The fact that all the other three ladies stand together and Alysa stands by herself speaks volumes. Rose and Shannon didn’t even work together. And Holly just seems like an honest person
Or people just need to move on and stop holding grudges from shit that happened 30+ years ago. People grow up and change they could talk all this out in private but chose not to. Alyssa is the only one that’s grown. Shanna and Rose haven’t.
It’s easy to say, “Get over it”, when she wasn’t the one who was fired. She is totally trying to make herself the victim. At the same time, she’s not really denying or sincerely apologizing.
She never apologized to them and made herself the victim. It’s weird she responded this way, and where’s the accountability for how she treated Shannon or Rose not the fans. It’s almost like she wants the fans to turn against Shannon and Rose with this response.
What does she need to apologize for? Sorry Shannen got brain cancer & died & that Rose got abused & has ptsd,but that is not Alyssa's fault.In all actuality, Alyssa could of left the show & done more movies & headline shows.
Alyssa still doesn't get it. Love her, but her ideology that they need to get over it and move on because she has is absurd. She's making it out like everyone is mad at her. They're just telling what happened after years of lying, being vague, and sparring fans of the truth that was Alyssa's role. Do I think Shannen or Holly was innocent? Hell no!!! Do I think they have a right to talk about it? Absolutely. Whether it goes in a book or airs on a podcast, they have a right to discuss it. So, when Alyssa says things like, "it's been almost a quarter of a century," it feels like she's really downplaying it like she didn't try to ruin someone's career. How can you heal from something you can barely admit to doing?
I feel like she’s downplaying it and it’s bothering the shit out of me. I’d like to believe it isn’t intentional because, I get it, she wants to move on. When you’ve done messed up things in the past, and evolved past that point, it’s hard to hear about that stuff over and over again. One thing my grandmother used to say is that “you can’t wrong someone, then tell them how mad to get or when to let it go.” Shannon has the right to talk about this until she’s blue in the face because it damn near destroyed her career. You can forgive, but forgetting is hard.
Both of you have raised FANTASTIC points, both of which I think too. She’s downplaying and she too spoke about it in an interview in 2021 to promote her book lol. So how is she saying that they need to move on when she brought it up as still talks about it. She’s scared she got caught and it’s finally out there. I really hope she has actually processed what the girls have said and not looked at it as an attack because it clearly wasn’t. I hate the fact she keeps saying “hurt people hurt people”. She to me is so lost in all of this and so out of touch. I’d like to think she means well but when given the opportunity to confront the issue, she chooses to be vague and stir the pot.
At this point, all anyone is doing is rehashing her side of the she-said-she-said story. There is no concrete evidence for what any of them have been saying, we just have testimonies from the crew and guest stars -- and even they all pick different sides! It's almost been 20 years since the last episode was filmed, and these women are still holding on to such anger and spite. Even if they were wronged then, I'm sure between 20 and 28 years of time have fuzzied the best of memory (making their evidenceless stories even more questionable). It is simply not a healthy way to live. "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned." -- Buddha
@IDontWantThisStupidHandle But they don't appear to be angry. They're just telling their side of things. Many fans don't keep up with the panels the women do several times a year where they are still asked questions related to Shannen's departure from the show. She is addressing it because she is fighting cancer. It affected them all.
the fact that she did things like her and her mother visiting holly in the hospital then taking over and blocking shannen from going in to see her friend while holly was too sick to know what was going on, later feeling hurt that shannen didnt come to visit her, not knowing that alyssa & her mom had pretended to be holly's family & blocked shannen from getting in. that gaslighting had caused hurt feelings between shannen & holly. doing things like that & being competitive/ugly to shannen to create a toxic atmosphere on set, then going to a shrink to set up grounds for a lawsuit against the production, claiming a toxic atmosphere had caused her mental anguish, scaring the producers into firing shannen because they were afraid alyssa had set up the grounds to sue them for a hostile workplace and thinking theyd get away w firing shannen coz she'd been fired before and she hadnt fought back. then when holly tried to leave they threatened to blackball her and badmouth her to any potential job. alyssa knew what she did. that's why she wants them to move on: so people wont know what a monster she turned out to be. re rose, alyssa took over the me too movement that someone else started, & was acting holier than thou about it while rose was the one who had suffered, not alyssa.
I’m not coming here to villainize anyone, but man those wheels were turning over and over and over trying to figure out how to stay in the clear in this cancel culture we live in. It would be less uncomfortable if she just spoke authentically and wasn’t worried about being cancelled. I was uncomfortable watching this because it felt so inauthentic, not dishonest, just inauthentic.
There's no such thing as cancel culture nobody owes you an audience a living or anything else if people stop choosing to purchase your product you're not being canceled it's called free market capitalism
@@RPowell1980 Well, Holly was hired before Alyssa. In fact, according to the podcast, Holly read the script even before Shannen did, and pushed her to read it. It was in the back of Shannen's car. She deserved top billing when Shannen left, not Alyssa. Alyssa was checked out. Holly and Brian were keeping that show afloat.
I don't believe anything she says, she loves the drama it brings her attention. Instead of just answering questions here she made a point to post the transcript of what she said about the shannen drama on her instagram. That's just asking for even more drama. used to really like her but I now see her as very fake. And her being like a face of the me too movement but not believing rose says a lot.
Why would she desire the attention? Most of its negative attention that causes stress on her life. I think she is just telling her side of the story and responding to people who keep bringing it up. First people say she doesn’t address the issue but then when she does people think she is fishing for attention. That doesn’t make sense.
@@Markmatthewlukenjohn it 's no coincidence that so many of the cast can do things together except her- shannen holly rose brian and drew and sometimes gregory are all able to sit together. and alyssa is trash for being like the face of the me too and dismissing what rose went through. lost respect after that.
@@jessicas5801 how did she dismiss what rose went through? I don’t see that anywhere. It’s crazy how you people just make stuff up about her to try and prove whatever idea you have of her in your head.
@@Markmatthewlukenjohn rose said it in her nightline interview a few years back and said it was because alyssas husband is in the CAA and helped cover up abuse. and alyssa always said believe all women up until someone accused joe biden and then she said not to believe her, double standards.
No, you know what - it's ok. We've got it. You like it, all of the rest of us stopped. Don't bother yourself by replying on every possible statement. @@Markmatthewlukenjohn
I agree that it was a lifetime ago, but it was the highlight of their careers. None of them did anything bigger than Charmed. It’s their legacy, which means it needs to be restored. Especially if they are still promoting it.
There is nobody in the line up out of Rose McGowan, Holly Marie Combs, or Shannen Dougherty that has shared one good thing about Alyssa Milano. They all said she's drama, a b*tch, & also that she caused nothing but trouble on the Charmed set behind the scenes. There was even talk about a Charmed movie & literally nobody wanted to work with her again. Now Alyssa wants to make amends all these years later & I guarantee it's only to stop any negativity or backlash that is rightfully putting her in a bad light. If she wanted peace & professionalism maybe she should have given some thought into how she presents herself to others & her actions. And she shows her true character not only in past events but look at this stunt she pulled with creating a GoFundMe page for her son's baseball team when I'm sure after all the years she has spent acting that she is most likely a multi millionaire & was just too greedy to financially support this cause on her own dime.
Shannen holly and rose were the mean ones. That’s why Alyssa threatened to sue because she was being harassed and when she fights back and defends herself against them then she’s called a bitch and doesn’t work well with people. She doesn’t get that kind of criticism from other co stars or producers from other shows only on Charmed.
Didn't share not one good thing but Shannen and Holly were both Alyssa's bridesmaids so I'm not buying that. They fell out fine but let's not act like they didn't have good times together at some point
@@bydivadream Holly has known Shannen the longest. They said in the podcast that they were friends prior to Charmed. I hadn't known this before hearing it in Shannen's podcast. Holly & Rose are also tight, there was also a video call between them where they discuss not getting along with Alyssa & how if a movie was made that they really didn't want to work with Alyssa again.
She should be sad for the fans because Prue was the best for charmed and it would have been better if you hadn't cheated us out of her . the show would have been much better if you had left because you went on to make Rose and Marie miserable.
What in the f type of “apology” was that??! More like narcissistic abusers who blame their victims for bringing up what they did. She’s sorry to the fans because her victims tarnished the show’s reputation by talking about the abuse she inflicted??? Yes. So sorry to the fans. Boohoo. As if she’s apologizing on behalf of her former costars who hate her. What a creepy way to show who she really is.
@@ndo533 there’s a bunch of other videos on it you can look up if you want. I think you’d have to watch the videos yourself and I don’t really want to go into explaining it anyway. It wasn’t just Rose McGowan. It was Shannon Doherty too that Milano was torturing. And if you don’t think it was abusive, please don’t tell me about it. My original comment wasn’t an invitation to discuss whether or not there was abuse. It was about her “apology”. You can look up the whole thing yourself and save your LOLs for someone else. Bye now.
@tnijoo5109 lmaoo yea whatever. I've seen those videos. They all need to grow up and so do you since you don't know what actually constitutes as abuse.
@ndo533 how about getting shannen fired? That was such severe abuse it ruined shannen's life. And how about lying about her and withholding the truth about getting her fired? That's abuse. How about gaslighting the fans, her coworkers, and threatening the producers with a lawsuit if they didn't fire shannen? There were no arguments on set. All the drama happened outside of the workplace during charmed. How about when she put out false stories to the press about shannen and then Rose? Her abuse goes deep. I knew them both and saw it first hand. When she has to sit on stage ALONE, while the other 3 stars are united together, you know who's a liar and who's telling the truth.
Omg the DRAMA. But seriously, I think Alyssa is missing the point lol. She may have done an interview in 2021, admitting to what happened but so vaguely - she has yet to address Shannen/Rose personally. I thought Holly was on good terms with Alyssa but Holly has unfollowed her on instagram. I think Alyssa is somewhat out of touch with what really transpired and how to act properly. Rose never claimed she was personally targeted like Shannen was, she just said that Alyssa was a nightmare to work with as she made the set “toxic af”. Alyssa loves to play innocent and play dumb lol. It’s really quite obvious. I don’t think Alyssa is horrible deep down but she’s caught in a web of lies that have spanned across her entire career. As Rose said, she may be a sociopath.
I hope one day she understands that accountability is key to healing. She talks about being a healed person, but she doesn’t address and take ownership of her contributions that led to a toxic work environment. Acknowledging her role and actions that hurt others is key to ensuring that you don’t repeat these same errors in the future and gives the people you harmed the chance to progress on their own path to healing. Alyssa is sadly believing that she is being persecuted, but that is not the case. She is just being held accountable for past actions. Her telling people to “move on” indicates she doesn’t understand or worse doesn’t care how she hurt others.
Just that Shannon Doherty is known for being hard to work with (90210). Holly Marie Combs was friends with Alyssa Milano the whole time and said only nice things about her for years even after charmed, and now she suddenly says only bad things about Milano, don't you think that's weird and shows Combs real Character? And McGowan, well she has a problem with Milano for being married to a Talent Agent and all Talent Agents are Rapist and Pedophiles in McGowan eyes. Which shows how out of touch everyone really is I do not say Milano is innocent, I just say EVERYONE LIES for their own motives Doherty is still Butt hurt because she was not the Big Star on the show, after she again started Dramas on one of her shows Combs is Jealous McGowan is just a Sociopathic Narcissist who not once told a Truth in her whole life and well Milano lies she never did anything
I’ve seen both videos, Shannen is telling the truth, she had everything she wanted to say written down and was frank about the whole thing. Alyssa was struggling to even say what she wanted to say because she knew it would be lies, typical narcissist tactics
Damed if you do, damed if you don't. Imo, people are going to hear what they want to hear. I'm a Charmed fan. I loved every character and the actresses/actors that brought them to life.
Exactly, none of them are innocent, so just move on...seriously this ridiculous feud has really become so off-putting that I'm starting to not enjoy watching the show as much as i did before. If women who played sisters cant even put their differences aside, like whats the point of watching that show? What's done is done, move tf on.
@@blade5883 when you say I’m sorry and then you add but or however to the end of it you’re not taking accountability you’re about to explain why it’s not on you
Exactly. And I love that they went as far in the other direction with Paige as they could. Yes she was an irresponsible teen for a bit but after her parents died when she was a teen she really got herself together quick.
Alyssa, did you date Brian Krause while he was still married? If so, that is proof that perhaps you were a huge problem to a 4th lady aswell. His wife!
It sounds like she just wants to just shove everything under the rug so she doesn’t look like the bad guy, sorry Alyssa but it sounds like you’re trying to silence your former co-stars
Milano being as hypocrite and fake as usually. It's like "I ruined the show by making it all about my lousy character even turning it into a celebrity just to fill my endless need of fame and attention in expense of getting the main star fired, trying to separate her from her friend, and turning the experience of the one that came after the one I got fired into a nightmare as well, BUT hey I'm healed and others hurt because are hurt". Girl you literally ruined a good show with your ego and turned the experience of the whole cast into hell, thats why no one from them can't stand you, none of them follows you in social media and they don't even want to be in the same room where you are. But this is the reality about narcissists, they will never realize how sick they are and take responsibility for what they did.
@@taylorbrown8329 lol no but Charmed is my fav show and it was pretty obvious what happened when I first time watched it. It is kinda a relief that truth finally came out after all these years but at the same time it brings back some feelings of impotence some how us felt back then. Still happy she got finally busted and unmasked though
Summary: I want to speak with caution. Im sorry that people can not move past this, and tension is still there. Sorry to the fans for the fallout. It was very hard for me to deal with, and I have worked so hard in life since. I have worked to heal and just know hurt pepple hurt people. All of this happened like 25 years ago and i dont know how people can still hold on to the situation-- idk how else to fix it. And im sorry for whatever part I have had in this, and i take responsibility for it. Very very interesting.
it's almost as if Alyssa doesn't want to take responsibility for what she caused for the series and the fans! i mean, come on, the magnitude of wrong that she did, (causing Shannen to lose her job, ) is just crazy, she thinks that Shannen can just forget all about that and move forward?!? THAT'S MAJOR DAMAGE AND TRAUMA FOR ANYONE AND EVER MORE HARD FOR A CELEBRITY/ACTRESS !! Especially because of the drama Shannen had to endure on the set of Beverly Hills, 90210, which btw Shannen does speak to all the main cast of BH90210! If Alyssa wasn't the cause of what happened then why are Holly and Rose right by Shannen's side through all of this, I mean, they were there and they know what happened!
Maybe in your eyes she's taken responsibility but not in everyone else's ! By the way, you're right, "Rose was not there when Shannen was on the show," but Rose was there with Alyssa on the show, and I'm sure that's why Rose chooses to FULLY support Shannen !
I cannot be sure about her bullying Rose on the set but i believe she really got Shannen fired because it was Holly who revealed it. So Shannen & Holly against her statements. I'd believe the two. But what i can't believe is why it seems very hard for Alyssa to say sorry to Shannen? We can't expect Shannen to forgive when sorry was not even said.
@@mikelyee1934 , I know Shannen got axed. But how do we know for sure that the producer was telling the truth? What if the producer was trying to throw Alyssa under the bus?
@@renealexander2703 why would the producer lie to Holly? What's the point? He's the producer. He can terminate anyone he wishes without the need to justify. But in their case he did state the reason. Besides, the rift on the set was real. Even Alyssa did not deny that
@@mikelyee1934 , I know there was a rift. But what if the men in charge wanted Shannen gone, but wanted Alyssa to take the fall for it or be the bad guy?
one thing i don’t get - why did holly agree to work with alyssa for greys anatomy episode if there was so much tension? for the record i love all 4 women and i love charmed ..
It’s wild that y’all think actors pick who they work with. When you auditioned for a school play, did you pick actors , let alone did you know who you were working with?! It’s like any job, you don’t know who your coworkers are until you arrive. You people need to start being a little bit more REALISTIC in your thinking 😅
Whether you agree or not with what Shannon, Hollie and Rose say they have every right to talk openly about it. Whilst it's not fully clear what went on behind the scenes what is clear is that Alyssa was most likely at the centre of it. When someone tries to 'downplay' something rather than tell the truth it does make them look guilty
No es toxicidad son las vivencias de cada una,ni Holly dijo que fuiste tú que fue el productor que se lo dijo a ella y rose dijo que el set de charmed lo hacías difícil y lo de no dejar ver a Holly en el hospital cuando shannen iva y tú madre eso no está bien tú hacías de todo una competencia no te hagas la dulce paloma o que no ha pasado nada tampoco es así no te preocupes que los fans de charmed no ve empañado nada de la serie
Come on get over it it was 20 years ago! (Rachel sister on Friends). It’s easy for her to say let’s move on but she didn’t get fired from a show while her father was sick and had medical bills to cover. Shannen didn’t try to get her fired but she did. She must admit she was a b*tch and apologize so everyone can move on.
@@Markmatthewlukenjohn so Shannen didn’t get fired cause Alyssa threatened a law suit? And why Alyssa didn’t go through with the lawsuit? Cause she got what she wanted : Shannen fired.
@@adnnebs shannen got herself fired. If Alyssa threatened with a lawsuit then she felt threatened or treated unfairly in some way so maybe shannen wasn’t as innocent as people think. And rose for that matter. I don’t understand why Alyssa always has to be the evil one or the villain in every situation.
@@Markmatthewlukenjohn no one is 100% guilty or 100% innocent but why even Rose said Alyssa made the set toxic AF. Rose is not Shannen’s friend they don’t really know each other. Alyssa herself said they (producers) put them against each other and she acted upon it. Alyssa wanted to be n1 on the call sheet.
Saying she wishes they could all move on is not wrong. She has publicly apologized! Shannon is bitter bitter bitter. Listen to her podcast. Moving on is what adults do.
It cost her 10s of millions of dollars and damaged her career and took away the community she was in. You'd just swallow that up and forget it? Her apology was not addressed to shannen or rose or Holly. It was a deflection to them trying to make her look decent. She owes Grand gestures for what she's done.
This was a very thought out response. No emotion, just thought out. She still hasn't admitted what she did, she still hasn't apologised, she's just focused on herself and what it was like for her while almost sniping at all the other women subtly in her response. This whole thing just felt gross.
my grandma was probably one of the biggest fans of charmed, one of my bonding memories with her is when shed watch charmed and id sit with her and wed drink coffee and watch it, charmed is comforting to me bc of how much she loved it, we even left it on at her memorial dinner, i put it on to comfort me til this day, if my grandma knew about all this drama shed be devastated so i know what alyssa is saying
Interesting how she’s the one sitting alone and the others get on well and share the stage. If Shannon was the problem then how come rose who joined the show later says Alyssa is the issue too
Ok so Charmed is the Anti Scientology movement/ and the other actresses are the CoS ex members &victims/ and the fans are the anti movement community who are let down by the rivalries, egos and infighting that occur between imperfect people who are dealing with their own traumas and not necessarily hearing the others' side/ And Alyssa is the MR (or whoever) who is speaking PR word salad and not really apologizing for their part bc he has or had his own traumas he was/is going through/ But maybe deep down (s)he'd like it to be restored to former glory/ And hopefully if everyone owns their part then the whole community can rebuild trust and be "charmed" again?? Liz would like for everyone to put on big people underpants and get this right bc CoS is the only enemy we should have!! Maybe? Lol
Alyssa this is definitely called gaslighting. All three of them are just lying on you? All three of them? And you're just completely and totally innocent of everything that all three have said, be it alone, or with each other, that you were allegedly definitely the damn problem? I don't believe you!
@@pretendamnesia , I don't know her personally and I don't know Shannen personally. That's my point. I'm not defending Alyssa. I'm defending myself and you. I'm defending the situation. I'm being fair. What if someone accused you of something and everybody started hating on you? Put yourself in Alyssa's shoes. What if that was you? Would you want people hating you for something that went on between you and a co-worker? You don't know Alyssa nor Shannen. So why are you behaving like Alyssa hurt you personally? It's none of our business. She did not hurt me or you.
What I find most interesting about the first three seasons of Charmed is that the actresses' personal work ethics matched each of their characters' personalities (Shannen/Prue taking the job very seriously) Alyssa/Phoebe (just wanting to make everything fun) and Holly/Piper just wanting a normal life. I never quite got a feel for Rose/Paige. Paige was kind of "whatever" learning her way through things but Rose was very, very intense about a lot of things and seems like she is accustomed to living on the edge for the sake of living on the edge, without concern for propriety. I realize that has nothing to do with this interview, but Alyssa spent so much time not really saying anything by slowly and verbosely not answering the question that I got bored. I love her acting though and I'm glad she spends her time being passionate about what she believes. I respect people that do that even if I don't agree with them on some things.
The original "phoebe" had 2 leave cause of her religious beliefs...Im on Holly, Shannen and Rose's side on this one, im most excited that im going 2 actually Meet just HOLLY in 2 weeks...Shes the only one thats coming, but i just cant wait 2 actually see and talk 2 her lol...
She apologized what more can she do? Shannon and Holly bot h had a part in this too.If Alyssa was documenting things that happened and saying it was a hostile workplace ,they weren’t innocent.Neither one has apologized for their actions.
Alyssa was smart and she knew how to get her way on set, that doesn’t make her right though, and I think that’s the problem she just doesn’t seem to get. HUMILITY people it’s not hard, even Holly admits they ALL could have acted better
See, she just wants to sweep it under the rug. The only thing the fans want is a real apology. “I was a bicce, I made the work environment toxic..I had a huge ego” etc This here isn’t an apology. She just keeps sweeping it under the rug
This is really annoying. Alyssa should just state what she did back when the producers acquire the mediator on the set of Charmed. She didn't answer the question. Again, I wonder if Alyssa was pushed to the side by Shannen and Holly. There are 2 sides to a story.
At this point she should just say that she gave ultimatum to producers and made Shannon to be fired. She didn't step in to say anything when the firing process was happening, because she's jealous, because Shannon was the main character of the show. Even if she admits of all her wrongdoings herself people would be more forgiving, because if you admit, you actually have grown as a person, but Alyssa hasn't and that's why she still sits there and says nothing.
When the likeable unproblematic girl starts with "I wanna be very thoughtful with my words" you know shes going to try to make everyone else look stupid
What I think is sad is that Alyssa still won't say sorry or be kind it says a lot about you ... End of the day you were a bully just own it . If you can't say sorry own that you were toxic ... Instead of stating bluberish
I like all of them ❤️I think she answered with a classy and professional response. It’s hard when others don’t get along with you for whatever reason. I understand not everyone is gonna like you but being in the spotlight is rough. The show will always be an absolute fave, so good And Well done, all wonderful actors and people involved. I can watch again and again. I have the special “Charmed” book of Shadows dvd all seasons on dvd. 😊yes I still have DVD player. But I truly love all of them. But they r truly only human. ❤️much love to all involved and gratitude for the legacy of “Charmed”
Not narcissicst,she heal but they didnt not in the same pace she moves on doesnt mean she didnt but she learn she has to forgive herself doesnt mean they do,each parties doesnt interact on less they know she didnt change, so what rest dont affect are life
I have the "gift" lol of differnciating the distinction between real people and "charators" on a show. Im gonna do my best to not let this "tarnish" me. 🙄🤦♀️🤷♀️❤
This is textbook example of the emotionally immature person’s idea of what an actual emotionally mature person would say. She gave herself away completely with this diatribe. She’s the drama. This was condescending and dismissive and so high and mighty. She doesn’t even know what she doesn’t know. Bummer.
wow! never seen anyone dance around a question so much in order to not give an actual answer... n people were going 'aww..' n clapping.. I guess it worked..
I think in one interview she says she owns her part in the shannen fued but thats it she dont touch on rose and her beef rose alledges that she was not welcoming and was very rude kept the set toxic as fuck and she hated when the show would get renewed which sucks cus i loved all seasons and i felt bad she suffered
Exactly. I think it’s unfixable in a lot of ways though. If someone who pretended to admire you and be a friend and they were even in each other’s wedding parties, yet secretly Milano is dotting her I’d and crossing t’s to get Shannen fired. I mean if I were Shannen I would possibly in some way allow myself to forgive them but in reality if someone got me fired by threatening to sue, and remove me from the best job I ever had, I would never want to have anything to do with that person. Shannen has an incredible work ethic and is a good person. Alyssa didn’t bring that same dedication and was insecure and jealous/threatened by Shannen so she goes and gets her fired. She is very two faced. The fact that she still tries to hide behind what happened and her mother denies what they did, is just pathetic but not surprising. Frankly if I were Shannen, I don’t know think I could muster the will to attend any charmed events. The poor girl was the lead who launched the show and she got the boot. It’s rotten stuff.
Given everything that crew members and other actors have said, there wasn’t just ONE bad guy. I’m not gonna point the only finger at her because I don’t believe everything was entirely her fault. I also wasnt a part of it so I don’t really care so I wish all 3 of them the best of luck because it’s none of my business and all of them have things I like! ❤
It felt like she was very nervous and that she really didn't want to cause anyone further pain. Sure she didn't want to put a target on her own back but she did say that she accepted her part in the situation so maybe holding on to this is a bit much?
Listen. Shannen Doherty had a reputation of being cruel on set before Charmed. Was Alyssa there on the other shows? No. So what is her excuse for that??? A divorce? Please. Also I'm not saying Alyssa wasn't problematic then BUT it was over 23 years ago! Some people do not even live that long. Shannen could have chosen soooooo many times to say her truth. Why now? She has cancer yes and I feel sorry that she does, truly, but she can tell her truth without blaming anyone. "LETS BE CLEAR" is about her being honest with a lot of stuff, so why can't she be honest about her behaviour too? A lot of Charmed guest stars have said Alyssa was the nicest and one even said "the other two not so much" so what does that say? All of you jumping on Alyssa saying she's a narcissist - well you know what else narcissists do? Play the victim and cry on stage so people feel sorry for them. Why didn't Alyssa cry on stage? Cause it won't change anything. Meaning. Whether she cries or not people might still believe Shannen over her. Get over it. Alyssa SPOKE to the audience in response to Shannen and Holly, while Shannen READ off a paper. No one is freaking perfect. They were like that then but now everyone is over 50, have kids, other movies and tv shows they do so lets move on. Shannen did not need to bring this whooole thing up 23yrs later. Holly is easily influenced it feels like by others feelings. She followed Alyssa until a few months ago. Rose had nothing to say about what happened during the time on Charmed she wasn't a part of. That's my take. I love them all and it hurts to see all of this come back with the blame game still happening. Protecting the fans is a lame excuse tbh. We are less protected now than if whatever truth came out 23 yrs ago.
You do realize who Alyssa Milano is married to yes? She's married to a VERY POWERFUL man in Hollwyood. It's not hard to do the math on why no one has said anything about her until now. It's also not hard to figure out why producers are backing her because it hurts their narrative if they don't. Shannen took the brunt of the bullets for many years in the court of public opinion but here you are telling her to get over it. Do you not know trauma? Do you not understand how it works? Having to keep the truth in to protect someone else? Milano actually had not much limelight since Who's The Boss. She was actually pretty irrelevant until Charmed but she was still third on the bill to Shannen and Holly. The fact that you're basing how sincere someone is based on a prepared statement versus fumbling over their words and looping is pretty ridiculous. Both Milano and Doherty have said they can't remember exact incidents. They never said things never happened. They said that they don't remember. There's a difference. You need to listen to the whole episode of part 2 'Let's Be Clear' to get the full context of the conversation as Doherty and Combs were clipped out of context. They actually talk more about the male producers segregating the three actresses and pitting them against each other so there was not a Friends situation but somehow everyone is making this about Milano. Funny how that works, but NO she's not a narcissist. It's actually Holly who dishes most of the talk about Milano in the episode and there's not really much said about that. Holly says that she was forced to go back to a show she didn't want to do because they threatened to dock her pay and sue her if she left. She felt like she was married to the mob. And I don't know if you know this but Doherty's replacement on 90210, Tiffany Amber Theissan has publicly said that the girls were difficult and catty to her. So yes, Shannen MAY have been a problem, but she wasn't the only problem. She was just the one who garnered a reputation. Also answer me this; If Shannen was such a problem on set, why would Aaron Spelling then hire her to be the anchor of Charmed? What is your problem? And who are you to police someone who had a traumatic experience and had to keep quiet to protect someone else? The virtue signaling and gaslighting in your post is pretty egregious. Quit stanning.
@lilchicklets I'm not stanning anyone. Shannen had 23 years to tell her side whereas Alyssa has been married to a powerful man for 15 years. Your point there is invalid. Like I said at the beginning, I'm NOT saying Alyssa wasn't problematic then, however, Shannen did seem quite narcissistic in the podcast and some comments after, which is not the opinion of myself only. The FACT that Shannen is still holding on to much anger and resentment after so long is not okay and there are ways to tell your side of the story without blame 2 decades later. I don't really care what you think of my opinion on the drama. Peace to you.
@Princess What exactly did she say that was narcissistic and give the timestamp? And you DO realize that it was Holly who talked mostly about Milano during the podcast episode right? They actually where citing the producers mostly who where trying to pit them against each other to avoid a Friends situation.
@lilchicklets I know what you're saying. I've said things to Holly as well on her Instagram post. The producers sucked. Listen I'm not gonna go through 90min of podcast to pinpoint her words. It's the way she begins her sentences mostly. She speaks from resentment and not from a place of healing. It's hard for me to explain what I mean. I'm about to go sleep anyway. It's past midnight. You can do research yourself if you want. You know what I think? Protecting fans from the truth is not necessary. That was part of their reason for being quiet all this time. We can take it. I wish for Shannen's and everyone else's peace of mind and healing.~
What I will say about this and people can say whatever they want, but as long as it’s been, her telling them to move on is not so much because of her not feeling bad, but it’s because how is she supposed to be looked at in any other way, when it keeps being brought up, you can’t look at her differently. If every time there’s a panel people are asking Well Shannon why did you leave the show And it’s like OK. We all clearly can look it up the answers right there you don’t have to ask her the question every time you see her and truth be told something. A lot of people don’t talk about is this is not Shannon’s first time having issues with someone she had issues on another show she was on as well, so I don’t fully blame Alyssa because I know Shannon’s background also…. Now, as far as Rose, I always felt her issue with Alyssa was displaced because when she talks about it at least the last time I heard her talk about it. She was talking about the fact that Alyssa’s husband was friends with someone that she had a bad experience with and I’m not sure why she blames Alyssa for what her husband‘s friend did but hey, Personally, I love all the girls. I prefer Holly Rose and Alyssa. It just seemed more fun and family like them and personally, I don’t care as much about their personal lives because that takes away from the excitement of the show for me.
Alyssa dear. You have still NOT answered the question. I know your dealing with a lot EVERYONE is. I AM STILL and will ALWAYS be a charmed excited audience member because dispite whatever REALLY happened on the show it was a REALLY fucking amazing bad ass show of its time!!! You were all young actors who were child actors who had been in a very adult MANS world at a very young age. It's to be EXPECTED that something will go down eventually. Its a very corporate hollywood show with many MALE old guys writting producing and signing off on many important things. As a delighted audience member and a fellow actor this is not the first time and not the last that there will be drama on a TV show/Movie set. I can bring to this conversation is why this took so long to speak about and why can't you all just get along and love one another. The on screen chemistry and the very close bond potrayed by the sisters made the audience think that you all were really best friends. You all are very talented actors!! As heart breaking as this is for some fans it's really up to each one of you to call each other up and find the strength to say something that each one desrves to hear. Maybe it wont happen in this life time but hopefully soon. ❤ love and peace
I'm wondering how much of this is organic and how much of this was influenced by social media and other media outlets to cause a spectacle, because Hollywood has been known to encourage drama with its actors as well as it's shows for viewership. I do think they could all return and do a reunion because they are professionals. I have had jobs where I didn't like some of the people I worked with, but my job isn't to be best friends with everyone. It's to do my job and go home. I think a mediator should have all of them in the same room together to hash out EVERYTHING and come to an understanding, because like I've told my mother when it comes to her divorce from my dad in 1978, "There is your memories and there are his memories, then there is the truth." You see what you want to see and that may not be what actually happened. It's called misunderstanding or misreading the situation.
I feel like shes gotten the bad end of thr stick just like Shannen did with 90210. They had more in common probably than not but could never align themselves. What if Jennie Garth was still talking about her beef with Shannen
I don’t think we will ever know what truly happened but with that said Holly and Shannon only talked about the end result not what lead to it. The fact Holly and Shannon didn’t want to go to a mediator and the fact the studio brought someone in tells me this wasn’t as one sided as Shannon and Holly are implying. I also think Shannan history worked against her and it got to the point Alyssa and Shannon couldn’t work together and a change needed to be made. The fact Shannon said she didn’t know their was a problem was a lie because if the studio knew and Shannon refused to fix it then that should speak volumes the other thing is Alyssa wasn’t Shannon first person she had issues with she also didn’t get along with Ted king who ultimately asked to be released by the show. I think this was a unfortunate situation that clearly Shannon/Holly didn’t want to fix and Alyssa decided she couldn’t work with her and gave the studio an ultimatum instead of being a professional and doing her job.
Rose aint exactly a walk in the park herself tho. Not sticking up for Alyssa here per sé, but Rose runs her mouth too. She also seems like an exhausting person to be around at length.
She's the reason this sh!t is continuing b/c she HATES Alyssa Milano, has gone off the rails about her on multi occasions...I really do feel the OG three could've worked this out, but Rose doesn't want that b/c it doesn't fit her agenda, so she keeps stoking the fires to keep it going b/c it's one of the only ways she remains relevant. She has been hugely problematic & manipulative w/other people & their lives (look up the whole messy sitch w/Asia Argento) she uses them, turns on them on a dime when it suits her, & only does ish for attention & clout, & attacks anyone who speaks out against her. Not saying some of what she has spoken on in regards to this, or other issues isn't truth, just saying her motives are all self serving. Also, FWIW, multiple people, from *multiple* other shows-cast, crew, etc...had been reporting awful behaviour from Shannon for years prior to Charmed & after. While I do believe blackballing may have occurred there, I don't think Alyssa was the reason for it.
I’m torn around this because you obviously can’t make these things up there has been enough people now come forward and opened up about the drama on set including her on screen husband Julian McMahon and several writers and producers. And for her to say get over it is just ridiculous you never reached out to heal anything in all these years. Having said that I also believe that if this happened back then why did no one push it further and fight back? If she was as bad as people make out why wasn’t she stopped or taken down so to speak? And I’m not saying anyone is innocent but it’s odd that it was just accepted behaviour?? And Shannen does not fear anyone that’s clear from her tv history so why was she not going against Alyssa at that time if she was in her rights to do so. The person I feel the most sorry for is Holly as it clearly shows she was in the middle of it all and got dragged in to mess and she actually was treated very unfairly by the director/producer
Personally I don't feel she addressed the elephant in the room at all. Taking accountability for her actions may set her free and others. There is a lot of gas lightening. I mean their actors and all but energy doesn't lie, maybe she's struggling with truly forgiving herself and her actions in the past as to why she cant take responsibility and holds a lot of shame. Their acting in charmed was on another level but after all their still human. I don't judge any of them but my discernment is a gift and cant be fooled by the acting skills. Let's hope they can forgive themselves and others. Being angry and resentful towards someone, is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die." Stop leaving out the part of the story where you fucked up. Own it all! Thats what healing is.
I love the show and I didn’t use to believe all the stuff about Alyssa, but seeing this makes me think she really is a narcissist. And also mimics remind me soooo much of Amber Heard’s. Very hard to believe anything she says.
Taking sides is never easy, but I find myself aligning with Team Milano on this issue. She took the appropriate steps by addressing concerns about a co-worker and engaging in mediation, a step that Combs and Doherty may have perceived as beneath them. The termination of Doherty strongly indicates the gravity of the situation. Witnessing Milano being bullied by three former co-stars over something that occurred more than 20 years ago is truly disheartening. By the way, I've created a video addressing this matter where I've included all the juicy details. The revelations are quite mind-boggling, so feel free to check it out and share your thoughts!
I hate taking sides as well, I try to see both situations aligned myself in their shoes and I also sided with Milano. As much as the other fans are going to completely disagree let's be real as women we are completely competitive and petty. It's just human nature, is how we are as humans and when you're on a show or any other job there is always going be competition whether we liked it or not. I do think Alyssa took the important steps to take accountability and if am not mistaken She did personally apologized to Shannon on the phone right? Why does it have to be dragged on like she says? I mean it does suck Shannon lost her job due to conflicts but sometimes you have to let that shit go. It has been more than 25 years and people are still asking her about this? It seems like the roles are reversed now , The 3 ladies are specifically targetting Milano who is literally kept defending herself. We may not like her but least she has the balls to be like yes I fucked up. How many times do I have to say that js js js
@@RedHeadThriller10 I could not agree more. and the fact that the three bullies keep changing the narratives and contradicting themselves says everything about their intentions...
REALITY CHECK: Alyssa’s spoken word was a well made training piece and far far far away from honesty, i still like phoebe, but don’t like Alyssa. You should pay your debts so people can move on, speak the truth, apologize for your actions, the actions that caused Shannen lose her career and be smashed after a three hit years on TV. And remember an apology is what will make you loved. That’s the opinion of a fan from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
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Rose is the opposite to Alyssa, she says the truth even if it hurts herself.... whereas Alyssa is talking around it so badly.
The fact that all the other three ladies stand together and Alysa stands by herself speaks volumes. Rose and Shannon didn’t even work together. And Holly just seems like an honest person
Exactly!
Lol..why does Holly seem like an honest person? Because she's plain looking😂
Other cast mates and producers are standing by her anyway
Holly, honest? 👀
Btw I mean there are co stars, guest stars, producers, and other crew members who are Alyssa's side while those three are delusional 🤷♂️
She is just one of those people who talk and talk and nothing real is coming out. Its the "your truth" crap 🙄
Its called Narcissistic Word Salad
Normally the villain of the story tell their victims to move on
"I know, Sid, I think it's time you got over your mother being murdered, it's been a YEAR!"
- Billy, Scream
@@runarvollan exactly lol
Shannon and Holly weren't innocent little Angel's either.
Or people just need to move on and stop holding grudges from shit that happened 30+ years ago. People grow up and change they could talk all this out in private but chose not to. Alyssa is the only one that’s grown. Shanna and Rose haven’t.
These are grown aas women who won't even accept Alyssa apology. They simply don't like her
It’s easy to say, “Get over it”, when she wasn’t the one who was fired. She is totally trying to make herself the victim. At the same time, she’s not really denying or sincerely apologizing.
She never apologized to them and made herself the victim. It’s weird she responded this way, and where’s the accountability for how she treated Shannon or Rose not the fans. It’s almost like she wants the fans to turn against Shannon and Rose with this response.
What does she need to apologize for? Sorry Shannen got brain cancer & died & that Rose got abused & has ptsd,but that is not Alyssa's fault.In all actuality, Alyssa could of left the show & done more movies & headline shows.
Shes being inauthentic. This is a "media training" response shes giving...
Well she’s married to an elite that likes to exploit people.
She's literally so toxic in her response.
Spoken like a true narcissist.
Alyssa still doesn't get it. Love her, but her ideology that they need to get over it and move on because she has is absurd. She's making it out like everyone is mad at her. They're just telling what happened after years of lying, being vague, and sparring fans of the truth that was Alyssa's role. Do I think Shannen or Holly was innocent? Hell no!!! Do I think they have a right to talk about it? Absolutely. Whether it goes in a book or airs on a podcast, they have a right to discuss it. So, when Alyssa says things like, "it's been almost a quarter of a century," it feels like she's really downplaying it like she didn't try to ruin someone's career. How can you heal from something you can barely admit to doing?
I feel like she’s downplaying it and it’s bothering the shit out of me. I’d like to believe it isn’t intentional because, I get it, she wants to move on. When you’ve done messed up things in the past, and evolved past that point, it’s hard to hear about that stuff over and over again.
One thing my grandmother used to say is that “you can’t wrong someone, then tell them how mad to get or when to let it go.”
Shannon has the right to talk about this until she’s blue in the face because it damn near destroyed her career. You can forgive, but forgetting is hard.
Both of you have raised FANTASTIC points, both of which I think too.
She’s downplaying and she too spoke about it in an interview in 2021 to promote her book lol.
So how is she saying that they need to move on when she brought it up as still talks about it. She’s scared she got caught and it’s finally out there.
I really hope she has actually processed what the girls have said and not looked at it as an attack because it clearly wasn’t. I hate the fact she keeps saying “hurt people hurt people”. She to me is so lost in all of this and so out of touch.
I’d like to think she means well but when given the opportunity to confront the issue, she chooses to be vague and stir the pot.
At this point, all anyone is doing is rehashing her side of the she-said-she-said story. There is no concrete evidence for what any of them have been saying, we just have testimonies from the crew and guest stars -- and even they all pick different sides!
It's almost been 20 years since the last episode was filmed, and these women are still holding on to such anger and spite. Even if they were wronged then, I'm sure between 20 and 28 years of time have fuzzied the best of memory (making their evidenceless stories even more questionable). It is simply not a healthy way to live.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned." -- Buddha
@IDontWantThisStupidHandle But they don't appear to be angry. They're just telling their side of things. Many fans don't keep up with the panels the women do several times a year where they are still asked questions related to Shannen's departure from the show. She is addressing it because she is fighting cancer. It affected them all.
U clearly didn’t get her point
I see why the other three don’t like you Alyssa. She’s a toxic gaslighter.
You got all that from this clip?
the fact that she did things like her and her mother visiting holly in the hospital then taking over and blocking shannen from going in to see her friend while holly was too sick to know what was going on, later feeling hurt that shannen didnt come to visit her, not knowing that alyssa & her mom had pretended to be holly's family & blocked shannen from getting in. that gaslighting had caused hurt feelings between shannen & holly. doing things like that & being competitive/ugly to shannen to create a toxic atmosphere on set, then going to a shrink to set up grounds for a lawsuit against the production, claiming a toxic atmosphere had caused her mental anguish, scaring the producers into firing shannen because they were afraid alyssa had set up the grounds to sue them for a hostile workplace and thinking theyd get away w firing shannen coz she'd been fired before and she hadnt fought back. then when holly tried to leave they threatened to blackball her and badmouth her to any potential job. alyssa knew what she did. that's why she wants them to move on: so people wont know what a monster she turned out to be.
re rose, alyssa took over the me too movement that someone else started, & was acting holier than thou about it while rose was the one who had suffered, not alyssa.
@@1assetshe apologized and you're still mad
I’m not coming here to villainize anyone, but man those wheels were turning over and over and over trying to figure out how to stay in the clear in this cancel culture we live in.
It would be less uncomfortable if she just spoke authentically and wasn’t worried about being cancelled. I was uncomfortable watching this because it felt so inauthentic, not dishonest, just inauthentic.
There's no such thing as cancel culture nobody owes you an audience a living or anything else if people stop choosing to purchase your product you're not being canceled it's called free market capitalism
Season 1 to 3 Opening Credits: Shannon, Holly, Alyssa (No.3)
Season 4 - onwards Opening Credits: Alyssa (No. 1), Rose, Holly
Just saying
Alyssa wanted to be number 1 on the call sheet and wont own it.
Agreed. She’s a narcissist. Shannen made her look like an amateur. Pity Alyssa ruined the show.
good thing about holly getting the last spot was she got the “and” “as piper” which was supposed to bring more attention to her character
@itsnotliam3 after Shannen was booted it was Holly's character that became the glue that kept the show together, she became the soul of Charmed
@@RPowell1980 Well, Holly was hired before Alyssa. In fact, according to the podcast, Holly read the script even before Shannen did, and pushed her to read it. It was in the back of Shannen's car. She deserved top billing when Shannen left, not Alyssa. Alyssa was checked out. Holly and Brian were keeping that show afloat.
"I know, Sid, I think it's time you got over your mother being murdered, it's been a YEAR!"
- Billy, Scream
Alyssa didn't kill anyone, get tf over yourselves
One thing I notice when I look at comments on Charmed videos is how diverse the fandom is. Seems like people from many walks of life loved the show.
She doesn't sound sincere, and her explanations sound fake as she trips over her own tongue trying to deflect blame on others.
Well it was ok for Alyssa to tell her to move on she got to stay in Charmed til the end Shannen didn’t. Bet she’d still be bitter if she’d been fired.
I don't believe anything she says, she loves the drama it brings her attention. Instead of just answering questions here she made a point to post the transcript of what she said about the shannen drama on her instagram. That's just asking for even more drama. used to really like her but I now see her as very fake. And her being like a face of the me too movement but not believing rose says a lot.
Why would she desire the attention? Most of its negative attention that causes stress on her life. I think she is just telling her side of the story and responding to people who keep bringing it up. First people say she doesn’t address the issue but then when she does people think she is fishing for attention. That doesn’t make sense.
@@Markmatthewlukenjohn it 's no coincidence that so many of the cast can do things together except her- shannen holly rose brian and drew and sometimes gregory are all able to sit together. and alyssa is trash for being like the face of the me too and dismissing what rose went through. lost respect after that.
@@jessicas5801 how did she dismiss what rose went through? I don’t see that anywhere. It’s crazy how you people just make stuff up about her to try and prove whatever idea you have of her in your head.
@@Markmatthewlukenjohn rose said it in her nightline interview a few years back and said it was because alyssas husband is in the CAA and helped cover up abuse. and alyssa always said believe all women up until someone accused joe biden and then she said not to believe her, double standards.
No, you know what - it's ok. We've got it. You like it, all of the rest of us stopped. Don't bother yourself by replying on every possible statement. @@Markmatthewlukenjohn
I agree that it was a lifetime ago, but it was the highlight of their careers. None of them did anything bigger than Charmed. It’s their legacy, which means it needs to be restored. Especially if they are still promoting it.
There is nobody in the line up out of Rose McGowan, Holly Marie Combs, or Shannen Dougherty that has shared one good thing about Alyssa Milano. They all said she's drama, a b*tch, & also that she caused nothing but trouble on the Charmed set behind the scenes. There was even talk about a Charmed movie & literally nobody wanted to work with her again. Now Alyssa wants to make amends all these years later & I guarantee it's only to stop any negativity or backlash that is rightfully putting her in a bad light. If she wanted peace & professionalism maybe she should have given some thought into how she presents herself to others & her actions. And she shows her true character not only in past events but look at this stunt she pulled with creating a GoFundMe page for her son's baseball team when I'm sure after all the years she has spent acting that she is most likely a multi millionaire & was just too greedy to financially support this cause on her own dime.
Also , she apparently married to a multimillionaire.
Shannen holly and rose were the mean ones. That’s why Alyssa threatened to sue because she was being harassed and when she fights back and defends herself against them then she’s called a bitch and doesn’t work well with people. She doesn’t get that kind of criticism from other co stars or producers from other shows only on Charmed.
Didn't share not one good thing but Shannen and Holly were both Alyssa's bridesmaids so I'm not buying that. They fell out fine but let's not act like they didn't have good times together at some point
I genuinely thought Holly was closest to Alyssa all this time up until this most recent incident.
@@bydivadream Holly has known Shannen the longest. They said in the podcast that they were friends prior to Charmed. I hadn't known this before hearing it in Shannen's podcast.
Holly & Rose are also tight, there was also a video call between them where they discuss not getting along with Alyssa & how if a movie was made that they really didn't want to work with Alyssa again.
She should be sad for the fans because Prue was the best for charmed and it would have been better if you hadn't cheated us out of her . the show would have been much better if you had left because you went on to make Rose and Marie miserable.
She didnt say anything just talked in circles and wished them well which is fine but wish she wouldve been like no comment but i wish them well
What in the f type of “apology” was that??! More like narcissistic abusers who blame their victims for bringing up what they did. She’s sorry to the fans because her victims tarnished the show’s reputation by talking about the abuse she inflicted??? Yes. So sorry to the fans. Boohoo. As if she’s apologizing on behalf of her former costars who hate her. What a creepy way to show who she really is.
Lol what abuse?
@@ndo533 there’s a bunch of other videos on it you can look up if you want. I think you’d have to watch the videos yourself and I don’t really want to go into explaining it anyway. It wasn’t just Rose McGowan. It was Shannon Doherty too that Milano was torturing. And if you don’t think it was abusive, please don’t tell me about it. My original comment wasn’t an invitation to discuss whether or not there was abuse. It was about her “apology”. You can look up the whole thing yourself and save your LOLs for someone else. Bye now.
@tnijoo5109 lmaoo yea whatever. I've seen those videos. They all need to grow up and so do you since you don't know what actually constitutes as abuse.
@ndo533 how about getting shannen fired? That was such severe abuse it ruined shannen's life. And how about lying about her and withholding the truth about getting her fired? That's abuse. How about gaslighting the fans, her coworkers, and threatening the producers with a lawsuit if they didn't fire shannen? There were no arguments on set. All the drama happened outside of the workplace during charmed. How about when she put out false stories to the press about shannen and then Rose? Her abuse goes deep. I knew them both and saw it first hand. When she has to sit on stage ALONE, while the other 3 stars are united together, you know who's a liar and who's telling the truth.
Im a fan of the show and Im still heated that I didnt get a chance to see Prue grow her powers. Im 44. I cant let it go cause Im petty like that. 😂
Omg the DRAMA. But seriously, I think Alyssa is missing the point lol. She may have done an interview in 2021, admitting to what happened but so vaguely - she has yet to address Shannen/Rose personally.
I thought Holly was on good terms with Alyssa but Holly has unfollowed her on instagram.
I think Alyssa is somewhat out of touch with what really transpired and how to act properly. Rose never claimed she was personally targeted like Shannen was, she just said that Alyssa was a nightmare to work with as she made the set “toxic af”.
Alyssa loves to play innocent and play dumb lol. It’s really quite obvious.
I don’t think Alyssa is horrible deep down but she’s caught in a web of lies that have spanned across her entire career. As Rose said, she may be a sociopath.
How do you know it’s not rose McGowan and the other girls who are out of touch with reality? Alyssa gets all the blame but for nothing.
Agreed. The playing dumb part comes real natural for Alyssa.
I hope one day she understands that accountability is key to healing. She talks about being a healed person, but she doesn’t address and take ownership of her contributions that led to a toxic work environment. Acknowledging her role and actions that hurt others is key to ensuring that you don’t repeat these same errors in the future and gives the people you harmed the chance to progress on their own path to healing. Alyssa is sadly believing that she is being persecuted, but that is not the case. She is just being held accountable for past actions. Her telling people to “move on” indicates she doesn’t understand or worse doesn’t care how she hurt others.
Uh no, please.
Just that Shannon Doherty is known for being hard to work with (90210).
Holly Marie Combs was friends with Alyssa Milano the whole time and said only nice things about her for years even after charmed, and now she suddenly says only bad things about Milano, don't you think that's weird and shows Combs real Character?
And McGowan, well she has a problem with Milano for being married to a Talent Agent and all Talent Agents are Rapist and Pedophiles in McGowan eyes.
Which shows how out of touch everyone really is
I do not say Milano is innocent, I just say EVERYONE LIES for their own motives
Doherty is still Butt hurt because she was not the Big Star on the show, after she again started Dramas on one of her shows
Combs is Jealous
McGowan is just a Sociopathic Narcissist who not once told a Truth in her whole life
and well Milano lies she never did anything
I’ve seen both videos, Shannen is telling the truth, she had everything she wanted to say written down and was frank about the whole thing.
Alyssa was struggling to even say what she wanted to say because she knew it would be lies, typical narcissist tactics
Damed if you do, damed if you don't. Imo, people are going to hear what they want to hear. I'm a Charmed fan. I loved every character and the actresses/actors that brought them to life.
Ppl act like they know everything
Exactly, none of them are innocent, so just move on...seriously this ridiculous feud has really become so off-putting that I'm starting to not enjoy watching the show as much as i did before. If women who played sisters cant even put their differences aside, like whats the point of watching that show? What's done is done, move tf on.
Same. They didn’t get along behind the scenes and that’s fine.
Is this the woman who did a "go fund me" for her sons travel baseball team then took him to the recent Superbowl?
@@cami-loo108 yep even though she’s a millionaire
Alyssa still not taking accountability for her actions.
She literally said she takes responsibility for her actions.
@@renealexander2703 'I'm sorry but…' is not taking accountability
@@lilchicklets she's taking responsibility lmao
@@blade5883 how has she taken responsibility?
@@blade5883 when you say I’m sorry and then you add but or however to the end of it you’re not taking accountability you’re about to explain why it’s not on you
Aka: I was tired of playing the little sister who was a screw up with the passive power.
Damn
Exactly. And I love that they went as far in the other direction with Paige as they could. Yes she was an irresponsible teen for a bit but after her parents died when she was a teen she really got herself together quick.
Alyssa, did you date Brian Krause while he was still married? If so, that is proof that perhaps you were a huge problem to a 4th lady aswell. His wife!
This girl is mean as fuck
That’s really it, though. Alyssa was the villain.
It is sad that we can’t see all of them together for a fan panel for the fans. Also add Julian McMahon!! Loved Cole ❤️
I'm a much more forgiving, caring and kind person at 49 than I was at 25. I think that's true of many people, including Alyssa.
It sounds like she just wants to just shove everything under the rug so she doesn’t look like the bad guy, sorry Alyssa but it sounds like you’re trying to silence your former co-stars
She's not trying to silence anyone. She's trust saying her truth.
Odd how the entire cast can be together and yet Alyssa is always alone. She ruined charmed and is a massive liar !
Shannen 3 seasons.
Holly & Alyssa 8 seasons (they was producers).
Rose 4 seasons.
Rose was actually on for 5 seasons@@isaac_cb
Milano being as hypocrite and fake as usually. It's like "I ruined the show by making it all about my lousy character even turning it into a celebrity just to fill my endless need of fame and attention in expense of getting the main star fired, trying to separate her from her friend, and turning the experience of the one that came after the one I got fired into a nightmare as well, BUT hey I'm healed and others hurt because are hurt".
Girl you literally ruined a good show with your ego and turned the experience of the whole cast into hell, thats why no one from them can't stand you, none of them follows you in social media and they don't even want to be in the same room where you are.
But this is the reality about narcissists, they will never realize how sick they are and take responsibility for what they did.
You seem personally attacked
@@taylorbrown8329 lol no but Charmed is my fav show and it was pretty obvious what happened when I first time watched it. It is kinda a relief that truth finally came out after all these years but at the same time it brings back some feelings of impotence some how us felt back then. Still happy she got finally busted and unmasked though
Actually, Alyssa did take responsibility for her actions.
@@koken2372 , well, don't take it personal. And why be so hard on Alyssa? She didn't do anything to me or you.
Da best comment!
Summary:
I want to speak with caution. Im sorry that people can not move past this, and tension is still there. Sorry to the fans for the fallout.
It was very hard for me to deal with, and I have worked so hard in life since. I have worked to heal and just know hurt pepple hurt people.
All of this happened like 25 years ago and i dont know how people can still hold on to the situation-- idk how else to fix it. And im sorry for whatever part I have had in this, and i take responsibility for it.
Very very interesting.
it's almost as if Alyssa doesn't want to take responsibility for what she caused for the series and the fans! i mean, come on, the magnitude of wrong that she did, (causing Shannen to lose her job, ) is just crazy, she thinks that Shannen can just forget all about that and move forward?!? THAT'S MAJOR DAMAGE AND TRAUMA FOR ANYONE AND EVER MORE HARD FOR A CELEBRITY/ACTRESS !! Especially because of the drama Shannen had to endure on the set of Beverly Hills, 90210, which btw Shannen does speak to all the main cast of BH90210! If Alyssa wasn't the cause of what happened then why are Holly and Rose right by Shannen's side through all of this, I mean, they were there and they know what happened!
Alyssa literally has said that she takes responsibility. And Rose was not there when Shannen was on the show.
Maybe in your eyes she's taken responsibility but not in everyone else's ! By the way, you're right, "Rose was not there when Shannen was on the show," but Rose was there with Alyssa on the show, and I'm sure that's why Rose chooses to FULLY support Shannen !
What did she do? Everyone mad at Alyssa idk what happened I watched Shannon speak.
I cannot be sure about her bullying Rose on the set but i believe she really got Shannen fired because it was Holly who revealed it. So Shannen & Holly against her statements. I'd believe the two. But what i can't believe is why it seems very hard for Alyssa to say sorry to Shannen? We can't expect Shannen to forgive when sorry was not even said.
But Holly has no proof of that. Holly said she was told that. That is not proof.
@@renealexander2703 the one who told Holly that they're firing Shannen happens to be one of the producers. And fact remains, Shannen did get axed.
@@mikelyee1934 , I know Shannen got axed. But how do we know for sure that the producer was telling the truth? What if the producer was trying to throw Alyssa under the bus?
@@renealexander2703 why would the producer lie to Holly? What's the point? He's the producer. He can terminate anyone he wishes without the need to justify. But in their case he did state the reason. Besides, the rift on the set was real. Even Alyssa did not deny that
@@mikelyee1934 , I know there was a rift. But what if the men in charge wanted Shannen gone, but wanted Alyssa to take the fall for it or be the bad guy?
It’s amazing how I can love Phoebe and hate that narcissist portraying her lol
one thing i don’t get - why did holly agree to work with alyssa for greys anatomy episode if there was so much tension? for the record i love all 4 women and i love charmed ..
Maybe she needed a money. 😂
Holly is a flip flopper.
Landing a role in Grey's Anatomy? Yes please... Oh I have to work with so-and-so...hmm... OK. Job. I'll deal with it.
A lot of times you don’t know who you’re working with until you’re on the set. And trying to pull out of contract on the day is career suicide.
It’s wild that y’all think actors pick who they work with. When you auditioned for a school play, did you pick actors , let alone did you know who you were working with?! It’s like any job, you don’t know who your coworkers are until you arrive. You people need to start being a little bit more REALISTIC in your thinking 😅
Whether you agree or not with what Shannon, Hollie and Rose say they have every right to talk openly about it. Whilst it's not fully clear what went on behind the scenes what is clear is that Alyssa was most likely at the centre of it. When someone tries to 'downplay' something rather than tell the truth it does make them look guilty
No es toxicidad son las vivencias de cada una,ni Holly dijo que fuiste tú que fue el productor que se lo dijo a ella y rose dijo que el set de charmed lo hacías difícil y lo de no dejar ver a Holly en el hospital cuando shannen iva y tú madre eso no está bien tú hacías de todo una competencia no te hagas la dulce paloma o que no ha pasado nada tampoco es así no te preocupes que los fans de charmed no ve empañado nada de la serie
Come on get over it it was 20 years ago! (Rachel sister on Friends). It’s easy for her to say let’s move on but she didn’t get fired from a show while her father was sick and had medical bills to cover. Shannen didn’t try to get her fired but she did. She must admit she was a b*tch and apologize so everyone can move on.
Ya se disculpo varias veces.
She didn’t try to get her fired though.
@@Markmatthewlukenjohn so Shannen didn’t get fired cause Alyssa threatened a law suit? And why Alyssa didn’t go through with the lawsuit? Cause she got what she wanted : Shannen fired.
@@adnnebs shannen got herself fired. If Alyssa threatened with a lawsuit then she felt threatened or treated unfairly in some way so maybe shannen wasn’t as innocent as people think. And rose for that matter. I don’t understand why Alyssa always has to be the evil one or the villain in every situation.
@@Markmatthewlukenjohn no one is 100% guilty or 100% innocent but why even Rose said Alyssa made the set toxic AF. Rose is not Shannen’s friend they don’t really know each other. Alyssa herself said they (producers) put them against each other and she acted upon it. Alyssa wanted to be n1 on the call sheet.
She is the crystal clear definition of a narcissist.
You have no idea what a narcissist is
@@ndo533 Seems like you are another one 😆
@@mariadoloresgasparino6085 seems like you need to go back and learn how to use words
@@ndo533😂
Saying she wishes they could all move on is not wrong. She has publicly apologized! Shannon is bitter bitter bitter. Listen to her podcast. Moving on is what adults do.
It cost her 10s of millions of dollars and damaged her career and took away the community she was in. You'd just swallow that up and forget it? Her apology was not addressed to shannen or rose or Holly. It was a deflection to them trying to make her look decent. She owes Grand gestures for what she's done.
All i know is that they need to hurry up & make a reboot!! Before Shannen condition worsens & we don't have another chance with her!!
This was a very thought out response. No emotion, just thought out. She still hasn't admitted what she did, she still hasn't apologised, she's just focused on herself and what it was like for her while almost sniping at all the other women subtly in her response. This whole thing just felt gross.
Alyssa a you are my favorite actress
my grandma was probably one of the biggest fans of charmed, one of my bonding memories with her is when shed watch charmed and id sit with her and wed drink coffee and watch it, charmed is comforting to me bc of how much she loved it, we even left it on at her memorial dinner, i put it on to comfort me til this day, if my grandma knew about all this drama shed be devastated so i know what alyssa is saying
Interesting how she’s the one sitting alone and the others get on well and share the stage. If Shannon was the problem then how come rose who joined the show later says Alyssa is the issue too
Ok so Charmed is the Anti Scientology movement/
and the other actresses are the CoS ex members &victims/
and the fans are the anti movement community who are let down by the rivalries, egos and infighting that occur between imperfect people who are dealing with their own traumas and not necessarily hearing the others' side/
And Alyssa is the MR (or whoever) who is speaking PR word salad and not really apologizing for their part bc he has or had his own traumas he was/is going through/
But maybe deep down (s)he'd like it to be restored to former glory/
And hopefully if everyone owns their part then the whole community can rebuild trust and be "charmed" again??
Liz would like for everyone to put on big people underpants and get this right bc CoS is the only enemy we should have!!
Maybe? Lol
Bullies always seem to tell people they’ve traumatised to move on.
Alyssa this is definitely called gaslighting. All three of them are just lying on you? All three of them? And you're just completely and totally innocent of everything that all three have said, be it alone, or with each other, that you were allegedly definitely the damn problem? I don't believe you!
You’re the problem.
Why are you hostile towards Alyssa? Did she hurt you personally?
@@renealexander2703 Why do you defend her tooth and nail like shes an angel? Do you know her personally?
@@pretendamnesia , I don't know her personally and I don't know Shannen personally. That's my point. I'm not defending Alyssa. I'm defending myself and you. I'm defending the situation. I'm being fair. What if someone accused you of something and everybody started hating on you? Put yourself in Alyssa's shoes. What if that was you? Would you want people hating you for something that went on between you and a co-worker? You don't know Alyssa nor Shannen. So why are you behaving like Alyssa hurt you personally? It's none of our business. She did not hurt me or you.
@@renealexander2703 You're acting seriously unhinged responding to every comment. You don't know these people either. Seek mental help.
What I find most interesting about the first three seasons of Charmed is that the actresses' personal work ethics matched each of their characters' personalities (Shannen/Prue taking the job very seriously) Alyssa/Phoebe (just wanting to make everything fun) and Holly/Piper just wanting a normal life. I never quite got a feel for Rose/Paige. Paige was kind of "whatever" learning her way through things but Rose was very, very intense about a lot of things and seems like she is accustomed to living on the edge for the sake of living on the edge, without concern for propriety. I realize that has nothing to do with this interview, but Alyssa spent so much time not really saying anything by slowly and verbosely not answering the question that I got bored. I love her acting though and I'm glad she spends her time being passionate about what she believes. I respect people that do that even if I don't agree with them on some things.
They should have kept the original pilot cast… and not decided to add in Milano
The original "phoebe" had 2 leave cause of her religious beliefs...Im on Holly, Shannen and Rose's side on this one, im most excited that im going 2 actually Meet just HOLLY in 2 weeks...Shes the only one thats coming, but i just cant wait 2 actually see and talk 2 her lol...
What did she do?
She apologized what more can she do? Shannon and Holly bot h had a part in this too.If Alyssa was documenting things that happened and saying it was a hostile workplace ,they weren’t innocent.Neither one has apologized for their actions.
Good point.
I didn’t hear any apology…..just the same gaslighting run around that my abusive ex did.
Alyssa was smart and she knew how to get her way on set, that doesn’t make her right though, and I think that’s the problem she just doesn’t seem to get. HUMILITY people it’s not hard, even Holly admits they ALL could have acted better
See, she just wants to sweep it under the rug. The only thing the fans want is a real apology. “I was a bicce, I made the work environment toxic..I had a huge ego” etc This here isn’t an apology. She just keeps sweeping it under the rug
This is really annoying. Alyssa should just state what she did back when the producers acquire the mediator on the set of Charmed. She didn't answer the question. Again, I wonder if Alyssa was pushed to the side by Shannen and Holly. There are 2 sides to a story.
Mr Martinez. It was all on Alyssa. Rose has confirmed the hell that Alyssa made the show. None of the 3 ladies wants to work with Alyssa.
At this point she should just say that she gave ultimatum to producers and made Shannon to be fired. She didn't step in to say anything when the firing process was happening, because she's jealous, because Shannon was the main character of the show. Even if she admits of all her wrongdoings herself people would be more forgiving, because if you admit, you actually have grown as a person, but Alyssa hasn't and that's why she still sits there and says nothing.
When the likeable unproblematic girl starts with "I wanna be very thoughtful with my words" you know shes going to try to make everyone else look stupid
I wonder if they would all put their differences aside like they did back in the day and do another season of charmed including pure
After fan *question. "Ask" is a verb, not a noun.
We don’t know the whole story of what happened and we may never know.
What is going on with Alyssa Milano's one eye?? I think she has turned into such an unkind person.
What I think is sad is that Alyssa still won't say sorry or be kind it says a lot about you ... End of the day you were a bully just own it . If you can't say sorry own that you were toxic ... Instead of stating bluberish
Just apologize and be sincere in public to them and then they can move on
I like all of them ❤️I think she answered with a classy and professional response. It’s hard when others don’t get along with you for whatever reason. I understand not everyone is gonna like you but being in the spotlight is rough. The show will always be an absolute fave, so good And Well done, all wonderful actors and people involved. I can watch again and again. I have the special “Charmed” book of Shadows dvd all seasons on dvd. 😊yes I still have DVD player. But I truly love all of them. But they r truly only human. ❤️much love to all involved and gratitude for the legacy of “Charmed”
Not narcissicst,she heal but they didnt not in the same pace she moves on doesnt mean she didnt but she learn she has to forgive herself doesnt mean they do,each parties doesnt interact on less they know she didnt change, so what rest dont affect are life
I have the "gift" lol of differnciating the distinction between real people and "charators" on a show. Im gonna do my best to not let this "tarnish" me. 🙄🤦♀️🤷♀️❤
This is textbook example of the emotionally immature person’s idea of what an actual emotionally mature person would say. She gave herself away completely with this diatribe. She’s the drama. This was condescending and dismissive and so high and mighty. She doesn’t even know what she doesn’t know. Bummer.
She’s just still mad because of what Cole did to her.
wow! never seen anyone dance around a question so much in order to not give an actual answer... n people were going 'aww..' n clapping.. I guess it worked..
when an angel has tail with her mom hahaha!
she uses the shannen issues with the same producer and rose issues to get out of her crime lol!
I think in one interview she says she owns her part in the shannen fued but thats it she dont touch on rose and her beef rose alledges that she was not welcoming and was very rude kept the set toxic as fuck and she hated when the show would get renewed which sucks cus i loved all seasons and i felt bad she suffered
"Forthcoming" sure "apologized" sure 🤷♀️ I'm just saying she could have fixed things over a quarter of a century ago 🤷♀️
She tried that, and they still wanna go to war.
@@lorivera94 But how much did she try back then . . I mean Holly has a point. Alyssa could have fixed things long ago 🤷♀️
Exactly. I think it’s unfixable in a lot of ways though. If someone who pretended to admire you and be a friend and they were even in each other’s wedding parties, yet secretly Milano is dotting her I’d and crossing t’s to get Shannen fired. I mean if I were Shannen I would possibly in some way allow myself to forgive them but in reality if someone got me fired by threatening to sue, and remove me from the best job I ever had, I would never want to have anything to do with that person. Shannen has an incredible work ethic and is a good person. Alyssa didn’t bring that same dedication and was insecure and jealous/threatened by Shannen so she goes and gets her fired. She is very two faced. The fact that she still tries to hide behind what happened and her mother denies what they did, is just pathetic but not surprising. Frankly if I were Shannen, I don’t know think I could muster the will to attend any charmed events. The poor girl was the lead who launched the show and she got the boot. It’s rotten stuff.
I always liked Alyssa but her view are kind of skewed. She really needs to wake up.
Given everything that crew members and other actors have said, there wasn’t just ONE bad guy. I’m not gonna point the only finger at her because I don’t believe everything was entirely her fault. I also wasnt a part of it so I don’t really care so I wish all 3 of them the best of luck because it’s none of my business and all of them have things I like! ❤
The fact that she took so many round abouts to get to her point says it all honestly.
It felt like she was very nervous and that she really didn't want to cause anyone further pain. Sure she didn't want to put a target on her own back but she did say that she accepted her part in the situation so maybe holding on to this is a bit much?
They're basically calling Alyssa a bully
F Alyssa. She was in the wrong and she knows it. She’s not even authentic in her response. She takes no responsibility. Like grow tf up.
Listen. Shannen Doherty had a reputation of being cruel on set before Charmed. Was Alyssa there on the other shows? No. So what is her excuse for that??? A divorce? Please.
Also I'm not saying Alyssa wasn't problematic then BUT it was over 23 years ago! Some people do not even live that long. Shannen could have chosen soooooo many times to say her truth. Why now? She has cancer yes and I feel sorry that she does, truly, but she can tell her truth without blaming anyone. "LETS BE CLEAR" is about her being honest with a lot of stuff, so why can't she be honest about her behaviour too? A lot of Charmed guest stars have said Alyssa was the nicest and one even said "the other two not so much" so what does that say?
All of you jumping on Alyssa saying she's a narcissist - well you know what else narcissists do? Play the victim and cry on stage so people feel sorry for them. Why didn't Alyssa cry on stage? Cause it won't change anything. Meaning. Whether she cries or not people might still believe Shannen over her. Get over it. Alyssa SPOKE to the audience in response to Shannen and Holly, while Shannen READ off a paper. No one is freaking perfect. They were like that then but now everyone is over 50, have kids, other movies and tv shows they do so lets move on.
Shannen did not need to bring this whooole thing up 23yrs later. Holly is easily influenced it feels like by others feelings. She followed Alyssa until a few months ago.
Rose had nothing to say about what happened during the time on Charmed she wasn't a part of.
That's my take.
I love them all and it hurts to see all of this come back with the blame game still happening. Protecting the fans is a lame excuse tbh. We are less protected now than if whatever truth came out 23 yrs ago.
You do realize who Alyssa Milano is married to yes? She's married to a VERY POWERFUL man in Hollwyood. It's not hard to do the math on why no one has said anything about her until now. It's also not hard to figure out why producers are backing her because it hurts their narrative if they don't. Shannen took the brunt of the bullets for many years in the court of public opinion but here you are telling her to get over it. Do you not know trauma? Do you not understand how it works? Having to keep the truth in to protect someone else?
Milano actually had not much limelight since Who's The Boss. She was actually pretty irrelevant until Charmed but she was still third on the bill to Shannen and Holly.
The fact that you're basing how sincere someone is based on a prepared statement versus fumbling over their words and looping is pretty ridiculous. Both Milano and Doherty have said they can't remember exact incidents. They never said things never happened. They said that they don't remember. There's a difference.
You need to listen to the whole episode of part 2 'Let's Be Clear' to get the full context of the conversation as Doherty and Combs were clipped out of context. They actually talk more about the male producers segregating the three actresses and pitting them against each other so there was not a Friends situation but somehow everyone is making this about Milano. Funny how that works, but NO she's not a narcissist. It's actually Holly who dishes most of the talk about Milano in the episode and there's not really much said about that. Holly says that she was forced to go back to a show she didn't want to do because they threatened to dock her pay and sue her if she left. She felt like she was married to the mob.
And I don't know if you know this but Doherty's replacement on 90210, Tiffany Amber Theissan has publicly said that the girls were difficult and catty to her. So yes, Shannen MAY have been a problem, but she wasn't the only problem. She was just the one who garnered a reputation.
Also answer me this; If Shannen was such a problem on set, why would Aaron Spelling then hire her to be the anchor of Charmed?
What is your problem? And who are you to police someone who had a traumatic experience and had to keep quiet to protect someone else? The virtue signaling and gaslighting in your post is pretty egregious. Quit stanning.
@lilchicklets I'm not stanning anyone. Shannen had 23 years to tell her side whereas Alyssa has been married to a powerful man for 15 years. Your point there is invalid. Like I said at the beginning, I'm NOT saying Alyssa wasn't problematic then, however, Shannen did seem quite narcissistic in the podcast and some comments after, which is not the opinion of myself only. The FACT that Shannen is still holding on to much anger and resentment after so long is not okay and there are ways to tell your side of the story without blame 2 decades later. I don't really care what you think of my opinion on the drama. Peace to you.
@Princess What exactly did she say that was narcissistic and give the timestamp? And you DO realize that it was Holly who talked mostly about Milano during the podcast episode right? They actually where citing the producers mostly who where trying to pit them against each other to avoid a Friends situation.
@lilchicklets I know what you're saying. I've said things to Holly as well on her Instagram post. The producers sucked. Listen I'm not gonna go through 90min of podcast to pinpoint her words. It's the way she begins her sentences mostly. She speaks from resentment and not from a place of healing. It's hard for me to explain what I mean. I'm about to go sleep anyway. It's past midnight. You can do research yourself if you want. You know what I think? Protecting fans from the truth is not necessary. That was part of their reason for being quiet all this time. We can take it. I wish for Shannen's and everyone else's peace of mind and healing.~
@@SaiyanPrincess I actually did listen to the entire podcast so I know what was said.
What I will say about this and people can say whatever they want, but as long as it’s been, her telling them to move on is not so much because of her not feeling bad, but it’s because how is she supposed to be looked at in any other way, when it keeps being brought up, you can’t look at her differently. If every time there’s a panel people are asking Well Shannon why did you leave the show And it’s like OK. We all clearly can look it up the answers right there you don’t have to ask her the question every time you see her and truth be told something. A lot of people don’t talk about is this is not Shannon’s first time having issues with someone she had issues on another show she was on as well, so I don’t fully blame Alyssa because I know Shannon’s background also…. Now, as far as Rose, I always felt her issue with Alyssa was displaced because when she talks about it at least the last time I heard her talk about it. She was talking about the fact that Alyssa’s husband was friends with someone that she had a bad experience with and I’m not sure why she blames Alyssa for what her husband‘s friend did but hey, Personally, I love all the girls. I prefer Holly Rose and Alyssa. It just seemed more fun and family like them and personally, I don’t care as much about their personal lives because that takes away from the excitement of the show for me.
Couldn’t she just say: “Yes. I was an asshole. I’m sorry.”???
And let that be that? It would be better than this weird diatribe.
Alyssa dear. You have still NOT answered the question. I know your dealing with a lot EVERYONE is. I AM STILL and will ALWAYS be a charmed excited audience member because dispite whatever REALLY happened on the show it was a REALLY fucking amazing bad ass show of its time!!! You were all young actors who were child actors who had been in a very adult MANS world at a very young age. It's to be EXPECTED that something will go down eventually. Its a very corporate hollywood show with many MALE old guys writting producing and signing off on many important things. As a delighted audience member and a fellow actor this is not the first time and not the last that there will be drama on a TV show/Movie set. I can bring to this conversation is why this took so long to speak about and why can't you all just get along and love one another. The on screen chemistry and the very close bond potrayed by the sisters made the audience think that you all were really best friends. You all are very talented actors!! As heart breaking as this is for some fans it's really up to each one of you to call each other up and find the strength to say something that each one desrves to hear. Maybe it wont happen in this life time but hopefully soon. ❤ love and peace
She's so toxic, and I haven't believed anything that she's had to say for a long time.
Well said.
Her CAA agent husband worked for ten years with Weinstein and was rooting for him when the scandal exploded. She's the definition of toxic.
I'm wondering how much of this is organic and how much of this was influenced by social media and other media outlets to cause a spectacle, because Hollywood has been known to encourage drama with its actors as well as it's shows for viewership. I do think they could all return and do a reunion because they are professionals. I have had jobs where I didn't like some of the people I worked with, but my job isn't to be best friends with everyone. It's to do my job and go home. I think a mediator should have all of them in the same room together to hash out EVERYTHING and come to an understanding, because like I've told my mother when it comes to her divorce from my dad in 1978, "There is your memories and there are his memories, then there is the truth." You see what you want to see and that may not be what actually happened. It's called misunderstanding or misreading the situation.
When you go back and watch Charmed you can clearly see Alyssa got the lead after Shannen left so she wasn't lying.
I feel like shes gotten the bad end of thr stick just like Shannen did with 90210. They had more in common probably than not but could never align themselves. What if Jennie Garth was still talking about her beef with Shannen
Oh ..buuuhuuuuuu...They all cannot lie Babes. There's other people talking about her ..the same stuff. Its all on her.
Sorry seems to be the hardest word
I don’t think we will ever know what truly happened but with that said Holly and Shannon only talked about the end result not what lead to it. The fact Holly and Shannon didn’t want to go to a mediator and the fact the studio brought someone in tells me this wasn’t as one sided as Shannon and Holly are implying. I also think Shannan history worked against her and it got to the point Alyssa and Shannon couldn’t work together and a change needed to be made. The fact Shannon said she didn’t know their was a problem was a lie because if the studio knew and Shannon refused to fix it then that should speak volumes the other thing is Alyssa wasn’t Shannon first person she had issues with she also didn’t get along with Ted king who ultimately asked to be released by the show. I think this was a unfortunate situation that clearly Shannon/Holly didn’t want to fix and Alyssa decided she couldn’t work with her and gave the studio an ultimatum instead of being a professional and doing her job.
Rose aint exactly a walk in the park herself tho. Not sticking up for Alyssa here per sé, but Rose runs her mouth too. She also seems like an exhausting person to be around at length.
She's the reason this sh!t is continuing b/c she HATES Alyssa Milano, has gone off the rails about her on multi occasions...I really do feel the OG three could've worked this out, but Rose doesn't want that b/c it doesn't fit her agenda, so she keeps stoking the fires to keep it going b/c it's one of the only ways she remains relevant.
She has been hugely problematic & manipulative w/other people & their lives (look up the whole messy sitch w/Asia Argento) she uses them, turns on them on a dime when it suits her, & only does ish for attention & clout, & attacks anyone who speaks out against her.
Not saying some of what she has spoken on in regards to this, or other issues isn't truth, just saying her motives are all self serving.
Also, FWIW, multiple people, from *multiple* other shows-cast, crew, etc...had been reporting awful behaviour from Shannon for years prior to Charmed & after. While I do believe blackballing may have occurred there, I don't think Alyssa was the reason for it.
@@thefourthee Yep. I remember when she hijacked the #METOO movement.
I’m torn around this because you obviously can’t make these things up there has been enough people now come forward and opened up about the drama on set including her on screen husband Julian McMahon and several writers and producers. And for her to say get over it is just ridiculous you never reached out to heal anything in all these years. Having said that I also believe that if this happened back then why did no one push it further and fight back? If she was as bad as people make out why wasn’t she stopped or taken down so to speak? And I’m not saying anyone is innocent but it’s odd that it was just accepted behaviour?? And Shannen does not fear anyone that’s clear from her tv history so why was she not going against Alyssa at that time if she was in her rights to do so. The person I feel the most sorry for is Holly as it clearly shows she was in the middle of it all and got dragged in to mess and she actually was treated very unfairly by the director/producer
Holly, willingly, became good friends with Alyssa.
@@renealexander2703 yeah I agree but the way she was treated on the show by everyone was I think the big issue
A google search shows that Julian and Alyssa are friends and have appeared together as recently as September 2023.
@@DanielGarcia-zd4yqYes they even have a picture together on Instagram.
Is she drunk? She is slurring her words.
Personally I don't feel she addressed the elephant in the room at all. Taking accountability for her actions may set her free and others. There is a lot of gas lightening. I mean their actors and all but energy doesn't lie, maybe she's struggling with truly forgiving herself and her actions in the past as to why she cant take responsibility and holds a lot of shame. Their acting in charmed was on another level but after all their still human. I don't judge any of them but my discernment is a gift and cant be fooled by the acting skills. Let's hope they can forgive themselves and others. Being angry and resentful towards someone, is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die." Stop leaving out the part of the story where you fucked up. Own it all! Thats what healing is.
I love the show and I didn’t use to believe all the stuff about Alyssa, but seeing this makes me think she really is a narcissist. And also mimics remind me soooo much of Amber Heard’s. Very hard to believe anything she says.
Taking sides is never easy, but I find myself aligning with Team Milano on this issue. She took the appropriate steps by addressing concerns about a co-worker and engaging in mediation, a step that Combs and Doherty may have perceived as beneath them. The termination of Doherty strongly indicates the gravity of the situation. Witnessing Milano being bullied by three former co-stars over something that occurred more than 20 years ago is truly disheartening.
By the way, I've created a video addressing this matter where I've included all the juicy details. The revelations are quite mind-boggling, so feel free to check it out and share your thoughts!
I hate taking sides as well, I try to see both situations aligned myself in their shoes and I also sided with Milano. As much as the other fans are going to completely disagree let's be real as women we are completely competitive and petty. It's just human nature, is how we are as humans and when you're on a show or any other job there is always going be competition whether we liked it or not. I do think Alyssa took the important steps to take accountability and if am not mistaken She did personally apologized to Shannon on the phone right? Why does it have to be dragged on like she says? I mean it does suck Shannon lost her job due to conflicts but sometimes you have to let that shit go. It has been more than 25 years and people are still asking her about this? It seems like the roles are reversed now , The 3 ladies are specifically targetting Milano who is literally kept defending herself. We may not like her but least she has the balls to be like yes I fucked up. How many times do I have to say that js js js
@@RedHeadThriller10 I could not agree more. and the fact that the three bullies keep changing the narratives and contradicting themselves says everything about their intentions...
REALITY CHECK:
Alyssa’s spoken word was a well made training piece and far far far away from honesty, i still like phoebe, but don’t like Alyssa. You should pay your debts so people can move on, speak the truth, apologize for your actions, the actions that caused Shannen lose her career and be smashed after a three hit years on TV. And remember an apology is what will make you loved.
That’s the opinion of a fan from Saudi Arabia
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