idk if this is a hot take or not these days, but the Neutral route endings are so underrated. They're so diverse, and even the happiest ones have a lot of moral ambiguity to them, so getting another ending in the form of this video really scratches that itch.
Precisely what I wanted to show with this! I don't think it's that much of a crazy opinion as it was before since it looks like the community came around to giving them a chance, but they are still pretty underground (pun not intended) even now I tried to balance the goofy outcome with sparing papyrus, with the bleak neutral end and the sans judgement towards the end, cause as you said, it's not always black and white with them!
It’s not. Even out of all the people always hollering about what fancontent “We need more of” in this fandom, almost nobody talks about how we’ve forgotten about the Neutral Endings
@@OffbrandDTravelerI suppose. When I said the community came around to it, I was mostly talking about the awareness gained from bigger creators, such as Dorked, shedding light on it with their videos. Even then though, the wider fanbase still knows nothing of it, which is why I said that they are mostly underground! So yeah, you right
Does "papyrus lives as a head" change any other neutral ending besides the papyrus king ending? What about horrortale with papyrus as a head without body?
What I like about this is the subtlety of the changes. The plot doesn't change massively from the regular papyrus ending. Papyrus remains his usual effervescent self... but just as things start to get on top of him in the regular Papyrus ending, you get subtle hints about how the disability is affecting him. He never pities himself over it or blames you over it, he just acknowledges that things are harder for both himself and everyone else as a result, before doubling down on his determination to make everything better again regardless. That humble lack of complaint just makes you feel even guiltier for hurting both him and the underground in such a profound way. I feel guiltier in front of a dented but unbowed Papyrus than I would in front of a completely broken one.
You described what I was aiming for to a tee, mr Napoleon! I wanted this to start off comedic with how everything in Undertale normally is and slowly as the video goes on the veil of your actions would slowly be pulled back. In some ways this is meant to be more tragic than his normal death as he's been left crippled and all his friends are gone, here. I did have some other ideas of how this would go, such as the possibility that Papyrus would get put into your key items and join you through the game, which would've been more lighthearted in nature, but didn't want to derail the plot as much and wanted to make it manageable to get out in a short amount of time, as I've actually got something *else* I'd been making on the sidelines!
This is heartbreaking. Papyrus is literally crippled from doing anything he loves anymore and Sans has to do all the work because the rest of the Underground is dead, leaving both of them and the remaining citizens to deal with the grief and loss. This ending is almost as bad as Leaderless.
not really, its basically just leaderless with a hurt papyrus + a less depressed sans. and overall the underground is in a lot better shape than leaderless due to sans and papyrus leading.@@No.1RatedSalesman
Man, this is heart wrenching. Going back to Papyrus's house and seeing him unable to even open the door, along with his somehow positive attitude despite his condition and the dreadful music still playing, you managed to create a truly tragic scene. With the context that you're able to reset and fix everything, it just amplifies it all tenfold too. Sure, you "spared" Papyrus, but continuing this route as opposed to resetting is just cruel. You can still call Papyrus and hear what he has to say, but if you really cared for him then wouldn't you just reset and not leave him completely crippled? In this route you really torture him, killing all of his loved ones that you can and leaving him without a body, deprived of the ability to do what he once loved. Normally there would be hope for Alphys to build him a new body, but in neutral endings where Undyne is killed... yeah, it's not gonna happen. The last phone call really makes it feel like an ending where you deliberately went out of your way to make the life of the one person who believed in you as miserable as you possibly could, and it feels even more sick and twisted than the genocide route in many ways.
I really like these Undertale and Deltarune "What if...?" videos. They are quite entertaining and have a quality standard. I hope you keep making videos like these.
I wonder what'd happen if you called Papyrus while Undyne's chasing you to Hotland. Normally you can't call him when the game considers him "dead" (and thus he missed his meeting), but this time he isn't _actually_ dead, just reverse-decapitated.
In the middle of the video, there was some text explaining that while the game considers Papyrus "dead" (as in: any events that normally involve him play out without him), you can still call him. Probably that situation would play out the same as before, with some subtly changed dialogue from Papyrus, and Undyne would still politely stop to let you finish your call.
It's not impossible that he'll just... regrow a new body at some point? Might take a while. In a world with magic, I'm not tossing anything off the table.
Well its supposed that their body is made of magic, so meanwhile his soul is okay and have the sufficient magic technically he could (English isnt my first language be chill with me xd)
@@Black-s1i you wrote almost everything perfectly! The one thing that's incorrect is that it should've been "his soul is ok and *has* enough magic" bc soul is an "it" and when something is a "he, she, it" you use "has" instead of "have"! But I've read much worse from people who have English as their first language, so you did great!
Based on the fact that Undyne has seemingly permanently lost her eyeball from some past injury (since the Undying shows that it actually IS gone and she's not just wearing the eyepatch for fun), presumably monsters can't just regrow their bodyparts, and even if they could I doubt they could regenerate their ENTIRE body.
@@mertensiam3384 That presupposes though that bullet magic is capable of producing bones not only complex enough to be shaped into body-parts (the only bones the skeleton brothers ever seem to create are femurs, not the pelvis, spine, ribcages, etc. that comprise their actual bodies), but also to adequately serve as a body (i.e. that they are fully tangible enough to interact with physical matter, can be smoothly articulated, can be easily maintained enough for the bullets to KEEP their shape and position, etc.) For all we know, this could just be beyond what Papyrus, or any monster, can practically achieve.
Now I'm just imagining an au where Frisk decided to spare Papyrus last minute before his head turned to dust and shoved a piece of food in his mouth, healing him but not bringing his body back and now frisk has a backpack with Papyrus in it carrying him around during their journey and hell! Maybe he even assists them in battle! Using his bone as weapons and maybe making little bone platforms for you to land on so you can avoid attacks easier!! Just imagine Undyne not seeing Papy in the backpack and getting really confused when "the human" summons bones in order to block all the spears 😂😂😂
This would be hilarious, but it could only work in a world like Underfell where everyone is evil. Otherwise, Pap won’t fight, and no one would fight him.
@@isaacskinner5565 No, but that's the cool part! He would be in the backpack so no one would see him and he wouldn't attack anyone! Rather he would simply make it easier for you to avoid attacks!
@@No.1RatedSalesman Hm, good point... Maybe Papyrus wouldn't think that the monsters just teleported away? Considering that Sans uses shortcuts so often Papyrus could miss seeing them turn to dust and just assume they left... Or if you want a more cruel path you could say that Papyrus is scared of the human killing them so he just helps them in order to stay alive, the even more upset part would be that at the end the human would probably just kill Papyrus anyway.
I like this route. Everyone says you torture Papyrus and how it's supposed to make you feel guilty, but no one really talks about why he doesn't blame you. He wanted to save you from your evil, and he did, even if it was just barely, and cost him body. The way he sees it, he saved you from yourself, so he's happy with his life now.
It actually isn’t. He isn’t a judge, that is simply the title the fandom gave him. His official position is a sentry in snowdin. What he *does* is judge your moral clarity by analyzing your LOVE and exp.
Is so sad to see Papyrus sad because he can’t do anything for himself anymore, I can imagine the pain that it feels to not being able to do anything that you like to do anymore.
so refreshing to see new undertale fan content that's only a week old! not only is the writing spot on with head-only papyrus but the way sans responded to it was also really interesting
I mean ye that could be something, I saw some other suggestions that it could be triggered through doing the smallest amount of damage to him on purpose, either could work to be fair
@@JQR. yeah I believe that this would be more likely to occur by doing a small amount of damage, since this would appear to be a core component of the game. Fun value events usually change a singular thing about the game, this would do more than that
@@JQR. Imagine Sans will start his normal genocide speech, and then says something like: "ah, hell not" and just teleports away without even starting a fight or giving you proper judgment + the ending would be the same as neutral route.
But if it’s Genocide up until the Last Corridor, that means Flowey had his “oh flip, they’re gonna kill me too” realization. No way he does what he does at the end of Neutral if that whole thing just happened two minutes ago.
I wish you could use Papyrus's head as a backpack (Giving you advice and more inventory) and if the player wants to continue with the geno route like as done in deltarune chapter 2 with noelle, and make papyrus... Well, you already know "Dustbelief"
@@ethernal1646You are half right on that, there's a noticeable sound change when stuff is animated but it's always generally got more frames since I can add them in, as opposed to recordings, where I can't do that
I think that to achive this you need to deal *as little* damage as possible. Similiar to Mettaton NEO, who has different dialouge If you don't hit him hard enough.
Actually thats.... kind of true,you see ,to get the dialogue you're talking about you need to abort the gen0cid3 route in hotland and go fight mettaton,he will still be NEO but it will go on as a leaderless neutral ending after that,so it doesn't depend on hitting hard enough,but failing to kill 40 fellas
@@sneerybog9399 it's not leaderless alphys becomes the " queen" The leaderless ending is if you kill regular undyne and mettaton EX alongside toriel and papyrus and at least a few other monsters Everything else you said was right tho
I've seen this concept floating around, just like Papyrus's head has been, so glad to see you've proven yet again how good you are at animating cool concepts! ...Even with the most cursed process imaginable. 2:05 THE SPRITE LMAO 3:05 He just rolls off omg. 3:29 I love how he's just accepted it. No disability dissuades the Great Papyrus! 4:11 I really don't think Sans is interested in showing up rn lmao. 5:04 It is quite beautiful to look at however. 5:43 diohfasio that is such a Toby detail. 6:13 The reference to his neutral death tho- 7:14 Yeah he's so mad lmao. Like you did spare Papyrus, but really Frisk? Really? 7:48 Makes sense why Papyrus can't show up here lol. Long way to roll. 9:42 Hah Sans locked you out for being a jerk. 12:18 Yeah he's pissed. Could be more pissed, but still pissed. 15:00 Right cus Papyrus doesn't exactly have the ability to cook anymore. 15:53 That's probably the most mature way to word the fact that he's still just a head. Genuinely impressed with how accurate this dialogue is to Papyrus, all of it feels canon. Especially love how Papyrus being reduced to a head was taken more seriously in the ending phonecall.
Thanks! I never really said it before but, I was kinda shocked to hear so many people say this felt cannon, guess I just didn't think so myself at the time but ye And also yeah, haha the snowman thing is something I'm still kinda proud of since it was a split decision thing to add
How would this work in the pacifist route but you still dust papyrus's body away? Would sans or undyne react any different? Would the pacifist run be aborted?
A pacifist route would effectively be aborted yeah, since without papyrus being present you wouldn't be able to get the hangout with undyne, and without befriending undyne it'd turn into a neutral ending. There'd probably be a bunch of variations in neutral endings, not just with the king Papyrus one, though. There'd be some differences in dialogue if you were to behead him in neutral, like Papyrus' dialogue would be different after the fight and he'd say some changed stuff when next to his house, specifically stuff relating to Snowdin being empty would be replaced with something else since it doesn't get evacuated in neutral for obvious reasons. Sans would have some changed dialogue in a neutral route at the waterfall sentry point, I actually made some up but didn't have time to put it together: * ... * so you made it past my brother...? * not gonna lie, i'm surprised he didn't lose his head at the defeat. * oh wait... he did. * ... * probably not your proudest moment, huh? * i'd give you a score of 6 out of 10. * but hey, who am i to judge?
@@JQR. but cant papyrus ask sans to take him to undyne's house? I can imagine a funny moment where you see papyrus's head over sans's head on front of undyne's house and then undyne is all like "wtf" when she sees papyrus The dialogue is pretty good btw, 10/10
I just had a thought now while reading the comments... What if you break/leave papyrus as a head but spare everyone else? Like what kind of outcomes would that have besides subtle mentions that Papyrus is just a head? Idk, just a thought. Although now thinking about it, there wouldn't be much differences if you spare anyone else after leaving Papyrus bodyless
I actually think it'd be fun if you could pick up Papyrus' Head and take him with you. He probably wouldn't do much. Maybe using him as an item would act like the Call Option and he could possibly comment on some battles or something but not much. Maybe you could have some extra act options if you end up doing this...? Screw it I'm making a concept. You pick up Papyrus' head. There's some Dialogue from Papyrus as well when you do. * Wowie! You're deciding to take me along? * It almost feels like I have my body again! [You got Papyrus' Head!] Using him in the Overworld just lets you talk to him like the Cell Phone, buuuuuut if you try to drop him... * You tried to drop Papyrus on the ground. * He just hops back into your pocket. As for the info. * Papyrus' Head - Not so forgettable now. [More below!]
He'd also have an act option! It's basically just a second Check option where Papyrus gives a comment about whoever you're fighting. If you ended up using him as an ITEM in battle, he scares away the encounter [Essentially counting as a Flee]. This could only be used against CERTAIN enemies though. Bosses you obviously can't scare away, and I feel as if something like Temmie wouldn't be too scared either. He has OTHER effects versus certain characters though. Undyne * You used Papyrus' Head. P: Undyne! You don't have to do this! I convinced the Human to stop fighting a while ago! My lessons worked! [To... an Extent-] * Undyne's attack Lowered. [1 turn later] * PAPYRUS, THEY DID THIS TO YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE! NGAHHHHH- * Undyne's attack sharply rose! Mettaton [EX Specifically] * You used Papyrus' Head. M: OH, I SEE YOU'VE BROUGHT ANOTHER FAN ALONG, DARLING! * Papyrus seems to be freaking out over seeing his Idol. [+250 Rating - Spooky!]
Also while it isn't POSSIBLE to fight Sans if you do this, seeing as Papyrus has been spared by this point, I still wanna give Papyrus some dialogue for this. * SANS! YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS! I'M STILL HERE! * ... You honestly forgot Papyrus was even in your pocket. You chuck his skull at Sans. *Miss* * really, usin' my own brother to try and attack me? rude. * I'M OKAY! [The I'M OKAY would come from off-screen lol]
May as well do one for Asgore as well! [You show Papyrus' Head to Asgore. He looks a bit confused for a second] * AH! HELLO KING ASGORE! I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU COULD LET MY FRIEND HERE CROSS THE BARRIER! [..... Asgore does not look amused. His defense raises.]
Just to note, using the skull or Papyrus Check in most battles would briefly replace the music with Bonetrousle before the check is over/the enemy flees. [Though for the bosses it would work differently. [Undyne and Sans] it would just pause their music while he spoke, Asgore's music would have a SMALL pause before cutting to Bonetrousle and cutting back, and Mettaton's theme would actually SPEED UP if you use Papyrus' head, only during Paps' dialogue though!]
Time to make up a quick Papyrus check for every enemy that I can remember from the top of my head (Post-Snowdin seeing as you can't get Papyrus' head before then lol)- Woshua: * OH! I needed to clean a bit of the dust off from when I lost my body, thanks! Aaron: * Ah, the joys of Muscles! I definitely had some when I had arms! Nyeh heh! Temmie: * These little things honestly creep me out a bit... Nyeh- Mad Dummy: * I'd chuck some bones at them for attacking you, but I'm kind of out of them... Nyeh.... Undyne: * I'm not going to be able to make it to future cooking lessons... [Papyrus frowns] Pyrope: * CAREFUL!!! DON'T LET ME EXPLODE BY ACCIDENT- Vulkin: * If you see one with a Hotdog, tell it that Sans said hi! He sold them over here a while back! R.G. 01/02: * Some more of the Royals Guards! I'm.... not going to be able to join it anytime soon... Mettaton [Box]: * My favorite cooking show host! Madjick: * Ooh! I want to see a Magic Trick! Knight Knight: * Just being around them is making me feel like Sans, Nyeh- Mettaton [EX]: [Papyrus is too stunned by Mettaton's looks to say anything] Final Froggit/Whimsalot: * The Castle Guards! Not much to say about them.
I had an idea to mix with the key item idea for like the best neutral run you could get, and then you take him to alphys’ lab and she uses one of those mini mettatons from the attacks, and if there were to be the undyne date papyrus would just roll in and undyne would be super confused. Just an idea I had for a more lighthearted tone
That's a kool pitch! I originally planned out to have you carry him around after the encounter in your inventory, like you said, but didn't want to change the plot up too much for this. Still maybe I'll revisit this at some point since a bunch of other people want to see him carried around, unsure
everytime i see the call part,my heart just break into pieces beacuse even after all,papyrus still happy and believing,its just,cute,and harmful at the same time.... good work on that video bud i give it a 10/10
I feel like Toby would've and should've actually done this, except that it would sort of ruin the otherwise dark tone of the genocide run by combining it with the humor of the pacifist run.
Fair, though I do feel like the genocide route itself has quite a few times where humor still rears it's head, albeit extremely sparsely, more in a dark-humor sort of way to still fit the serious tone. My main examples that come to mind would be, the joke mettaton NEO fight or burger pants being the last man standing in the hotland/hotel area, still working his job even at basically the end of the world!
It could be a neutral run exclusive sort of deal, since papyrus's head comes out anyways when you kill papyrus in the neutral route, you could maybe get an alternative version of the true pacifist run where papyrus has no body.
I feel like he could've added it if it was given the option to either keep him as a head ( leading to a neutral route ), or kill him ( still continuing genocide route ). Papyrus was still comical even during Genocide route before this, so this option of killing his head still wouldn't make Genocide any less dark and eerie, it would just add more to it knowing even when he has a chance at living as just a head, you still kill him.
My heart is slowly crumbling away seeing this video 😭. Especially when papyrus kept being positive. And at the phone call, I just can’t get over how we killed almost everyone else but papyrus has no clue that we killed them.
Question about the neutral route version of this: Sans would completely disappear after that or would it continue to appear normally? What would he have said if had gone with the "yes" option in the judgment? Also great vid bud, really
Sans is just gone for the whole thing until the judgement hall, it'd just be a bit ofd if he stuck around after since although you didn't kill papyrus, you still beheaded him, the excuse here is that sans takes papyrus inside the house after the undyne encounter, which is why either of them aren't seen after. As for the 'yes' option in the judgement hall, I actually wrote that down! Here it is: * ah. i see. * ... * well, crazy idea but why not use it now? * after all... * Y o u j u s t w a n t e d t o s e e w h a t i' d s a y. * ... * and don't beat people up. capiche?
Ya know, ive always felt that some bosses shouldnt be requiered for genocide, because in the case of papyrus, or toriel, wouldnt it be much more cruel to leave just them?
I really like this, it sort of reminds me of when you visits undynes house if you kill her and papyrus is still alive except of course the hangout can’t happen since she’s dead, it’s like a so close yet so far kinda moment where you never get to truly have those moments with these characters due to your past decisions (I really like rambling huh)
Oh sí! Tus vídeos siempre levantan el ánimo, seguramente cuando se estrenen los demás capitulos de Deltarune tendrás mucho material para desarrollar la Weird route sigue así 👍🏻✨
1. * (The door is locked.) 2. You'd get a variation of the 'Betrayed Undyne' ending, the one where she blames you for Asgore's death and Becomes Queen. Since Papyrus isn't present you wouldn't really be able to befriend undyne and get a 'pacifist' ending.
I swear, even for as old as this game is new surprises always pop-up. Even for endings that 95% of players will never get… The dedication fills you with determination 🌟
You could make for a complete geno route of this concept, like, Frisk does a Insanity!Sans and keeps Papyrus head as a trophy while Dustin everyone underground =] You could make this by putting the option on the act button.
Who knows? Maybe in another neutral ending where undyne isn't killed off (since she goes into hiding in every ending, minus one specific one, where that happens)
But NoBody Came...
I deem this the new pin worthy pun
Remember there are still monsters in the underground even monster kid
@@scark_barkamalgamates is a liquids mk doesnt have arm
i just picked up on the pun
Ba-dum tss
It would have been more hilarious if we just took Papyrus' head as a Key Item, and talk to him like calling him with our Cellphone.
Lel, that was also an idea I had but I didn't go for it since I didn't want to derail the game too much here, as funny as it would've been
New god of war update looks a bit weird
@@epicnate113"Guys why does odin look like a skeleton?" Edit: a more fitting sentence "Guys why does odin look like a fish?"
@@epicnate113personalised copy
Your a Goddam genius
idk if this is a hot take or not these days, but the Neutral route endings are so underrated. They're so diverse, and even the happiest ones have a lot of moral ambiguity to them, so getting another ending in the form of this video really scratches that itch.
Precisely what I wanted to show with this! I don't think it's that much of a crazy opinion as it was before since it looks like the community came around to giving them a chance, but they are still pretty underground (pun not intended) even now
I tried to balance the goofy outcome with sparing papyrus, with the bleak neutral end and the sans judgement towards the end, cause as you said, it's not always black and white with them!
It’s not. Even out of all the people always hollering about what fancontent “We need more of” in this fandom, almost nobody talks about how we’ve forgotten about the Neutral Endings
@@OffbrandDTravelerI suppose. When I said the community came around to it, I was mostly talking about the awareness gained from bigger creators, such as Dorked, shedding light on it with their videos.
Even then though, the wider fanbase still knows nothing of it, which is why I said that they are mostly underground! So yeah, you right
Yeah! neutral is underrated fr
Does "papyrus lives as a head" change any other neutral ending besides the papyrus king ending? What about horrortale with papyrus as a head without body?
What I like about this is the subtlety of the changes. The plot doesn't change massively from the regular papyrus ending. Papyrus remains his usual effervescent self... but just as things start to get on top of him in the regular Papyrus ending, you get subtle hints about how the disability is affecting him. He never pities himself over it or blames you over it, he just acknowledges that things are harder for both himself and everyone else as a result, before doubling down on his determination to make everything better again regardless. That humble lack of complaint just makes you feel even guiltier for hurting both him and the underground in such a profound way. I feel guiltier in front of a dented but unbowed Papyrus than I would in front of a completely broken one.
You described what I was aiming for to a tee, mr Napoleon! I wanted this to start off comedic with how everything in Undertale normally is and slowly as the video goes on the veil of your actions would slowly be pulled back. In some ways this is meant to be more tragic than his normal death as he's been left crippled and all his friends are gone, here.
I did have some other ideas of how this would go, such as the possibility that Papyrus would get put into your key items and join you through the game, which would've been more lighthearted in nature, but didn't want to derail the plot as much and wanted to make it manageable to get out in a short amount of time, as I've actually got something *else* I'd been making on the sidelines!
quality comment right here, just pure insight
This is heartbreaking. Papyrus is literally crippled from doing anything he loves anymore and Sans has to do all the work because the rest of the Underground is dead, leaving both of them and the remaining citizens to deal with the grief and loss.
This ending is almost as bad as Leaderless.
Worse I'd argue for papyrus' condition alone
not really, its basically just leaderless with a hurt papyrus + a less depressed sans. and overall the underground is in a lot better shape than leaderless due to sans and papyrus leading.@@No.1RatedSalesman
@@marioluigibros.8176 I mean... I guess
...but, papyrus...
Man, this is heart wrenching. Going back to Papyrus's house and seeing him unable to even open the door, along with his somehow positive attitude despite his condition and the dreadful music still playing, you managed to create a truly tragic scene. With the context that you're able to reset and fix everything, it just amplifies it all tenfold too. Sure, you "spared" Papyrus, but continuing this route as opposed to resetting is just cruel. You can still call Papyrus and hear what he has to say, but if you really cared for him then wouldn't you just reset and not leave him completely crippled? In this route you really torture him, killing all of his loved ones that you can and leaving him without a body, deprived of the ability to do what he once loved. Normally there would be hope for Alphys to build him a new body, but in neutral endings where Undyne is killed... yeah, it's not gonna happen. The last phone call really makes it feel like an ending where you deliberately went out of your way to make the life of the one person who believed in you as miserable as you possibly could, and it feels even more sick and twisted than the genocide route in many ways.
I agree. This type of neutral route is worse..
You're basically prolonging his suffering, which hurts more than just killing him
hi mystic
*I AIN'T READING ALLAT 🗣️🔥🔥*
Now persue the route where he becomes king.
King papyrus head.
Freak man 😟
I wonder how many more No Mercy runs Papyrus would have stopped if he could survive as a head
Mmmm.. about 400+
Exactly
"Why didn't the skeleton go the party? He had
*no body* to go with =)"
Now it's possible to make a snowball with Papyrus's head :D
papyrus's head can roll to party
It'll be an amazing snowball, maybe great even
This is true in both the literal term, and the why the Ike was intending it.
Why didn't the skeleton go to the prom? Cause he was ugly fat and no one liked him
Nah mate, cuz he was ugly, fat, and no one liked him!
I really like these Undertale and Deltarune "What if...?" videos. They are quite entertaining and have a quality standard. I hope you keep making videos like these.
I'll be doing a mixture of them! Ye
Well he did say he wanted to be HEAD of the royal guard, dreams do come true
Why is nobody talking about how sans says “but hey, who am I to JUDGE?” That’s so creative
I wonder what'd happen if you called Papyrus while Undyne's chasing you to Hotland. Normally you can't call him when the game considers him "dead" (and thus he missed his meeting), but this time he isn't _actually_ dead, just reverse-decapitated.
In the middle of the video, there was some text explaining that while the game considers Papyrus "dead" (as in: any events that normally involve him play out without him), you can still call him.
Probably that situation would play out the same as before, with some subtly changed dialogue from Papyrus, and Undyne would still politely stop to let you finish your call.
i love how Papyrus just S P I N after the fight
It's not impossible that he'll just... regrow a new body at some point? Might take a while. In a world with magic, I'm not tossing anything off the table.
Well its supposed that their body is made of magic, so meanwhile his soul is okay and have the sufficient magic technically he could (English isnt my first language be chill with me xd)
@@Black-s1i you wrote almost everything perfectly! The one thing that's incorrect is that it should've been "his soul is ok and *has* enough magic" bc soul is an "it" and when something is a "he, she, it" you use "has" instead of "have"!
But I've read much worse from people who have English as their first language, so you did great!
Based on the fact that Undyne has seemingly permanently lost her eyeball from some past injury (since the Undying shows that it actually IS gone and she's not just wearing the eyepatch for fun), presumably monsters can't just regrow their bodyparts, and even if they could I doubt they could regenerate their ENTIRE body.
@@curlyfordoge4366 papyrus could also just. Make himself a prosthetic body. He has plenty of bones he uses for attacks and so does sans
@@mertensiam3384 That presupposes though that bullet magic is capable of producing bones not only complex enough to be shaped into body-parts (the only bones the skeleton brothers ever seem to create are femurs, not the pelvis, spine, ribcages, etc. that comprise their actual bodies), but also to adequately serve as a body (i.e. that they are fully tangible enough to interact with physical matter, can be smoothly articulated, can be easily maintained enough for the bullets to KEEP their shape and position, etc.) For all we know, this could just be beyond what Papyrus, or any monster, can practically achieve.
Now I'm just imagining an au where Frisk decided to spare Papyrus last minute before his head turned to dust and shoved a piece of food in his mouth, healing him but not bringing his body back and now frisk has a backpack with Papyrus in it carrying him around during their journey and hell! Maybe he even assists them in battle! Using his bone as weapons and maybe making little bone platforms for you to land on so you can avoid attacks easier!! Just imagine Undyne not seeing Papy in the backpack and getting really confused when "the human" summons bones in order to block all the spears 😂😂😂
And then getting horrified after seeing your friend and Disciple being now, just a head. She wouldn't be happy, just shocked and confused
This would be hilarious, but it could only work in a world like Underfell where everyone is evil. Otherwise, Pap won’t fight, and no one would fight him.
@@isaacskinner5565 No, but that's the cool part! He would be in the backpack so no one would see him and he wouldn't attack anyone! Rather he would simply make it easier for you to avoid attacks!
@Naku_Creates what about when the human kills people?
@@No.1RatedSalesman Hm, good point... Maybe Papyrus wouldn't think that the monsters just teleported away? Considering that Sans uses shortcuts so often Papyrus could miss seeing them turn to dust and just assume they left... Or if you want a more cruel path you could say that Papyrus is scared of the human killing them so he just helps them in order to stay alive, the even more upset part would be that at the end the human would probably just kill Papyrus anyway.
I always love these "what if..." guys from Deltarune and undertale Keep it up! You are on a good path
Thank you dude, means a lot to me! I got a bunch more things I want to show
AN AD CAME ON "Today we're gonna go head to head" :cry: HOW DID THEY KNOW
I like this route. Everyone says you torture Papyrus and how it's supposed to make you feel guilty, but no one really talks about why he doesn't blame you. He wanted to save you from your evil, and he did, even if it was just barely, and cost him body. The way he sees it, he saved you from yourself, so he's happy with his life now.
"who am i to judge?"
Sir, that's literally your main job.
😂
You are @greenhydra10
It actually isn’t. He isn’t a judge, that is simply the title the fandom gave him. His official position is a sentry in snowdin. What he *does* is judge your moral clarity by analyzing your LOVE and exp.
Is so sad to see Papyrus sad because he can’t do anything for himself anymore, I can imagine the pain that it feels to not being able to do anything that you like to do anymore.
so refreshing to see new undertale fan content that's only a week old! not only is the writing spot on with head-only papyrus but the way sans responded to it was also really interesting
I love how strangely canon these videos feel
Yeah this feels so legit...
You wrote everyone really well in this, it felt like this could have actually been in the game!
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a scrapped idea for the genocide route
The writing is toby spot on!
Thank you! I kept a notepad on me where I'd write some lines and rehearse it to myself to see if it sounded good
@@JQR. honestly its amazeing
oh my tobys
I wonder if this could happen as a fun value. Or perhaps.. change a fun value event entirely?
nope
I mean ye that could be something, I saw some other suggestions that it could be triggered through doing the smallest amount of damage to him on purpose, either could work to be fair
@@JQR. yeah I believe that this would be more likely to occur by doing a small amount of damage, since this would appear to be a core component of the game.
Fun value events usually change a singular thing about the game, this would do more than that
imagine this kept you on the genocide route because technically "papyrus is dead" according to enemies
It likely would following that logic!
Well-- at least until Sans gets encountered, dude always knows what's up
@@JQR. Imagine Sans will start his normal genocide speech, and then says something like: "ah, hell not" and just teleports away without even starting a fight or giving you proper judgment + the ending would be the same as neutral route.
But if it’s Genocide up until the Last Corridor, that means Flowey had his “oh flip, they’re gonna kill me too” realization. No way he does what he does at the end of Neutral if that whole thing just happened two minutes ago.
I wish you could use Papyrus's head as a backpack (Giving you advice and more inventory) and if the player wants to continue with the geno route like as done in deltarune chapter 2 with noelle, and make papyrus... Well, you already know "Dustbelief"
A papyrus head item would be funny
Dustswap
You can automatically tell when something changes from the original in these animations by the sudden frame drops
As in when the frame drops it's animated or when the frame drops it's a recording? 🤔
@@JQR. when it gets animated
@@ethernal1646You are half right on that, there's a noticeable sound change when stuff is animated but it's always generally got more frames since I can add them in, as opposed to recordings, where I can't do that
@@JQR.Will you make more animations like this?
@@themagnificentsansandmylaz4115Most likely!
I think that to achive this you need to deal *as little* damage as possible.
Similiar to Mettaton NEO, who has different dialouge If you don't hit him hard enough.
Thats a myth he has the exact same diálogue no matter how hard you hit him the thing that changes it is not killing everyone on hotlands
@@danielgonzalez-vm5lj OH.
Thank you, I didn't know that that was a myth!
or maybe just forgot.
Actually thats.... kind of true,you see ,to get the dialogue you're talking about you need to abort the gen0cid3 route in hotland and go fight mettaton,he will still be NEO but it will go on as a leaderless neutral ending after that,so it doesn't depend on hitting hard enough,but failing to kill 40 fellas
@@sneerybog9399 it's not leaderless alphys becomes the " queen"
The leaderless ending is if you kill regular undyne and mettaton EX alongside toriel and papyrus and at least a few other monsters
Everything else you said was right tho
@@danielgonzalez-vm5lj oh yeah sorry i forgor about alphys
"who am i to judge" sans. knowing damn well that he judges people as a job
this dialogue is so good!!!
Thank you Yuti!
I've seen this concept floating around, just like Papyrus's head has been, so glad to see you've proven yet again how good you are at animating cool concepts!
...Even with the most cursed process imaginable.
2:05 THE SPRITE LMAO
3:05 He just rolls off omg.
3:29 I love how he's just accepted it. No disability dissuades the Great Papyrus!
4:11 I really don't think Sans is interested in showing up rn lmao.
5:04 It is quite beautiful to look at however.
5:43 diohfasio that is such a Toby detail.
6:13 The reference to his neutral death tho-
7:14 Yeah he's so mad lmao. Like you did spare Papyrus, but really Frisk? Really?
7:48 Makes sense why Papyrus can't show up here lol. Long way to roll.
9:42 Hah Sans locked you out for being a jerk.
12:18 Yeah he's pissed. Could be more pissed, but still pissed.
15:00 Right cus Papyrus doesn't exactly have the ability to cook anymore.
15:53 That's probably the most mature way to word the fact that he's still just a head.
Genuinely impressed with how accurate this dialogue is to Papyrus, all of it feels canon. Especially love how Papyrus being reduced to a head was taken more seriously in the ending phonecall.
@@marioluigibros.8176 Like he'd be more mad if you fully killed Papyrus.
I get it@@TheAdvertisement
Thanks! I never really said it before but, I was kinda shocked to hear so many people say this felt cannon, guess I just didn't think so myself at the time but ye
And also yeah, haha the snowman thing is something I'm still kinda proud of since it was a split decision thing to add
@@JQR. It's subtle details like that that really help! It fills out the world and Papyrus's character in a similar way to Toby.
You know keeping him as a key item would be evil as he watches us kill everyone
How would this work in the pacifist route but you still dust papyrus's body away? Would sans or undyne react any different? Would the pacifist run be aborted?
A pacifist route would effectively be aborted yeah, since without papyrus being present you wouldn't be able to get the hangout with undyne, and without befriending undyne it'd turn into a neutral ending.
There'd probably be a bunch of variations in neutral endings, not just with the king Papyrus one, though.
There'd be some differences in dialogue if you were to behead him in neutral, like Papyrus' dialogue would be different after the fight and he'd say some changed stuff when next to his house, specifically stuff relating to Snowdin being empty would be replaced with something else since it doesn't get evacuated in neutral for obvious reasons.
Sans would have some changed dialogue in a neutral route at the waterfall sentry point, I actually made some up but didn't have time to put it together:
* ...
* so you made it past my brother...?
* not gonna lie, i'm surprised he didn't lose his head at the defeat.
* oh wait...
he did.
* ...
* probably not your proudest moment, huh?
* i'd give you a score of 6 out of 10.
* but hey, who am i to judge?
@@JQR. but cant papyrus ask sans to take him to undyne's house? I can imagine a funny moment where you see papyrus's head over sans's head on front of undyne's house and then undyne is all like "wtf" when she sees papyrus
The dialogue is pretty good btw, 10/10
@@dylanzlol7293ok ok, holup, that's actually a really well thought out idea (and damn, a missed opportunity for me), I could imagine it
@@JQR. yeah. There could be a follow-up video with the vast amount of potential this idea has
Now his dialouge portrait is a full body portrait
For a lot of reasons this is a joke
1:31 "If only it were 6 numbers higher"
Head of the Royal Guard is real . . .
:D
I just had a thought now while reading the comments...
What if you break/leave papyrus as a head but spare everyone else? Like what kind of outcomes would that have besides subtle mentions that Papyrus is just a head?
Idk, just a thought. Although now thinking about it, there wouldn't be much differences if you spare anyone else after leaving Papyrus bodyless
Man, that bit of the end of the king Papyrus ending when he says he misses Undyne is still super sad :(
"And that kids... is how waltz of the wizzard had skully..."
They took “well, at least I still have my head” to a whole new level
I actually think it'd be fun if you could pick up Papyrus' Head and take him with you.
He probably wouldn't do much. Maybe using him as an item would act like the Call Option and he could possibly comment on some battles or something but not much.
Maybe you could have some extra act options if you end up doing this...?
Screw it I'm making a concept.
You pick up Papyrus' head. There's some Dialogue from Papyrus as well when you do.
* Wowie! You're deciding to take me along?
* It almost feels like I have my body again!
[You got Papyrus' Head!]
Using him in the Overworld just lets you talk to him like the Cell Phone, buuuuuut if you try to drop him...
* You tried to drop Papyrus on the ground.
* He just hops back into your pocket.
As for the info.
* Papyrus' Head - Not so forgettable now.
[More below!]
He'd also have an act option! It's basically just a second Check option where Papyrus gives a comment about whoever you're fighting.
If you ended up using him as an ITEM in battle, he scares away the encounter [Essentially counting as a Flee]. This could only be used against CERTAIN enemies though. Bosses you obviously can't scare away, and I feel as if something like Temmie wouldn't be too scared either. He has OTHER effects versus certain characters though.
Undyne
* You used Papyrus' Head.
P: Undyne! You don't have to do this! I convinced the Human to stop fighting a while ago! My lessons worked! [To... an Extent-]
* Undyne's attack Lowered.
[1 turn later]
* PAPYRUS, THEY DID THIS TO YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE! NGAHHHHH-
* Undyne's attack sharply rose!
Mettaton [EX Specifically]
* You used Papyrus' Head.
M: OH, I SEE YOU'VE BROUGHT ANOTHER FAN ALONG, DARLING!
* Papyrus seems to be freaking out over seeing his Idol.
[+250 Rating - Spooky!]
Also while it isn't POSSIBLE to fight Sans if you do this, seeing as Papyrus has been spared by this point, I still wanna give Papyrus some dialogue for this.
* SANS! YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS! I'M STILL HERE!
* ... You honestly forgot Papyrus was even in your pocket. You chuck his skull at Sans.
*Miss*
* really, usin' my own brother to try and attack me? rude.
* I'M OKAY!
[The I'M OKAY would come from off-screen lol]
May as well do one for Asgore as well!
[You show Papyrus' Head to Asgore. He looks a bit confused for a second]
* AH! HELLO KING ASGORE! I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU COULD LET MY FRIEND HERE CROSS THE BARRIER!
[..... Asgore does not look amused. His defense raises.]
Just to note, using the skull or Papyrus Check in most battles would briefly replace the music with Bonetrousle before the check is over/the enemy flees.
[Though for the bosses it would work differently. [Undyne and Sans] it would just pause their music while he spoke, Asgore's music would have a SMALL pause before cutting to Bonetrousle and cutting back, and Mettaton's theme would actually SPEED UP if you use Papyrus' head, only during Paps' dialogue though!]
Time to make up a quick Papyrus check for every enemy that I can remember from the top of my head (Post-Snowdin seeing as you can't get Papyrus' head before then lol)-
Woshua:
* OH! I needed to clean a bit of the dust off from when I lost my body, thanks!
Aaron:
* Ah, the joys of Muscles! I definitely had some when I had arms! Nyeh heh!
Temmie:
* These little things honestly creep me out a bit... Nyeh-
Mad Dummy:
* I'd chuck some bones at them for attacking you, but I'm kind of out of them... Nyeh....
Undyne:
* I'm not going to be able to make it to future cooking lessons... [Papyrus frowns]
Pyrope:
* CAREFUL!!! DON'T LET ME EXPLODE BY ACCIDENT-
Vulkin:
* If you see one with a Hotdog, tell it that Sans said hi! He sold them over here a while back!
R.G. 01/02:
* Some more of the Royals Guards! I'm.... not going to be able to join it anytime soon...
Mettaton [Box]:
* My favorite cooking show host!
Madjick:
* Ooh! I want to see a Magic Trick!
Knight Knight:
* Just being around them is making me feel like Sans, Nyeh-
Mettaton [EX]:
[Papyrus is too stunned by Mettaton's looks to say anything]
Final Froggit/Whimsalot:
* The Castle Guards! Not much to say about them.
Wow, that's a really imaginative concept... love it !!
looking back it now, i realized that the king papyrus ending was sadder than i thought, idk why but it struck me a year later
I had an idea to mix with the key item idea for like the best neutral run you could get, and then you take him to alphys’ lab and she uses one of those mini mettatons from the attacks, and if there were to be the undyne date papyrus would just roll in and undyne would be super confused.
Just an idea I had for a more lighthearted tone
That's a kool pitch! I originally planned out to have you carry him around after the encounter in your inventory, like you said, but didn't want to change the plot up too much for this. Still maybe I'll revisit this at some point since a bunch of other people want to see him carried around, unsure
I guess it’d make more sense, given that he’s a living skeleton and all. He and Sans could’ve probably easily detached their body parts anyway.
everytime i see the call part,my heart just break into pieces beacuse even after all,papyrus still happy and believing,its just,cute,and harmful at the same time....
good work on that video bud i give it a 10/10
I feel like Toby would've and should've actually done this, except that it would sort of ruin the otherwise dark tone of the genocide run by combining it with the humor of the pacifist run.
Fair, though I do feel like the genocide route itself has quite a few times where humor still rears it's head, albeit extremely sparsely, more in a dark-humor sort of way to still fit the serious tone.
My main examples that come to mind would be, the joke mettaton NEO fight or burger pants being the last man standing in the hotland/hotel area, still working his job even at basically the end of the world!
It could be a neutral run exclusive sort of deal, since papyrus's head comes out anyways when you kill papyrus in the neutral route, you could maybe get an alternative version of the true pacifist run where papyrus has no body.
I feel like he could've added it if it was given the option to either keep him as a head ( leading to a neutral route ), or kill him ( still continuing genocide route ). Papyrus was still comical even during Genocide route before this, so this option of killing his head still wouldn't make Genocide any less dark and eerie, it would just add more to it knowing even when he has a chance at living as just a head, you still kill him.
My heart is slowly crumbling away seeing this video 😭. Especially when papyrus kept being positive. And at the phone call, I just can’t get over how we killed almost everyone else but papyrus has no clue that we killed them.
The fact that papyrus can survive decapitation proves how powerful he is
the damage done was 42063 SO CLOSE
I love the foreshadowing with sans saying. “Well, I’m not the judge.”
Question about the neutral route version of this: Sans would completely disappear after that or would it continue to appear normally? What would he have said if had gone with the "yes" option in the judgment? Also great vid bud, really
Sans is just gone for the whole thing until the judgement hall, it'd just be a bit ofd if he stuck around after since although you didn't kill papyrus, you still beheaded him, the excuse here is that sans takes papyrus inside the house after the undyne encounter, which is why either of them aren't seen after.
As for the 'yes' option in the judgement hall, I actually wrote that down! Here it is:
* ah. i see.
* ...
* well, crazy idea but why not use it now?
* after all...
* Y o u j u s t w a n t e d t o s e e w h a t i' d
s a y.
* ...
* and don't beat people up. capiche?
@@JQR. He seems more chill with that then when you said no NGL. I love it
@@PoggieKingSMG3because the "no" is more honest
"Remember With Great power, there comes great Calls"
Ya know, ive always felt that some bosses shouldnt be requiered for genocide, because in the case of papyrus, or toriel, wouldnt it be much more cruel to leave just them?
fair, but genocide is about killing everything, not torturing a few people and killing everyone else.
“You didn’t do a violence!” Is still the funniest line today
Remember the snow paps?Without the head?What If after pap’s head got chopped off he put his real head on the snow pap’s?😂😂😂
This should be the canon lore for Tears In The Rain Sans
Still a better ending than the one where Papyrus was made to listen to Toriel doing a bunch of puns
How can that happen?
@@pogggaming4470 Get all the main characters to unite near the barrier
True pacifist is “TRULY, THE WORST POSSIBLE ENDING”.
@@CJSpider10 that’s Papyrus being overdramatic
@@pogggaming4470 That’s the point.
"I could NEVER send him into battle! He'd get ripped into little smiling shreds." - Undyne
If I remember well, Papyrus can actually fly. So at least he could actually open doors with his mouth.
Man is built like the cupcake from that FNAF Movie
Why do people think the fly thing is actually an canon thing for papyrus??😭
@@dev.1.1.1he does it in game 😭😭😭💀💀
@@mishagaming1075 but he cant fly, it was just for the funny
Who needs Kratos and Mimir when you got Frisk and Papyrus?
Me, the answer is me but still
I really like this, it sort of reminds me of when you visits undynes house if you kill her and papyrus is still alive except of course the hangout can’t happen since she’s dead, it’s like a so close yet so far kinda moment where you never get to truly have those moments with these characters due to your past decisions (I really like rambling huh)
Sans: Papyrus, no matter how hard i try, your always aHEAD!
papyrus: ...
*You got the Neutral Run.
Chara: F-
You’d imagine how many head puns sans would make and papyrus will hopelessly listen to them
At least he can truly become “HEAD” of the Royal Guard…?
Sans: well papyrus I Geuss you could say you thought one step A HEAD of them eeh.
Pap: SANS I SWEAR TO GOD I NEED A BODY
Oh sí! Tus vídeos siempre levantan el ánimo, seguramente cuando se estrenen los demás capitulos de Deltarune tendrás mucho material para desarrollar la Weird route
sigue así 👍🏻✨
This is even more eerie, its just Papyrus acting normal, compelrely obluvious to the Genocide which took place in snowdin.
imagine the next human falls down and the leader of the underground is a talking skull. what would you even do at that point
To be honest, this fate for papyrus is worse than death :I
hes so powerful he learned how to roll with his head only immediately
I need to know:
What happens if you open the door for papyrus?
What happens if you spare papyrus on his head form and then spare everyone else?
1. * (The door is locked.)
2. You'd get a variation of the 'Betrayed Undyne' ending, the one where she blames you for Asgore's death and Becomes Queen. Since Papyrus isn't present you wouldn't really be able to befriend undyne and get a 'pacifist' ending.
@@JQR. ok
Imagine Alphys making a completely mechanical body for Papyrus
I think about the concept of Robopaps a lot
I swear, even for as old as this game is new surprises always pop-up. Even for endings that 95% of players will never get… The dedication fills you with determination 🌟
Remember, this is a fanmade concept
@@sonicfanboy3375remember, undertale still have secrets
@@eduardotejeris3506 yes but this is a fanmade thing
@@mikadosannoji553 Yea I know
this does a pretty good job at keeping paper in character
edit: sans too
why tf did i call him paper 😭
I THOUGHT IT SAID "Would Papyrus survive a head" 😭😭😭
I can see the reasoning being "he was the only one who seemed to really want to fight so I fought him"
We can only imagine what was going through Chara's head at that moment
all frisk did was make the text icon (the talking head when someone speaks) accurate to papyrus, he did nothing wrong
imagine omega, flowey, or Photoshop flowey but you’re fighting with papyruses head
I thought at first, it will be a dusttale papyrus lol
"The talking skull is not decoration" just killed me fr💀💀
This is tragic and comedic at the same time.
The "Just A Head" fan animation really adds to this whole video
"long pause till he bit the dust" is crazy.
2:06 good to know the player stopped
I really like these types of concepts/what if you make
Thank you!
*i was expecting this to be a dub of that only a head papyrus comic, but this is great too!*
This was definitely partly inspired by it! I recently stumbled into comic again and it sparked this
@@JQR. *fair enough. Great work tho! Almost feels like itd be in the game proper!*
Bro, Papyrus really has his soul in his head 💀🙏
You first Undertale concept? Awesome.
I guess it is! I thought I had already made one
bruh that is worse than killing him, you paralyzed the poor guy for life 😭🙏
But he can roll and talk
Honeslty here fight was the actual merciful option
You could make for a complete geno route of this concept, like, Frisk does a Insanity!Sans and keeps Papyrus head as a trophy while Dustin everyone underground =]
You could make this by putting the option on the act button.
Reading your own comment, fills you with CRUELTY.
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I love finding my cringe sleep deprived comments after a long time. ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
I can just imagine papyrus rolling around on the ground casually💀😭
there is skeleTon of fish in the sea. they said, but noBody believed them.
this joke did NOT make mettaTon of people laugh.
@@emisstuffleomy head fell off from laughing at this joke
@@JQR. that one goat me good
i honesty was hoping that alyphs would build papyrus a robot body after the ending
Who knows? Maybe in another neutral ending where undyne isn't killed off (since she goes into hiding in every ending, minus one specific one, where that happens)
“You didn’t do a violence!”
I legit choked on my laugh, XD