Gaudio scored via sweeps and takedowns, with no sub attempts as well as no dominant positions or guard passes. Keenan took his back, had multiple submission attempts, swept into dominant positions, close to the transition to the mount from the back escape Gaudio had as well, and he is voted the loser in a decision? that makes no sense. If someone could explain to me why Gaudio won, I would appreciate it, maybe there is a rule about how to make decisions that I don't know about.
Ye ibbjf judges are trash. Keenan: Back take, close to Mount transition, dominant sweeps, dominant positions, almost always the aggressor and gaudio wins? That was bs advantage as that was a zero threat sub at the end plus no reward to keenan for coming up (not that I would normally say anything should be awarded for that but if ur gonna give gaudio that advantage....). Overall just shit refs.
I wonder how these kinds of events fuel Keenan's desire to distinguish himself as American JJ. This was a clear robbery in the way of the Brazilian by Brazilian judges in a Brazilian league and Brazilian sport. If I'm him I'd be equally as fired up about taking ownership of his talents out of self-respect and dignity.
Tyler Goodrich Its not about controlling something or not. The no gi Jiu jitsu has a preference in America because you guys traditionally practice some fighting sports without a gi on. Here in Brazil almost everybody practice gi bjj and the others practice both, by tradition as well.
@@Pedro173401 Thats a very fair point however if you look at things objectively the UFC was founded with a lot of participation by Brazilians and has had numerous Brazilian champions (GOAT Anderson Silva). Can't say either about IBJJF. I do think that there is A LOT of politics behind the IBJJF scene and I'm not saying always, but sometimes I seems like it appears during referee's decisions.
@@franciscojunior3898 and that submission position is what levelled the advantages. Look at the amount of back control and submission attempts keenan had the whole match, i do not understand how the judges can give such a convenient advantage at the end of the match to rule it in favour of gaudio when he never once did threaten an actual submission
It's all about IBJJF Rules, if you sweep and you opponent falls with a submission position he gets an advantage for attempting. Just carefully see the whole match again and you will understand.
@@franciscojunior3898 yeah I understand the rules My issue is more about why they ended up ruling the match in favour of gaudio as opposed to Keenan given that Keenan's submission attempt was more legitimate and packed more urgency than that lazy footlock thrown in at the end. Like yeah ok, the advantage makes sense, but to win the match cause of that advantage that was given on a lazy submission attempt just doesn't sit right with me (maybe he won cause of another reason, idk. But looking at the match, you definitely have to give it to Keenan)
Well man.....most of the matche's decisions are about the way an athlete fights, so Keenan has that calm and strategic way to fight, Gaudio on the other hand is more explosive, thus it affects on the referees decision you see. Like they would have to see who gave more of a fight.
This match set back gi jiu jitsu. Keenan was the lead innovator of gi jiu jitsu and when they robbed him of this, Keenan threw in the towel. If the Brazilians would've embraced Keenan and his innovative techniques, gi jiu jitsu would be way more popular today than nogi jiu jitsu is. Now we're reverting to Marcelo Garcia's Butterfly Guard which was popularized in the early 2000's and is 20 years old.
When there's a tie in advantages at the end like this due to questionable judging it should go to won the majority of theirs first. Average the times of when they were earned and whoever got theirs closest to the beginning of the match wins. This would encourage more aggressive play early on as well as force competitors to go more desperately for points at the end.
that's no adv. at the end. period. but this could have been avoided if KC would not have been so sloppy while getting his back with a minute left. he could of rode out the victory imo.
As competitors, at least I assume most of are watching this, never never leave it to the judges. And the said truth is that; it'll more than likely be on the brasilian side of the house.
I'm not sure if IBJJF has a judging fine for judges who are clearly not judging fairly. This is aboslute trash, the two judges should be fired and fined because this is fucked up. Keenan definitely deserves the win here.
That advantage was total garbage and so was that call. Keenan took his back. IBJJF refs man.
Took his back and couldn't apply anything, then Gaudio escaped. Incompetent. Should be 3x0 to Gaudio.
@@lightenlynx yeah let's reward people for escaping a bad position despite the fact it would make bjj even more boring then it is now...
Keenan should have won that match. That's ridiculous.
Gaudio scored via sweeps and takedowns, with no sub attempts as well as no dominant positions or guard passes. Keenan took his back, had multiple submission attempts, swept into dominant positions, close to the transition to the mount from the back escape Gaudio had as well, and he is voted the loser in a decision? that makes no sense.
If someone could explain to me why Gaudio won, I would appreciate it, maybe there is a rule about how to make decisions that I don't know about.
TK Studio why Gaudio won?? He is brazilian!!
It was a very bad call. The tie wasn't though, gaudio deserved that one.
he's american
Ye ibbjf judges are trash. Keenan: Back take, close to Mount transition, dominant sweeps, dominant positions, almost always the aggressor and gaudio wins?
That was bs advantage as that was a zero threat sub at the end plus no reward to keenan for coming up (not that I would normally say anything should be awarded for that but if ur gonna give gaudio that advantage....). Overall just shit refs.
I wonder how these kinds of events fuel Keenan's desire to distinguish himself as American JJ. This was a clear robbery in the way of the Brazilian by Brazilian judges in a Brazilian league and Brazilian sport. If I'm him I'd be equally as fired up about taking ownership of his talents out of self-respect and dignity.
interesing take, hadnt thought of that
That's why no-gi is taking off because the Brazilians don't control it.
That's exactly how brazilians feel in the UFC.
Tyler Goodrich Its not about controlling something or not. The no gi Jiu jitsu has a preference in America because you guys traditionally practice some fighting sports without a gi on. Here in Brazil almost everybody practice gi bjj and the others practice both, by tradition as well.
@@Pedro173401 Thats a very fair point however if you look at things objectively the UFC was founded with a lot of participation by Brazilians and has had numerous Brazilian champions (GOAT Anderson Silva). Can't say either about IBJJF. I do think that there is A LOT of politics behind the IBJJF scene and I'm not saying always, but sometimes I seems like it appears during referee's decisions.
how convenient to give that advantage right at the end but not a sweep for keenan
Keenan couldn't the 2 points because Gaudio had a submission position
@@franciscojunior3898 and that submission position is what levelled the advantages.
Look at the amount of back control and submission attempts keenan had the whole match, i do not understand how the judges can give such a convenient advantage at the end of the match to rule it in favour of gaudio when he never once did threaten an actual submission
It's all about IBJJF Rules, if you sweep and you opponent falls with a submission position he gets an advantage for attempting. Just carefully see the whole match again and you will understand.
@@franciscojunior3898 yeah I understand the rules
My issue is more about why they ended up ruling the match in favour of gaudio as opposed to Keenan given that Keenan's submission attempt was more legitimate and packed more urgency than that lazy footlock thrown in at the end.
Like yeah ok, the advantage makes sense, but to win the match cause of that advantage that was given on a lazy submission attempt just doesn't sit right with me (maybe he won cause of another reason, idk. But looking at the match, you definitely have to give it to Keenan)
Well man.....most of the matche's decisions are about the way an athlete fights, so Keenan has that calm and strategic way to fight, Gaudio on the other hand is more explosive, thus it affects on the referees decision you see. Like they would have to see who gave more of a fight.
I thought it should've gone to Keenan. Good match.
Wow first thing I see is this fucking comment what a spoiler lol
Shakes his finger at the IBJJF mat at the end 😎
He should have flipped it off instead!!! Even between the gracies they don’t agree on IBJJF rules.
this was definitely keenan's win!
Maybe Gaudio won officially, but everyone knows who really won...
The match that proves what everyone knew already. IBJJF refs are biased and suck.
holy cow ive never seen such a robbery in my life
This match set back gi jiu jitsu. Keenan was the lead innovator of gi jiu jitsu and when they robbed him of this, Keenan threw in the towel. If the Brazilians would've embraced Keenan and his innovative techniques, gi jiu jitsu would be way more popular today than nogi jiu jitsu is. Now we're reverting to Marcelo Garcia's Butterfly Guard which was popularized in the early 2000's and is 20 years old.
At 4:39 the Match stops with Keenan on bottom. Why does the ref stand him back up and restart standing?
Giuliano Spera They didn't have a grip when the match was stop.
When there's a tie in advantages at the end like this due to questionable judging it should go to won the majority of theirs first. Average the times of when they were earned and whoever got theirs closest to the beginning of the match wins. This would encourage more aggressive play early on as well as force competitors to go more desperately for points at the end.
why was clock at 6:17 for so long
Makes me so mad
Patrick sempre proporcionando lutas empolgantes.
Mas essa ai ele não ganhou :( pelo nenos na minha opinião
@@tiagosantos974 foi duvidoso!
Não sou nem um pouco fã do Kenan mas o certo é o certo e essa ele ganhou.
Man this was a robbery hahahaha
Keenan puts the pace, attacks, takes the back and escapes the sub attempt
Gaudio: “UuuUhr DuUuRh I aM a LiOnnN 🤪🤪”
2:20
i hate this bc if keenan had won that he would have won the champ imo
Never ever buddy.. keenan will win this every time i watch it🤌🏼🤌🏼
Esse keenan é muito tecnico , Aparenta nem fazer força , Alem de ser também muito flexivel
Why do they have to fix their gi? It's a fight!
Biggest robbery there has ever been at the Ibjjf worlds adult black belt.
that's no adv. at the end. period. but this could have been avoided if KC would not have been so sloppy while getting his back with a minute left. he could of rode out the victory imo.
Couldn't resist temptation temptation to be first to comment(
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I hear all yall in the comments but keenan kai looked tired. I think he won too but coulda got the finish with improved cardio
ROBBED!
The judging and giving of that advantage at the end is fucking shocking!
Luta boa sem amarração oss
Ibjjf always favouring brazileiros, for me Keenan won and almost submit Gaudio taking the back in the end.
Shame what a robery
As competitors, at least I assume most of are watching this, never never leave it to the judges. And the said truth is that; it'll more than likely be on the brasilian side of the house.
Guerra!
I'm not sure if IBJJF has a judging fine for judges who are clearly not judging fairly. This is aboslute trash, the two judges should be fired and fined because this is fucked up. Keenan definitely deserves the win here.
DON'T DISLIKE THE VIDEO IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE MATCH 😑
Hometown cooking
Absolute bullsh1t, that is corruption
Modified score
Cornelius 3
Gaudio 0
Clear robbery, Keenan took his back, that’s as offensive as you can get, gaudio has terribly boring jiu jitsu on the other hand
If only Keenan did roids
If only Keenan was Brazilian
Hahah
Julian Awad that also
A luta mais roubada do século
Of course IBJJF gives the Brazilian a win. So fucking biased
The refs decision was total BS!!
What a complete ripoff. Why does Keenan bother doing this shit. Cheaters.
brasil porra
shame on you ibjjf
worst decision ever
This is sooo bad decision...
Complete crap decision
what a total joke this ibjjf rules are complete trash
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i hate ibjjf. horrible for the sport
Keenan crybaby
Thiago Rodrigues he won papo, they forgot to add the one point Brazilian advantage
@@diegonovoa4951 now I understand