"we are treating this professionally" - shuts down the discord, social media, doesn't address all of the outstanding orders and money owed I think we have different definitions for "professionally"
Liking the game and the art is fine, but at the same time you can agree that the people running MetaZoo are the most unprofessional nitwits in the industry.
He wont, that's why he says "part of the company". There are not many businesses that would be this foolish. Companies do extensive research before acquiring any business.
I really loved collecting MetaZoo, but this whole debacle was a complete trust and faith loss for me. I'm selling everything that doesn't have sentimental value to me at this point. I was happily suprised that on Ebay my stuff is actually getting bids. I was really worried the market was gone but I'm happy to get out and at least get some of my money back
Ah okay “professionally”- good old gaslighting even now. There is nothing professional about shutting down the company out of nowhere, rescinding the letter, and effectively leaving everyone in the dark after deleting most socials including personal ones. The fact he talks about the rumors as if they’re hateful considering his outburst is beyond my level of comprehension.
Retracting the initial closure letter is more than likely due to the outstanding orders and the commitments MetaZoo has made with certain companies. I’m inclined to think it was deleted to avoid any lawsuits it could have incurred and the financial burden Mike would have suffered from any contracts broken. Personally I think it was for self preservation and most likely was advised. As for Ebay listings, they will continue to be volatile and heavily persuaded by the rumour mills and TH-cam commentary.
Seems like the rumors are keeping the secondary market steady. Initially people were fire selling and accepting any offers. Definitely think you're right on this one.
The thing is I heard about Bandai buying MZ literally months ago. We discussed this in the BBS discord. So weird it popped back up now like it’s new information
@cheeseburger8932 unfortunately trademark lawyers aren't that great in a courtroom - unless you're trying to sabotage Metazoo then maybe it's a good idea then lol
The first screenshot looks altered. Second line of first text by Mike is a different font than the rest of the conversation. "Part of MZ, and it would be cool if Bandai is one of them. If they had proper infrastructure and resources to build out an IP that would be super helpful" - different font and size of font
Honestly the Metazoo Ded made me go back and crack some boxes of nightfall, and UFO. The pulls I was getting reinforced that despite the craziness (and depressed values), I still love the cards, the art, the theming. I will buy boxes of nightfall to crack in perpetuity if the prices stay low.
Personally I think this is going to be a reverse effect situation. We know exactly how much is printed, and with Metazoo closing, we know it's not going to keep being printed. This means that anyone that is genuinely interested in MetaZoo or Cryptids will continue to buy the supply as years go on, because it's their only source for experiencing the IP. You're going to get that itch to open Nightfall again in 5 years, then in 10, then 20. There's at least 30,000 other people that are eventually going to get that itch and seek out products as well. MetaZoo is a relatively low supply compared to other TCGs. I don't think it's too dramatic to think that these boxes can get pretty darn expensive, considering there's only 6 sets. You also have to think about how many people just dumped MetaZoo onto the market for dirt cheap. I want to assume that 90% of the people that bought all of that are investors capitalizing on the fear, not collectors, which means even more of the supply is now locked up behind bars for however long they're willing to hold. I spent $5k this week buying up wilderness/UFO at $18-22 and Nightfall/Seance at $33-36. It's all staying locked up with the rest of my backstock until I see triple digits. And I guarantee there's at least a handful of people out there that did the exact same thing this week.
Do people actually buy Metazoo to actually play the game and enjoy its lore? I'm genuinely curious. I feel it's real player base is like a few hundred players, worldwide. Most viewers of videos don't even play, they just like to watch drama it seems. I wonder if Metazoo will truly survive 5 years from now.
It's more than a few hundred, no more than a few thousand if I had to guess. It's a complex game, but you can also modify the rules, take the 4th wall effects out and its actually pretty fun. Think about Mothman fighting Bigfoot! I got into it because I like cryptids, collectors play a big part. Even though many of us are sad with all the BS and drama, it's nice to get the Rudychan's/Timmys and "investors" out of the mix. You can pick cards up for a decent price now. No matter where you live in the U.S., there is probably a card/cryptid close to you to pick up! Many of the stories surrounding these are fun to look up, very dark themes for many of the stories, but I've quite enjoyed it! Also why a bunch of us did not like the hello kitty collab. Like I know a lot about many of these cryptids before metazoo, but learned about a bunch more! Look up the story of "ghost of the sloss furnaces" sometime!
@@starnorth931 Actually yea, I agree its more like 2000-3000 players in total. The average viewership of a metazoo video is like 4k views and at least 1-2k of them must be investors only or drama watchers. I personally don't play or collect the game, but I saw it in my notifications a few years back and I have been following since Cryptid Nation's 1st release. Idk if ill ever get into the game tbh, I don't know a single person that knows or is interested in learning it. I would maybe collect it now that prices are basically nothing. At least all the major cryptids. Maybe its about time...
At what point do we start calling for prison time? Releasing that roadmap a week before the rug pool (to bring back hope and prices) needs to be addressed.
Of course it’s false! This was never the case. There is no deal. Mike is pumping the market so stakeholders can unload. Who would purchase MetaZoo with the level of undelivered preordered product, debt, and mismanagement? Every PE or VC firm compares cost to create/cost to acquire. It’s so much easier to make a new game than to buy this one for those investors.
Wouldn't it have been easier to not crash the market by posting the shutdown letter before pumping it? 🤔 He easily could have had everyone sell off and _then_ tanked everything
@@hover2go Also a very good point. :D What I was thinking is Mike put out the closure notice. Someone contacted him and said "wait bro"... that's what I was thinking, anyway.
Why would you say that you would still collect the top hitters, if you are selling the top hit cards over on your personal Ebay store? There will never be another 1/1 ever again, and you are selling it.
even if Metazoo did get sold, why did everyone immediately point to Bandai as the buyer, based on no evidence whatsoever? It could be any number of companies out there.
I only got into MetaZoo due to rocketing prices in MTG. Loving the cards and I've been buying MZ across the board. There is enough back content on youtube to have a lot of fun with opening the product for the rest of the year even if we get no new product from MZ. Obviously, i now hope we will see some new product at some point. Loving your channel!
Let me preface this by saying I’ve always wanted to *play* metazoo. But the fact that investing has been as important if not significantly more important to the discussion has made me have zero interest in supporting the company. Now that it’s dead, I’ve been going out and purchasing complete sets with the goal of putting them into a Cube/draft box to play with friends. That should have been the goal and mindset from the beginning.
Obviously, there's more to this story. To post that they're closing up shop, then to take the post down, is weird. MZ socials are gone. Reddit is set to private. Support @ metazoo is no longer a working web address. MZ is closing. Will it be sold? Maybe. I think it depends on how far along MZ has gotten with its 3D modeling of the characters that was being put together over last year. I forget the name of the studio, but it was a prominent studio. If MZ has a ton of 3d assets for all of the characters then maybe a company like Bandai would be interested. I think it's unlikely but idk.
Albeit at a lower price I have sold more metazoo this week than the past 6 months combined. I'm about down to where I want to be on what I'm going to hold longer term.
I actually think it would be nice if the company was bought and they did a completely revamp to it, keeping the core concepts of the game and all, but making sure things are done properly and hold value for collectors too. But for that Mike needs to go, I don't see a scenario where Metazoo keeps alive and well with Mike in it.
Personally I'm in the camp of waiting until prices plummet on sealed product to buy because I like the artwork, the general idea, and the(as of right now, definitive) relative small card pool to collect. I own expensive reserve list Magic cards so if I was looking at this as some sort of investment, I'd just buy go buy more of that instead of hoping something takes off like it. I don't know how the gameplay of the actual game is, but I would be happy if it continued under new(hopefully more competent, less scummy) ownership since I'm sure there are people who like the game side of it, but if not, well I would love to crack boxes trying to complete sets without putting serious money into doing so.
oh shoot! did not expect this tonight. What a RIDE! I'll be honest, I thought this was done when the first letter dropped. It's exciting to be wrong. I will say this, Mike does say "We're handling this professionally" but uh.... bro nuked all the socials. That's not what a normal and professional company does. While I have not made my personal distaste for MetaZoo a secret, I do feel bad for the MetaZoo fans. It sucks to have your favorite game nuked. I do genuinely feel for y'all.
He did not say no but he did not say yes. Wait for bandai to announce something before you buy. Also these TH-camrs have something to gain to have metazoo not shut down.
Even negative press brings attention! Whether I agree with the strategy or not. It gets people to pay attention. Knock people down to bring them back up with a Bandai announcement. Cruel but wouldnt surprise me these days
Ebay prices may not be tanking in response to the Bandai rumors that you and others are reporting on. The people owning the largest collections are, for a lack of better words, probably clinging to the news for copium. That said, it will be interesting how much value the sealed product will retain considering Bandai's piss poor track record on TCG's in general
Hey nick thanks for the update! And yes, i agree totally, not much has rly changed. Prbly alot of degens who only speculated and hoarded this stuff now heard its dead and started dumping. The community is rly strong and as long as there is genuine support, the game is not dead. Ive seen it before with OG Dragonball tcg, harry potter wotc tcg, genesis boc, gods unchained and many others. Thanks for the video
I’m new to card collecting. Been looking for good card collector youtubers. You’ve been the best so far. You don’t complain like most of the others I found do.
Did Dr Cards happen to ask WHY ‘Metazoo’ removed the announcement and socials,, only to remove the post and restore socials like they never happened? I didn’t hear or see any reference to this. Nick man, I think you’re great. Dude with the voice of radio over here. Thanks for taking the time and for doing what you do for the comm. 💪
This is what happens when the priority is a secondary market over everything else. Everyone wants to have an instaMTG level market and short-term pumpndump.
Thx for the video , I find this discussion interesting , although it does not change my personal interest in Metazoo one way or the other . One thing I do find strange is that a company as successful as bandai - with its longevity , would jump in as quickly as 3 days ago ??? Surely this would have been a longer term consideration by bandai not a sudden interest , and if true , there would have been rumours way before now ????
I know in business deals, often you can’t say too much until a deal is complete. I do think that amongst the rumors, for the sake of the game something more concrete has to be said. This feels like an NFL scandal 😂😂😂
I honestly feel like these prices support a much healthier market for a relatively new TCG (apart from 30$ boxes) and instead of people buying it for the hype and hoping it will blow up, actually buying it for what it is. The concept of Cryptids is great, the artwork is unique and the game is playable. I see Metazoo having more of a chance now than ever, there's definitely something to build on here.
If the card game dies that’s fine but I want to fuckin see the art for Yokai and the other sets. Even Grimm’s kingdom even though they likely haven’t started working on that
I made a nice investment 6 months ago I got so many cards for pennies and dollars. Serial numbers and refractors I have so many left. All the playing cards are gone though
This sounds so Soon TM* and so on brand for Mike. He's not a part of the discord, but Shaw still is? This feels like Mike wanting to save face and not come off like the villain everyone is making him out to be. If Mike is really not out he needs to say something, anything, even if there is a buyout. This is bs. MetaZoo will also probably drift slowly down until there is no interest if no one buys MetaZoo and it really is closed, the "closure" and drama brought eyes and hype.
Metazoo had such huge potential but sometimes a great idea run by bad business owners and so fourth gets you to were metazoo is by the way all my metazoo collection whats left is for sale
All I know is that people who actually want to play the game have been gone where I stay and have been for about a year now. It's all people who just want to sell it
For years... 350 ish fans of metazoo. Fighting for the first product. Cannibalizing each other for stock. This fan base has some rich people who set the secondary market but it's hollow. Don't be fooled again people
The style of typing does seem like it's Mike. His punctuation use, grammar and tone does match the conversations I've had with him. Now I'm REALLY curious whats going on...
So they just shut down operations, temporarily? Why wouldn't they just say that ? Or did they and then this info surfaced and then they were like Woe ok ... we are back up ? Or maybe it was a hack ? Who knows
dude. w h o k n o w s what's happening. if they're "doing things professionally" what's the strategy in putting out a letter with zero warning that announces the game as dead, only to say "it's not dead we're professionals" a few days later? CONFUSE
It’s not doing bad because of all the rumors people don’t know what to do/believe. The difference between before the announcement was hope and then when the announcement came that stopped and then the rumors and ppl buying again.
Let's look at everything, the partners ang lgs brought to the table. Mike has used everyone in some shape and fashion for just a single goal. The move past everyone with words and action and step ahead. From double dipping to not paying all others in some way. I didn't see target or Walmart getting cheated yet? Thoose are the ones he'll keep in good standing. Unfortunately the SHOW that is METAZOO keep getting crazier and crazier for 99% of any other company to do. This show now I think is to erase the board. Most all partners and big buyers are gone and now he's almost 100% CLEAR with them leaving his next move open / which new bigger partners and ways to move product. A free reset button. If you want someone to leave easy just piss em off right? They have done this many times already. Mike's way is simply total controversy to push everything the way he wants it. And guess what. IT WORKED...the tcg that just won't die....metazoo it self has become a truly cryptid tcg.😂 don't listen to nothing or comment sit back and watch the show.
Copium but understandable copium. When you have a 1/1 item if something you could have sold at the hype for a small fortune and then have to deal with maybe getting fractions of the value
By this time next year if they dont sell out Metazoo will 100% die its needs new sets to keep the Game /TCG alive, most TCGs have a player base and if they stop making new products nobody will play/buy into the game .
Mike just showed 1) he is in control 2) he shut the company down No one in their right mind would buy metazoo, this is yet another lie by Mike. One of how many? Quit buying metazoo on eBay thinking it’s coming back. It’s a dead cat bounce.
"we are treating this professionally" - shuts down the discord, social media, doesn't address all of the outstanding orders and money owed
I think we have different definitions for "professionally"
Liking the game and the art is fine, but at the same time you can agree that the people running MetaZoo are the most unprofessional nitwits in the industry.
If this is true and Mike stays at the company any kind of hope for a "revival" is done. People no longer wish to support Mike and Andy.
Facts💯
He wont, that's why he says "part of the company". There are not many businesses that would be this foolish. Companies do extensive research before acquiring any business.
go find me a "star wars ccg" tournament
Who else waits for Nick to post the next Metazoo video at 1am every morning?
I really loved collecting MetaZoo, but this whole debacle was a complete trust and faith loss for me. I'm selling everything that doesn't have sentimental value to me at this point. I was happily suprised that on Ebay my stuff is actually getting bids. I was really worried the market was gone but I'm happy to get out and at least get some of my money back
Ah okay “professionally”- good old gaslighting even now. There is nothing professional about shutting down the company out of nowhere, rescinding the letter, and effectively leaving everyone in the dark after deleting most socials including personal ones. The fact he talks about the rumors as if they’re hateful considering his outburst is beyond my level of comprehension.
You summed it up perfectly. What a pathetic, manipulative guy. Hope no one buys his company just because of his horrible character.
Retracting the initial closure letter is more than likely due to the outstanding orders and the commitments MetaZoo has made with certain companies. I’m inclined to think it was deleted to avoid any lawsuits it could have incurred and the financial burden Mike would have suffered from any contracts broken. Personally I think it was for self preservation and most likely was advised.
As for Ebay listings, they will continue to be volatile and heavily persuaded by the rumour mills and TH-cam commentary.
Seems like the rumors are keeping the secondary market steady. Initially people were fire selling and accepting any offers. Definitely think you're right on this one.
The thing is I heard about Bandai buying MZ literally months ago. We discussed this in the BBS discord. So weird it popped back up now like it’s new information
Mike is back BABY. To the Moon. No one pushes Big Mike out of his own company.
I can't wait for you to represent Metazoo LLC in the court of law.
Umu secretly loves the Zoo
Mike is a liar. Can't trust anything he says
Baby Mike the Weasel dons his crown again 🥰👑
@cheeseburger8932 unfortunately trademark lawyers aren't that great in a courtroom - unless you're trying to sabotage Metazoo then maybe it's a good idea then lol
The first screenshot looks altered. Second line of first text by Mike is a different font than the rest of the conversation.
"Part of MZ, and it would be cool if Bandai is one of them. If they had proper infrastructure and resources to build out an IP that would be super helpful" - different font and size of font
Good catch!!!!
Oh yeah... that's sketchy innit? good eye.
I have no reason to alter my convo with mike
@@drcardstcg8280 I believe that. But the font does look to be differently sized from line to line. Maybe that's normal?
Reeeeeks of Photoshop forreal
Honestly the Metazoo Ded made me go back and crack some boxes of nightfall, and UFO. The pulls I was getting reinforced that despite the craziness (and depressed values), I still love the cards, the art, the theming. I will buy boxes of nightfall to crack in perpetuity if the prices stay low.
Personally I think this is going to be a reverse effect situation. We know exactly how much is printed, and with Metazoo closing, we know it's not going to keep being printed. This means that anyone that is genuinely interested in MetaZoo or Cryptids will continue to buy the supply as years go on, because it's their only source for experiencing the IP. You're going to get that itch to open Nightfall again in 5 years, then in 10, then 20. There's at least 30,000 other people that are eventually going to get that itch and seek out products as well. MetaZoo is a relatively low supply compared to other TCGs. I don't think it's too dramatic to think that these boxes can get pretty darn expensive, considering there's only 6 sets. You also have to think about how many people just dumped MetaZoo onto the market for dirt cheap. I want to assume that 90% of the people that bought all of that are investors capitalizing on the fear, not collectors, which means even more of the supply is now locked up behind bars for however long they're willing to hold. I spent $5k this week buying up wilderness/UFO at $18-22 and Nightfall/Seance at $33-36. It's all staying locked up with the rest of my backstock until I see triple digits. And I guarantee there's at least a handful of people out there that did the exact same thing this week.
Do people actually buy Metazoo to actually play the game and enjoy its lore? I'm genuinely curious. I feel it's real player base is like a few hundred players, worldwide. Most viewers of videos don't even play, they just like to watch drama it seems. I wonder if Metazoo will truly survive 5 years from now.
It's more than a few hundred, no more than a few thousand if I had to guess. It's a complex game, but you can also modify the rules, take the 4th wall effects out and its actually pretty fun. Think about Mothman fighting Bigfoot! I got into it because I like cryptids, collectors play a big part. Even though many of us are sad with all the BS and drama, it's nice to get the Rudychan's/Timmys and "investors" out of the mix. You can pick cards up for a decent price now. No matter where you live in the U.S., there is probably a card/cryptid close to you to pick up! Many of the stories surrounding these are fun to look up, very dark themes for many of the stories, but I've quite enjoyed it! Also why a bunch of us did not like the hello kitty collab. Like I know a lot about many of these cryptids before metazoo, but learned about a bunch more! Look up the story of "ghost of the sloss furnaces" sometime!
@@starnorth931 Actually yea, I agree its more like 2000-3000 players in total. The average viewership of a metazoo video is like 4k views and at least 1-2k of them must be investors only or drama watchers. I personally don't play or collect the game, but I saw it in my notifications a few years back and I have been following since Cryptid Nation's 1st release. Idk if ill ever get into the game tbh, I don't know a single person that knows or is interested in learning it. I would maybe collect it now that prices are basically nothing. At least all the major cryptids. Maybe its about time...
At what point do we start calling for prison time? Releasing that roadmap a week before the rug pool (to bring back hope and prices) needs to be addressed.
Of course it’s false! This was never the case. There is no deal. Mike is pumping the market so stakeholders can unload. Who would purchase MetaZoo with the level of undelivered preordered product, debt, and mismanagement? Every PE or VC firm compares cost to create/cost to acquire. It’s so much easier to make a new game than to buy this one for those investors.
I think you're correct
Wouldn't it have been easier to not crash the market by posting the shutdown letter before pumping it? 🤔 He easily could have had everyone sell off and _then_ tanked everything
@@hover2go Also a very good point. :D What I was thinking is Mike put out the closure notice. Someone contacted him and said "wait bro"... that's what I was thinking, anyway.
Why would you say that you would still collect the top hitters, if you are selling the top hit cards over on your personal Ebay store? There will never be another 1/1 ever again, and you are selling it.
Because he wants to leave someone else holding the bag and he can't do that if he's talking down on them
@@HammerStudioGamessmh
I mean everyone does it why wouldn't he
even if Metazoo did get sold, why did everyone immediately point to Bandai as the buyer, based on no evidence whatsoever? It could be any number of companies out there.
Because Bandai is a popular company that a lot of people like, that's it.
@@bencox3641 I figured that was the extent of the reasoning 😂
Honestly this whole situation has really been exciting. I’m just enjoying the journey 😊👍🏼 I’m here for the long run.
This company doesn't deserve its amazing community.
I only got into MetaZoo due to rocketing prices in MTG. Loving the cards and I've been buying MZ across the board. There is enough back content on youtube to have a lot of fun with opening the product for the rest of the year even if we get no new product from MZ. Obviously, i now hope we will see some new product at some point. Loving your channel!
Mike got his beach home , Andy has bitches , Metazoo is rumored to be bought by Bandai , everyone wins
“Oh to grow old and lonely in a big empty house, wondering what went wrong with your dream”🥰
Mike sounds like the guy that doesnt want to admit that him and his girl are breaking up
They aren't breaking up bro. She's just over at another guy's place practicing yoga.
@@ryanmiller4297 they aren't breaking up, she's just catching up with an old friend from high school
Let me preface this by saying I’ve always wanted to *play* metazoo. But the fact that investing has been as important if not significantly more important to the discussion has made me have zero interest in supporting the company. Now that it’s dead, I’ve been going out and purchasing complete sets with the goal of putting them into a Cube/draft box to play with friends. That should have been the goal and mindset from the beginning.
I bought the Kickstarter box on eBay for $400. It is legit and factory sealed, not sure why you thought it was empty...
That’s huge! I was able to get a non-alternating kickstarter for 700.00 and another for 850.00
@@CryptidKeeperTCGNice Pickups!! Great deals on eBay the past few days.
Negativity sells.... Consolidation, and wealth transfer 😂
MetaZoo is dead and from the after-life we're still hearing how the closure was treated "professionally." Get real Michelle Waddell.
Obviously, there's more to this story. To post that they're closing up shop, then to take the post down, is weird. MZ socials are gone. Reddit is set to private. Support @ metazoo is no longer a working web address. MZ is closing. Will it be sold? Maybe. I think it depends on how far along MZ has gotten with its 3D modeling of the characters that was being put together over last year. I forget the name of the studio, but it was a prominent studio. If MZ has a ton of 3d assets for all of the characters then maybe a company like Bandai would be interested. I think it's unlikely but idk.
The discord is still effectively shut down. That's not a good look regardless of what's happening. The radio silence is deafening.
If someone has access to mike why would the first thing asked be about selling the company and not about the refunds for all the pre ordered products?
Albeit at a lower price I have sold more metazoo this week than the past 6 months combined. I'm about down to where I want to be on what I'm going to hold longer term.
I actually think it would be nice if the company was bought and they did a completely revamp to it, keeping the core concepts of the game and all, but making sure things are done properly and hold value for collectors too. But for that Mike needs to go, I don't see a scenario where Metazoo keeps alive and well with Mike in it.
Personally I'm in the camp of waiting until prices plummet on sealed product to buy because I like the artwork, the general idea, and the(as of right now, definitive) relative small card pool to collect. I own expensive reserve list Magic cards so if I was looking at this as some sort of investment, I'd just buy go buy more of that instead of hoping something takes off like it. I don't know how the gameplay of the actual game is, but I would be happy if it continued under new(hopefully more competent, less scummy) ownership since I'm sure there are people who like the game side of it, but if not, well I would love to crack boxes trying to complete sets without putting serious money into doing so.
All the drama in the wake of its death has certainly boosted interest in the game. I'll be shocked if this persists for the rest of the month!
Not sure why Bandai would buy this debt trap when they have One Piece, Digimon and DBS.
Why didn’t he ask if it’s still “closing down” why didn’t he ask about pre orders? I mean COME ON
I love your videos Nick. Keep it up. Metazoo would be such a great netflix series.
Nicki Minaj just dropped a bigfoot song. Special metazoo collab......that's the word on the street.
oh shoot! did not expect this tonight. What a RIDE! I'll be honest, I thought this was done when the first letter dropped. It's exciting to be wrong.
I will say this, Mike does say "We're handling this professionally" but uh.... bro nuked all the socials. That's not what a normal and professional company does.
While I have not made my personal distaste for MetaZoo a secret, I do feel bad for the MetaZoo fans. It sucks to have your favorite game nuked. I do genuinely feel for y'all.
He did not say no but he did not say yes. Wait for bandai to announce something before you buy. Also these TH-camrs have something to gain to have metazoo not shut down.
Mike and Andy are both stable geniuses.
I don't know how the board is possibly good with Andy. And worse yet, still trust Mike after making Andy CEO. VERY FISHY
Even negative press brings attention! Whether I agree with the strategy or not. It gets people to pay attention. Knock people down to bring them back up with a Bandai announcement. Cruel but wouldnt surprise me these days
Ebay prices may not be tanking in response to the Bandai rumors that you and others are reporting on. The people owning the largest collections are, for a lack of better words, probably clinging to the news for copium. That said, it will be interesting how much value the sealed product will retain considering Bandai's piss poor track record on TCG's in general
im loving this series
😎🍿
People like downfall stories that’s why influx in videos and views, people are buying for shits and giggles imo
Idk man that first screenshot looks hella fake
Hey nick thanks for the update! And yes, i agree totally, not much has rly changed. Prbly alot of degens who only speculated and hoarded this stuff now heard its dead and started dumping. The community is rly strong and as long as there is genuine support, the game is not dead. Ive seen it before with OG Dragonball tcg, harry potter wotc tcg, genesis boc, gods unchained and many others. Thanks for the video
I’m new to card collecting. Been looking for good card collector youtubers. You’ve been the best so far. You don’t complain like most of the others I found do.
Love that you quoted my comment
Did Dr Cards happen to ask WHY ‘Metazoo’ removed the announcement and socials,, only to remove the post and restore socials like they never happened? I didn’t hear or see any reference to this.
Nick man, I think you’re great. Dude with the voice of radio over here. Thanks for taking the time and for doing what you do for the comm. 💪
This is what happens when the priority is a secondary market over everything else. Everyone wants to have an instaMTG level market and short-term pumpndump.
The only tricky thing is cryptids by their nature can’t be copyrighted. The game itself can though. All of that is very nebulous I have to say
I enjoy Metazoo, I do like the card art! Just angry at the nuking by the creator, really dirty!
I thought there was another rumor that someone was interested in MetaZoo but they don't want Mike to have anything to do with it's future
The way he’s being evasive and speaking cryptically indirectly through TH-camrs is so immature
Thx for the video , I find this discussion interesting , although it does not change my personal interest in Metazoo one way or the other .
One thing I do find strange is that a company as successful as bandai - with its longevity , would jump in as quickly as 3 days ago ???
Surely this would have been a longer term consideration by bandai not a sudden interest , and if true , there would have been rumours way before now ????
Poketubers coving the MZ drama got me into MZ the other day. I’m buying if the price is right
Great video Nick. Same here still love the zoo but patiently waiting to see what will happen
I picked up a kickstarter box for $850 :)
Whether it goes up or down I'm happy to get one
Metazoo buzzing at an all time high for sure
mike needs to shut up and let the company get sold. saying this as a metazoo lover lol
I know in business deals, often you can’t say too much until a deal is complete. I do think that amongst the rumors, for the sake of the game something more concrete has to be said. This feels like an NFL scandal 😂😂😂
I honestly feel like these prices support a much healthier market for a relatively new TCG (apart from 30$ boxes) and instead of people buying it for the hype and hoping it will blow up, actually buying it for what it is.
The concept of Cryptids is great, the artwork is unique and the game is playable.
I see Metazoo having more of a chance now than ever, there's definitely something to build on here.
This whole situation actually made me finally jump the gun and buy 1 of every box to display.
More of a chance now than ever? The company shut down.
You gonna talk about that sealed Otherverse box in front of you? 👀
If the card game dies that’s fine but I want to fuckin see the art for Yokai and the other sets. Even Grimm’s kingdom even though they likely haven’t started working on that
People are really making videos about doctored/fake screenshots now
Good catch, these are most definitely doctored screenshots....
None of those screenshots are altered. I have no reason to fake my convo with Mike last night.
@@drcardstcg8280 It could be how he transposed them onto the video, they just look a bit off.
@@drcardstcg8280yes you do lol
How so??
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I made a nice investment 6 months ago I got so many cards for pennies and dollars. Serial numbers and refractors I have so many left. All the playing cards are gone though
Do we forget that ALL the artist officially left
In the first comment by “Mike Waddell” the font changes halfway though which is sus
This sounds so Soon TM* and so on brand for Mike. He's not a part of the discord, but Shaw still is? This feels like Mike wanting to save face and not come off like the villain everyone is making him out to be. If Mike is really not out he needs to say something, anything, even if there is a buyout. This is bs. MetaZoo will also probably drift slowly down until there is no interest if no one buys MetaZoo and it really is closed, the "closure" and drama brought eyes and hype.
So how do they respond to all of these chargebacks? I can almost guarantee its not a small dollar amount
Metazoo had such huge potential but sometimes a great idea run by bad business owners and so fourth gets you to were metazoo is by the way all my metazoo collection whats left is for sale
METAZOO is back y’all IP safe and going places . IPO soon
All I know is that people who actually want to play the game have been gone where I stay and have been for about a year now. It's all people who just want to sell it
The mystery of metazoo continues
For years... 350 ish fans of metazoo. Fighting for the first product. Cannibalizing each other for stock. This fan base has some rich people who set the secondary market but it's hollow. Don't be fooled again people
I want to know why he posted that metazoo was closing and then took down the post.
I've been selling well on Ebay. I'm gonna keep some stiff but I have zero faith in the TCG anymore lol
I used to go to Dr Cards lgs all the time to buy the zoo and can confirm he is a great guy and good source.
The style of typing does seem like it's Mike. His punctuation use, grammar and tone does match the conversations I've had with him. Now I'm REALLY curious whats going on...
So they just shut down operations, temporarily? Why wouldn't they just say that ? Or did they and then this info surfaced and then they were like Woe ok ... we are back up ? Or maybe it was a hack ? Who knows
Scammers 🎉
If they had proper resources and infrastructure. Bandai. If?
dude. w h o k n o w s what's happening. if they're "doing things professionally" what's the strategy in putting out a letter with zero warning that announces the game as dead, only to say "it's not dead we're professionals" a few days later? CONFUSE
It’s not doing bad because of all the rumors people don’t know what to do/believe. The difference between before the announcement was hope and then when the announcement came that stopped and then the rumors and ppl buying again.
Mike sucks at running a business. No way MetaZoo gets back to its former glory. However, there is hope that it doesn't just "die"
Let's look at everything, the partners ang lgs brought to the table. Mike has used everyone in some shape and fashion for just a single goal. The move past everyone with words and action and step ahead. From double dipping to not paying all others in some way. I didn't see target or Walmart getting cheated yet? Thoose are the ones he'll keep in good standing. Unfortunately the SHOW that is METAZOO keep getting crazier and crazier for 99% of any other company to do. This show now I think is to erase the board. Most all partners and big buyers are gone and now he's almost 100% CLEAR with them leaving his next move open / which new bigger partners and ways to move product. A free reset button. If you want someone to leave easy just piss em off right? They have done this many times already. Mike's way is simply total controversy to push everything the way he wants it. And guess what. IT WORKED...the tcg that just won't die....metazoo it self has become a truly cryptid tcg.😂 don't listen to nothing or comment sit back and watch the show.
Copium but understandable copium. When you have a 1/1 item if something you could have sold at the hype for a small fortune and then have to deal with maybe getting fractions of the value
By this time next year if they dont sell out Metazoo will 100% die its needs new sets to keep the Game /TCG alive, most TCGs have a player base and if they stop making new products nobody will play/buy into the game .
Here we go.
I’m about to pick up some of this stuff. Just to rip, maybe some first Ed boxes. Go for the Mothman chase
Looks super edited
Why would Mike the A-H nuke Metazoo then?
I have a bunch of green and gold refractors /99 and /50. Hmu
They are "treating this professionally?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! If that is Mike, dude has ZERO clue what "professionally" means...
Mike still active when he owns a lot of people ?
Thanks Nick.
Viva Metazoo!
Metapoo is over, please stop thinking it’s ever coming back, it lasted 3 years longer then it should have already
Mike just showed 1) he is in control 2) he shut the company down
No one in their right mind would buy metazoo, this is yet another lie by Mike. One of how many? Quit buying metazoo on eBay thinking it’s coming back. It’s a dead cat bounce.
MetaZoo is dead! Long live MetaZoo!
Metazoo got infected by the T Virus, now they are UNdead
I don't see why anyone would buy it. There is no IP. Bandai could just start their own cryptid TCG. Sounds like more bullshit.
Why on earth would you start a new "cryptid" game and FOREVER be known as the fartboy lil' bro of METAZOO!!!!
@@starnorth931 You probably wouldn't but it's better than buying an already tainted company.