost call me dad”
@@KaizoCPFC meh, I just like the protector bad boy charmer with the innocent good girl dynamic. But yeah on the side I do like Dilfs so there's that as a plus.
actually charlie is 200 years old but alastor is abot 80 years old(in hell age) plus if we factor alastor being a ace in a hole charlie is bi so i gonna make this one swim plus alastor said those lines in hells greatest dad to just mock lucifer and he dident meant them
1:37, uhh, I shipped Husk and Angel too...but Husk died in his 60's and Angel died in his 30's, and now I'm aggressively trying to find the year both of them were born in so I don't feel weird shipping it
they both def spent enough time in hell to kinda equalize their ages... like it's less difference between 130 and 160 (just example im too lazy to count relative to them) than 30 and 60
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Please, please, PLEEEEEEASE do Which Pokémon Would DreamWorks Heroes Choose!
I just want DreamWorks x Pokémon to be fair, because the heroes of DreamWorks needs a Pokémon team too.
Please do a video on Total drama adult jokes
@@leighanneslegoproduction353 while we’re at it, let’s also do Disney and Pixar protagonists/heroes (I bet five dollars that Osmosis Jones/ basically Dave from Pahkitew Island would get a sobble for….. reasons)
“Don’t get me wrong we love Vox as a character, and Val….uh… WE LOVE VOX AS A CHARACTER” that killed me 💀
Same came down here just to type about that and I saw this comment
YEAH SAME LOLL
The worst part is that Val's audios are based on real audios Viv's ex sent her, so we really do love Vox as a character!!
@@YourMuseBillCipherreally? I didn't know that
I feel the exact same way
When he mentioned that there was an age gap with Charlie and Alastor, I’m like, “You do realize Charlie’s like WAY older than him, right?”
Agreed. I think at one point it was mentioned she's 200 in human years. But, given that demons age slowly, lot of fans treat her like she's in her 20s mentally. Sorta like a 10 human years is 1 demon year for her.
Even if Charlie is like 20 mentally. Alastor died at his 30s. It's still NOT father-daughter age gap. SUPER weird.
It's even weirder because there haven't been mass howls of age gap about 99.99% of every popular vampire media ever produced, from Bram Stoker-Buffy-Vampire Diaries-Twilight etc.
@@Rinzeki02I think alastor is in his late 30s
That would the relationship with Charlie and Vaggie worse, since didn’t was sent to hell like a decade ago.
I'm shipping Sir Pentious with Cherri.... errr because I'm shipping Sir Pentious with EVERYONE!
gold.
LMAO
Nice one
This wins the internet for the whole of next week, absolute GOLD. Bravo 🎉❤
Pure fucking comedy gold
"WE love Vox as a character!!!! and Val- ....WE LOVE VOX AS A CHARACTER" fr . I like Val ,but not when he's abusing Angel ..
That was just THE mood, especially since Vox is my second favorite
I actually prefer Val to Vox. I love him in any scene where he’s not abusing Angel. Even him being a creep towards Charlie, disgusting as it is.
When you start to feel a little bad for the villain because of who they have to put up with, thats when you know that person royally screwed up.
@@DuncanMaisonneuve-kk3vf Tbf, Val is amazingly written, and is a great character. I'd def don't like him, but kudos for being so hated
True @@DuncanMaisonneuve-kk3vf
I think it's plausible that Vox has a crush on Alastor, and he just can't accept the rejection and of the show ever implies as much, I will yell out I KNEW IT!
maybe not crush, more like obsession
Staticradio maybe?
Vivziepop actually confirmed angel dust × husk she said it's just a slow burn for them.
WOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH BABY THATS WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT WOOOOO
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Wait really when
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Adam and Lute deserve each other and a 5-star cruise ship, and you can't tell me otherwise
I hope Adam will come back as a demon. His first wife left him for another man. His second wife probably left him after the story of the apple. But I think that Lute will leave Paradise to stay with him. She will be the first woman in his life that never leave him.
agreeeedd i hope he comes back as a sinner
@maratessari2974 yes please let this happen
@@BloodMoon-jd1fk I hope it will happen 🤞🤞 In that case we'll have two couples formed by an angel and a demon: Sir Pentious, a redeemed demon turned into an angel, and Cherry Bomb, a demon, next Adam, a fallen angel turned into a demon, and Lute, an angel. It would be interesting. But, for now, we don't know... 😔
@@maratessari2974 AND Charlie and Vaggie.
Considering Alastor is canonically Asexual, I don't see Alastor being in a relationship. I get why he is shipped eith like half of the cast, I got to respect his status as asexual.
He’s asexual not aromantic
(But idk bout that though so….)
@@Cosmickaiju-808 I did hear that he was aromatic as well but it sounds like Vizipop is retracting that statement. Don't quote me on that though.
Hes an aroace and guess what aroace can still be in relationships or queerplatonic relationships. To think that they cant be in relationships is disrespectful
ace people can still have romantic relationships as well. but he is ace *and* aro so its very unlikely he would enter a relationship
Unlikely, but not impossible
Carmila and Zestial have something going on and no one can tell me otherwise
Oh i believe you 100%
I at first seem to have not paid enough attention the first time I watched the episode because only by the second viewing did I even notice they weren't a couple even though iirc Carmilla deadass calls him a friend.
These two are in the top tier with HuskerDust Chaggie and (Insert the ship name of Cherri x Sir Pentious) and (Insert the ship name of Lilith x Lucifer)
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@@BloodMoon-jd1fk Cherrisnake and (insert name of Lilith x Lucifer)
Vox has a one sided crush on Alastor and you can’t change my mind..
YESSS SPEAKIN TRUTH.
alastor is aroace and vox is a disaster bi fr.
*He WHAT?! Alright, I’m disappearing again.*
PREACH, PREACH MY FRIEND!! Radiosilence is the ship name for one sided Vox x Alastor btw
No. Just no. I love vox but i seriously doubt this
@@Vexcited_like the book?
The last plot point was GOLD. It's complicated, and beautiful, and doesn't villainize EITHER SIDE!!! Antagonize one-another, but does not turn either side into out-and-out bad guys. It would be a REFRESHING change in Viv's series. I doubt we're going to be supposed to hate Lilith, at least not like we hate Vox or... Stolas' screeching ex-wife.
Also I LOVE to hate Val.
For the Lucifer X Adam one was hilarious because of this one sentence
"You mess with my daughter and now I'm going to FUCK YOU 😏" that sentence that alone is what started it
LMAO THAT IS SO TRUE
Well this just got interesting 😊😊😊
fun fact: The ship name between Lucifer and Adam is “Adam’sApple.”
thats the cutest ship name ever wtf
Why is it always the crack ships with the phenomenal top tier names 😂😭 like the other day I found out the ship name for Lucifer and Vox is ‘AppleTV’ ITS SO CREATIVE AND FOR WHAT!? 💀
PLEASE rank all the Habzin Hotel songs from Season 1!
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Yes
Y E S!!!
Nah..from season 3-
OF COURSE OF SEASON 1
3:41
"We love Vox as a character!"
"And Val......mmm...."
"And we love Vox as a character!"
why u love Vox so much
Vox is a great character with a great voice
Val kinda sucks tbh
@@AlwayzHazbin ik, I love him too (not in a simp way) but bro has an OBSESSION
I cant ship val and vox bro i just hate val 2 much, vox deserves better :3
Vox is funny as hell in the two episodes he spoke in in and Val (who was the vee who was in the most episodes. “great”) yeah no one likes him
Huskerdust was pretty much confirmed to be a thing long ago, just a slow one- first Angel would become Husk's best friend and then they would hit it off.
I need that
THANK YOU!
Do The Owl House Ships: Sink, Swim or Sail!
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I agree
Y E S
If they do that, Lumity better get the 5 star cruise.
@@DuncanMaisonneuve-kk3vf no they deserve a cosmic space cruise that only the richest of humans can afford
Adam and Lute are honestly my favorite ship on the show. It sucks what happened to Adam, but right now I’m just on copium that he’ll come back as a sinner, even if I know that’s unlikely.
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT 😭🙏
Tbh they r the best ship! I honestly like them more than chaggie mainly bc Lute x Adam feel slightly more realistic
Wasn't Adam married? I mean, he's talking about his wife in 1st episode.
@@commonlyfakeq7349 lilith and eve are both his exes
I’m surprised that they included (almost) ALL the ships
no they didn't, they didn't even MENTION Alastor x Rosie
Also, they forgot RadioDust(Alastor x Angel). Yes, I know Alastor is asexual and I think also aromantic. But I feel like him and Angel would be cute together. Like, in a different universe of the show, not necessarily the one we're watching. I'm not saying this is what needs to happen in the actual show. Just my personal opinion.
@@morganann7759Alastors VA Said He Mispoke About Him Being Aromantic,I Headcanon He’s On The Aromantic Spectrum But Can Still Feel Some Romantic Attraction,I Love Radiodust Too But You Can Headcanon Him As Greyromantic Or Something To Make It Ok :D
There is a age gap. But not in the way you think Charlie is actually. 200+ years old You know , being the princess of hell , and all
The thing that got me on board for Zestial and Carmilla was her looking right at him when she said “I’ll keep you safe” during Whatever It Takes.
Fr
7:13 I think it went like this
Vox: hey Alastor can we be partners in love
Alastor: nope
Vox: business?
Alastor: you wish
Alastor died in the 1930's at age 30-40. Assuming the show takes place in the present (2024), Al is at least 120 in real time.
10:04 oh no, this is my favorite ship in the whole show, and I want this on a 5 star cruise.
I Ship It,But I Kinda Don’t Bc Female And Male Characters Should Be Allowed To Be Friends Without Getting Shipped,They’re Silly :3
@@Anna-hy4sb true, but when i say ship, I do mean more than romantic. Adam and Lute for me approaches several other character groups where id want a story just from their perspective, romantic or not. thats why i want to see more about them, doesn't have to be romantic.
to a lesse extent im like that with Angel and Husk. if they take on a more mentor, Mentee friend/familial role I am all in on that.
5:08 Charlie also being approximately 80 years older than him
For beings that were alive (kinda) well over a century such age gap wouldn't matter.
IRL age gap matters because of a) experiences people been through and b) people aging biologically.
It’s Hell So Age Gaps Don’t Really Matter Because Most Of Them Are Decades Old
Age gap, hahahaha oh that’s funny, Charlie is canonically 200 years old even if alastors been in hell for 100 years he’s still not as old as Charlie
She looks and behaves like she is ~25 and Alastor like he is in late 30-ies
Right?! I ship it! Chalastor ship will float! ❤
@@Linkfan007OH hell nah
1:50 I feel like people have forgotten what a good friendship can look like.
9:00 Those are eyes, not kiss marks.
Alastor does NOT see Charlie as a daughter, you all need to be for real. They don’t seem like a family dynamic at all, and y’all constantly fall for his manipulation.
In all fairness, the audience falling for a sociopathic character's manipulations can mean that their manipulative tendencies are really, really well written. For instance, GLaDOS from Portal, who is manipulative and controlling and gave me Stockholm Syndrome right through the fourth wall.
...or, it could mean that the audience has the collective intelligence of a plastic spoon.
@@ceinwenchandler4716 LMFAOAO The plastic spoon part was it!! I think both are true in this case, Alastor is very well-written, and the audience also would think it’s true if any of the Vee’s said they were actually wanting to change.
You say that like him being a full on gaslighter and manipulator somehow makes the ship better lol.
That said, he may not believe it, but Charlie sees it that way. Or at the very least she believes that is what he is trying to do. So either way this is just another strike against a ship that was already at the bottom of the ocean.
@@ymir6286 When did I say that made the ship better?? I love the ship but it is undeniably toxic, and Alastor is using her. Saying that they can't be shipped because they have a "family" dynamic is unrealistic.
@@melonpeach9723 Did you skip over the second half of my comment about Charlie seeing him that way, or at least as someone who is trying to be a parental figure?
Whether or not Alastor was being genuine (I agree that he wasn't) doesn't change that Charlie buys it, meaning that's how she views him.
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Alastor is canonically aroace, meaning he wouldn't be interested in anyone at all, so he really shouldn't be shipped with anyone (that's called aroace erasure and it happens way too often in fandoms). I absolutely 100% see VOX having a thing for Alastor, but Alastor would not return those feelings. It's entirely one-sided.
edit: also note how they point out Angel being gay but not Alastor being asexual :/
They do point out that Alastor is asexual when Rosie called him "An ace in the hole" (Ace = Asexual)
People in fandoms have ignored canon sexualities since forever, be it straight, gay, aroace or whatever, not to mention the author mentioned herself that fandom can ship however they want since it doesn't change canon.
All of the Al ships I just can’t help but think “they work SO MUCH better as friends/enemies than lovers”
Best part for sure was,”Val… we love to see boxes character”
My favorite ships from this show:
Charlie X Vaggie
Vox/Valentino
Husker X Angel Dust
And then Cherrisnake 😊
HAPPYFALLENANGEL
STATICMOTH
ABUSEDCIDER
AND
CHERRISNAKE???!?’
You had the perfect opportunity to talk about Alastor x Rosie after not including them in your Healthy to Toxic video, and you threw it away.
Oh yeah I love that pair too!
Seriously, Radiorose is everything idc ♡
I knew that Charlastor was gonna get the sink, but I'm not really upset about it. I ship it and I really like it, but it's very obviously a crackship.
On the topic of Niffty, I really hope that Baxter will be introduced in Season 2 for a lot of reasons, but mostly because I ship him and Niffty. The two shorties deserve each other.
"Don't get me wrong, we love Vox as a character, and Val- uhh.. We love Vox as a character!"
3:41 LMAO
You should know how much I love the Lily x Lucifer couple. Yes, they haven't interacted in the series at the moment. So what? I still love the dynamics of such pairs. I really want this apple family to be happy. Come on, Viv. Well, what should you do?
It is worth noting that throughout the series, these two are referred to as "separated", not "divorced". Also, even in the absence of Lilith these 7 years, Lucifer still wears an engagement ring, so on his part, marital love is quite strong.
Tangled the Series Characters: Good to Evil.
Yes. We need that.
YES
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:33 Rules
0:47 Charlie x Vaggie: Ship It
1:32 Husk x Angel Dust: Ship It
2:47 Zestial x Carmilla: 5-Star Cruise
3:18 Vox x Valentino: Swim
4:07 Vox x Velvette: Sink
4:37 Charlie x Alastor: Sink
5:28 Lucifer x Adam: Shipwreck
6:03 Lucifer x Alastor: Swim
6:41 Alastor x Vox: Sink
7:26 Kate Killjoy x Tom Trench: Ship
8:02 Cherri x Angel Dust: Sink
8:27 Cherri x Sir Pentious: 5-Star Cruise
9:09 Niffty x Husk: Sink
9:42 Lute x Adam: Swim
10:13 Lilith x Lucifer: Sail
5:13 Yeah, there is an age gap, in Charlie’s favour, she’s like thousands of years old
just one note on shipping velvette with vox feels almost criminal in my eyes, because she has referred to him and valentino as her dads
For me, every ship that includes Alastor is a sink to the center of the earth.
First bc of the aroace erasure.
And, I've already heard too much of "aroace people can still date" yes, that's totally true and valid, I say that as a demisexual and demiromantic.
But please, being realistic, in the show and canon, Alastor doesn't even have a 0.1% chance of dating anyone.
You just have to know his character.
Yes, AUs exist. Yes, there's freedom of shipping. Yes, you can enjoy it "without harming anyone" (it's still aroace erasure).
But no, there's no chance for an Alastor ship to become real in the actual show.
Baxter X nifty: 5 star cruise
I just realized everyone in this show only has four fingers 💀
It's cannon information that vox and val have an off and on relation ship
Charlie and Vaggie's relationship should definitely sail, these two are really adorable together! Vox and Valentino's relationship should swim because Val is pretty abusive, but he and Vox had at least some chemistry from what we saw in the show. Angel and Husk along with Sir Pentious and Cherri Bomb's relationship should sail because after Angel and Husk sang Loser, Baby they grew closer together and support each other. Sir Pentious and Cherri Bomb are great together even though they battled in the Pilot, however they grew closer in the final battle and if Cherri Bomb does get redeemed, maybe she'll reunite with Sir Pentious in Heaven. Plus can we see more of Carmilla and Zestial's relationship, please? Also if anyone ships Angel Dust and Valentino, then you are out of your mind!😍🤢💘💔
Alastor seeing Charlie as a daughter figure A DAUGHTER FIGURE.CHARLIE IS 200+ AND ALASTOR IS 40
I mean he's been in hell for over 100 years and likely died around his thirties so he's technically around 130-140 years old chronologically still younger than Charlie though
Me personally I think vaggie and charlie should be a 5 star cruise since there dating in the show
I would love to see a scene where Vaggie lets Charlie sleep on her lap after Charlie has an emotional breakdown
Vaggie would sing you are my sunshine while Charlie is asleep
Charlie is a lot older then alastor
There ya go! So the ship works and it should float dammit! ❤
This is my answer to any Alastor ship: He's aromantic and aroace.
We know but that doesn’t stop fanon. Viv said we can ship whatever we want because it won’t change what she has going on in the story.
If I was a writer, this would be my answer. I have canon sexualities/identities/whatever for characters, but do whatever you want with them in fan works. Just don't expect of me to approve of them or care about them.@@mydumblife8067
What about Radio x Alastor? Theres a leak he kissed the radio 🥶 /j
What about Alastor x Jambalaya?
@@certifiedbrickbattler straight up marry
Once again we need a Murder Drones one…(and I guess The Amazing Digital Circus…as well…)
Tbh Charlastor is a fanon ship and I personally ship alastor and Charlie because they are so cute with their dynamic. But it’s fanon ship, not canon, fanon.
Hazbin is great
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Correction Stayed Gone was when Alastor proceeded to give a 1 sided beat down on Vox while Vox struggles to deal with active competition and Alastor desirables Vox's power and signal entirely
Remember, Nifty once said she liked being forced
PLEASE do a weak to powerful for Hazbin Hotel next.
I thought he already did.
3:42 He was absolutely right!
The only Niffty ship I approve of is Niffty × Baxter
i am really glad this show gets love we need more shows that are fun snd actually talk about things that most people don’t. 0:10
Amazing video!! ❤
Thank you!
@@WickedBinge Do you think you'll do Hazbin Hotel Characters: Weak to Powerful? And maybe you'll do some Helluva Boss videos as well?
What ever happened to a plain old bromance?
My working theory on Lucifer x Lilith is that they are still in love. But that the reason they are separated is due to a combination of things. Ok hear me out (TM). We have been getting a lot of mixed signals from Viv about Lilith. She has been kept under wraps and all the visual cues we get are tinted ominously. Her singing to Hell graphic is tinted heavy with flames. Her taking Charlie away from Lucifer. But I think these are misdirects. Because all of the stories we hear about her from Charlie represent her as compassionate and fighting to bring Hell together as a community. Charlie sees her as the compassionate parent that was there for her through her childhood. Lucifer was lost in his depression and had lost all faith and hope in Humanity.
So recontextualize the Imagery of Lilith with this understanding. Thus Lilith singing to Hell is still her trying to rally Hell. And yeah its going to be red tinged she's in Hell. The scene with her taking Charlie needs to consider that Charlie was entranced by the story of her fathers dreams. Who do you think told her those stories. Lucifer is broken and depressed about his dreams failing as hard as they did. He is not going to bring it up. Lilith shared the dreams with Charlie. And then when Charlie got time to play with her father, which he adored, she would ask him about his dreams. And as someone that has struggled with deep depression that sort of conversation can be devastating. Lucifer would likely not be able to deny Charlie and thus he would have to crash straight into his nightmare. Thus Lilith would enter and gently take Charlie away so that Lucifer could go back to trying to pull himself out of the pit of depression. This was an act of mercy and compassion from Lilith.
So Lilith had picked up the dream that Lucifer had. She had not given up on Humanity and was trying to bring the people of Hell together. Charlie even mentions that her idea of the Hotel was a continuation of her mother's fight. Lilith had been fighting for Hell all along. So what happened?
So in trying to bring the people of Hell together she was met with pushback. Heaven obviously saw it as a threat. Sera afraid of the Demons finding out they have no idea how Heaven works must have terrified her. Sera definitely has severe imposter syndrome and lives in dread of everyone finding out. But the opposition by Heaven was more remote. She obviously met opposition more locally. The more predatory Overlords would see Hell coming together as a community as a threat to their accumulation of power. People unified are not as easy to prey upon. So the worst of the Overlords pushed back against her attempts. Without Lucifer supporting her endeavors she needed some muscle. This is where she tagged Alastor in. Alastor's MO of serial predation in life seems to have been somewhat Dexteresque. He preyed upon people he considered uncivil. Still evil to the core but he only ate other evil. So when Alastor's soul landed in Hell Lilith approached him and offered to boost his power substantially in exchange for his soul. She charged him with removing the problematic Overlords. That Zestial and Carmilla remain shows that Demons that show signs of empathy and compassion were not targeted by Alastor. Tension remains between them. But there is a truce.
And then the Vees showed up. Oddly boosted in power similar to Alastor they quickly rose in the ranks of the Overlords. But when Alastor went to confront Vox he met his match. It must have been close because Vox is not interested in a rematch. But it was this that sent Alastor into retreat for 7 years. This left Lilith exposed. And this is when Heaven struck. They sent Adam backed by the exterminators to deal with Lilith any way he thought would work. But he had his own agenda. An ego the size of his could not stand that Lilith turned her back on him. So he told Hells power couple that unless Lilith joined him in Heaven he would turn Heaven's military loose on Hell and specifically target young Charlie. Charlie is the only thing that still meant anything to Lucifer. And Lilith is of course a loving mother. And they had no idea how to defeat the Angels at the time. So of course they gave in. The deal was struck that no Hellborn citizens would be targeted by Heaven's armies and Lilith went with Adam to be his pet in Heaven.
Thus when Adam died Lute in a rage went to Lilith and told her that the deal was over and Charlie now had a target on her back. If Lilith wanted to save Charlie she would have to return to Hell and talk her down from any further action. And this is where the current lore ends.
Season 2 will see Lilith return to Hell initially as a foil to Charlie. Trying to talk her out of her plans. But because they are a continuation of Lilith's original plans Charlie will be able to win her over. Charlie sucks at connecting to sinners. She just has too much of a gap in life experience. She is a sheltered princess and they are people that have fallen to the depths of Hell and are tormented in no small part by their own emotional damage. She just cannot break through. But she does provide hope and a safe place. What Charlie offers is sanctuary and the expectation that people can get better. But to maintain that Sanctuary you need to be able to defend it. Thus Charlie has to do the very thing Husk pointed out she is afraid to do. She had to deal with her own problems. And those are that she has not accepted her position or power. Thus Lilith and Lucifer together again will guide Charlie on a path of understanding her power and how she can protect those she cares for.
So this is my current theory of how and why Lilith X Lucifer is still a thing. I am pretty sure it fits the current narrative being put out by Viv. Including the twist I think she has in play for what gets a person into Heaven. I think it is mental well being. Sir Pentious was dealing with crippling social anxiety. And it was his journey to overcome it and express his feelings to Cherri that clinched it for him. Well that and an act or true altruism. But compared to others in Hell his was a fairly straight shot to overcome. And Charlie's Hotel was the ideal place for him to find his way. She is going to heal her father, there will be stumbles along the way. And she is going to reunite her parents. And rainbow sprinkles for everyone.
It's amazing! I like your version. I believe Lilith still loves and cares for her family. How they want their family to be happy.
I think the main reason Alastor said no to joining the Vees was because he didnt want to change his name to Valastor 😂😂😂
Oh deer 😮
@@tuannguyen4809 🤣
Me thinking how to fandom guessed that Vaggie is a fallen angel: 😮😮😮😮 ❓❓❓❓❓⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️❗️❗️❓❓
Oh come on, Vaggie is only shipped with Charlie and nobody else, do people really hate her that much?
Actually Charlie and Vaggie are girlfriends. They had a passionate kiss in episode 8 aka season finale of the Hazbin Hotel 1st season.
I believe originally the v’s did have a poly thing going on, back when velvette had a more manic doll thing going on
I was chanting huskerdust like crazy 2:10😂
I want more of these kind of videos
Why lol
im just gonna say if the show takes place during 2024 or late 2023 then Alastor would only be around 110 (from memory) while Charlie is 200 years old
2:24 I really wonna see friendship. I think it be out of character for both of them to go any further and I d already find their dynamic genius. Don’t change that.
fun fact, charlie is actually older than alastor, shes over 200 years old while alastor is closer to 120 years old, which makes him the 3-4th oldest member of the main cast (not counting lucifer)
“we love Vox as a character”
“and Val-“
“we love Vox as a character”
9:01 I thought those were eyes but that makes sense now They honestly deserve an 18 million star cruise.
Can you please do Rango Characters: Good to Evil? We need that one ASAP!
Yeah Ada x Lute Definently deserve a 5 star Cruise rating in my opinion. Hopefully Lute's arc in the future can shed some more context on their relationship.
There's one other ship I don't hear some people talking about and it got me thinking of it and that's Charlie X Emily.
Ever since their first interaction to each other they have some similarities to each other that could be almost sister like but not really. And the idea of the 2 of them being together could unite both hell & heaven into 1 if possible but I don't know.
Does anyone else believe that or sink,sail or ship it!?
Ships:
0:50 Charlie x Vaggie
1:37 Husk x Angel Dust
2:50 Zestial x Carmilla
3:24 Vox x Valentino
4:11 Vox x Velvette
4:41 Charlie x Alastor
5:30 Lucifer x Adam
6:09 Lucifer x Alastor (my life)
6:56 Alastor x Vox
7:30 Katie Killjoy x Tom
8:06 Cherri x Angel Dust
8:37 Cherri x Sir Pentious
9:12 Niffty x Husk
9:45 Lute x Adam
10:16 Lilith x Lucifer
2:34 My wallpaper and LIFE is HUSKERDUST😤 NO ONE CAN TELL ME WRONG NO MATTER WHAT🤬
There is also Emily and Saint Peter ship! And it sails)
3:41
“Don’t get me wrong, we love Vox as a character, and Val… uhh- We love Vox as a character-“
LMAO THIS IS 100% SOMETHING I WOULD SAY
Chaggie and Huskerdust are my favorite💕. Please do Helluva Boss Ships, it would be so interesting
Hear me out:
I honestly love the idea of charlie, vaggie, and emily becoming a throuple. They even have the perfect fan ship name. "Charlie's Angels"
6:58 Something I like about this ship and have been seeing a lot of more recently is where the ship is actually one sided on Vox's end and was aware of Alastor being asexual or aroace but when Alastor rejected the offer to join Vox basically took it as he was down right rejected him and is why he's so mad at Alastor whether or not who would still love him if this is canon would also be very interesting because it's obvious he's obsessed with him from spying on him and keeping a photo of him so I could say it would still be somewhat there but I'm fine with it if it's not canon at all
Vox brings the best out of Valentino, which is not much better than his normal self. the scenes of them together makes Val tolerable in the moment. evil besties with benefits
Which hazbin hotel characters would survive squid game
I love Charlie and Alastor as a father and daughter dynamic and nothing else, he literally says:
“I care for you like the daughter I never had”
“It’s funny, you could almost call me dad”
Kinky lol❤
@@Linkfan007 what the hell
@@Linkfan007 father and daughter is romantic to you??
@@KaizoCPFC meh, I just like the protector bad boy charmer with the innocent good girl dynamic. But yeah on the side I do like Dilfs so there's that as a plus.
RADIOAPPLE IS SAILING FOR ME BABY!!!
Nifty has to find "the bad boy off her dreams" it would be so fun seeing it😂
I mean Alastor is aroace (I believe confirmed by both viv and the VA) so I just can't see him in any of the ships
You forgot RadioDust!!! You mentioned Alastor x Lucifer and Angel Dust x Husk, but you _left out_ RadioDust?! What the Hell?
1:00 he was a cannibal therefore hellborn
4:06 💀 what the actual-
val.....uh... we love vox how you didn't finish talking about Val killed me
Btw Charlie is over 200 years old and Vaggie is in her 20s
You should rank the songs worst to best
actually charlie is 200 years old but alastor is abot 80 years old(in hell age) plus if we factor alastor being a ace in a hole charlie is bi so i gonna make this one swim plus alastor said those lines in hells greatest dad to just mock lucifer and he dident meant them
1:37, uhh, I shipped Husk and Angel too...but Husk died in his 60's and Angel died in his 30's, and now I'm aggressively trying to find the year both of them were born in so I don't feel weird shipping it
they both def spent enough time in hell to kinda equalize their ages... like it's less difference between 130 and 160 (just example im too lazy to count relative to them) than 30 and 60
Thank you,@@somewhatdrunkguy THE SHIP SHALL LIVE ON IN PEACE 🥲🎉🎉
@@KassidyJKA always glad to help fellow shipper 😅
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Also, they were born _kind of_ around the same time, so their in-human life is no more than 10 years apart from each other. Angel just died earlier.
The fact that Rocarvette wasn’t mentioned is criminal. It’s the best ship ever
Was waiting for rosie and alastor seriously