I love your reviews and the way you present the cars. Having the two episodes about the same car really works. That allows you to absorb all the information you could possibly need. Thank you.
As an owner of a Long Range, however informative, there is only one important test for me here and that is interior noise and it performs pretty descent one could say. This lines up with my own experience as well, sometimes I silence the music just to enjoy the quietness but not for too long because the audio is too smoking good to be left turned out! As said I own a Long Range and my gut feeling says the car is really enjoying the taste of current and likes a lot of it as well lol, I couldn't care less to be honest. Besides that I do not comply to the max speed and also like to floor it every now and then when overtaking so it is to be expected that the consumption is higher. I have never measured acceleration times, the only thing I know is that it is darn fast and that is more than enough for me. My two cents for the ZeekrX when all is said and done that you get one big hell of a bang for your buck and that it is simply lovely to drive. Again another nice review. How do you test the acceleration times is that an app you can upload to the car?
Recently considering to buy a new fully electric SUV for my little newly graduated sister here in China, tbh, there are way too many options lol, but she manage to narrow the range to three models, Zeekr 7x, Xpeng G9 and Aito M5, she told me Zeekr X is a nice car, very lively, just too compact to her.
As you say it did meet it's charge time and as a number of other reviewers say it's less about the peak charge amount vs the charge curve which if you look at it does have a linear look to it even if there are small steps when you get to the detail level. Thanks for the review.
I own a Smart #3 Brabus, which is basically the same car (even the battery is the same, they just use different capacity numbers for it, for whatever reason). With 80% SoC, my car has a range of around 225 km in the current winter weather. Meaning: Real life range is around 190 km from 10 to 80%. For ME this is sufficient, especially since I always(!) drive in Brabus mode and recuperation is set to low. My daughter, she uses the car in Comfort mode, has a range of 230 km from 10 to 80%. Real world values. Of course if you are willing to drive from 100% way down to 1%, the range is around REAL 300 km, slightly more in Eco mode. In winter time (unless you have temps under minus 5 deg C, then range drops further. Overall, in winter time, you‘ll always be able to get REAL 200 km range out of the charge, in summer 250, in Eco mode at least(!) 50 km more. In summer, if you are willing to drive in Eco mode and with highest recuperation, avoiding higher highway speeds and driving from 100% to 1%, real range should be around 350 km. At max. As to the acceleration time: I clocked my #3 Brabus using a Dragy from 0-100 kph in 3.59 s and 1/4 Mile in 11.79 s. With winter tires, at 3 deg C outside temp and slightly wet asphalt. Quite impressive. I did several runs and it alwaxys reached 0-100 kph in 3.6x seconds. Used Rocket Start (LC) only once because 0-100 time dropped(!) by 0.1 s.
Thanks for the review The charging speed is kind of deceiving to be honest. And the curve reassemble a lot to the one of my C40. I'm really looking for the 800v to be a standard among manufacturers 🙂
Yes, it feels like the manufacturers are using the charge speed low on cheaper/entry level models as an argument for pushing sakes to more expensive models.
Thank you for the comprehensive videos. Zeekr has just released 001 & now X here in Brazil. Looking forward to testing X. Questions: Are there driver profiles for seat /mirror/driver positions/preferences? Does the rear wheel drive version have cooled seats? Thanks again! Abraço do Brasil 🥂☀️
@@ClaudioAguileraMunoz I've had one "rattle" in the front passenger seat when it was fully upright but they fixed it during the first servicing. Sometimes there is something in my left B pillar that makes a small noise when I drive fast enough to get the chassis to take some load. Also I bought alcantar covers for the seat belt buckles because the front passenger one would sometimes knock on the interior trim if not put back correctly. YMMV
I would be interested to hear your thoughts as to the Zeekr’s strengths and weaknesses versa the Volvo EX30 and the Smart #1 with which it shares its underpinnings.
I have tested the EX30 and the X and between those two I would pick the X. Much better interior materials, layout and equipment. It has a instrument cluster, a head up display and a better sound system. The only thing that may be better in the EX30 is the suspension if like a more settled and firm ride.
I live in China and spoiled for EV choice 😎 Still driving a Mazda 2 but after 11 years and 140k km, my Chinese wife says it's old! 😁 Anyway, I'm still not convinced about Chinese EV brands... Many new ones every month, like smartphones! 😅 From all the reviews I've watched, I think the best choice here is the Smart #3. €21k for entry version.
Efficiency seems to be as poor as EX30. Both have 0.28 Cd, which is not great. Among the worst of any new EVs. But it seems to have a projected HUD at least. That’s better than EX30. Battery Life channel tested the new ID.3 GTX (WLTP 600km) 110km/h range and it delivered 490km. That’s so much better than EX30 and this car. Geely needs to improve their motor efficiency and their EV vendors need to improve the aero to get competitive. These small Geely cars look better than ID.3 GTX and have AWD, but the range is significantly worse. It’s not a compromise I would take. VW ID.3 got a 50km WLTP range improvement mostly with new engine. Minor aero improvements and tweaked battery (+2kW). Geely needs to do something similar. They have also a lot more headroom for aero. If they catch up with ID.3 that would be 7% less drag already.
Efficiency is weird, I get the best mileage (sub 16) when doing a trip downtown which includes 2 hours of highway and 2 hours of city driving. Driving purely in town though it is more around the 19 you had, it highly depends on the AC though, it's closer to 17 these days as the AC is off, in the winter it gets above 20 easily. However I don't really need it so I don't care too much about driving it to get the most mileage out of it.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Could be, although the navigation estimate the state of charge at destination and this was always spot on for me. This week in town I got 16.7, assuming the 208km driven is correct that checks out. I wonder if the distance error is somehow due to the 20in vs 19in tires? ... seems unlikely... Maybe a UK miles vs US miles? 😅
The issue I have with brands like Zeekr, BYD, and other ‘new’ manufacturers is their support. Having had EVs for near a decade I am a huge supporter, but not having a physical location, or an established reputation, I can’t justify the price.
But I guess that's more dependent on how the brand commits and enters the market in that specific country. Many new brands establish sales and service with known resellers. But yes, lack of that justifies a lower price to lower the risk for the consumers.
Their reputation is established but not in the old traditional way, more from a "everyone is using the same production line / standard" kind of way Gone are the days when a logo is the way to make judgement or reputation.. you should be asking and getting familiar with the name of factories and factory locations.. that's the new "brand" of the modern era Mercedes has a plant in china, iPhone batteries come from BYD and Gucci is made for $30 in china
@@honesty_-no9he I live in Sweden, I think there’s a Volvo dealer somewhere 🤔 Zeekr has 1 service location 50km away, Volvo has 9 in a 20km radius. Nio and BYD have a single showroom in a shopping mall.
Agreed. Geely motors do not seem to be very efficient, whether in Polestars, Volvos or Zeekrs. My Model Y LR is a much bigger car yet achieves around 16.5 on a country trip at 110 km/h in good weather. Given the much smaller size but boxier nature of the Zeekr I would have expected something similar.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Agreed. You will of course recall that the original ID series were not efficient, but VW, a company where technical merit is highly regarded, released an updated series of motors that changed all that. This is what Geely needs...a whole new line of motors that can be used with their otherwise great car lineup.
Top speed of electric vehicles is governed by motor RPM. With a typical 10:1 final drive the motor will be spinning at around 7000 to 8000 rpm at 100 km/h. Once you reach 15 000 RPM the internal forces on the rotor reach a point where they start to become a problem. To get around this some manufacturers use stronger internal components or even carbon fibre wraps like the Tesla Plaid motors allowing much higher RPMs. However, this costs money. In reality there are very few countries where high speeds are legal so most makers stick to cheaper components and put a hard limit on the speed.
What do you think about the result? As expected? ⚡#zeekr
Most efficient platforms beside tesla are VW MEB in general, Mercedes, Hyundai/Kia and BMW according to my tests
@shreeshsaurya4203 when I look at how the manufacturers report their numbers in UK it's either kWh/100km or kWh/62miles?
I love your reviews and the way you present the cars. Having the two episodes about the same car really works. That allows you to absorb all the information you could possibly need. Thank you.
Glad you like the concept!
As an owner of a Long Range, however informative, there is only one important test for me here and that is interior noise and it performs pretty descent one could say. This lines up with my own experience as well, sometimes I silence the music just to enjoy the quietness but not for too long because the audio is too smoking good to be left turned out!
As said I own a Long Range and my gut feeling says the car is really enjoying the taste of current and likes a lot of it as well lol, I couldn't care less to be honest. Besides that I do not comply to the max speed and also like to floor it every now and then when overtaking so it is to be expected that the consumption is higher.
I have never measured acceleration times, the only thing I know is that it is darn fast and that is more than enough for me.
My two cents for the ZeekrX when all is said and done that you get one big hell of a bang for your buck and that it is simply lovely to drive.
Again another nice review. How do you test the acceleration times is that an app you can upload to the car?
I have a device called Racebox Mini for measuring the acceleration.
what is your avg consumption in city driving and faster roads? summer / winter
Recently considering to buy a new fully electric SUV for my little newly graduated sister here in China, tbh, there are way too many options lol, but she manage to narrow the range to three models, Zeekr 7x, Xpeng G9 and Aito M5, she told me Zeekr X is a nice car, very lively, just too compact to her.
As you say it did meet it's charge time and as a number of other reviewers say it's less about the peak charge amount vs the charge curve which if you look at it does have a linear look to it even if there are small steps when you get to the detail level. Thanks for the review.
I own a Smart #3 Brabus, which is basically the same car (even the battery is the same, they just use different capacity numbers for it, for whatever reason).
With 80% SoC, my car has a range of around 225 km in the current winter weather. Meaning: Real life range is around 190 km from 10 to 80%. For ME this is sufficient, especially since I always(!) drive in Brabus mode and recuperation is set to low. My daughter, she uses the car in Comfort mode, has a range of 230 km from 10 to 80%.
Real world values.
Of course if you are willing to drive from 100% way down to 1%, the range is around REAL 300 km, slightly more in Eco mode.
In winter time (unless you have temps under minus 5 deg C, then range drops further.
Overall, in winter time, you‘ll always be able to get REAL 200 km range out of the charge, in summer 250, in Eco mode at least(!) 50 km more.
In summer, if you are willing to drive in Eco mode and with highest recuperation, avoiding higher highway speeds and driving from 100% to 1%, real range should be around 350 km. At max.
As to the acceleration time: I clocked my #3 Brabus using a Dragy from 0-100 kph in 3.59 s and 1/4 Mile in 11.79 s. With winter tires, at 3 deg C outside temp and slightly wet asphalt. Quite impressive. I did several runs and it alwaxys reached 0-100 kph in 3.6x seconds. Used Rocket Start (LC) only once because 0-100 time dropped(!) by 0.1 s.
Thanks for sharing, great info! Happy with the car?
Thanks for the review The charging speed is kind of deceiving to be honest. And the curve reassemble a lot to the one of my C40. I'm really looking for the 800v to be a standard among manufacturers 🙂
Yes, it feels like the manufacturers are using the charge speed low on cheaper/entry level models as an argument for pushing sakes to more expensive models.
Thanks for yet again a fantastic review.
Do you use a phone app for the 0-100 times? If so, which one?
It's hardware called Racebox Mini. The sop on the phone is just to act as a screen to it.
Thank you for the comprehensive videos. Zeekr has just released 001 & now X here in Brazil. Looking forward to testing X. Questions: Are there driver profiles for seat /mirror/driver positions/preferences? Does the rear wheel drive version have cooled seats? Thanks again! Abraço do Brasil 🥂☀️
Profile saves seats, mirrors etc. Don't think ventilated seats are included in the long range RWD
hello, to whomever has this premium suv... how does it compare with tesla in terms of rattling noises?
I have a tesla y and the test car I had for a week didn't have any rattles compared to my Y that suffers from several.
@@ItsOnlyElectric thanks a lot!
@@ClaudioAguileraMunoz I've had one "rattle" in the front passenger seat when it was fully upright but they fixed it during the first servicing. Sometimes there is something in my left B pillar that makes a small noise when I drive fast enough to get the chassis to take some load.
Also I bought alcantar covers for the seat belt buckles because the front passenger one would sometimes knock on the interior trim if not put back correctly.
YMMV
I have zero rattling
I would be interested to hear your thoughts as to the Zeekr’s strengths and weaknesses versa the Volvo EX30 and the Smart #1 with which it shares its underpinnings.
I have tested the EX30 and the X and between those two I would pick the X. Much better interior materials, layout and equipment. It has a instrument cluster, a head up display and a better sound system. The only thing that may be better in the EX30 is the suspension if like a more settled and firm ride.
Does this car already use Geely's Short Blade Battery which has 192 wh/kg energy density?
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No, not yet.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I see
Great video thank you! You should review the Smart #3 which is based on the same platform...
Yes, that would be interesting
I live in China and spoiled for EV choice 😎 Still driving a Mazda 2 but after 11 years and 140k km, my Chinese wife says it's old! 😁 Anyway, I'm still not convinced about Chinese EV brands... Many new ones every month, like smartphones! 😅 From all the reviews I've watched, I think the best choice here is the Smart #3. €21k for entry version.
Though choice's for you man. Buying a Chinese brand in China (I'm talking about the premium brands, a handful) would be a no brainer?
Zeeker and all other bev manufacturers should spend more time getting the weight of their vehicles down as 2 ton is one heavy thing.
bit hard since the battery weight around 30% of the car
Efficiency seems to be as poor as EX30. Both have 0.28 Cd, which is not great. Among the worst of any new EVs.
But it seems to have a projected HUD at least. That’s better than EX30.
Battery Life channel tested the new ID.3 GTX (WLTP 600km) 110km/h range and it delivered 490km. That’s so much better than EX30 and this car. Geely needs to improve their motor efficiency and their EV vendors need to improve the aero to get competitive.
These small Geely cars look better than ID.3 GTX and have AWD, but the range is significantly worse. It’s not a compromise I would take.
VW ID.3 got a 50km WLTP range improvement mostly with new engine. Minor aero improvements and tweaked battery (+2kW). Geely needs to do something similar. They have also a lot more headroom for aero. If they catch up with ID.3 that would be 7% less drag already.
VW MEB platform is amongst the most efficient so I'm not surprised. But yes, Geely need to work on the efficiency
Looks like compact Suv EV of the year for 2023/24 .. a more attractive package against its brother Volvo Ex30.
Yes, agree!
Efficiency is weird, I get the best mileage (sub 16) when doing a trip downtown which includes 2 hours of highway and 2 hours of city driving.
Driving purely in town though it is more around the 19 you had, it highly depends on the AC though, it's closer to 17 these days as the AC is off, in the winter it gets above 20 easily.
However I don't really need it so I don't care too much about driving it to get the most mileage out of it.
It actually reports lower but , the over reports distance so consumption is higher then it states.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Could be, although the navigation estimate the state of charge at destination and this was always spot on for me.
This week in town I got 16.7, assuming the 208km driven is correct that checks out.
I wonder if the distance error is somehow due to the 20in vs 19in tires? ... seems unlikely...
Maybe a UK miles vs US miles? 😅
PS that was a gallon joke, which coincidentally is 20% different.
@jwickerszh 19 vs 20 does at least 5% difference
My biggest concern is how long the reviewer was looking at the screen and not the road. Fs.
Not sure I could live with that efficiency or lack of.
I'm also a bit disappointed regarding the efficiency
The issue I have with brands like Zeekr, BYD, and other ‘new’ manufacturers is their support. Having had EVs for near a decade I am a huge supporter, but not having a physical location, or an established reputation, I can’t justify the price.
But I guess that's more dependent on how the brand commits and enters the market in that specific country. Many new brands establish sales and service with known resellers. But yes, lack of that justifies a lower price to lower the risk for the consumers.
Is there VOLVO and POLESTAR service where you live? Then there is ZEEKR! They are all GEELY as is LOTUS.
Their reputation is established but not in the old traditional way, more from a "everyone is using the same production line / standard" kind of way
Gone are the days when a logo is the way to make judgement or reputation.. you should be asking and getting familiar with the name of factories and factory locations.. that's the new "brand" of the modern era
Mercedes has a plant in china, iPhone batteries come from BYD and Gucci is made for $30 in china
@@honesty_-no9he I live in Sweden, I think there’s a Volvo dealer somewhere 🤔 Zeekr has 1 service location 50km away, Volvo has 9 in a 20km radius. Nio and BYD have a single showroom in a shopping mall.
@alfredgreybeard BYD sold and maintained by Hedin. Xpeng by Bilia, Nio serviced by Mechanum.
19kW/h is too much. Best EV consum. is around 12kWh
Yes, 12 is not realistic for decent sized cars. But 15-16 is good.
Agreed. Geely motors do not seem to be very efficient, whether in Polestars, Volvos or Zeekrs. My Model Y LR is a much bigger car yet achieves around 16.5 on a country trip at 110 km/h in good weather. Given the much smaller size but boxier nature of the Zeekr I would have expected something similar.
@Petlaw99 Tesla is still hard to beat when it comes to efficiency..MEB cars come close
@@ItsOnlyElectric Agreed. You will of course recall that the original ID series were not efficient, but VW, a company where technical merit is highly regarded, released an updated series of motors that changed all that. This is what Geely needs...a whole new line of motors that can be used with their otherwise great car lineup.
@Petlaw99 agree 👍
The top speed is ridiculous for the amount of power the car has. Also is it possible to add more POV with your reviews?
To be a bit more specific..POV as in camera angles, or my personal opinions about the car?
Top speed of electric vehicles is governed by motor RPM. With a typical 10:1 final drive the motor will be spinning at around 7000 to 8000 rpm at 100 km/h. Once you reach 15 000 RPM the internal forces on the rotor reach a point where they start to become a problem. To get around this some manufacturers use stronger internal components or even carbon fibre wraps like the Tesla Plaid motors allowing much higher RPMs. However, this costs money. In reality there are very few countries where high speeds are legal so most makers stick to cheaper components and put a hard limit on the speed.