what's insane is that if you replay the game and know where the end magnus is given, when you look at your inventory you see that the end magnus is gone right after the scene with Melodia
I remember this twist from back when I originally played the game. It really is 1 of those twists that sticks with you years later. It was so well done back then, it's amazing. Monolith Soft didn't do a twist near that level again until Xenoblade Chronicles 1, although they were a little more hinted at. I'm so glad Baten Kaitos finally got a remaster after 2 decades of obscurity. Now younger players can have this twist stick in their minds.
Played this game for the first time when the remaster released a couple of months ago, and oh my god this twist was absolutely incredible. The entire GAME was incredible! The story is one of the best in any RPG, and the music... Oh my god, the music. Cannot wait to get started on Baten Kaitos Origins!
What I really love about how this scene is played out is how Kalas looks like he is addressing you, the player, as if he was actually using you, the very person who has been playing the game.
I bought this game at Launch, and unfornetnly it took me 20 years to finally pick it up and really give it a proper go.....But recently just go to this Twist....WOW! That was great!
@@JeremazingShots Origins has much, much better voice acting than this game, and is worth playing if you have the time for it. If it's true that the remakes are only going to be Japanese voice only, you'll be missing out on some great voice acting.
Pretty genius to include the player as an actual participant and viewer in the game, for it to make sense that there’s someone/thing kalas is always acting for
Thanks for not saying that the slowly and smoothly enunciated voice of a possessed psychopathic heiress of a duchy of a land of cordial eccentrics donning carnival clothing, sounds horny. I'd never have thought I'd have to thank someone for that, until I came to these comments. PS I'm disappointed that unrealistic voice acting is considered fit for a stage, but not allowed in movies or video games. All, please see Star Wars, and better yet, many early "talkies". To you, thanks again.
@@almondjoy4938 It's true. As soon as I read my last line, I was told I collapsed like an accordion. I was rushed to the ER just in time for the doctors to unfold me. Tragically, it was too late to save my spine. Namco agreed to pay for an operation, but had spent all but $5 of the budget on my performance, and $1 on the rest of the game, leaving $4 for work related injury. So, they reused the metal pipe we recorded our voices through, stuck it up my ass, and shoved in the four crumpled bills like a cork. In a cruel twist of fate, Namco slipped a clause in my contract obligating me to spend the rest of my life commenting on Baten Kaitos related TH-cam videos. Wow! Just can't believe I was caught red handed. I really tried it, huh, but there's no way I could be someone who doesn't hate the voice acting. What was it that did me in? Was it perhaps that I can count to 9 so I had extra brainpower left over between battles? So I could remember a really obvious theme from an island that I spent more than 30 minutes on? And remember basic facts about a main character? Couldn't be a Baten Kaitos fan. Wish I had tried harder (not try at all) to blend in.
@@LMstan1989 I can't tell if you're simply playing along with my joke,being a smart-ass,or both. No matter who you happen to be,though,your response was pretty amusing. 😂
Ho gods, I'm glad I played that part with Kōsuke Toriumi's voice, thanks for the remaster being japanese voices only! 🙏 His voice was top notch considering this mindblowing moment, that I experienced for the first time
This game is underrated it’s by the same people that do xeno series so they can use that to sell a remaster if they need to. origins is my fav of the series tho
@@jetstreamgamingexa I liked Origins, but I feel they didn't answer all the questions and left some holes that I feel should have been filled, but maybe I missed something. Still loved it though.
The Baten Kaitos franchise was truly a unique and intelligent offering to gaming. I think more kids should get to play these types of games apart from the usual. Loved it as a young teen myself back in the mid 2000s.
I didnt liked Baten Kaitos that much, but holyshit this part Beats every betrayal in any videogame ive played, THE FUCKING PROTAGONIST, the Main character that YOU control Betrays You !!
When I had this years ago I had to take a break after being frustrated with giocomo, Ayame, and colon on the Goldoba so I never got here till I got the baten kaitos remaster. Just got to this last night but holy crap I did not see it coming. Also I forgot how silly the sun sounds lol.
The explanation is that since you, the player, are actually the spirit guardian, you don't hear voices how the in-game characters as people would hear them. You hear voices as if they were going through some dimensional filter.
yeah from what i understand they were trying to go for you the player aka the guardian spirit are watching the events of the story from another dimension and the reverb effect was intentional is just doesn't work well in hindsight.
Even for the time I remember this voice acting being bad. I think i played it not long after Tales of Symphonia. Felt like night and day difference in quality.
@@jetstreamgamingexa Trying in part to make it realistic within the environment as well. It was a weird choice in development. But I was all for it. Never minded it.
I played the game on the Switch in japanese, I think this is the only case I prefer the japanese, not only because I am used to it but I don't know, the voice acting in English is a bit weird 😅 But understanding without read is so good Kalas speaking looks like students reading texts in classroom
you really should consider changing this title, it's really spoiler-y and a total buzkill for newcomers to the games now that a remaster was announced.
It took me a lot of time to forgive him, to understand that (spoiler) He was being influenced by the End Magnus, I couldn't believe the party was still trying to save him, especially Xelha, but at the end of the game that made more sense when she explained. Great game!
I never thought I would actually prefer the Japanese voice acting, because even Xenoblade 2, I think the English is great, it is just that Rex dub is not as good as Shulk but still a good job overall. I would play Baten Kaitos in English if It had English on the remaster, (because I played the game knowing almost nothing about it) I won't say it is good they didn't bring back because there are people who might like it, and they should give you the option, but at least this way I could feel the emotion with the characters, playing with Japanese voices But the voice acting in the CGI scene before the game start is so good, if in game was like that I would love
I'm sorry that he's literally lost his mind with power that usually fries people's brains completely. You know, I just want to forget that only Fadroh, Geldoblame, and Kalas (all of whom spent a great deal of time killing people, manipulating people, and preparing themselves for this one thing) mentally survive. But please, by all means, keep attributing the disparity between the voices and animations, entirely to overacting. It's just not worth it to consider what might have been less awkward, if the animations had been more dramatic. (And sorry, but I'm an audiophile, so I have to disown the voices entirely despite the fact that a performance precedes its recording.) To be perfectly honest, I really just don't want to support any of the actors if I deem most to be bad. Oh wait... I'm just as overdramatic as the voices in this game huh. But I'll never realise that because I can't think my way out of a paper bag.
Would have thought someone with a username like 'nihilistic anarchist' would appreciate a twist that breaks conventional rules of storytelling and betrays your trust. Ironic.
what's insane is that if you replay the game and know where the end magnus is given, when you look at your inventory you see that the end magnus is gone right after the scene with Melodia
I remember this twist from back when I originally played the game. It really is 1 of those twists that sticks with you years later. It was so well done back then, it's amazing. Monolith Soft didn't do a twist near that level again until Xenoblade Chronicles 1, although they were a little more hinted at. I'm so glad Baten Kaitos finally got a remaster after 2 decades of obscurity. Now younger players can have this twist stick in their minds.
Played this game for the first time when the remaster released a couple of months ago, and oh my god this twist was absolutely incredible. The entire GAME was incredible! The story is one of the best in any RPG, and the music... Oh my god, the music. Cannot wait to get started on Baten Kaitos Origins!
Best scene ever
Look at my beauutifoool wiiiiirrrrngs!!
Imagine if the game stopped right there
LOL
Lol bad ending. Play the whole game again to only notice that there is no good ending.
What I really love about how this scene is played out is how Kalas looks like he is addressing you, the player, as if he was actually using you, the very person who has been playing the game.
This was a defining moment for me growing up. I did not see this twist coming
This game was amazing on the GameCube. They need to bring this back. Gibbari reminded me of Wakka from ffX.
I love this voice acting.
No one:
Me jumping off a jungle gym at a playground when I was a kid:
4:22
I HAVE ASSEMBLED ALL 5 PIECES OF EXODIA, YOUR GAME IS OVER
I bought this game at Launch, and unfornetnly it took me 20 years to finally pick it up and really give it a proper go.....But recently just go to this Twist....WOW! That was great!
I played it 10 years after its release, it became one of my fav RPG ever. The second game is really good too.
@@mielthesquid6536 I have a copy of that one too waiting to play...but with the Remasters announced this week.....maybe I'll wait
@@JeremazingShots Origins has much, much better voice acting than this game, and is worth playing if you have the time for it. If it's true that the remakes are only going to be Japanese voice only, you'll be missing out on some great voice acting.
@@KnightofDarkSorrow Yeah when I saw no English, decided I will play on gamecube lol
One of the best plot twist ever!!!
Pretty genius to include the player as an actual participant and viewer in the game, for it to make sense that there’s someone/thing kalas is always acting for
All the pieces were there from the beginning,and you never noticed them
The voice acting is so funny on this part. lmao but man the story is good af tho. A MUST PLAY JRPG guys.
I really like the fact that The Great Mizuti is chilling and having fun during a dramatic scene.
Still, the story is amazing.
Melodia's voice acting is on point to me.
Fits her manipulative personality well!
Thanks for not saying that the slowly and smoothly enunciated voice of a possessed psychopathic heiress of a duchy of a land of cordial eccentrics donning carnival clothing,
sounds horny.
I'd never have thought I'd have to thank someone for that, until I came to these comments.
PS I'm disappointed that unrealistic voice acting is considered fit for a stage, but not allowed in movies or video games. All, please see Star Wars, and better yet, many early "talkies".
To you, thanks again.
@@LMstan1989
Wait,are YOU the woman who did Melodia's voice?
Well-done if you are!
Did your back hurt from carrying that scene?
@@almondjoy4938 It's true. As soon as I read my last line, I was told I collapsed like an accordion. I was rushed to the ER just in time for the doctors to unfold me. Tragically, it was too late to save my spine. Namco agreed to pay for an operation, but had spent all but $5 of the budget on my performance, and $1 on the rest of the game, leaving $4 for work related injury. So, they reused the metal pipe we recorded our voices through, stuck it up my ass, and shoved in the four crumpled bills like a cork.
In a cruel twist of fate, Namco slipped a clause in my contract obligating me to spend the rest of my life commenting on Baten Kaitos related TH-cam videos.
Wow! Just can't believe I was caught red handed. I really tried it, huh, but there's no way I could be someone who doesn't hate the voice acting. What was it that did me in? Was it perhaps that I can count to 9 so I had extra brainpower left over between battles? So I could remember a really obvious theme from an island that I spent more than 30 minutes on? And remember basic facts about a main character?
Couldn't be a Baten Kaitos fan. Wish I had tried harder (not try at all) to blend in.
@@almondjoy4938 ☕
@@LMstan1989
I can't tell if you're simply playing along with my joke,being a smart-ass,or both.
No matter who you happen to be,though,your response was pretty amusing.
😂
Top ten anime betrayals
Me, these edibles ain’t shit, five minutes later 4:22
Ho gods, I'm glad I played that part with Kōsuke Toriumi's voice, thanks for the remaster being japanese voices only! 🙏
His voice was top notch considering this mindblowing moment, that I experienced for the first time
This was two betrayals simultaneously, the way they pulled this off was genius
Xelha kinda betrayed everyone too in that she was keeping her true identity secret
Still wish they made a anime out of this ones. Still consider this game my alltime favorite.
This game is underrated it’s by the same people that do xeno series so they can use that to sell a remaster if they need to. origins is my fav of the series tho
@@jetstreamgamingexa I liked Origins, but I feel they didn't answer all the questions and left some holes that I feel should have been filled, but maybe I missed something. Still loved it though.
This shit broke my heart!
The Baten Kaitos franchise was truly a unique and intelligent offering to gaming. I think more kids should get to play these types of games apart from the usual. Loved it as a young teen myself back in the mid 2000s.
Damn I never notice how bad the voice acting is
but this was the best plot twist
I'm...ACTING!
I didnt liked Baten Kaitos that much, but holyshit this part Beats every betrayal in any videogame ive played, THE FUCKING PROTAGONIST, the Main character that YOU control Betrays You !!
When I had this years ago I had to take a break after being frustrated with giocomo, Ayame, and colon on the Goldoba so I never got here till I got the baten kaitos remaster. Just got to this last night but holy crap I did not see it coming. Also I forgot how silly the sun sounds lol.
melodias voice..... and face s(layed) me lol!
I can't wait for Deltarune to steal this moment scene for scene.
Top 10 Videogame Betrayals: Number 1.
Man, the voice acting is so muffled, so bad
The explanation is that since you, the player, are actually the spirit guardian, you don't hear voices how the in-game characters as people would hear them. You hear voices as if they were going through some dimensional filter.
The whole dimensional filter thing is an entirely fan-made theory and not present in the video "Baten Kaitos on Dolphin Emulator 1080p" by Vortextk
Forgot how bad the voice acting was, holy hell.
what are you talking about man? look at his beautiful wings!
@@jetstreamgamingexa Even his beautiful wings don't hide the reverb in the shed they recorded all the dialogue in :P
yeah from what i understand they were trying to go for you the player aka the guardian spirit are watching the events of the story from another dimension and the reverb effect was intentional is just doesn't work well in hindsight.
Even for the time I remember this voice acting being bad. I think i played it not long after Tales of Symphonia. Felt like night and day difference in quality.
@@jetstreamgamingexa Trying in part to make it realistic within the environment as well. It was a weird choice in development. But I was all for it. Never minded it.
I played the game on the Switch in japanese, I think this is the only case I prefer the japanese, not only because I am used to it but I don't know, the voice acting in English is a bit weird 😅
But understanding without read is so good
Kalas speaking looks like students reading texts in classroom
you really should consider changing this title, it's really spoiler-y and a total buzkill for newcomers to the games now that a remaster was announced.
Your probably right
@@jetstreamgamingexa king 🙌
Pls change it 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Kalas sounds drunk as hell in this scene, especially 5:01
I want what kalas and geldablame had!
I will never forgive Kalas!
It took me a lot of time to forgive him, to understand that (spoiler)
He was being influenced by the End Magnus, I couldn't believe the party was still trying to save him, especially Xelha, but at the end of the game that made more sense when she explained. Great game!
Is there an option to mute the voice?
Fortunately yes lol
Yeah - it's called "turn the volume off entirely"
I never thought I would actually prefer the Japanese voice acting, because even Xenoblade 2, I think the English is great, it is just that Rex dub is not as good as Shulk but still a good job overall.
I would play Baten Kaitos in English if It had English on the remaster, (because I played the game knowing almost nothing about it) I won't say it is good they didn't bring back because there are people who might like it, and they should give you the option, but at least this way I could feel the emotion with the characters, playing with Japanese voices
But the voice acting in the CGI scene before the game start is so good, if in game was like that I would love
Lol recording the greatest betrayal in history and you pick the yeah whatever answers
Nice spoiler in the title, genius.
The game shouldn't have had voice actors imo, I really liked it and the music and yes even the twist here but I thought it held the game back.
You can turn it off if you want.
@@haggai4194 That's great news then.
I'm sorry that he's literally lost his mind with power that usually fries people's brains completely. You know, I just want to forget that only Fadroh, Geldoblame, and Kalas (all of whom spent a great deal of time killing people, manipulating people, and preparing themselves for this one thing) mentally survive. But please, by all means, keep attributing the disparity between the voices and animations, entirely to overacting. It's just not worth it to consider what might have been less awkward, if the animations had been more dramatic. (And sorry, but I'm an audiophile, so I have to disown the voices entirely despite the fact that a performance precedes its recording.) To be perfectly honest, I really just don't want to support any of the actors if I deem most to be bad.
Oh wait... I'm just as overdramatic as the voices in this game huh. But I'll never realise that because I can't think my way out of a paper bag.
lame!!! where's the fight scene?!
in the previous video. pay attention cody!
The voice acting is so cheesy.
Dangerously cheesy!
need more cheese.
god the voice acting is so bad lmao
This plot twist was so bad that I quit playing the game.
Bad??? Best plot in video games ever! Nobody dare this before for a main character
It might be nostalgia talking but I remember my mind being blown. I regard it as a very good twist.
Would have thought someone with a username like 'nihilistic anarchist' would appreciate a twist that breaks conventional rules of storytelling and betrays your trust. Ironic.
I Made kalas pay actually
what a terrible voice acting
Fortunately, it's japanese voice only in the remaster, so my first time experience was beautiful!
Top ten anime betrayals.