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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- As they reach 20k subscribers, Jonii ponders the greatest question asked by their 2020 video, "The Disappearance of Ms. Pac-Man"; "Why the heck is he saying Miss and not Mizz?"
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Something I'd like to note on the Japanese side of things is that the Japanese spelling of her name is ミズ・パックマン (mizu pakkuman)
If her name was Miss Pac-Man, then the Japanese spelling would be ミス・パックマン (misu pakkuman)
Z and S difference are there too?
You know nothing of Luigi. Not the way I know him. I live and breath Luigi. All you could ever hope is that he would piss in your general direction. We went to school together, grew up together you don't know his struggles. Did you even know he got a doctorate in medicine? Dr.Luigi is real, Mario's just a petty cosplayer with medical direction from his own brother. Every year is the year of Luigi, and you'll never understand, you just don't get it. Luigi's never die.
I think that Luigi is hot as fuck unironically
@@XSlimSxadyX i dunno, i feel like mario’s the hotter of the two brothers
something about his plump plumber body really does it for me 🥴
LMFAOOOOO
@@nohi3619 smh Luigi is the better brother overall 💅
Yes. Me too.
As a non-native English speaker this video is a nightmare, but a very good nightmare
Congrats for the 20k!
this video feels like a rollercoaster ride
Woah! Did not expect you to be here, but welcome man!
Wow hi vail
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VAIL WHAT’S UP
just the phrase "out of wedlock video game birth" has me spiraling.
I’m pretty sure the “Mizz” and “Miss” thing is a regional dialect. I’m from the southern united states and (at least from where I live) we explicitly learn in school that Ms. is pronounced “miss” and that Mrs. is pronounced “misses”. I’ve literally never once heard someone distinct mizz and miss until today.
Same
Yup, central Floridian here and most of us here (regardless of race or ethnicity!) say Miss or Misses when addressing women! Usually it’s saved for mature/older women, especially for older folks here since it’s a pretty formal way to address someone here. I actually work part-time at a Publix, and we say miss/misses a LOT due to the extreme volume of elderly white customers and how old fashioned the store’s values are 🤣
I'm from the Northeastern US and I thought the distinction between Ms. and Miss was common knowledge
Exactly! Miss or Ms. means young or single, and Mrs., misses, and mistress mean married adults…
West Coast here--California. As far as I remember, in school we were taught that Ms. was just short for "miss" too and only that. Don't think I've ever heard it consistently be "mizz" until today, which is funny since my parents were from where it "should" be that.
i remember my mom would frequently correct my pronunciation of ms. pac-man and until i watched this video, i had no clue why i was constantly corrected
but now i know the difference thanks to this video :)
The divorce arc is why she isn't in the latest media
I applaud your capability to turn the pronunciation of a one syllable word into a 20 minute video
Misread its 12 minutes and it’s not letting me edit the comment guys please don’t call me foolish please
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I always pronounce as "miss" even though I write the character's name as "Ms. Pac-Man" because the game stick with writing her name like that. I always remember people over the years calling her "Mrs. Pac-Man".
8:04 ahh my good friend Demeech (also a Pac-Man enthusiast) knows that voice, Justin Berti! He actually appeared on his channel in his Mario kart origins series, which does cover the inclusion of Namco characters in Arcade GP!
I can't believe I spent 13 minutes watching you talk about a yellow sphere's wife's name. Thank you.
It never occurred to me that Pac-man and Ms. Pac-man could have long legs because i'm too use to seeing the boots cover majority of their legs so i considered the boots their feet but seeing a 3d model of Ms. Pacman with slipper heels is jarring to me, every time i return to this channel i always get a bit of new Pac-man lore, thanks jonii
But... I thought the Ms. meant Microsoft :/
I was familiar with the difference between Ms. and Mrs. in the written form but had no idea, (or forget), that they were pronounced completely differently.
Weirdly enough, this reminds me of how some people argue how to pronounce SNES.
10:08 You could say that about just anyone with the whole Miss/Ms. thing. For a lot of people nowadays, they never really thought about the non-married variants of the terms Miss/Ms. because they both seem to deal with someone who is non-married. With Mrs., there's at least a more obvious difference there with someone who is married, to my knowledge.
The ms. Pac man saga continues
Great video as always ! I just want to say that as a non native english speaker, i honestly though that Ms. was an abbreviation of Miss so it wouldn't suprise me that it got lost in translation, although it probably isn't the only factor
It always feels weird saying it the right way
Wow, I always thought the opposite: that Ms. is just an alternative spelling of Mrs., so also pronounced "misses". Never even thought about it. Was interesting to learn about the origin of the word.
More journalistic integrity than most major publications these days
Being told that I've been saying Ms. Pac-Man's name wrong all this time feels like being told that I'm breathing manually.
In all seriousness man, congrats on the 20k subscribers! You have become one of my favorite gaming channels honestly. Its been pretty fun and am looking forward to whatever you do next my man! keep up the good work.
11:04 I love the joke where you show the Carl Evangelion picture referencing that meme where he says “it don’t matter, none of this matters” which is a remark on the existential nature of Evangelion with a famous Carl quote, THEN segue into the Sonic Adventure pic referencing the song “it doesn’t matter.” There’s many many layers here
If anyone knows me, they’d know I prefer Mario Kart Arcade over the mainline games.
As for the video itself, I really liked the direction it went with it starting off with the history of “Ms.” and everything that happened after the Mizz pronunciations in Pac-Man games were covered
As someone who's comments are almost always filled with "you pronounced that wrong" I related a ton with that ending. Great video, keep up the amazing work.
I was taught in the UK this;
Mrs. "misses" - a married woman
Miss - an unmarried woman
Ms. "mizz" - a woman with unspecified marital status
Due to me being dumb or whatever s-sounds & z-sounds slurr together to when I say Ms. I try to put a strong enthesis on the z-sound.
I haven't had to think about this distinction since 10th grade. Thanks for the interesting coverage on it! Also, is that not how you pronounce Puyo Puyo?!
I wonder if Ma’am would have been a better choice in retrospect, as it’s a more ambiguous term to use when addressing a woman, as it’s not really tied to age or if they’re married or not? I live in central Florida and I’ve used Ma’am for pretty much all my life to address female strangers, and I’ve had people address me as Ma’am a lot as well (even though I’m 21 🤣)
Ma'am Pac-Man
@@SirKibble15 Pac Ma'am
Ma'am is an American thing. In the UK it's not used.
I remember learning the differences between Ms. and Mrs. respectfully as Miss and Misses. I have never heard that Mizz and Miss were different words before this video.
Same.
I'm in disbelief that it's actually a real thing, tbch.
It's some Mandela Effect type shit.
20k?! Damn, Jonii. You cruised right past me in short order. Keep it up!
Thanks so much, Joe! It's surreal for me to think about when you put it that way haha.
Thx for the miss-ms. explanation, I didn't know about it either even with 5 years of english study
Miss pronounced the way it’s Spelled
Ms pronounced Mizz
and Mrs pronounce Misses. Misses(Mrs) is for a married woman. Ms. Is used regardless of Marriage status.
Ms. Pac-Man isn’t married in the start of her game. Hence why she isn’t Mrs. Pac-Man
cancelling jonii for saying melk (thank you for making these videos and congrats on 20k)
NEW JONII?!
Congratulations on 20k, glad to read Ms and I still don't know how to pronounce it.
As a teacher, I went by Ms. Lake and told my students, "Mrs. means married, miss means unmarried and Ms. means none of your damn business." They need to do away with using Mrs. and Miss and strictly use Ms. making the marital status of women equally unknown to that of men. Then, it wouldn't matter how it is pronounced because there would be no distinction in meaning.
6:39 Take a look at Pac Man in the bottom right corner while Ms. Pac Man is dancing. 🤣
I used to watch a show called ''What's My Line?'' a few years ago and the host John Charles Daly almost always asked the female contestants if he should refer to them as ''mis'' (Ms. ) or ''missus'' (Mrs. ) So people knew how to deal with the issue even back then. I wonder what the development staff had in mind when Bill Gates chose to abreviate his Microsoft Disk Operating System brand as MS DOS back in August 12th 1981 and just a little over a month and a half before Midaway acquired the rights for Ms. Pacman from GCC on October 29th 1981. Forward thinking maybe?
The Ms. Pac-Man Model I ripped from Namco Museum Vol. 3, I actually misspelled Ms. with Mrs. until someone in the comments corrected me about that.
missed the opportunity for the joke “mizzguided souls”
You deserve the 20k man
Hey dude thanks for the great vids keep it up!
At the end of the day, why is it a big deal you slightly mispronounced “Ms.” Only giving women two different honorifics depending if they’re married or not is so archaic. I predict in the future, Ms. will be the dominant honorific since it’s the safest one
NAMCO MUSEUM VOL 3's ost is a banger
yes i agree, us non-native english speakers are like: *confused screaming*
I remember somewhere they're used to be a little jingle that said mizz Pac-Man all sing song, like in a game iirc
I always called her "Ms. Pac-Man" with the pronunciation "Mizz". My problem is I used to spell her name with an "r". I don't do that much anymore because I know the difference between Mrs. and Ms.
Very epic informative essay
I’m telling you bro, 1 Million is on the way
7:04 OH GOD, SMOL AME HAS BREACHED CONTAINMENT AGAIN!
Was hoping someone would catch that. :p
@@joniivee The rabbit hole is too dangerous
Liked the video. Maybe this distinction just wasn't taught in schools after a certain point. Also not to pile on but 1:43 is a brand new way to say "diffidence" 😄
might be because i dont speak english natively but i hardly notice the different
i had to repeat like 5 times to notice the difference in sound
jesus, english is just my second language so i'm confused as fuck
wake up new jonii video
Mizzstery solved.
5:00 found a big mistake, Australia isn’t real. Might want to fix that 😐
Obligotary "the english language is a fucking joke" comment
Good stuff as always 🖤
You mean "Mizz" guided souls, right?
After looking at your subscriptions, I have a few questions
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I thought the difference was “miss, or ms.” means single, while “misses, mrs., or mistress” mean married
glad to know im not in enough cahoots with fictional video game character to know whether or not he is married.
ANOTHER BANGER LETS GOO! :)
...looks like someone didn't hit on the cougars in college
2:47
I agree with the statement/sentiment on that banner, but the words “Abortion on Demand” makes me thing of like “video on demand” and that’s a little amusing.
why the heck do the comments to this video seem to think that Mrs. is an abriviation for Misses? That's already a word; it means to not hit something. I've always seen it spelled Missus
Missus is the correct spelling of Mrs., you're right.
i thought ms. stood for mario soccer. this is a major oversight on namco's part, i will be filing several lawsuits
My kindergarten teacher was a ms, and that's how I learned.
I knew that Miss was unmarried, Mrs was married, and Ms was either, but I thought Ms and Miss were pronounced the same
Hey jonii have you Heard the NEWS that a Pac-man world 1 remake is coming to the Nintendo switch? The pac is back now!
i live in japan there isn't a distinction between married and unmarried women, we all get the -sama added onto our family name.
now do they know the difference? it depends on if they have studied English or not...so it's like yeah they know? but probably don't care?
In Polish, it's traditionally;
Panna = Miss
Pani = Mrs.
But the word Panna is now not used as much and Pani now just means Ms. I think this change started in the 1990s/2000s.
So Polish is like Japanese now.
i think i'm too stupid to tell the difference between both pronnunciations
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0:51 bfdi mouth lol
Kind of odd that a video about Miss Pac-man is what taught me that there’s a difference between Ms. and Miss, but it’s a great video, so I'm not against that.
I didn't realize ms and miss were different till an older woman was annoyed at my misuse and make me correct to mrs for her lol.
The fact people get angry over pronunciation is quite funny. Still an interesting video.
Ms. me with that bull
I'll be honest, I thought Ms. (Mizz) was for widows exclusively. I have no idea why.
literally hear the same for the entire video
Wow. I was taught in school that it was Ms for an unmarried lady and Mrs was for married. I had no idea I was not only pronouncing it wrong but also wrong in meaning. Hm
im just waiting for the day you utter the word "yakuza" and i can severely judge you based on how you say it
0:50 bfdi mouth lol
tremendous pronunciation lesson i'm swallowing now
Hey jonii can u do a discussion on pac man ghost zone I think I would be a good discussion
0:23
What is that song playing in the back.
I absolutely have to know.
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Penis Music, as the meme community called it, lol
@@ColtonMiller6012 You are such a godsend. Thank you.
The english language it's really dumb, because as a Non-English speaker this sounds like a terrible thing to point out, you telling me that Ms. and Miss are two diferent things and not only that BUT OPPOSITES, BOTHERS THE HELL OUT OF ME.
agreed
Oh hey, I saw my comment! Neat!
I mean, I always called her Miss Pac-Man............
I'm not a native english speaker, i get what you are saying but no matter how much i try i can't really hear a difference.
I will also say that the situation described in 1:46 once and since then i just dropped the words from my vocabulary.
Microsoft Pac-Man
It's obviously "Ems Pac-Man"
Do more monkey ball
mixx
you're so sweet
M E L K
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I pronounce it
ms
MI-ZES
ITS MIZKIF PACMAN OBVIOUSLY JONII SMH SMH
Easy, Pakuman-chan, as they say in French. Probably
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