thanks for this vid. I was given an Atto as a loaner by my workshop while my EQC was in for a service and I found the controls very confusing; particularly without my reading glasses (hey, can't wear those in traffic!). I kinda soorta managed to activate something, pushing the button left. But it intermittently kept beeping at me and I had no idea what it was about. Nor could I figure out how to see the set speed or how to adjust it. Both my Merc and my VW show the cruise control set speed clearly on the dash. So once I got home, I found this video. I'll try it again when I take the car back :-) Thanks again, very useful video.
6:25 I find that when it disengages by it self the warning is not obvious enough, its quite sudden with very low sound. It also doesnt warn you well enough when its back on. I find it rediculous that their lane drift warning is so sensitive, yet disengaging lane keeping assist ON A BEND is rather sudden and without warning or i cant hear it nor feel it. It cant see that there is abend ahead and warn me BEFORE the actual bend? at the moment this is tesla autopilot 2014 version.
Looks like Atto ACC is similar to my Leaf, which is what, 2018? Basically all behavior and complains in some comments explain one word - "LAG". Its simply takes time to everything-accelerate, brake, recognise road curvature. Its like 2014 smartphone, that's lag, plain and simple. Btw, start stop acc from manual: "Follow-to-stop/startFollow-start If the vehicle stops for less than 3 minutes, the driver needs to reactivate ACC by pressing the accelerator pedal or using the ACC Cruise button."
I just test drove an Atto 3 today and on the motorway with not much curve it decided to just ignore the lane and let the car drift into the lane next to me. Also it kept turning itself off. Didn't have the problem with Kia on a different test drive so really disappointed as I really like the BYD
Yeah except when ICC decides to cross lanes without warning at freeway speeds or swerve and nearly collide into concrete barriers. This happened to me. BYD didn't seem to care at all when I raised it with them showing them videos of this happening. BEWARE when using this feature for your and others safety.
Mine seems very sensitive to input from the steering wheel so driver input overrides the automatic steering with little effort. Did you find it pulled strongly against your input?
Thanks for going through that. What is the difference between when the cruise control symbol is Green, and when it is Grey? I know when it is not there at all, it's completely off.
I drove one in WA last week. Lane keep assist kept fighting me ao I turned it off. It also started drifting at one stage. The green font for the cc speed lacks contrast and size making it hard to read. It isn’t smooth enough speeding up or slowing down. I found is you held the set button down just after a speed sign change it would set the cc to the new speed but only when the sign was faster. Sign recognition worked but it would pick up signs on exit ramps and then complain you were going too fast. There is an emergency lane keep assist function that has to be deactivated each time the car is started. It activates violently if you drift across a lane without indicating. Before that it will beep incessantly if you are close to drifting. The 5kph changes took too much concentration off the road especially with the hard to read setting.
It seems pretty good but doesn't change the indicated limit until you are past it. You often get a different limit shown on the navigation against the system on the dash due to the different sources. It won't read variable speed limits displays at all in my experience. It also seems to assume school zones are always active.
The way the speed limit signage is set up is also critical, they should be at some distance before the intended speed limit not exactly on the location, I guess artificial intelligence is not up there yet with human brain 😅.
Now I just have to confirm in my head which is the one assist button so I can remember to turn it off for every journey, I got jolted the other day and it was not pleasant. In my Ford Everest the steering wheel would just vibrate a tiny bit, far kinder and less surprising.
The "adaptive" part gets easily confused around bends, it sometimes doesn't see the car ahead and accelerates through the bend before jumping on the regen when the road straightens. I really miss a speed limiter function in traffic as the adaptive cruise control isn't really smooth enough to use in the city in my experience. You get that one opportunity to set the speed to the precise speed you want when you first set the cruise on, otherwise it's the 5kph increments.
Turns out I was wrong about needing to reset ACC to set another specific speed if you don't want to use the +-5kph option: "If the lever (2) is pulled down while accelerating, the current speed will be reset as the target cruise speed."
Gotta say, I like to drive, I wonder if we will see more folk accidentally running red lights because they forgot to pay attention and brake.. I also like to drive my line in the lane, not just the centre and not wandering off the edge. I have a MYP on order but wonder how much I'll bother to use all the fancy car in charge stuff. I can see it helping on long trips and intervening in some way when people get tired and doze, that could well save lots of lives. But it seems there are some deliberately taking a nap (or under the weather) because the car can do it very well on the right roads, until the police cruise by of course. Ps thanks Tom enjoy your work.
Public safety announcement for all forms of ‘autonomous’ driving in 2023: Hands on the wheel, eyes on the road. The driver is ultimately responsible for what happens on the road
Just as the wide spread use of standard cruise control resulted in more high speed exits from the road as the driver feel asleep, I suspect misuse of lane assist will result in more than a few accidents.
I’ve been playing with the cruise control on my Atto 3. I feel more comfortable using it on the motorway. To much happening when you drive in the city.
My Atto 3 cruise control switched off while driving in foggy condtions. It would only re-engage when Istpped the car and switched the car off and on again. It then did it again . I drove "manually" for a while and it eventually re-engaed after pushing the buttons a few time. Any comments?
Yes it can be used in a traffic jam - check out my more recent Seal videos - minimum set speed is 30kph but it will of course follow the leading car at slower speeds in traffic
Used my Atto Adaptive Cruise Control on highway yesterday for the 1st time. Quite disappointing compared to one in my 2014 VW Golf. it works ok but is more abrupt than I am used too. The ability not to be able to change speed in 1km is extremely annoying. I like to sit on the speed limit and true 100km speed in Atto appears to be 103kph. Let hope a firmware update can fix this!!
Certainly how I use my ZS EV, which is fairly similar in capability. I don’t think either is really good in city streets. They just go on and off a little to much and also there is always the traffic light issue. The other issue with Lights Tom, is someone stopping just past the light. The car will slow and pull up as normal but of course that may leave you in the intersection, so another time you need to be ready to manually intervene.
You can flick the resume lever up if stopped at the traffic lights once the vehicle in front of you starts moving if you have ACC activated. Adjusting the speed on the ACC system only works in 5km increments. If there is stationary traffic already stopped at the traffic lights as you approach, you must apply the brakes manually to bring the Atto 3 to a complete stop. The ACC system does not recognise stopped traffic. Flick the lever upwards if stopped for under 3 minutes, to resume moving forward and the Atto 3 will start moving, the lines by the car icon on the screen will be brown, meaning the car in front is travelling below the speed limit that you set, but once the vehicle in front speed's up so will the Atto 3 and the lines by the car icon will go from brown to green once your Atto 3 reaches the set speed limit.
Thank you for the informative video! I heard that if the acc or Icc is active the autonomous emergency braking will be disabled , is it the case in atto3 ?
@@mrspeedracer0076 Hmm I’ll have to investigate further but having just driven on a long road trip in the Atto 3, the adaptive cruise control acted appropriately and would brake if needed whenever a leading car would slow down suddenly
Thanks for the video. Wouldn't it be great if the manufacturers of new tech vehicles produced detailed training videos. I think some of the commentors are forgetting this is an assist feature. You are still the driver, it is not autonomous driving. I have only used the Cruise / Lane Assist on rural roads and have found it works well, just like what seems to be the default system that follows the line on the side of the road. If there are lines, it steers, slows and accelerates as required. Does not like you holding the steering wheel too lightly to test how well it is doing, and will let you know in a way that might wake you up if it was due to falling asleep. There are often too many lines and too many unpredictable, unsafe drivers on the road in busy city driving. For city driving I just use regen set to high and drive it myself. The instant slowing when you take the foot of the accelerator, before getting to the brake certainly helps and the one time I have needed to stomp on the brakes it pulled up very quickly with hazard lights flashing away, so assume it took over stopping the car. Main issue I have encountered with cruise is numpties deciding they only need to get a couple of metres past you before moving back into your lane on the highway, causing your vehicle to slow to keep a safe distance from them. That would happen with any brand. In case it is not clear from other posts, if you want to set cruise at a specific speed then drive at that speed when you set it.
For some reason I must be the only viewer who can't see the button when you point to it. The camera needs to zoom in closer at that moment. Best to have someone else to hold the camera while you're driving, but they need to be well coordinated with your words. You can also set up the camera in a fixed position behind you, and zoom in for closeups.
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great video very informative and i loved sitting in the driver’s seat
Glad you enjoyed it
thanks for this vid. I was given an Atto as a loaner by my workshop while my EQC was in for a service and I found the controls very confusing; particularly without my reading glasses (hey, can't wear those in traffic!). I kinda soorta managed to activate something, pushing the button left. But it intermittently kept beeping at me and I had no idea what it was about. Nor could I figure out how to see the set speed or how to adjust it. Both my Merc and my VW show the cruise control set speed clearly on the dash. So once I got home, I found this video. I'll try it again when I take the car back :-) Thanks again, very useful video.
Incidentally, it's a pretty nice car to drive. Streets ahead of the Hyundai Kona I had for a year (pardon the pun).
Always interesting hopping into a new car no matter what brand! Hope my video gave you some insights into how it runs - enjoy!
Thanks heaps Tom. Much appreciated
Any time
6:25 I find that when it disengages by it self the warning is not obvious enough, its quite sudden with very low sound. It also doesnt warn you well enough when its back on. I find it rediculous that their lane drift warning is so sensitive, yet disengaging lane keeping assist ON A BEND is rather sudden and without warning or i cant hear it nor feel it. It cant see that there is abend ahead and warn me BEFORE the actual bend? at the moment this is tesla autopilot 2014 version.
Love your videos about BYD Atto3, exactly things I’m interested in and want to learn more about :)
Pleasure! Glad you’re enjoying them
To increase or decrease the speed with 1kmh try to press and hold the switch for a bit
Thanks, I did try that but it just increases/decreases the numbers by 5kph faster 😅
Looks like Atto ACC is similar to my Leaf, which is what, 2018? Basically all behavior and complains in some comments explain one word - "LAG". Its simply takes time to everything-accelerate, brake, recognise road curvature. Its like 2014 smartphone, that's lag, plain and simple.
Btw, start stop acc from manual:
"Follow-to-stop/startFollow-start
If the vehicle stops for less than 3 minutes, the driver needs to reactivate ACC by pressing the accelerator pedal or using the ACC Cruise button."
Good tip with the ACC
I just test drove an Atto 3 today and on the motorway with not much curve it decided to just ignore the lane and let the car drift into the lane next to me. Also it kept turning itself off. Didn't have the problem with Kia on a different test drive so really disappointed as I really like the BYD
Also it doesn't work below 30mph the dealer said which is crap being stuck in traffic is the best time to use
Agreed the BYD lane centring is not the best from the various brands I’ve tested to date 🤔
Yeah except when ICC decides to cross lanes without warning at freeway speeds or swerve and nearly collide into concrete barriers. This happened to me. BYD didn't seem to care at all when I raised it with them showing them videos of this happening. BEWARE when using this feature for your and others safety.
Mine seems very sensitive to input from the steering wheel so driver input overrides the automatic steering with little effort. Did you find it pulled strongly against your input?
It turned off because you used the brake (like most adaptive CC systems). It's OK but I wouldn't bother around town.
Yes true
Thanks for going through that. What is the difference between when the cruise control symbol is Green, and when it is Grey? I know when it is not there at all, it's completely off.
Green - active and operational
Grey - standby and requires either SET or RESume to commence operation
@@LudicrousFeed thanks :)
I drove one in WA last week. Lane keep assist kept fighting me ao I turned it off. It also started drifting at one stage. The green font for the cc speed lacks contrast and size making it hard to read. It isn’t smooth enough speeding up or slowing down. I found is you held the set button down just after a speed sign change it would set the cc to the new speed but only when the sign was faster. Sign recognition worked but it would pick up signs on exit ramps and then complain you were going too fast. There is an emergency lane keep assist function that has to be deactivated each time the car is started. It activates violently if you drift across a lane without indicating. Before that it will beep incessantly if you are close to drifting. The 5kph changes took too much concentration off the road especially with the hard to read setting.
Atto 3 here : lkas was garbage, even with clear road signs. ACC was fine, not too much space between the front vehicle
Thanks! How well does the car detect speed limits? What does it do in school zones during school holidays?
Seems ok most of the time but I’ll take note of the edge cases on my next drive
It seems pretty good but doesn't change the indicated limit until you are past it. You often get a different limit shown on the navigation against the system on the dash due to the different sources.
It won't read variable speed limits displays at all in my experience.
It also seems to assume school zones are always active.
@@SeanWWalsh I suspected they were different sources, you have confirmed it thanks.
But neither will a Tesla.
The way the speed limit signage is set up is also critical, they should be at some distance before the intended speed limit not exactly on the location, I guess artificial intelligence is not up there yet with human brain 😅.
Now I just have to confirm in my head which is the one assist button so I can remember to turn it off for every journey, I got jolted the other day and it was not pleasant. In my Ford Everest the steering wheel would just vibrate a tiny bit, far kinder and less surprising.
You can turn it off in settings, otherwise it's on by default.
@@mondotv4216 Yup, I remember that bit, I just need to remember where to do it.
The "adaptive" part gets easily confused around bends, it sometimes doesn't see the car ahead and accelerates through the bend before jumping on the regen when the road straightens.
I really miss a speed limiter function in traffic as the adaptive cruise control isn't really smooth enough to use in the city in my experience.
You get that one opportunity to set the speed to the precise speed you want when you first set the cruise on, otherwise it's the 5kph increments.
Good explanation with the sharper turns when it can’t adequately judge other cars to slow down / adapt / regen brake
Turns out I was wrong about needing to reset ACC to set another specific speed if you don't want to use the +-5kph option: "If the lever (2) is pulled down while accelerating, the current speed will be reset as the target cruise speed."
I’m trying to find a way to change the CC increments to 1km/hr through OBD2 port and scanner app. Has anyone tried this?
Gotta say, I like to drive, I wonder if we will see more folk accidentally running red lights because they forgot to pay attention and brake.. I also like to drive my line in the lane, not just the centre and not wandering off the edge. I have a MYP on order but wonder how much I'll bother to use all the fancy car in charge stuff. I can see it helping on long trips and intervening in some way when people get tired and doze, that could well save lots of lives. But it seems there are some deliberately taking a nap (or under the weather) because the car can do it very well on the right roads, until the police cruise by of course. Ps thanks Tom enjoy your work.
Public safety announcement for all forms of ‘autonomous’ driving in 2023: Hands on the wheel, eyes on the road. The driver is ultimately responsible for what happens on the road
I agree, after watching that, I will stick to the simple cruise control I am used for my previous car as well, I don’t need or want anything else.
Just as the wide spread use of standard cruise control resulted in more high speed exits from the road as the driver feel asleep, I suspect misuse of lane assist will result in more than a few accidents.
can you show how to setup a Route from the Phone and transfer that to the car. and will route planing activate activ cruise control.
Next time I get another loan of the car I will - easiest way is to use Google/Apple maps via Apple CarPlay
I’ve been playing with the cruise control on my Atto 3. I feel more comfortable using it on the motorway. To much happening when you drive in the city.
Requires constant vigilance in the city
My Atto 3 cruise control switched off while driving in foggy condtions. It would only re-engage when Istpped the car and switched the car off and on again. It then did it again . I drove "manually" for a while and it eventually re-engaed after pushing the buttons a few time. Any comments?
Could be due to obstruction of the cameras due to the conditions. Did it present an error message?
Can we use ACC/ICC on a traffic jam? What is the minimum speed?
Yes it can be used in a traffic jam - check out my more recent Seal videos
- minimum set speed is 30kph but it will of course follow the leading car at slower speeds in traffic
When using the cruise control and coming to a stop do the Brake lights activate same as if braking?
Good question - I’ll have to test it
Yes.
Used my Atto Adaptive Cruise Control on highway yesterday for the 1st time. Quite disappointing compared to one in my 2014 VW Golf. it works ok but is more abrupt than I am used too. The ability not to be able to change speed in 1km is extremely annoying. I like to sit on the speed limit and true 100km speed in Atto appears to be 103kph. Let hope a firmware update can fix this!!
That’s the beauty of OTA updates, let’s hope BYD listen to their customer feedback
To set a speed apart from the 5 k steps, manually accelerate to the speed you want and hit 'set'
I hope a future update will allow one to choose the cruise control increment. I would prefer something like 2km/h increments
Seems like it would be good on the freeway, but annoying other places
Indeed
Certainly how I use my ZS EV, which is fairly similar in capability. I don’t think either is really good in city streets. They just go on and off a little to much and also there is always the traffic light issue. The other issue with Lights Tom, is someone stopping just past the light. The car will slow and pull up as normal but of course that may leave you in the intersection, so another time you need to be ready to manually intervene.
You can flick the resume lever up if stopped at the traffic lights once the vehicle in front of you starts moving if you have ACC activated.
Adjusting the speed on the ACC system only works in 5km increments.
If there is stationary traffic already stopped at the traffic lights as you approach, you must apply the brakes manually to bring the Atto 3 to a complete stop. The ACC system does not recognise stopped traffic.
Flick the lever upwards if stopped for under 3 minutes, to resume moving forward and the Atto 3 will start moving, the lines by the car icon on the screen will be brown, meaning the car in front is travelling below the speed limit that you set, but once the vehicle in front speed's up so will the Atto 3 and the lines by the car icon will go from brown to green once your Atto 3 reaches the set speed limit.
Thanks Peter 👍
Thank you for the informative video!
I heard that if the acc or Icc is active the autonomous emergency braking will be disabled , is it the case in atto3 ?
@@mrspeedracer0076 Hmm I’ll have to investigate further but having just driven on a long road trip in the Atto 3, the adaptive cruise control acted appropriately and would brake if needed whenever a leading car would slow down suddenly
ACC works on stationary cars. I use it all the time. Braking isn't smooth though.
No auto pilot?
ICC or Intelligent Cruise Control has Autosteer but it’s not as good as Tesla
That's Epping road, from Lane Cove till Beecroft road, Epping ;)
Yup!
So BYD dosen't have autopilot at the level of Tesla?
Definitely not
Thanks for the video. Wouldn't it be great if the manufacturers of new tech vehicles produced detailed training videos.
I think some of the commentors are forgetting this is an assist feature. You are still the driver, it is not autonomous driving.
I have only used the Cruise / Lane Assist on rural roads and have found it works well, just like what seems to be the default system that follows the line on the side of the road. If there are lines, it steers, slows and accelerates as required. Does not like you holding the steering wheel too lightly to test how well it is doing, and will let you know in a way that might wake you up if it was due to falling asleep.
There are often too many lines and too many unpredictable, unsafe drivers on the road in busy city driving. For city driving I just use regen set to high and drive it myself. The instant slowing when you take the foot of the accelerator, before getting to the brake certainly helps and the one time I have needed to stomp on the brakes it pulled up very quickly with hazard lights flashing away, so assume it took over stopping the car.
Main issue I have encountered with cruise is numpties deciding they only need to get a couple of metres past you before moving back into your lane on the highway, causing your vehicle to slow to keep a safe distance from them. That would happen with any brand.
In case it is not clear from other posts, if you want to set cruise at a specific speed then drive at that speed when you set it.
how you manage to get atto 3 to 470 km range ?
The range display on screen overestimates the real range by about 15%
Compared to Tesla the BYD appears to require too many button presses to get into cruise or lane keeping modes.
BYD 3: LKA, Cruise, Set
Tesla 2: Double tap right stalk
Is it possible to set 'normal' cruise control without also setting adaptive at the same time?
Looks like the lane keeping is not as good as the MG zs ev.
For some reason I must be the only viewer who can't see the button when you point to it. The camera needs to zoom in closer at that moment.
Best to have someone else to hold the camera while you're driving, but they need to be well coordinated with your words. You can also set up the camera in a fixed position behind you, and zoom in for closeups.
Ok feedback noted
Damn this system looks terrible compared to Tesla standard autopilot. It barely handles corners woudln't trust it at all.
Tesla lane centering is still the best in my opinion
To increase 1 kph i suspect it is like my car. Push up to increase by 5 kph, push up and HOLD to increase by 1 kph. Hope this helps @LudicrousFeed
Thanks, I tried that but it just increased/decreased faster by 5 😁