5 Design Flaws Of The Triumph Tiger 800
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- Do you want to know the hidden design flaws of the Triumph Tiger 800? These are flaws every Tiger owner should know about. Things that can break and things that can cost you a fortune.
I have spent 2 years extensively riding this motorcycle in all types of terrain and these are 5 things everyone should know about this bike
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I am riding a 2013 Tiger xc800.
In 2018 a deer run into my way i hit it at about 85 km/h and i hit the ground hard.
The deer was dead.
The Triumph standard crashbar saved my leg.
Shifter and brake lever was bent.
I still can see the scratches in the tarmac my tiger left.
I bent the levers straight, and put on some paint and that was it. Absolute nothing was broken on this bike.
I can not confirm any of the complains in this video (maybe i am just lucky).
I love my tiger :-)
damn glad you are alright
Sir, I absolutely love your honest reviews!
I appreciate that! THanks for watching
Love how you have put this video together, very informative
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video. There is not much left to be said!
Regarding crash bars, I truly recommend Outback motortek. These guys are just amazing with what they do and they have addressed exactly the issues you have pointed out.
Thank you for the mention and the kind words
Thank you for this video and having bought an 800xca new in 2018, I agree with these 5. Related to the crash bars issue is the low and wide placement of the front turn signals. The Triumph upper crash bar design isn't strong enough to protect the turn signals, which will be broken in a tip over, along with the plastic fairing near the tank, as you mentioned. I agree the Heed bars seem to offer a better option, and note the new Tiger 900 has the front turn signals placed higher and inset, where they need to be on an offroad-focussed bike. Ride safe.
Yes the turn signals suck. I replaced the front ones after the first crash. Even my speed triple turn signals fell off after 3 months. I guess its not a triumph unless it has bad turn signals
Born A Goon what signals did you replace them with? I still have the stock signals on mine, but considering smaller leds. I forgot to mention the air filter placed under the fuel tank-ridiculous on a bike doing any dirt here in Australia. I replaced the airbox snorkel with a Unifilter pre-filter, but even so, the main filter is poorly located for ease of cleaning/ maintenance.
This is not an off road bike. It’s an adventure bike. That mean you could take some unpaved roads sometimes in your trip, doesn’t mean it’s made to go out to do hard off road. There’s so many better bikes to do this purpose you wanna.
Sure there are better bikes for this but I wouldnt be a goon if I was on a 450, besides isnt it nice to see what it can do since most owners would never even try this?
Very true…I love my xcx for light trails…I did the trans America trail on a Yamaha 250… the xcx would have been destroyed.
The plastic trim on the side of the tank is designed to be sacrificial, a drop or 2 and they are meant to be replaced. You can always get the 8 gallon safari tank. PS, it is top heavy even with an empty tank compared to a T7 and 1290 adv R with full tanks.
For costs be glad it's not a polaris. Some of their ATVs have fuel pumps that go out, but to fix it you have to buy a complete $1200 fuel tank.
My tiger is a 2013 and has 104k miles on it. It's great on the road, does fine on fire roads and if I want to get more serious offroad I have a dirt bike.
mines a 14 and i have thrashed mine. i got about 90k miles, i have to replace my timing chain clutch on the original engine, i got a second 2012 engine with 12k miles for $1000 from a junkyard, plugged it in with a new thermostat and boom like new.
Mine is a 16. My level of riding is light trail and gravel but mostly tarmac. I'm over 70 and my intention is not to ride beyond my capabilities.
@@harrywiebehope you enjoy it, take care on the woods 👍👍
The Tiger is a bike I'm considering, so this is really useful information. Thank you!
I did get the Heed bars on my 14' 800xc, much better. I am older now and very tall, my off road days are over, I put some Scorpion II tires on it and now I just cruise it mostly, it is comfortable for my height and is really a fantastic road bike. One thing I do not like is switching the rider modes, PITA. 40k miles and counting... Great Video!
Thank you Tiger is a great machine
I have a 2019 800XRT and love it. I am in the process of changing the position of the front indicators which are a design flaw!
When I spent well over £12K on my XRT I knew it wouldn't be going off road, maybe a green lane but nothing more.
I doubt most XRT owners do much off roading, it is after all the road biased version!
I am still getting used to having cruise control, heated grips and heated rider&pillion seats and back lit controls!
For my riding the XRT is great but yóur points are valid for serious off roading. I'd hate to drop mine as it's loadsamoney to repair!
Great video! You may not know but actually you helped me a lot in my choice back in January! After long searching I stopped on Tiger 800 XCA, 3000 mile from February till now! I would add number 6 design problem.... the signal lights! I didn’t have the tank bar and dropped the bike from a stop position and the whole plastic frame around it cracked... anyway, absolutely love the bike and finally decided to start my own TH-cam channel too! Great video as always! In the future can you give some tips on how to ride those big, heavy machines off-road? Newbie here!
Good to hear thanks for watching Yes the signal lights on mine broke the first day
Very good content. Thank you
You are welcome!
My 2017 is a thing of beauty with some SW-Motech engine guards that are a great upgrade over the stock ones
It is a nice bike
I have consider buying heed ore the sw motech, but time will show. Anyway l love the bike, and the engien are awsome.
Now that is a useful review. Most reviews are from people who ride a new bike down the road for hour and think that’s it
Thank you
spot on
The rigid plastic turn signals irritate the jeebus outta me. I had to replace the entire r/h front signal because someone brushed past it in a car park and snapped the damn thing off. The lamp and housing were fine, just the stem was cracked, as it ain't that strong. The design of the thing meant 70 bucks gone for something pretty simple.
I know Every Triumph I owened the forst thing that breaks is the turn signals
That’s my biggest annoyance with modern bikes - the need to buy a whole assembly rather than individual components. It’s not very environmentally friendly for one thing and makes cost of insurance unnecessarily expensive
Valid points you make.
I have the 2010 tiger and like all adv bikes with bigger engines they are heavy off road.
I'm looking for decent crash bars to protect the bike so I can at least deal with the unexpected off road.
I love my Tiger I cant get rid of it I am going to do an off road build on it soon
one thing I have notes, not a big thing but in wet tarmac it shoot dirty water between tank and handelbar all the way to your wiser :)
also had a broken lens on headlight. refused to pay 400, so i cut out the lens and glued on a "lens cover" in its place...also installed wire mesh guard after
Very good
Nice and informative video
Thanks a lot hope to see you back
Accessibility to the air filter is ridiculous on these bikes. Also love my Tiger, but would I buy another, highly unlikely. Thanks for the video.
2014 800xc__ What i hate is the master fuse/solenoid sits at the bottom of the sump and the turn signal's lenses aren't sold alone! wish the low fender had more space from the tire, the mud and gravel can and does lock up the tire. Taking off the tank is a pain in the ass with the lack of slack in the wires connecting to it( I extended mine a few inches ). You need a computer to balance your throttle bodies(actually this made it easy with the program). ABS sensors will get dirty and until they're clean you wont have ABS( possibly not even a speed reading). So far, my favorite bike!
Thank you
My friends called mine "The dust buster". I wish I had known that the bike had hundreds of "known issues" before I bought it.
DOT doesn't allow for fuel tanks to be made of plastic for use on the roadway
The SW MOTECH crash bars don’t mount on the engine as well, they’re just a little more expensive.
Great video. Good points. There's a couple of other design flaws:
The fuel filter is built into the fuel pump and cannot be replaced without replacing the entire unit.
Also to change/clean the air filter you have to remove the fuel tank and some body work. Not a quick job when you're on a dusty road.
It seems like they basically took a road bike and added adventure parts. Don't get me wrong I've had my 2016 XRT for 2 years and 60,000 Km and love it. It is such a capable bike on the highway, twisties and off-road. These are just niggles.
Thanks for bringing those up Great points
I'm really surprised no one has mentioned the non existent steering lock to lock. My BMW RT (barge) turns way tighter than my Tiger. It's Ducats-esque.
Next , why does a bike that has a ton of torque, have a super close ratio trans, with a high first gear?
They could have made first lower and spread out the rest.
But like you, it's still my favorite, amongst 5.
I have the Heed upper bars on my 2018 XCx. They attach at the same place. Looks like the full "bunker bars" do not attach there.
I'm in IB, so I find myself watching your videos looking for places to ride.
I just picked up a 2016 800XCX and am making the foray into the off-road world. In regards to the ABS issue, have you found a way around that? I came across a possible fix on the ADV forum but it was for a Gen 1 series and I couldn't find anything that applied to the Gen 2.
By the way, I enjoy your content and honesty. Keep it coming!
Thank you for watching
... oh yeah! Regarding Crash Bars, I put a set on but after little while took them off, waste of time as far as I'm concerned, Yes, I did come off .... minimal damage. Another replacement was the original muffler. It reminded me of the KLR650, Heavy and restricting. I put on an UK made GPR, mae a difference to weight and performance
Great video as always! Thanks for the heads up. I know that some of these issues are addressed at the new 900 model: subframe and passenger pegs are bolt on now, the headlight is much smaller, tank is bigger and different shape.
Would be nice to hear your thoughts on the new model. People say its much better offroad
bigmankz I am currently looking at it as well, just before lock down went to see it but unfortunately was unable to take it for a test ride, however it felt so much lighter than my 800 XCA also they have trimmed the tank a bit and you can notice that! It feels way smaller and leaner! Ones lockdown over will go for a test ride and who knows... in my next TH-cam video I may have new baby!
Cant wait to ride one. However I think it would be miles behind the 790 and Tenere 7 off road but its probably better all around
SW-Motech crash bars also do not use that mounting point, thanks for giving me issues to look into :D
Thank you for watching and mentioning SW Mototech
@@BornAGoon Its the most popular brand we have here and I know its big in EU as well. Thank you for making the video!
Only bike that ever tank slapped me... more than once. Marked wallowing in the front end during aggressive cornering. Not confidence-inspiring. Rode it for only a couple of years. No comparison to current ride Duc MTS Touring S with skyhook.
Dropped the MTS low speed twice. Yes I do fire roads with it. Some touch up paint and epoxy. All good. Gotta ride it!
Dropped my 2018 XcX in the sand in Death Valley. My front fairing/display is now slightly crooked because the 2 brackets he discusses holding the front section bent on impact. I haven't taken apart to see what it would take to bend it back...just going to live with it. No doubt that both my Africa Twin and my GS were more durable on crashing as one drop damaged multiple plastic parts on this bike in ways that would not have happened on either of my previous rides.
Mine was bent too I had to pound it with a mallet
Excellent video....quick question for the expert.. I'm going to see a 2014 Tiger 800XC. If you were me, what are the points you would check on the bike before buying it? Hints are appreciated....thanks!!
Yeah! good review, valid points you make, I bought a new a 2014 model, before I bought it I knew there were things I was going to change/improve on. Tank was the first, I didn't want to damage the shiny new, painted metal one! Solution a plastic Safari 30 Litre one, made here in Australia, range at touring speed 600 Kilometers. Secondly Bark Busters also Australian made, thirdly decent Aluminium bash plate, chain guide and guard. Took off the original rubber and replaced with Mitas E07 front and rear. Let me just say This is NOT a single-track bike, fine if you are 190 cm but anyone short(er) forget, it is just too heavy. For me it was a great outback tourer, Flinders Rangers, some Victorian High country, outback NSW and QLD. Yeah, sure there are negatives, every bike has them, I enjoyed my 800 whilst i owned it, now, it's gone to another owner!
Fantic Caballero 700, it does the job well and it's sturdy.
Well. If you were to read the. manual it specifically says this motorbike is not designed to be used the way you are using it .
If you watched the video, I believe I stated several times that I was using the bike outside of its described usage, and in every video, I have ever done, I never once blamed Triumph. I have done nothing but brag about their reliability like in this video here th-cam.com/video/Py2BpgIEK3E/w-d-xo.html, and this one where I did read the manual and made fun of myself th-cam.com/video/4gwLGWCwDSA/w-d-xo.html, All of the complaints in this video, were not related to hardcore enduro. For example, the crash bars mount to a casted aluminum part of the engine that can be broken in a parking lot. The headlights use a plastic mount that, if broken, is a 400 replacement. That Triumph puts an aluminum chain protector on a dedicated street bike but a plastic one on an adventure bike. Or that the subframe and passenger pegs are one unit. These complaints have nothing to do with off-road they can happen anywhere. If anything, I am probably the best ambassador for Triumph reliability and capability since not many use the bike like this, and that is a testament to Triumph
the beak is an incrddibly "brilliant" conglomeration of interdependant plastic puzzle pieces...and what does it do anyway? replaced it with the snub nose for the roadie version.
That’s the 800 XCA off my wish list. I thought the subframe was the biggest issue until read about the tubed tyres / wheels 😪
Yes plus the crash bars mount to the engine wher it can break it
Ugh... I had a low-speed trail get-off this weekend (got crossed-up in a muddy rut and fell over at walking speed). Front subframe headlight mounting ear sheared off.. $180, windshield broken.. $170, One of the headlight assembly captured nut mounts sheared off... hopefully will be able to plastic weld it back on. I love my 2014 Tiger, but can't afford to ride it in anything close to the dirt...LOL
Thats why I switched to a dual sport Everytime I took the Tiger off-road something fell of it even if I didnt crash
Well I’ve had for the last few years BMW’s until I got my Tiger 800 nearly a year ago.
I’ve got to say yes it’s not a perfect motorcycle but unlike the BMW’s I’ve had I’m able to do my service easily, nothing had gone wrong at all, yes it’s a bit heavy but nothing like my previous tractor like gsa’s. It’s not an off-road bike per say but boy compared to the bm’s on my little gravelly off roads here in north uk it great. The gearbox is so slick not clumpy like my bm’s the weight I find doesn’t bother me the techy bits I don’t use, the motor is superb, what else I dunno it’s a great bike spare’s easily sourced.
Please, where do you source your parts in the UK?
I'm just forming a rough price list for when I buy one. It looks a good buy for our Scottish roads and forestry tracks.
Recently tradet my vstrom for a 2011mod 800xc. It is a great bike, but have not taken it trail riding yet.
As l do commute in all kind of weather l can also say that the oem handguards just don works for nothing. I need to upgrade to something better. The vstroms handguards made me ride with summer gloves all year around. And yeah l ride in snow to😀
Thanks for watching
The side-stand hits the arm
Why would someone take a $13,000 motorcycle off road? Why would someone believe this bike was meant to be ridden in the back country? Because they saw a promo video of a professional racer ripping it in the desert and the woods! Because people are obsessed with gathering knowledge but don't care about understanding, about having good sense. The same people who would take this bike or its big brother off road are the people who can look up at the sky, and explain why the rain is falling and how the lightening is manifested across the sky but they stand there and get soaked and struck by lightening because they don't have the sense to get out of it. These are not design flaws. Triumph laughs at every sucker that buys this bike for "adventuring"...they laugh all the way to the bank. I had this bike. I rode it on the road, not in the woods. It was an awesome bike. I never had it fail on any of these points, and I am guessing if I would have kept it for 100K miles, I never would have had it fail on any of these points. Why not buy a used dual sport for $4,000 and thrash it? Even buy a new one for $6,000 and ride it anywhere. If they total their dual sport, they just buy another used one and go ripping some more. Don't drop any bike or crash it. It is going to break, and that is not a design flaw. That is a rider flaw.
A KTM 450 or any 450 will cost you 12,000. The design flaws mentioned are all problems if you dumped the bike in a parking lot. All manufatures laugh at us because only pros can ride these bikes to their fullest potential anyway and if you think about it everybody thinks motorcyclists are dangerous and stupid. Why do I take a 13k bike of road and thrash it, well, because I can. Also the the name of my channel is Born A Goon, not Born A Logical person
Hey!
First of all, amazing job! Love your content! I have a Tiger just like yours from 2019, I am reaching 8000km and I noticed that my bike is consuming the oil. In the other day I saw that I couldn't see any oil from the eye glass. I use to ride in cruise pace (don't have your skill ahah), so I don't think it is from riding it hard. The dealer sad that is normal for the tiger 800 to consume oil, but I'm not convinced. So I wonder if notice that on yours? Thanks man! Keep doing these amazing videos!
Good point and the answer is yes. When I went on my 1500 mile southwest ride I had to put oil in it It burned half a quart lol
Did you ever go down a tooth on the front sprocket? I think i may have too much torque at 80mph im running at 8g rpm's
The biggest design flaw in my opinion are the indicators/blinkers position.
Even with a bigger crashbar from outback-motorteck they are breaking when you lay the bike down standing still. Which can happen even if you don't go offroad.
I removed my blinkers and used the handguards from SW-Motech which have integrated blinkers as option. The handguadrds plastic are not so durable if you crasch in dirt but can be replaced for 30-40€/$. The hole on the side of the tiger where the blinkers where, I have filled them with a printed part in silver and if you dont know it you would't recognize it to be a foreign part. (Scaned the surface to have it perfectly flush... If anybody would like the data i could provide)
GIVI crash bars also arent mounted to the engine, and are more fashionable than heed ;)
TN6409 Givi crash bars mount to 3 motor mounts also.
Triumph states these bikes are for light off road duties only ( think made dirt roads). Using it as suggested I have ridden my 2015 Tiger 800XCx across Australia twice fully loaded. Yes, I have broken some plastics too. Cost me $500 AU ( 300 US). Was it worth it? Yes I love the bike too. BTW I have a Suzuki DRZ 400E model with a 30L Safari tank fitted. The same feeling regarding fuel load exists when it is full, so I wouldn't consider it a design flaw at all. You just ride accordingly until the level drops down a bit.
How does it fair on a big ride like that? Across Australia, all tarmac or dirt too? I’ve the last XCX and wondering if foolish to try and overland it in LatAm. Too fragile? By 2019 it’s refined and mature mechanically right? I just rode mine fairly aggressively for 8 hours solid 90% constant twisties in NZ … puuuuurs. Comfortable, capable, but does it only belong within a tow truck ride to the Triumph dealership?
@@steve.afendoulis My trip was 60/40 tarmac / dirt. I rode across the Nullabor with a bit of dirt in the Gawler ranges , then up towards Geraldton. We hit the dirt and headed east, which was 90% dirt until we hit the East coast. Some was rough, some was smooth. The Tiger handled it fine. Tow trucks were used for 2 KTM 690 and a SWM 650. I would take a smaller bike to Latin America though. Fragility issues? The headlight and surrounding plastics ( annoying) , and rear frame can break if you dump it hard enough ( need a good welder).
@@kymstock1852 haha thanks a lot for the explanation. Yeah, I’m learning towards a more robust and probably basic, lighter bike. Interesting to know how the Tiger can be pushed, so I can enjoy the luxury in NZ for sure. Gravel roads, fire breaks and 4wd tracks are fine. You’re right the subframe is a big concern too.
@@steve.afendoulis possibly the fitting of pannier racks and hard cases flex the frame more in crashes. Also the pillion pegs do the same. I considered cutting them off.
@@kymstock1852 I love the hard panniers for touring; so easy at a campsite, cabins, motel, hotel. That said they’re a big problem where you’re likely to drop it. I’m gonna go soft luggage for off-road, not sure if I’d bother taking the racks off because, as you noted, the passenger pegs are probably going to case a subframe fracture before the pannier racks do.
Would you get it again ?
I want to take an adv Bike a lot Offroad because its a secondary Bike for me to do offroad and travel as for the street and weekend trips i got m Street Triple
No I think if you are going to do considerable off road time you have 2 choices IMO The Tenere 7 or the KTM 790. I rode the 790 and as much as I love Triumphs there is no comparison here The 790 is in another league
I heard the bike has overheating issues and that it gets so hot you can feel the heat through the seat. I want to offroad in Nevada and this is a concern of mine.
Mine didnt overheat any more than a KTM or others I thought it was ok
The biggest 'flaw' is using the bike in places it shouldn't be taken and dropping it so frequently. You bought the wrong bike. I've had no problem with any of your complaints, though will admit I have much better crash bars than the Triumph ones.
True but all motorcycles are used in the wrong places because if you think logically nobody should ever ride a motorcycle lol
I have issues when the gears wont change down when coming to a stop. Not often but its s pain when it does. 4000km on odometer.
Mine isnt the smoothest of shifters either I switched to Yamalube synthetic and it helped.
Your shift rod up to transmission maybe be adjusted incorrectly. Start there.
I once heard "every bike is a compromise" and that is the bog standard.
PS: You didn't mention the crappy indicators. Broke both of mine just washing the bike. Black Ducktape now.
True both of my Triumphs turn signals fell off The worst turn signals in the biz
The first problem, the engine bar, happened to my R1200GS so it's not only this bike
I didnt know that Terrible place to mount a crash bar isnt it
@@BornAGoon it certainly seems a bad design to me! I see that some crash bar manufacturers know this and mount the bars to a bracket that spreads the load so it's definitely a known thing
This is why it is foolish to take a $12K bike off road. Your learning the hard way why it is best to buy a used dual sport for off road riding. Been riding all my life. Still cannot believe people buy these bikes for off road riding. Fragile, heavy...these are road bikes.
It could be considered foolish to ride a motorcycle period. Besides a new Honda crf 450 cost 12,000 and cant be taken on the street. People dont buy these bikes for off road riding, goons do though
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡been riding all your life what Honda Shadow, ....had gsa, got the tiger,...takes me fishing, hunting...bush ripping...maybe time to trade ur bike in for an ecar ass clown 😝😝😝💪🖖🤡🤡🤣🥃🤡👈
Do you think the KTM 790 is better made? I like how KTM designed the gas tanks very low on the bike.
Yes the 790 is better
Good enough flaws to discourage me on not buying it.
Triumph must be losing customers over this video 😂 and that's good, I like an honest review. I'm reconsidering buying a Tiger now. I don't want to spend 300€ per drop. And the T7 didn't convince me. I felt a lot of weight with the T7 in the corners while the Tiger was very nimble, and the "comfort" seat was atrocious. I'm stuck!
Well the T7 would be better off road at least it was for me but the Tiger 800 is so loveable Have you thought about the Tiger 900
There’s a 16 XRT for sale at my local shop , 55k miles on it. That mileage scares me though , they want $7900….
thats a lot of miles Should be good though Thing is a beast
Is the Tiger 900 better . I am not sure about the new motor ' i like the smooth 800 motor
I don't know You are right the 800 is super smooth but I should would love to ride the 900 Maybe we can get triumph to loan me one lol
I rode the 900 gt pro for a few minutes when my dad had it for a few hours after getting my Street Triple from Service.
The engine is just as smooth as in my Street Triple 765 but the character is defnitely different, dont think it feels like a twin like all the Magazines say but its just different, a little bit more pithy.
It really felt great on the street, great ergonomics brakes and a super comfortable ride and plushness. The only thing i disliked was the TFT Design, its christal clear but you can hardly tell at what rpm you are i think they should bring a software Update or something.
No idea though how the Rally would feel and how it handles offroad.
Thanks a lot. Now I can make fun of my friend a Tiger 800 owner 😄
give them hell lol
Another solution would be to connect with a tiger 🐯 community and organise to buy it together as other people probably have the same problems
They fixed a lot of those issues with the 900 but I think the frame part is welded
In the 900cc the flame isn’t welded… but 800cc probably is more than enough for me…
I have SWMotec bars = no problem.
Dont the SW bars connect to the engine as well.
@@BornAGoon No Sir. I mean yes but not in the same way. At the base of the engine on the outside. Looks a lot safer, plus they are higher to protect the tank and plastic tank extensions.
There is something to fix all those problem. Dr 650
@sayrxx official Haha I used to own one but in a moment of insanity I sold it. So I'm heading for a Dr now.
@sayrxx official they're a great bike. I'm after something more simple. I didn't have any reliability problems. Dr's are as reliable as a rock. Slow as a rock. And heavy as a rock. Lol
Heed bars were my first big purchase for mine.
Have dropped it twice (my car broke its fall 🤦♂️) and snapped one of the mounts for the screen. Epoxy to the rescue. The gearshift failed...apparently that happens more often than you'd like. Rubber grommets for the side panels perished long before I got the bike.
And the price of genuine parts...painful, to say the least.
Do you recommend the Heed bars?
how is it in tiger 900 ?
Some of it is the same but I have not had a chance to test a Tiger 900
thank you so much for your reply
ABS plastic, not PVC. Poor design/ finicky to get back together around the tank and radiator. I had rust issues inside the metal tank after filling with contaminated fuel. The fuel filter caught the rust, and the fuel pump kept working. I was not able to buy a new filter from Triumph, but the whole filter/pump at $400US approximately. I used a $80 unit from California instead. I add more flaws; Triumph used ball bearings in the steering head, not roller bearings. Very weak/ thin front fender attachment point that rocks caught in side knobs of the tyre will rotated around and smash the fender support. Using 15 mm Touratech riser kits still breaks. I found a guy in NSW OZ who 3D printed up a ABS riser kit. It broke sacrificially rather then the fender.
Then the position of the main fuse under the battery is stupid. It gets wet and dusty down there and the fuse block corrodes= dead engine. It shows that Triumph did not intend the Tiger to be used in rugged off road conditions. Fine for Europe, not ideal for USA or OZ or South Africa. it will do it, but it is cosmetically fragile.
Wow you have had issues with your Tiger Hope it gets better
@@BornAGoon After the 2 years of lock down when I could not ride it much I decided to sell the Tiger and pulled my DRZ400E out of storage and ride that now. Had I ridden the Tiger as Triumph intended ( 90% sealed road/ 10 % dirt) I probably would never have experienced those issues. I still love the reliability of the design, but it is a bit fragile for my needs. I have zero confidence in KTM 's R&D and BMW mid size bikes don't suit my needs. The price of the 900 Tigers is now out of my range( no, that is not accurate. I can afford one, but won't) . I am considering a Royal Enfield Himalayan as a touring bike when I hit 70 years of age in two years time.
Gorgeous, sexy? We are talkin bikes aren't we? 🤔
Yes but they can be romantic lol
What year was this bike?
2018
Did they keep all these designs from gen1 or were these tweaks for the post 2015 models?
I have had Africa Twin, Tenere, GS´s and I WILL NOT trade my Tiger for any of them. Period!
Ride with buddies on T7, africa twin and so on, and its a constant friendly discussion of which one who is the best one.😀
Guess it depends on the riding I do like the new Africa Twin
Same here Iv another bike for off road
subtitule please
This is why when you get a Honda Crosstourer you don't have think about the bike itself anymore and you just ride and ride and ride..
Or an Africa twin
The Tiger is just as reliable That engine has never failed me ever
@@BornAGoon I'm glad your bike's been reliable, but there are quite few with bad experience compared to Japanese bikes.
I did break my chain guard
Good old triumph chain guards
Not yet you didn't you mean. TMD Yamaha yz450 f one will fit with a little work...Strong carbon fiber, contains chain shake.
I only watched half the video, but this is more nitpicking than any actual "MAJOR DESIGN FLAWS"
I mentioned in the beginning and end some of it was nitpicking. However , crash bars that are mounted to an engine screw that cant be replaced is not nitpicking I would also say that any Tiger owners who regularly go off road have broken crash guards, dented gas tanks, and bent break pedals . The other half had their bikes totaled when the passenger pegs got bent hitting a tree stump. Those are major
@@BornAGoon Fair enough. And I did ad the word "MAJOR" for some reason. Not sure where my head was at.
King knit picker as opossed to ' King Dick ' the real mans tool.
That must be why Honda dropped the crosstourer.... plus the flaws are not really flaws in my opinion.
It is not an enduro .
A F800GS doesn't have any of these issues!
I have the R and ST and these bikes are very well thought out. The GS even used is thousands more than mine same years. If I was taller I'd consider one to complete the range. Love the engine character.
Except for breaking down the whole time. Had a GS 800 and had nothing but headaches with it. Worst bike I ever had
@@karstenlund8956 had mine since September 2014 and nothing has gone wrong.
well, because this is not off-road or even adv bike - it's a street bike dressed for adventure LOL
It is just not an Offroad bike .....
Dirtroads, yes, but that is about it.
You want Offroad, buy a crf 300, xt600 dr400 drz650 or some ktm, those bikes are build for that purpose.
What other design flaws have I left out?
I think they flawed the design of air filter location. Changing it is not hard but time consuming. I don't think its good design when you have to undo 30 bolts just to change the air filter
It's not a major flaw, but I always thought it is strange that Triumph didn't equip the Tiger 800 with a rear wheel mudguard, especially on the XC version, to prevent all kinds of dirt and debris from getting into the rear shock absorber. I bought a GIVI rear wheel cover for that purpose on my Tiger 800 2011 road version.
Did you get smaller turn signals? If so, which ones. I did buy the Heed bars. Falling down happens. Farkles and mods are what makes this hobby fun. Also, did you get something different for the chain guard?
There are holes in the inside of the swing arms so dirt gets in. Not sure if this is a problem or not
I have found most parts, no matter how simple or small, require two tools to remove. I wish there were same size bolts wherever possible
Adventure bike, not offroad bike
its a bike
off road off road ! seriously ,,,why oh why do people take fat heavy bikes offroad and expect them to be any good at it ,,its a road bike dressed up for the i want to look like an adventurer group . .... buy a proper dual sport bike if you want to go offroad , every problem you mention is damage from taking a road bike offroad .
With so many "SUBSCRIBE" pop ups, I became confused and clicked thumbs down instead.
Triumph is like Harley....SHIT!
Were do you get your experiences from, internet?
@@tachelesreden Had a triumph. Too many problems. Sold it and bought a reliable Suzuki.
@@tindog999 What triumph do you had?
@@tachelesreden Street triple mate. Used a lot of oil.