The day after I did this meditation I felt absolutely present. My colleagues even reacted differently to me & seemed to feel the shift too, wanting to interact on a deeper level rather than superficial work-talk. Talk about powerful. Thank you so much.
b co What a wonderful experience and thank you so much for your comment. What you say is so true about using Focusing. A colleague did research to show how using Focusing beforehand improved performance at job interviews!
I wasn’t able to cry about the death of my aging father because we had a conflicting realationship. And a month after settling his estate I been feeling sluggish moving forward even though I was in a good place to do so. Yesterday, someone flaked out on me and I felt abandoned. With this meditation, I was able to experience my sadness, have tears come out of my eyes, and had a memory of my father picking me up from the airport, when I visited them. I feel now loved and supported, and feel more motivated. Thank you!!
Sorry, only saw this comment now. So glad this worked for you and allowed you to find your grief for your father in a positive way, and the power of a memory. It is so important to allow our tears of grieving, because right in there we also find our tears of joyful memory. Grieving is an alchemical process, bringing gold out of pain.
Beautiful sunday greetings, thank you for your work. Humor is what we need more in live. That is the essence from my focusing this morning. Have a day full of humor. Lydia
This was such a unique experience! Trusting your body’s intuition as the subconscious mind has all the answers when you spend the time to actively listen to the energy in your body Thank you
Just amazing. It opened doors in me. I could actually understand the vaguest things, it was so new to me. This made me cry actually, because it made me realise I need to stop being cruel to myself and not listen to the nasty stories I make up in my head about myself. Thank you so much. ❤
So glad. What a wonderful effect. I always find it so releasing when I can cry for myself in a loving and tender way, and have compassion for myself. We are all trying to do the best we can all the time. No time for criticism or blame.! You can look for Focusing teachers or Focusing activity near you geographically in the listing of teachers and events at the official Focusing Institute site, www.focusing.org
Thanks Kathy, just got some bad news about a neighbor & friend’s sudden hospitalivation, w/ a challenging prognosis. Following these clear & simple steps, was able to get to a better place, that holds both her & me, and a healthy not knowing what her Highest Good may now be for her…That feels more spacious & true. Gratitude!
So glad that this was so immediately helpful to you and also to your friend by extension, and that you had the wisdom to turn to focusing in that moment of need.
Thank you so very much for your time, gentleness and generosity. I will make this a precious daily practice. I feel an inner calm and deep acceptance. I feel listened to and heard. I can not thank you enough.
vratya de León What a wonderful comment. I could not wish for more. If you want some continuing help and reminder to make this a daily practice, make sure you sign up for my e-news letter. Go to www.cefocusing.com and look for the “E newsletter subscribe” in the right-hand margin of the homepage. It is free
Dear Dr. Kathy, thank you for your generosity in sharing, incredibly clear instructions - I think to be able to simplify is a sign of mastery. All the best
Of all your videos I've listened to, all have been much appreciated, and the complete session of "How am I today?" is my absolute favorite. I've listened to this one most frequently. Thank you so much for helping me return to a regular focusing practice 🌞
So glad and thanks for the feedback. It is so great, and unusual, to ask our "body" (actually "bodily-felt sense") and open-ended question and wait, a minute or more, to see what comes inside. A minute is a long time for silence in our world!
So glad. That is great to hear. And there are 20 other videos on the channel. If you start with the earliest one and work your way up, it's kind of a mini course, but it sounds like this one works perfectly for you. I hear that there have been some ads added by TH-cam and I'm gonna try to figure out how to get them out of the middle of the meditations but maybe you have TH-cam premium like I do and don't have to deal with those Interruptions.
James Read-Tannock So glad to get your feedback. I recommend that you go to my website and sign up in the right hand margin for the E newsletter free Ecourse which will start again in September. I integrate all of the videos into the text discussion, and you would get support for practicing three times a week for nine months! www.cefocusing.com
LOL. So glad this worked for you and yes signing up for the E-Course is a great next step! Eventually it will take you through all the videos on this channel but, you can also start at the bottom, the first video and work your way up.
What a great comment to brighten my day. If you start with my earliest video and work through the 21, you will get a complete course on applying this Focusing exercise to many aspects of living as well as learning empathic listening.
Your voice is so calming and relaxing, it speaks directly to the soul. I was in a kind of a trance state, but have been interrupted. I will do that again, once I am in a safe space. Glad to have found you and your clear, wise presence 🙏
I could not get a better reply. Please come back to any of these videos as often as you can and certainly from a safe place. If you start with the earliest of the 21 main videos and work your way up, you'll get a mini Course on Focusing and Listening in a good stepwise order. And you can find all kinds of free resources in the free store at www.cefocusing.com
I am so sorry about those ads in the middle. I do not make any money on them, I did not request them, TH-cam has a new policy where they can just stick them in wherever they want!
Jaybyrd 2.0 5 STARS I have done this before but I never had an outcome like this! Usually, I'd fall asleep because I"d do it at bed time. But the last questions especially, "what would it look like if it was OK?" allowed me to break through my godawful procrastination.
Always great to hear when something has been useful to someone. You can sign up for my Ecorse which is free at www.cefocusing.com. It comes as e-newsletters with links to the 21 videos that pretty much make up my TH-cam channel and my course. Or one can simply start with my earliest video and work your way up through them to do the course at your own speed. But just happy this was helpful for you today
Hi there. You can go to my website at www.cefocusing.com and go to the free store, and then click on articles and scan through them, and find some of them that have titles that include "tears." And "Jungian." You'll find some there. The major one on the more feminine side of Focusing as relational rather than Focusing Alone is in the first volume of the compendium of articles, on focusing by many people called "senses of Focusing." By Eurasia press. It is on Amazon and if you purchase both volumes together, you save on shipping, but it is pricey. Look through the titles of these TH-cam videos and find one on passive listening and one on active listening where Edwin Rutsch and I take turns on that topic. In general, I feel like I have spent my career standing up for the feminine side of Focusing, while Gendlin went more into the philosophical and "thinking at the edge" aspect. In general, I am in line with the Young and definitions of the feminine as more right brain, intuitive, making decisions based upon a moral valuing, a felt sense of right and wrong , and masculine more left brain logical, making decisions based upon ethical rules... but more importantly, I see the feminine as circle, oriented, egalitarian, collaborative, cooperative, versus a more masculine tendency to hierarchy, and sorting out the pecking order competitive. That's all I can think to say in this small space. Thank you for your interest.
@@DrKathyMcGuire hello Dr. Kathy, i am happy to hear from you. Hopefully you are good. Thank you for your time and shared knowledge. I am intrigued. I saw in your website that your main interest is in balancing the right ans and left brain hemispheres and that's why I asked my question. Excuse me, is focusing as you demonstrated in this beautiful exercise is the same as how one connects with their soul?
@@AKHZ you certainly could think of it as your soul, if you think of your soul as the center of you, the most open and honest and authentic part of you. Gendlin tried to stay away from spiritual terms, because he wanted to show that Focusing could apply to anything, including a business decision or an interpersonal conflict…. but there are others, like Jesuit fathers, Pete Campbell, and Ed McMahon, who created Biospiritual Focusing, who added a more spiritual dimension. www. biospiritual.org , I think
My pleasure. You will find a lot more videos On this channel, in fact if you start with the earliest one and work through all 20 you'll get a complete Course in Gendlin's Focusing and also Rogers Empathic listening. And you can find the same E-Course but with a lot of additional text and examples as well as manuals and much more in the totally Free Store at www.cefocusing.com
@@VS04 I am so sorry those ads are there and I have no control over them. TH-cam changed its policy so they can put ads anywhere they want. I would have to become a formal TH-cam partner and getting paid for ads, but I'll never have enough new videos to qualify for that because I'm almost 80 years old and retired. If I did qualify for that I would be able possibly to move them to the beginning or the end but right now and unfortunately forever I guess, I have no power to change anything and I am not making a single penny off of them. It is horrible to have your experience and my work interrupted in this way. Only thing to do is if you decide the 21 videos as a course are worth it, you could get TH-cam premium for a couple of months and you wouldn't have any ads. Less than $20 a month...
No, I did not choose to have these ads and I'm not making any money on them. TH-cam changed their policy and now they can pop ads anywhere they want. And yes, they are very jarring. I guess they want you to buy TH-cam premium where you don't have any ads. It is about the cost of an old-fashioned CD a month and I do listen to endless classical music on it without any ads. And besides, I can look up many how-tos! I would have to become a major player with thousands of views a month and posting all kinds of new videos and I'm 78 years old and not gonna manage that! Even then, I only might be able to get the ad pushed to the beginning or the end. I am so sorry for the jarring intrusion and wish I could control it
Well, I'm going to take this as a positive response and that something worthwhile happened for you doing this exercise. I hope I am correctly interpreting. Not sure you're saying that my exercise is a masterpiece or that you discovered in your own use of it that something you had done was not a mistake but a masterpiece… Or something else! I do know that, if we spend time inside with whatever seems stuck or waiting to be articulated, unfolding happens in unpredictable but growth- forward ways. Lots of more information and articles and manuals to download at www.cefocusing.com
Yes, this is so irritating to me. I am not making any money off of these ads and TH-cam changed its policies (I think last November) so they can just put ads in it anywhere they want. Only defense I guess which is probably what they want is to purchase TH-cam premium and then you don't have any ads…
I am very upset about those ads. I did not put them in and I'm not making any revenue from them. And I cannot get them removed. TH-cam changed its policy I think in November 2023 so they can add ads anywhere they want. I'm 78 years old and technology is not my strength but I thought I could become a TH-cam creator and then decide that the ads would at least be at the end but no, I'll never qualify for that. You have to have lots of subscribers, etc., etc., so I'm very sad about these ads in the middle of meditations. If you are getting a lot of value and are watching a lot of my 21 TH-cams on this topic, it might be worth it to subscribe to TH-cam premium for around $15 a month for a couple months so you can treat it like you are taking a class or a workshop or something that would be worth paying for . sorry! Sorry! Not in my control
Yes, TH-cam has added those even though I am not a monetizing partner and don't get any money off of them. They changed their policy and they just add them. The only thing I could do about it is become a monetizing partner and then maybe I can request that they put the ads at the beginning instead of in the middle… But I'm 77 years old and retired and I just moved and I don't think I'm gonna get to that what I have done in my own personal life is bought into TH-cam premium so that I don't get ads in the middle of my classical music! I figure it costs about the equivalent of buying one cd per month back in the olden days!
There are lots of different teachers teaching this inner awareness in different ways so… Certainly try this again but if you want to see more approaches you can go to www.focusing.org or simply start looking into mindfulness awareness which can be as simple as Heart math, deep breathing. etc.
Really not ok. Relaxation was too fast, the guidance was at moments confusing. I am sorry I have to say it but this is not the way. I was very disappointed.
The free Ecourse which used to come as emails is now in a new format. It is in three parts as PDF files available in the free store at my website for Creative Edge Focusing (TM), www.cefocusing.com. You won't get reminders in your email inbox, but you can work at your own speed. I recommend that you put together the small group that will become your practice group and use each other to stay on track and keep moving through
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The day after I did this meditation I felt absolutely present. My colleagues even reacted differently to me & seemed to feel the shift too, wanting to interact on a deeper level rather than superficial work-talk. Talk about powerful. Thank you so much.
b co What a wonderful experience and thank you so much for your comment. What you say is so true about using Focusing. A colleague did research to show how using Focusing beforehand improved performance at job interviews!
Thank you for sharing. Really adorable the kindness you put into this small video🙏🏼
What a sweet, sweet comment. Thank you so much for seeing me.
I wasn’t able to cry about the death of my aging father because we had a conflicting realationship. And a month after settling his estate I been feeling sluggish moving forward even though I was in a good place to do so.
Yesterday, someone flaked out on me and I felt abandoned. With this meditation, I was able to experience my sadness, have tears come out of my eyes, and had a memory of my father picking me up from the airport, when I visited them. I feel now loved and supported, and feel more motivated.
Thank you!!
Sorry, only saw this comment now. So glad this worked for you and allowed you to find your grief for your father in a positive way, and the power of a memory. It is so important to allow our tears of grieving, because right in there we also find our tears of joyful memory. Grieving is an alchemical process, bringing gold out of pain.
Thank you Kathy, I practise every day, cleaning deeper levels of counciousness. So worthy this work is.
So happy to hear this Lydia. Makes my heart sing.
Always comfortable, cleaning inner space, so very worthy, thank you Kathy
So glad this was comfortable for you. And that you delight in spending that time inside.
Beautiful sunday greetings, thank you for your work. Humor is what we need more in live. That is the essence from my focusing this morning. Have a day full of humor. Lydia
Glad you found humor. Probably not my strongest suit so thanks for the reminder.
This was such a unique experience! Trusting your body’s intuition as the subconscious mind has all the answers when you spend the time to actively listen to the energy in your body
Thank you
Yes, you seem to have understood the process well. Thanks for the feedback
Just amazing. It opened doors in me. I could actually understand the vaguest things, it was so new to me. This made me cry actually, because it made me realise I need to stop being cruel to myself and not listen to the nasty stories I make up in my head about myself. Thank you so much. ❤
So glad. What a wonderful effect. I always find it so releasing when I can cry for myself in a loving and tender way, and have compassion for myself. We are all trying to do the best we can all the time. No time for criticism or blame.! You can look for Focusing teachers or Focusing activity near you geographically in the listing of teachers and events at the official Focusing Institute site, www.focusing.org
@@DrKathyMcGuire Thank you so much for your kindness and generosity! :)
Thanks Kathy, just got some bad news about a neighbor & friend’s sudden hospitalivation, w/ a challenging prognosis.
Following these clear & simple steps, was able to get to a better place, that holds both her & me, and a healthy not knowing what her Highest Good may now be for her…That feels more spacious & true. Gratitude!
So glad that this was so immediately helpful to you and also to your friend by extension, and that you had the wisdom to turn to focusing in that moment of need.
Thank you so very much for your time, gentleness and generosity. I will make this a precious daily practice. I feel an inner calm and deep acceptance. I feel listened to and heard. I can not thank you enough.
vratya de León What a wonderful comment. I could not wish for more. If you want some continuing help and reminder to make this a daily practice, make sure you sign up for my e-news letter. Go to www.cefocusing.com and look for the “E newsletter subscribe” in the right-hand margin of the homepage. It is free
Dear Dr. Kathy, thank you for your generosity in sharing, incredibly clear instructions - I think to be able to simplify is a sign of mastery. All the best
TheNormallyOpen Thank you so much. It is always great to get feedback that is very specific and real.
Of all your videos I've listened to, all have been much appreciated, and the complete session of "How am I today?" is my absolute favorite. I've listened to this one most frequently. Thank you so much for helping me return to a regular focusing practice 🌞
So glad and thanks for the feedback. It is so great, and unusual, to ask our "body" (actually "bodily-felt sense") and open-ended question and wait, a minute or more, to see what comes inside. A minute is a long time for silence in our world!
Thank you so much. This is just what I was looking for today after returning to focusing after some time away.
So glad that this helped you on your way back to that inner space
Thank you, I practice your session a few times a week. So wonderful.
So glad. That is great to hear. And there are 20 other videos on the channel. If you start with the earliest one and work your way up, it's kind of a mini course, but it sounds like this one works perfectly for you. I hear that there have been some ads added by TH-cam and I'm gonna try to figure out how to get them out of the middle of the meditations but maybe you have TH-cam premium like I do and don't have to deal with those Interruptions.
Your voice. Wow. It's a healing sound.
Thank you. I'm glad this is working for you.
Thank you. This is beautifully facilitated. Just what I was looking for
Anna Delaney So glad for this feedback. Always wonderful to hear that this can be helpful.
Thanks Kathy for this introduction. I've read about the process of focusing but being guided through it was very useful.
James Read-Tannock So glad to get your feedback. I recommend that you go to my website and sign up in the right hand margin for the E newsletter free Ecourse which will start again in September. I integrate all of the videos into the text discussion, and you would get support for practicing three times a week for nine months! www.cefocusing.com
Thank you for this wonderful session. The small step that came to me at the end of it was to do more focussing, so I have signed up for the e course!
LOL. So glad this worked for you and yes signing up for the E-Course is a great next step! Eventually it will take you through all the videos on this channel but, you can also start at the bottom, the first video and work your way up.
Incredible! Impeccable facilitation. I truly felt a shift. Thank you for your help🙏
What a great comment to brighten my day. If you start with my earliest video and work through the 21, you will get a complete course on applying this Focusing exercise to many aspects of living as well as learning empathic listening.
@@DrKathyMcGuire you have an incredible knack in guidance. Thank you🙏
Your voice is so calming and relaxing, it speaks directly to the soul. I was in a kind of a trance state, but have been interrupted. I will do that again, once I am in a safe space. Glad to have found you and your clear, wise presence 🙏
I could not get a better reply. Please come back to any of these videos as often as you can and certainly from a safe place. If you start with the earliest of the 21 main videos and work your way up, you'll get a mini Course on Focusing and Listening in a good stepwise order. And you can find all kinds of free resources in the free store at www.cefocusing.com
@@DrKathyMcGuire Thank you very much. I will look into it 🙏😘
Thank you 💜
My pleasure. Glad to be helpful.
I love her soft Chicago accent
Ahhhhh!
I didn’t appreciate the advertisement in the middle of the video but apart from that I am thankful for this exercise!
I am so sorry about those ads in the middle. I do not make any money on them, I did not request them, TH-cam has a new policy where they can just stick them in wherever they want!
Very helpful. Thank you:)
Jaybyrd 2.0
5 STARS
I have done this before but I never had an outcome like this! Usually, I'd fall asleep because I"d do it at bed time. But the last questions especially, "what would it look like if it was OK?" allowed me to break through my godawful procrastination.
Thank you! Great!
Always great to hear when something has been useful to someone. You can sign up for my Ecorse which is free at www.cefocusing.com. It comes as e-newsletters with links to the 21 videos that pretty much make up my TH-cam channel and my course. Or one can simply start with my earliest video and work your way up through them to do the course at your own speed. But just happy this was helpful for you today
Thank you!!
Valerie Webster ❤️🙏
I am curious to see your material on masculine and feminine energies. Love and peace ❤
Hi there. You can go to my website at www.cefocusing.com and go to the free store, and then click on articles and scan through them, and find some of them that have titles that include "tears." And "Jungian." You'll find some there. The major one on the more feminine side of Focusing as relational rather than Focusing Alone is in the first volume of the compendium of articles, on focusing by many people called "senses of Focusing." By Eurasia press. It is on Amazon and if you purchase both volumes together, you save on shipping, but it is pricey.
Look through the titles of these TH-cam videos and find one on passive listening and one on active listening where Edwin Rutsch and I take turns on that topic.
In general, I feel like I have spent my career standing up for the feminine side of Focusing, while Gendlin went more into the philosophical and "thinking at the edge" aspect.
In general, I am in line with the Young and definitions of the feminine as more right brain, intuitive, making decisions based upon a moral valuing, a felt sense of right and wrong , and masculine more left brain logical, making decisions based upon ethical rules... but more importantly, I see the feminine as circle, oriented, egalitarian, collaborative, cooperative, versus a more masculine tendency to hierarchy, and sorting out the pecking order competitive.
That's all I can think to say in this small space. Thank you for your interest.
@@DrKathyMcGuire hello Dr. Kathy, i am happy to hear from you. Hopefully you are good. Thank you for your time and shared knowledge. I am intrigued. I saw in your website that your main interest is in balancing the right ans and left brain hemispheres and that's why I asked my question.
Excuse me, is focusing as you demonstrated in this beautiful exercise is the same as how one connects with their soul?
@@AKHZ you certainly could think of it as your soul, if you think of your soul as the center of you, the most open and honest and authentic part of you. Gendlin tried to stay away from spiritual terms, because he wanted to show that Focusing could apply to anything, including a business decision or an interpersonal conflict…. but there are others, like Jesuit fathers, Pete Campbell, and Ed McMahon, who created Biospiritual Focusing, who added a more spiritual dimension. www. biospiritual.org , I think
4:52 beginning of practice
Thank you. That is helpful to people. I wish I could get TH-cam to remove the ads. I'm not doing it to make money. I didn't even do it!
Thank You for Sharing Dr. McGuire. Really appreciate the activity. Clarity
Brigitte Weber
thanks
My pleasure. You will find a lot more videos On this channel, in fact if you start with the earliest one and work through all 20 you'll get a complete Course in Gendlin's Focusing and also Rogers Empathic listening. And you can find the same E-Course but with a lot of additional text and examples as well as manuals and much more in the totally Free Store at www.cefocusing.com
Please change the ad popping up in the middle of this video to the beginning or the end. Thank you.
@@VS04 I am so sorry those ads are there and I have no control over them. TH-cam changed its policy so they can put ads anywhere they want. I would have to become a formal TH-cam partner and getting paid for ads, but I'll never have enough new videos to qualify for that because I'm almost 80 years old and retired. If I did qualify for that I would be able possibly to move them to the beginning or the end but right now and unfortunately forever I guess, I have no power to change anything and I am not making a single penny off of them. It is horrible to have your experience and my work interrupted in this way.
Only thing to do is if you decide the 21 videos as a course are worth it, you could get TH-cam premium for a couple of months and you wouldn't have any ads. Less than $20 a month...
Feels like christmas in. July 🎉
So glad this was helpful to you. There are lots of other similar videos on this channel. And I do love Christmas all year around.
You must be psychic thankyou
❤😊
Any chance the ada could be removed? They’re quite jarring when they come on.
No, I did not choose to have these ads and I'm not making any money on them. TH-cam changed their policy and now they can pop ads anywhere they want. And yes, they are very jarring. I guess they want you to buy TH-cam premium where you don't have any ads. It is about the cost of an old-fashioned CD a month and I do listen to endless classical music on it without any ads. And besides, I can look up many how-tos! I would have to become a major player with thousands of views a month and posting all kinds of new videos and I'm 78 years old and not gonna manage that! Even then, I only might be able to get the ad pushed to the beginning or the end. I am so sorry for the jarring intrusion and wish I could control it
It's not a mistake, it's a masterpiece.
Well, I'm going to take this as a positive response and that something worthwhile happened for you doing this exercise. I hope I am correctly interpreting. Not sure you're saying that my exercise is a masterpiece or that you discovered in your own use of it that something you had done was not a mistake but a masterpiece… Or something else! I do know that, if we spend time inside with whatever seems stuck or waiting to be articulated, unfolding happens in unpredictable but growth- forward ways. Lots of more information and articles and manuals to download at www.cefocusing.com
You have an ad in the middle of the practice
Yes, this is so irritating to me. I am not making any money off of these ads and TH-cam changed its policies (I think last November) so they can just put ads in it anywhere they want. Only defense I guess which is probably what they want is to purchase TH-cam premium and then you don't have any ads…
There’s an ad smack in the middle of this video
I am very upset about those ads. I did not put them in and I'm not making any revenue from them. And I cannot get them removed.
TH-cam changed its policy I think in November 2023 so they can add ads anywhere they want.
I'm 78 years old and technology is not my strength but I thought I could become a TH-cam creator and then decide that the ads would at least be at the end but no, I'll never qualify for that. You have to have lots of subscribers, etc., etc., so I'm very sad about these ads in the middle of meditations.
If you are getting a lot of value and are watching a lot of my 21 TH-cams on this topic, it might be worth it to subscribe to TH-cam premium for around $15 a month for a couple months so you can treat it like you are taking a class or a workshop or something that would be worth paying for . sorry! Sorry! Not in my control
There’s a commercial playing in the middle of this video. Kinda ruined the whole thing.
Yes, TH-cam has added those even though I am not a monetizing partner and don't get any money off of them. They changed their policy and they just add them. The only thing I could do about it is become a monetizing partner and then maybe I can request that they put the ads at the beginning instead of in the middle… But I'm 77 years old and retired and I just moved and I don't think I'm gonna get to that what I have done in my own personal life is bought into TH-cam premium so that I don't get ads in the middle of my classical music! I figure it costs about the equivalent of buying one cd per month back in the olden days!
Didn’t work tbh but ill try it again
There are lots of different teachers teaching this inner awareness in different ways so… Certainly try this again but if you want to see more approaches you can go to www.focusing.org or simply start looking into mindfulness awareness which can be as simple as Heart math, deep breathing. etc.
Really not ok. Relaxation was too fast, the guidance was at moments confusing. I am sorry I have to say it but this is not the way. I was very disappointed.
Sorry this version did not work for you. You might try the videos of Ann Weiser Cornell, who teaches in a somewhat different way.
The free Ecourse which used to come as emails is now in a new format. It is in three parts as PDF files available in the free store at my website for Creative Edge Focusing (TM), www.cefocusing.com. You won't get reminders in your email inbox, but you can work at your own speed. I recommend that you put together the small group that will become your practice group and use each other to stay on track and keep moving through