$15,000 a year is all they typically have to work with?! Wow, that wouldn't even cover fuel & insurance for a year. These folks deserve so much more help than they are getting.
Brooks Fire Service Consulting worked with a Fire District that gets $900.00 annually! Totally reorganized them and a neighboring District! If your FD sounds like these, contact Brooks Fire Service Consulting on fb!
That E-One engine looks pretty nice. It's not from the 1980s. Judging by the trucks to that I saw in this video they look like they're better off than a lot of other volunteer departments.
@@owendahlke6666 normally I'm pretty good at knowing different brands of fire trucks, up close that one sort of resembled an E-one but after looking at it again I realized that it was a KME. Take care and stay safe.
These trucks may seem old but I know a department that has trucks that are from the 1980s and 1990s and so far only two of their trucks that they just got are from the early 2000s and fairly recently maybe a year or two ago they just got rid of a couple trucks from the 1960s and 70s.
The Gear and Equipment should be state of the Art. But old Trucks are normal! They don't run so much Miles, so you can use them for a Lot of Years. In my Department we used our 2 old Engines for 31 an 33 Years.
The way states spend money is an embarrassment. Most fire departments can't even afford an extractor or a cascade system. My department can't clean it's gear properly or refill our air bottles, but another rover on Mars is cool isn't it.
As long as they've been well maintained, is it really a problem to have fire engines from the '90s? This isn't a loaded question. I'm genuinely curious.
30 year old equipment fails like a lightning strike...Especially deep seated rust...The Eng and other mechanics are good but suspension, steering and the like cause deep safety issues no matter how good the mechanic....Liability insurance rates rise according to age of equipment...Its like fixing an old TV over and over....
NFPA aka National Fire Protection Association doesn’t allow a piece of apparatus to be more than 20 or 25 years old. i can’t remember which. after that time period they no longer are compliant to NFPA modern specifications. Legal in most cases but not replacing equipment regularly does make the job more difficult as it’s an ever changing field. a truck from the 90s in perfect condition even won’t always be adequate for the simple reason requiring different equipment, possibly more equipment and now it doesn’t all fit appropriately. lot of different reasons but nowadays fire apparatus is very expensive
@@mugwump242 the NFPA just sets guidelines that are usually adopted and enforced by the states. Enforcement typically follows an issue with some form of resource, (gear, apparatus, station, even training grounds.) A department can use an old truck all they want, but if it breaks down and doesn't make it to a call, a court can use NFPA guidelines to explain the accident and hold a department or individual accountable. For example, the PPE I wear is from 2004, I can use it, but if I get injured in it than a court will decide if it was my fault of the departments for issuing me the gear
Anyone else think it’s weird or crazy that America is doing this ? 1st responders, Firefighters & EMS & there’s absolutely no money. But seems America has money for “other things”
Unlike police vehicles; fire engines typically don't rack up that many miles per year, what CAN be a problem is having the engines/pumps running too many hours between maintenance. When I worked for a motorpool 30 years ago; we had a ca 1973 1 Ton 4WD International(?) pickup with less than 3K miles on the chassis, that's right, ca 1500 hundred miles per year. It sat a lot but, it was still maintained.
BACON nd EGGS well when you live in the middle of no where and the nearest city is many miles away it really doesn’t matter if your house is burning at least someone is responding. Just because the are on the heavy side doesn’t mean a thing our assistant chief fought fire in New Jersey and is about 285 pounds. Another neighbouring dept both chiefs are in the 300 and they are all paid. So I will stand for my Brothers and Sisters.
The bad part is that since these grants have been given out the manufacturers have increased the prices of rigs so high it is generally a wash.
$15,000 a year is all they typically have to work with?! Wow, that wouldn't even cover fuel & insurance for a year. These folks deserve so much more help than they are getting.
We got 900 a year!
Brooks Fire Service Consulting worked with a Fire District that gets $900.00 annually! Totally reorganized them and a neighboring District! If your FD sounds like these, contact Brooks Fire Service Consulting on fb!
We got $900.00 a year, and as Chief with 4 firefighters, it became organizedfundraisers and Brooks Fire Service Consulting came to the rescue!
@@robertbrooks7001 Please shut up.
15,000 is the same for our department. 5 trucks, 16 guys. We make do with pancake feeds and renting grills out to people.
That E-One engine looks pretty nice. It's not from the 1980s. Judging by the trucks to that I saw in this video they look like they're better off than a lot of other volunteer departments.
That is a KME.
@@owendahlke6666 ooh, yes you're right. Can't believe I missed that.
@@alexandermakrianis it's okay, I've made that mistake myself to.
@@owendahlke6666 normally I'm pretty good at knowing different brands of fire trucks, up close that one sort of resembled an E-one but after looking at it again I realized that it was a KME. Take care and stay safe.
@@alexandermakrianis you to man.
These trucks may seem old but I know a department that has trucks that are from the 1980s and 1990s and so far only two of their trucks that they just got are from the early 2000s and fairly recently maybe a year or two ago they just got rid of a couple trucks from the 1960s and 70s.
The Gear and Equipment should be state of the Art. But old Trucks are normal! They don't run so much Miles, so you can use them for a Lot of Years. In my Department we used our 2 old Engines for 31 an 33 Years.
Cool All New Turn0ut Gear 👍
The trucks are perfect, it’s just the equipment on the rigs that need to be upgraded
The way states spend money is an embarrassment. Most fire departments can't even afford an extractor or a cascade system. My department can't clean it's gear properly or refill our air bottles, but another rover on Mars is cool isn't it.
Here in East TN, the ave budget from our Counties is 5,000 to 13,000
God bless you guys
can you see the siren?
As long as they've been well maintained, is it really a problem to have fire engines from the '90s? This isn't a loaded question. I'm genuinely curious.
It’s not, if it’s a low call department it’s far from the end of the world.
30 year old equipment fails like a lightning strike...Especially deep seated rust...The Eng and other mechanics are good but suspension, steering and the like cause deep safety issues no matter how good the mechanic....Liability insurance rates rise according to age of equipment...Its like fixing an old TV over and over....
NFPA aka National Fire Protection Association doesn’t allow a piece of apparatus to be more than 20 or 25 years old. i can’t remember which. after that time period they no longer are compliant to NFPA modern specifications. Legal in most cases but not replacing equipment regularly does make the job more difficult as it’s an ever changing field. a truck from the 90s in perfect condition even won’t always be adequate for the simple reason requiring different equipment, possibly more equipment and now it doesn’t all fit appropriately. lot of different reasons but nowadays fire apparatus is very expensive
@@znovosad555 Thanks. Yeah, it's gotta be expensive. Does the NFPA certify local fire departments? Is it a certification issue?
@@mugwump242 the NFPA just sets guidelines that are usually adopted and enforced by the states. Enforcement typically follows an issue with some form of resource, (gear, apparatus, station, even training grounds.) A department can use an old truck all they want, but if it breaks down and doesn't make it to a call, a court can use NFPA guidelines to explain the accident and hold a department or individual accountable. For example, the PPE I wear is from 2004, I can use it, but if I get injured in it than a court will decide if it was my fault of the departments for issuing me the gear
good job chief
Does that department have new trucks do they have the same old trucks
One of our brush trucks is an old square body. Man talk about old school lol.
Great Job!!
their trucks are fine
@Bijay Gurung yea
Anyone else think it’s weird or crazy that America is doing this ? 1st responders, Firefighters & EMS & there’s absolutely no money.
But seems America has money for “other things”
They have a pumper from 1980s and a truck from the 1990s all it matters it still works
schemer1991 that's nothing, my department isn't too poor and 90% of our trucks are from the 80s or 90s
Wish OUR equipment & Bunker gear was that new!!!
@@randyo.bowling1907 it was at one time
Unlike police vehicles; fire engines typically don't rack up that many miles per year, what CAN be a problem is having the engines/pumps running too many hours between maintenance. When I worked for a motorpool 30 years ago; we had a ca 1973 1 Ton 4WD International(?) pickup with less than 3K miles on the chassis, that's right, ca 1500 hundred miles per year. It sat a lot but, it was still maintained.
We work off of 10 to 13,000 and needing grants
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There is a 2001 130
FS 2001 siren is standing there a tornado siren
0:29 Federal Signal 2001-130
Yes
0:31 2001 siren
Doesn’t it just make you feel safe when over half of your local jolly volly department is over 250 pounds? LMAO
are you a firefighter?
yeah because paid fat firemen don't exist LOL
BACON nd EGGS well when you live in the middle of no where and the nearest city is many miles away it really doesn’t matter if your house is burning at least someone is responding. Just because the are on the heavy side doesn’t mean a thing our assistant chief fought fire in New Jersey and is about 285 pounds. Another neighbouring dept both chiefs are in the 300 and they are all paid. So I will stand for my Brothers and Sisters.
Do you have any idea what it takes to be a firefighter or are you a keyboard firefighter?
Nice 2001
0:30 2001-130
0:30 fs 2001 130
such a stupid system... no 1 country in the world.....
I was thinking exactly this.
Why do Americans tolerate this. This should be funded, seems American govt has money for “other things” but not this ??